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July 12th, 2013
03:36 PM ET

How do advertisers spell trouble? G-O-D

By Jeffrey Weiss, Special to CNN

(CNN) - Has any advertiser gotten into more trouble than Samuel Adams by not putting religion in an ad? Usually it goes the other way.

If you missed the recent brew-haha, in a TV commercial pegged to this year’s Fourth of July, the Boston-based beer company offered an homage to its namesake:

“Why name a beer after Samuel Adams? Because he signed the Declaration of Independence. He believed there was a better way to live. All men are created equal. They are endowed with certain unalienable rights: Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”

Which smoothly drops a key phrase from the Declaration: “…they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights ...”

On the one hand, it’s just a beer ad and it used up its whole 30 seconds. On the other hand, why leave out some of the best-known words in American history?

The company explained it’s all about the Beer Code. No kidding: There’s a national Beer Institute that has an Advertising and Marketing Code.

Right after, and I’m not making this up, “Beer advertising and marketing materials should not contain graphic nudity,” you will find: “Beer advertising and marketing materials should not employ religion or religious themes.”

There’s no mention of why it’s OK to use the Declaration itself, perhaps the most sacred text in the national civic religion, to sell suds.

Sam Adams himself wrote a lot about God. His dad even wanted him to go into the clergy. Instead, Adams went into business and became one of the firebrands of the American Revolution.** In 1772, he penned a report called The Rights of the Colonists that was presented at a Boston town meeting.

In it he argued for religious tolerance. Except for Catholics. Because, he explained, Catholic dogma and doctrine leads “directly to the worst anarchy and confusion, civil discord, war, and bloodshed.”

So ol’ Sam wasn’t perfect. None of our Founding Fathers were. But he probably wouldn’t have been happy about the beer named for him eliding the creator from its ad.

Modern reaction was about what you’d expect. Howls of outrage filled the company’s Facebook page. Columnists and commentators took the company to task.

This commercial is far from the first to tangle with faith. Some other countries are less sensitive about the topic than Americans, as this collection from Buzzfeed demonstrates.

The attempt often doesn’t go so well in America. But there are some exceptions.

Here are five notable American examples:

1. For several years, Doritos and Pepsi have held a Super Bowl ad contest. Folks submit an ad, the ads get posted online and voted on, and the top vote-getter gets broadcast during the Big Game.

A couple of years ago, a temporarily popular entry was titled “Feed Your Flock.” In it, a clergyman with a dwindling flock prays for inspiration. Cut to a long line of people waiting for a chip and a sip of soda. Does it look like Catholics receiving the sacraments? Ubetcha. Cut to the sign out front: "Free Doritos and Pepsi Max Sunday."

Yes, it was funny. And yes, it was offensive to some Catholics. And yes, the folks who made the ad apologized and pulled it from the contest. But you can still watch it here.

2. Another ad aimed at the Super Bowl with a religious theme ran as planned. This one was intended to kick up a controversy but turned out to be less than expected. It was paid for by the conservative advocacy group Focus on the Family and featured football star Tim Tebow. The pregame buzz was all about how overtly religious it was going to be and how it would be all about abortion. As you can see here, it turned out to be a lot more subtle than that.

3. A third Super Bowl ad with a faith theme aired last year. (Maybe the biggest game inspires ad agencies to reach for the biggest metaphors?) Dodge pulled out a Paul Harvey speech from decades before and ran pretty pictures in front of it. The audio begins: "And on the eighth day, God looked down on his planned paradise and said, I need a caretaker. So God made a farmer."

The nostalgic ad took two minutes – an expensive eternity for Super Bowl TV commercials. And it kicked up no significant faith-related complaints.

4. A different kind of ad that tangled with faith was a social media phenomenon two years ago.

The Facebook page for Oreos featured a photo of a six-layer “crème” cookie. Each layer was a different color of the rainbow. The text on the page said, simply: June 25/Pride. Objections from religious conservatives were predictable.

5. Finally, there’s the most successful religiously themed ad ever made for a secular product. Hebrew National makes deli fare: Salami, hot dogs, corned beef, bologna. And Hebrew National is kosher, meaning it follows traditional Jewish dietary laws.

Starting in the mid-1960s and returning occasionally in the years since, the company has run ads with a slogan that played on that unusual aspect of the business: “We answer to a higher authority.”

As with the recent Sam Adams commercial, the Creator is never actually mentioned. But as you can see here in one of the first of the “higher authority” ads, nobody who knows the product ever missed the point.

Jeffrey Weiss is an award-winning religion writer in Dallas. 

** An earlier version of this story mistakenly reported that Adams was a lawyer.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Business • Culture wars • Entertainment • Money & Faith • TV • United States

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  1. jarhead333

    I am not a Catholic, however, how can anyone deny the influence of the church on this country?

    July 26, 2013 at 11:41 pm |
  2. BK Moore

    Sam Adams was right about Catholicism, except he left out "creates a culture of over-breeding and pedophilia".

    July 25, 2013 at 11:26 pm |
  3. Existence

    Dear God. Please exist. Amen

    July 23, 2013 at 8:06 pm |
  4. Steve Finnell

    SECULARISTS AND THEIR VIEW OF HISTORY

    Did you ever notice that secularists accept historical writings as fact, unless they are about God the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit.

    Have you ever heard a secularist proclaim that the following men did not live and that they were not who historians said they were?
    Confucius 551-479 B.C.
    Plato 427-347 B.C.
    Alexander the Great 356-323 B.C.
    Julius Caesar 100-44 B.C.
    Socrates 469-399 B.C.
    Buddha 563-483 B.C.
    Ludwig van Beethoven 1770-1827
    Homer 700-800 B.C.
    Isaac Newton 1642-1727
    Galileo Galilei 1564-1642
    Leonardo da Vinci 1452-1519
    Marco Polo 1254-1324
    John Locke 1632-1704
    George Washington 1732-1799
    Abraham Lincoln 1809-1865

    Secularists do not question the historical fact, that these men lived and died. They do not deny the role these men played in history. They believe this, by faith, that the historical accounts are accurate.

    Secularists do deny the historical accuracy of the Bible and all other accounts that proclaim Jesus as the Son of God. They deny the historical accounts of God the Father resurrecting Jesus from the grave.

    THE RESULTS OF A SELECTIVE VIEW OF HISTORICAL FACTS.(2 Thessalonians 1:8-9 dealing out retribution to those who do not know God and to those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus. 9 These will pay the penalty of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His power.)

    SECULARISTS HAVE FAITH IN MEN!
    CHRISTIANS HAVE FAITH IN GOD!--–

    To read more, google search: Steve Finnell a christian view or Steve Finnell blog.

    July 23, 2013 at 6:24 pm |
    • Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam

      Good point!

      July 23, 2013 at 11:41 pm |
    • A Frayed Knot

      Steve Finnell,

      Trouble is, Jesus falls more into the category of legend like:

      King Arthur
      Robin Hood
      Helen of Troy
      Odysseus
      William Tell

      ...each loosely based on a perhaps real figure, but embellished with heroics and fantasy.

      July 23, 2013 at 11:55 pm |
    • Observer

      How many of them were supposed to have died and come back to life?

      July 24, 2013 at 12:10 am |
    • TasieSceptic

      there was a german expert who determined that the illiad wasn't written by homer, but rather it was written by another greek of the same name.
      so perhaps the historical homer didn't exist

      but on the same subject as yours, there is just as much evidence for the existence of the thunder god thor and brahma and all his avitars but we stupid atheists reject those myths as well as yours

      July 24, 2013 at 8:53 am |
      • jarhead333

        The funny thing is about Homer is that there are copies of the Bible that were discovered closer to the time they were written then the Iliad.

        July 26, 2013 at 11:44 pm |
        • RheotricalOracle

          Meaning what exactly?

          July 28, 2013 at 4:14 am |
        • jdizzle

          the earliest written piece of the new testament we have is from 95-125 years after the death of jesus (and it's only a small scrap of paper with a handful of words on it). a century is a LONG TIME from when someone lived to write down what they said especially in that day and age when reading and writing were extremely rare. and it's very easy to embellish or make changes when stories are passed by word of mouth. you can see that in every day social settings. now imagine that over 100 years and you can see people coming up with all sorts of changes to the original.

          that doesn't even begin to include that these texts were translated back and forth into several different languages where exact meaning and accurate translation was often lost.

          then there's the fact that the earliest complete book of the new testament was written more than 300 years after the death of jesus.

          July 29, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
    • UhOH

      Oh look another xtian stealing advertising in the name of their god.

      July 25, 2013 at 10:21 am |
    • Stephen

      I do not accept that "secularists" exist. It's a made up word.

      July 25, 2013 at 7:35 pm |
      • sam stone

        All words are made up, Steven. Including "god"

        July 26, 2013 at 4:49 pm |
    • Sense

      Well said.

      August 2, 2013 at 12:46 am |
  5. wigdet01

    Reading these comments is another shining example of how religion itself is the biggest obstacle to that fake dream of world peace. How any species that can argue and kill each other over whose imaginary friend is the best for over 2000 years and still call itself "intelligent" is still the best joke of all time.

    July 23, 2013 at 10:35 am |
    • reddragon

      Amen!

      July 23, 2013 at 1:56 pm |
    • PPreston

      This says nothing of the sort. But continue on in your delusion, as if your viewpoint on the world isn;'t a shallow and hallow one.

      July 29, 2013 at 1:12 am |
  6. Mark

    Samuel Adams... the real guy, had nothing to do with the beer sold by this company. While Adams did own a brewery, in addition to several other businesses, that brewery has been gone for a couple of centuries. While he signed the Declaration of Independence, he didn't write it.

    This beer company was founded in the 1980s by people who have no relation to the Adams' family. Its a good beer and completely American owned... which we can't say of Coors, Budweiser or Miller anymore. Holy rollers can boycott it all they like... most churchy types don't drink much, if at all. I'll buy a couple of extra cases to make up for the loss!

    July 23, 2013 at 1:25 am |
  7. lol??

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    tutifruiti13 speaketh of what he knoweth not,
    "..............'creator' is not the same thing as 'christian god',................."
    Col 1:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

    Col 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

    July 22, 2013 at 11:51 pm |
  8. lol??

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    The Gog Magog war will be WWIII. Ever heard of the Republic of Georgia?? Armageddon has to happen at the end of the 1,000 year rule. People will still hate Jesus even after righteous rule.

    July 22, 2013 at 11:50 pm |
    • Mark

      Right... waiting on that whatever war.... still waiting.

      July 23, 2013 at 1:17 am |
  9. Felix Sinclair

    Can anybody demonstrate that "the creator" mention in the Declaration is in fact the God of the Bible? Didn't think so.

    July 22, 2013 at 12:40 am |
    • Harrison

      I swear, I thought it was Ra.

      July 28, 2013 at 4:39 pm |
    • JesusSuperHero

      "endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights"

      Thanks Mom!

      If not, mom, I guess, you could assume you were created by aliens, or a supernatural omnipotent alien "God/Zeus".
      Probably an alien society is more likely.

      But we have proof for Mom.

      July 29, 2013 at 11:49 am |
  10. TrustKnow1

    Believing in the premise behind this country is no worse than believing the premise behind Christianity. Both propagate lies and relieve you of your money and freedoms!

    The truth is out there... Fight the future!

    July 21, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
  11. Pray/Prey

    I AM THE ONLY SUPER BEING OVERLORD, AND YOU WILL OBEY!!!!
    NOW!!!
    BOW!!!!
    YIELD!!!!!
    KNEEL!!!!
    AND GIVE ME YOUR MONEY, ERRR UMMM, I MEAN DONATIONS!!!

    July 19, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
    • Wakan Tanka

      Yeah I mean that's cool and all if you see God as some big angry old guy in the sky who just wants to get your behind in a sling. I'm guessing you also see the idea of God as some non existent thing so it doesn't matter. I'd rather think of God as existing but in a way as to define God as "what might go right". Everybody has their own ideas.

      July 20, 2013 at 7:32 pm |
      • wigdet01

        "Everybody has their own ideas."
        which is the very reason we will continue to kill each other far into the future.

        July 23, 2013 at 10:38 am |
        • Oh come now

          I'm sure we'll find lots of reasons

          July 24, 2013 at 6:47 am |
      • Stephen

        Yours are charming, but stupid.

        Kind of like Homer Simpson.

        July 25, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
    • Warhammer

      We will go forward not backward, upward not downward, and forever twirling-twirling into the future!

      July 22, 2013 at 6:42 pm |
  12. Max

    lately I`ve seen the american lifestyle is pro everything that is against GOD,can`t say you`re a christian in school,in a speech or protest..sadly they`re all acting like a bunch of babies that need their diapers changed and they didnt`t it. Every little thing bad tht happens everyone blames GOD and blah blah blah yet when something good happens why can`t they also blame him for that?

    July 16, 2013 at 6:33 pm |
    • Observer

      Max,

      "yet when something good happens why can`t they also blame him for that?"

      Happens all the time. Dozens of people die and believers praise God that others survived.

      July 16, 2013 at 6:36 pm |
      • Rough reality

        Yeah well if something that big had their foot on your throat it's not a good time to spit in their face.

        July 19, 2013 at 8:42 pm |
    • Saraswati

      "can`t say you`re a christian in school,in a speech or protest"

      Any student who wants to can spend all day at school telling their friends they are Christian. If you think this is not the case you are grossly unaware of the laws and have likely been fed some propaganda from FOX news.

      July 24, 2013 at 6:53 am |
  13. Truly insane

    Inalianable vs Unalianable. If we all agree to have rights they are contingent upon if there is a letter "U" or if there is a letter "I" infront of a word? This is in addition to the meaningless discussion on dieities. Really humanity that's just a mess.

    July 15, 2013 at 10:17 pm |
  14. Reality

    So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

    And just think there might be a few molecules of degraded JC in your next bottle of Sam Adams Summer Ale !!!

    July 15, 2013 at 4:13 pm |
    • Truly insane

      That's another one of those go nowhere things. Atheists will say this is proof that Jesus the historical figure never was. Christians will say it's proof that he floated away intact. Pantheists will say that every molecule you drink IS God and none if it is relevant to people going without air conditioning and other important things.

      July 15, 2013 at 10:20 pm |
    • Reality

      From an atheist:

      From Professors Crossan and Watts' book, Who is Jesus.

      "That Jesus was crucified under Pontius Pilate, as the Creed states, is as certain as anything historical can ever be.

      “ The Jewish historian, Josephus and the pagan historian Tacitus both agree that Jesus was executed by order of the Roman governor of Judea. And is very hard to imagine that Jesus' followers would have invented such a story unless it indeed happened.

      “While the brute fact that of Jesus' death by crucifixion is historically certain, however, those detailed narratives in our present gospels are much more problematic. "

      “My best historical reconstruction would be something like this. Jesus was arrested during the Passover festival, most likely in response to his action in the Temple. Those who were closest to him ran away for their own safety.

      I do not presume that there were any high-level confrontations between Caiaphas and Pilate and Herod Antipas either about Jesus or with Jesus. No doubt they would have agreed before the festival that fast action was to be taken against any disturbance and that a few examples by crucifixion might be especially useful at the outset. And I doubt very much if Jewish police or Roman soldiers needed to go too far up the chain of command in handling a Galilean peasant like Jesus. It is hard for us to imagine the casual brutality with which Jesus was probably taken and executed. All those "last week" details in our gospels, as distinct from the brute facts just mentioned, are prophecy turned into history, rather than history remembered."

      See also Professor Crossan's reviews of the existence of Jesus in his other books especially, The Historical Jesus and also Excavating Jesus (with Professor Jonathan Reed doing the archeology discussion) .

      Other NT exegetes to include members of the Jesus Seminar have published similar books with appropriate supporting references.

      Part of Crossan's The Historical Jesus has been published online at books.google.com/books.

      There is also a search engine for this book on the right hand side of the opening page. e.g. Search Josephus

      See also Wikipedia's review on the historical Jesus to include the Tacitus' reference to the crucifixion of Jesus.

      From ask.com,

      "One of the greatest historians of ancient Rome, Cornelius Tacitus is a primary source for much of what is known about life the first and second centuries after the life of Jesus. His most famous works, Histories and Annals, exist in fragmentary form, though many of his earlier writings were lost to time. Tacitus is known for being generally reliable (if somewhat biased toward what he saw as Roman immorality) and for having a uniquely direct (if not blunt) writing style.

      Then there are these scriptural references:

      Crucifixion of Jesus:(1) 1 Cor 15:3b; (2a) Gos. Pet. 4:10-5:16,18-20; 6:22; (2b) Mark 15:22-38 = Matt 27:33-51a = Luke 23:32-46; (2c) John 19:17b-25a,28-36; (3) Barn. 7:3-5; (4a) 1 Clem. 16:3-4 (=Isaiah 53:1-12); (4b) 1 Clem. 16.15-16 (=Psalm 22:6-8); (5a) Ign. Mag. 11; (5b) Ign. Trall. 9:1b; (5c) Ign. Smyrn. 1.2.- (read them all at wiki.faithfutures. Crucifixion org/index.php/005_Crucifixion_Of_Jesus )

      Added suggested readings:

      o 1. Historical Jesus Theories, earlychristianwritings.com/theories.htm – the names of many of the contemporary historical Jesus scholars and the ti-tles of their over 100 books on the subject.

      2. Early Christian Writings, earlychristianwritings.com/
      – a list of early Christian doc-uments to include the year of publication–

      30-60 CE Passion Narrative
      40-80 Lost Sayings Gospel Q
      50-60 1 Thessalonians
      50-60 Philippians
      50-60 Galatians
      50-60 1 Corinthians
      50-60 2 Corinthians
      50-60 Romans
      50-60 Philemon
      50-80 Colossians
      50-90 Signs Gospel
      50-95 Book of Hebrews
      50-120 Didache
      50-140 Gospel of Thomas
      50-140 Oxyrhynchus 1224 Gospel
      50-200 Sophia of Jesus Christ
      65-80 Gospel of Mark
      70-100 Epistle of James
      70-120 Egerton Gospel
      70-160 Gospel of Peter
      70-160 Secret Mark
      70-200 Fayyum Fragment
      70-200 Testaments of the Twelve Patriarchs
      73-200 Mara Bar Serapion
      80-100 2 Thessalonians
      80-100 Ephesians
      80-100 Gospel of Matthew
      80-110 1 Peter
      80-120 Epistle of Barnabas
      80-130 Gospel of Luke
      80-130 Acts of the Apostles
      80-140 1 Clement
      80-150 Gospel of the Egyptians
      80-150 Gospel of the Hebrews
      80-250 Christian Sibyllines
      90-95 Apocalypse of John
      90-120 Gospel of John
      90-120 1 John
      90-120 2 John
      90-120 3 John
      90-120 Epistle of Jude
      93 Flavius Josephus
      100-150 1 Timothy
      100-150 2 Timothy
      100-150 T-itus
      100-150 Apocalypse of Peter
      100-150 Secret Book of James
      100-150 Preaching of Peter
      100-160 Gospel of the Ebionites
      100-160 Gospel of the Nazoreans
      100-160 Shepherd of Hermas
      100-160 2 Peter

      3. Historical Jesus Studies, faithfutures.org/HJstudies.html,
      – "an extensive and constantly expanding literature on historical research into the person and cultural context of Jesus of Nazareth"
      4. Jesus Database, faithfutures.org/JDB/intro.html–"The JESUS DATABASE is an online annotated inventory of the traditions concerning the life and teachings of Jesus that have survived from the first three centuries of the Common Era. It includes both canonical and extra-canonical materials, and is not limited to the traditions found within the Christian New Testament."
      5. Josephus on Jesus mtio.com/articles/bissar24.htm
      6. The Jesus Seminar, mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/seminar.html#Criteria
      7. Writing the New Testament- mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/testament.html
      8. Health and Healing in the Land of Israel By Joe Zias
      joezias.com/HealthHealingLandIsrael.htm
      9. Economics in First Century Palestine, K.C. Hanson and D. E. Oakman, Palestine in the Time of Jesus, Fortress Press, 1998

      17. Diseases in the Bible:
      etd.unisa.ac.za/ETD-db/theses/available/etd-08022006-125807/unrestricted/02dissertation.pdf
      18. Religion on Line (6000 articles on the history of religion, churches, theologies,
      theologians, ethics, etc.
      religion-online.org/
      19. The Jesus Seminarians and their search for NT authenticity:
      mystae.com/restricted/reflections/messiah/seminar.html#Criteria
      20. The New Testament Gateway – Internet NT ntgateway.com/
      21. Writing the New Testament- existing copies, oral tradition etc.
      ntgateway.com/
      22. The Search for the Historic Jesus by the Jesus Seminarians:
      members.aol.com/DrSwiney/seminar.html
      23. Jesus Decoded by Msgr. Francis J. Maniscalco (Da Vinci Code review)jesusdecoded.com/introduction.php
      24. JD Crossan's scriptural references for his book the Historical Jesus separated into time periods: faithfutures.org/Jesus/Crossan1.rtf
      25. JD Crossan's conclusions about the authencity of most of the NT based on the above plus the conclusions of other NT exegetes in the last 200 years:
      faithfutures.org/Jesus/Crossan2.rtf
      26. Common Sayings from Thomas's Gospel and the Q Gospel: faithfutures.org/Jesus/Crossan3.rtf
      27. Early Jewish Writings- Josephus and his books by t-itle with the complete translated work in English :earlyjewishwritings.com/josephus.html
      28. Luke and Josephus- was there a connection?
      infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/lukeandjosephus.html
      29. NT and beyond time line:
      pbs.org/empires/peterandpaul/history/timeline/
      30. St. Paul's Time line with discussion of important events:
      harvardhouse.com/prophetictech/new/pauls_life.htm
      31. See http://www.amazon.com for a list of JD Crossan's books and those of the other Jesus Seminarians: Reviews of said books are included and selected pages can now be viewed on Amazon. Some books can be found on-line at Google Books.
      32. Father Edward Schillebeeckx's words of wisdom as found in his books.
      33. The books of the following : Professors Marcus Borg, Paula Fredriksen, Elaine Pagels, Karen Armstrong and Bishop NT Wright.
      34. Father Raymond Brown's An Introduction to the New Testament, Doubleday, NY, 1977, 878 pages, with Nihil obstat and Imprimatur.
      35. Luke Timothy Johnson's book The Real Jesus

      July 16, 2013 at 12:24 am |
      • mzh

        I would like to humbly request to go to quran to know more about Jesus and his maternal family.... as you sounds like someone who is interested to grow knowledge...

        I am very much interested to know about the way its written in Bible (both OT and NT) and i do and i find no problem with it, just to increase my knowledge... does not mean i have to accept it as it is not same as it is in the quran...

        July 20, 2013 at 6:39 am |
    • Gnomeless

      Wow Reality. If I didn't want to spend time reading all that when I thought there was a god why would I read it now?

      July 17, 2013 at 7:35 am |
      • Saraswati

        It surprises me how many people don't realize that very few people will read a comment longer than a few lines long, and virtually no one will read one this long. Re the people who post these exceptions who actually do read random huge comments or are they just lacking perspective? It would be interesting to know.

        July 17, 2013 at 7:40 am |
        • Gnomeless

          It's a lot of effort for something that just doesn't exist.

          July 17, 2013 at 7:51 am |
        • Ken Margo

          It's self serving that's all. It makes them feel better. Like a chain letter. Now they tell god what they did to fool people into believing his existence.

          July 18, 2013 at 5:46 pm |
        • mzh

          Dear Saraswati:

          You just reminded me something that I would like to share with you and others something about the Quran... the entire Quran where there are 114 chapters and over 6000 verses can be summarized in 1 chapter which has only few verses, here it is:

          112:1 – Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,
          112:2 – Allah, the Eternal Refuge.
          112:3 – He neither begets nor is born,
          112:4 – Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

          Now you might ask how does Allah looks like as most of the human wants to have something that they can see or feel or touch in order know the Almighty God...

          July 20, 2013 at 6:46 am |
        • mzh

          Dear Saraswati:

          You just reminded me something that I would like to share with you and others something about the Quran... the entire Quran where there are 114 chapters and over 6000 verses can be summarized in 1 chapter which has only few verses, here it is:

          112:1 – Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,
          112:2 – Allah, the Eternal Refuge.
          112:3 – He neither begets nor is born,
          112:4 – Nor is there to Him any equivalent."

          Now you might ask how does Allah looks like as most of the human wants to have something that they can see or feel or touch in order know the Almighty God...

          Human are created not to see Allah in this life but hereafter in heaven... the only reference that Moses was the only prophet who used to have dialogue directly with Allah and rest of the prophets via angel Gabriel... one day Moses wanted to see the face of Allah and Allah said to him that you are not made to see me, then he insisted and then he was told that see the highest mountain, if it stays remain then u will see me, the next moment Moses found himself unconscious and the mountain become dust.... now if you want me to show you the proof or evidence like most of the ppl do in order to believe in it, i can't but i believe every single word in Quran as I believe in my existence... why? because of the contents of the quran... if you read it then u will know that it can't be a writing of an illiterate person...

          i thought to make it short as u said ppl like to read shot posting... 🙂 but end up making it little longer... apologies for that...

          peace be upon u...

          July 20, 2013 at 6:53 am |
        • Mark

          He just cut and pasted some boilerplate crap he's had for years. Probably has a bot that looks for any mention of Jesus or God.

          July 23, 2013 at 1:19 am |
    • Reality

      Summarizing the cited references for the reading-challenged:

      The Apostles' Creed 2013: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
      and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen

      July 17, 2013 at 12:18 pm |
      • DoubtingThomas

        @Reality So well put my friend.

        July 19, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
      • Saraswati

        Thank you, that was quite readable although I'm still not sure of the point you are making?

        For most people it is not, btw, a matter of being reading challenged but time challenged. This is an internet forum with comments by strangers whose background and credentials we don't know. If you want us to read something give us a short concise intro and a link to a source we can trust. No one wants to read long paragraphs fro m anonymous people on topics that aren't clear until several of life's unrecoverable minutes have been lost.

        July 24, 2013 at 7:20 am |
      • rick

        Wow then please explain to me WHY we talk about him at all.Why the calender is based on him.The largest holiday in the world every year is based on him.Why theres a church in every country about him.Why we still talk about him all day long every day for the last 2000 years and millions have died over him in one shape or form throughout the ages.Man for Jesus being an average carpenter and killed like any common thief achieved all this seems like a bigger miracle then if he were God.
        Its all there for anyone with common sense to see Jesus IS WAS ALWAYS will be very important in our world till we destroy it,and it won't be his fault.,

        July 28, 2013 at 3:28 pm |
  15. nothern Light

    Gods do not belong in advertising.....or anywhere else......they exist only in some peoples imaginations.

    July 15, 2013 at 4:03 pm |
    • Truly insane

      Everything outside of nature is a human invention. Some of it like money, government, countries, politics in general, culture, groups, group think and so on exists only in the imagination but people hang on to all of it so tightly and I don't know why.

      July 15, 2013 at 10:31 pm |
      • nothern Light

        Because they are so afraid of .....reality.

        July 15, 2013 at 11:03 pm |
  16. I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

    Sam Adams was a rabble rouser.

    Were he alive today, he'd be an imprisoned former blogger.

    July 15, 2013 at 1:46 pm |
  17. faith

    Akira
    On the belt buckleof millions of Nazi soldiers
    This long-dead horse apparently needs flogging again
    Christian Motto
    Wasp
    Rory
    Open the pod bay door
    Agnostickids
    Rodents for Romney
    Polonius
    FYI
    Oberver
    skytag
    Cpt. Obvious
    Judica
    Open the pod bay door
    Rodents for Romney
    FYI
    Polonius
    Satan
    skytag
    Cpt. Obvious
    Judica
    Rodents for Romney
    Righteo

    Josephus has much to say about john the baptist

    July 15, 2013 at 12:27 pm |
  18. Honey Badger Don't Care

    Seems like the poor xtian whiners with a persecution complex found something else to complain about.

    July 15, 2013 at 11:24 am |
  19. lol??

    STANDARD CHRISTIAN DOCTRUNE

    lol??
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    Jesus is the seed of Abraham.

    "Gen 12:3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."

    July 15, 2013 at 9:19 am |
    • faith

      why was abe so special?

      July 15, 2013 at 9:46 am |
    • froth

      faith
      keep going.

      Josephus mentioned Hercules in his writings
      in what context?

      Open the pod bay door
      Rodents for Romney
      Polonius
      FYI
      Oberver
      skytag
      Cpt. Obvious
      Judica
      Open the pod bay door
      Rodents for Romney
      FYI
      Polonius
      skytag
      Cpt. Obvious
      Judica
      Rodents for Romney
      All the messiahs from his time ran around doing miracles. What was so special about him again ?

      faith
      name them, if you would.

      yes, name them if you know

      July 15, 2013 at 10:12 am |
      • saroban

        Are you crazy?

        July 15, 2013 at 6:37 pm |
  20. dsfdsf

    God is for lazy stupid people. It is easier to "pray" (do nothing) and feel like you are doing something, than to actually do something.

    July 15, 2013 at 6:40 am |
    • Honey Badger Don't Care

      True dat!

      July 15, 2013 at 10:10 am |
    • mzh

      You are referring to the ppl and not The God Almighty...

      July 20, 2013 at 6:55 am |
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