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July 15th, 2013
02:50 PM ET

Behold, the six types of atheists

By Dan Merica, CNN

(CNN) - How many ways are there to disbelieve in God?

At least six, according to a new study.

Two researchers at University of Tennessee at Chattanooga found that atheists and agnostics run the range from vocally anti-religious activists to nonbelievers who still observe some religious traditions.

“The main observation is that nonbelief is an ontologically diverse community,” write doctoral student Christopher Silver and undergraduate student Thomas Coleman.

“These categories are a first stab at this," Silver told the website Raw Story. "In 30 years, we may be looking at a typology of 32 types.”

Silver and Coleman derived their six types of nonbelievers from 59 interviews. We're pretty sure we've spotted all six in our comments section.

1) Intellectual atheist/agnostic

This type of nonbeliever seeks information and intellectual stimulation about atheism.

They like debating and arguing, particularly on popular Internet sites.

(Ahem.)

They're also well-versed in books and articles about religion and atheism, and prone to citing those works frequently.

2) Activist

These kinds of atheists and agnostics are not content with just disbelieving in God; they want to tell others why they reject religion and why society would be better off if we all did likewise.

They tend to be vocal about political causes like gay rights, feminism, the environment and the care of animals.

3) Seeker-agnostic

This group is made up of people who are unsure about the existence of a God but keep an open mind and recognize the limits of human knowledge and experience.

Silver and Coleman describe this group as people who regularly question their own beliefs and “do not hold a firm ideological position.”

That doesn't mean this group is confused, the researchers say. They just embrace uncertainty.

4) Anti-theist

This group regularly speaks out against religion and religious beliefs, usually by positioning themselves as “diametrically opposed to religious ideology,” Silver and Coleman wrote.

“Anti-theists view religion as ignorance and see any individual or institution associated with it as backward and socially detrimental,” the researchers wrote. “The Anti-Theist has a clear and – in their view, superior – understanding of the limitations and danger of religions.”

Anti-theists are outspoken, devoted and – at times – confrontational about their disbelief. They believe that "obvious fallacies in religion and belief should be aggressively addressed in some form or another.”

5) Non-theist

The smallest group among the six are the non-theists, people who do not involve themselves with either religion or anti-religion.

In many cases, this comes across as apathy or disinterest.

“A Non-Theist simply does not concern him or herself with religion,” Silver and Coleman wrote. “Religion plays no role or issue in one’s consciousness or worldview; nor does a Non- Theist have concern for the atheist or agnostic movement.”

They continue: “They simply do not believe, and in the same right, their absence of faith means the absence of anything religion in any form from their mental space.”

6) Ritual atheist

They don't believe in God, they don’t associate with religion, and they tend to believe there is no afterlife, but the sixth type of nonbeliever still finds useful the teachings of some religious traditions.

“They see these as more or less philosophical teachings of how to live life and achieve happiness than a path to transcendental liberation,” Silver and Coleman wrote. “For example, these individuals may participate in specific rituals, ceremonies, musical opportunities, meditation, yoga classes, or holiday traditions.”

For many of these nonbelievers, their adherence to ritual may stem from family traditions. For others, its a personal connection to, or respect for, the "profound symbolism" inherent within religious rituals, beliefs and ceremonies, according the researchers.

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The authors of this study have graciously agreed to field questions from our commenters. If you're interested, please post your question below or tweet it to us at @CNNBelief. 

We'll take the best questions to the authors and the Q&A will be posted in a follow-up article. 

Please try to keep your questions related to the study itself.

Thanks,
Daniel Burke

- CNN Belief Blog

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soundoff (9,518 Responses)
  1. Bryan

    The very story of "Jesus" is borrowed from a pagan sun god named "Mythra" or "Mithra". This sun god existed before Jesus and just happen to be born on December 25th. Believers celebrated Mythra's birthday between December 23rd and 25th (I may be wrong on the exact dates but it was late December). I believe it was the Roman emperor Constantine who sort of mandated Christianity. All of a sudden "Jesus" is born on the 25th. Christianity borrowed from several older religions and took pagan holidays and rituals and turned them into Christian holidays or rituals. That's where the Easter bunny came from. The pagan celebration of spring was partially symbolized by the rabbit. In a nut shell, Christians wanted to bring the pagans on board with Christianity so they adopted some of the pagan symbols and rituals. The 10 Commandments are a shortened and altered version of the Egyptians' "42 Confessions". The Egyptians also had a religious resurrection story thousands of years before Christianity You can look all this up. I may not be exact but that's basically what happened simplified. Why am I saying all this? Because this illustrates that religion is a man-made concept that evolves according to man's needs or desire to control. Religion justifies wars and hate and violence because when you feel like "your God wants you to do these things" then you're never wrong; no matter how attrocious the act.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:20 pm |
    • W.G.

      once again here is someone commenting on what they know nothing about . maybe the catholic church borrowed from mythra or mothra but Christianity was a jewish sect before it was a seperate religion all the predictions of the comming mesiah
      even down to his name or what he woud be called were predicted hundreds of years before the mythra god myth .

      July 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm |
      • Colin

        The idea that Jesus was born of a virgin and that his birth somehow “fulfilled the prophesies” of the Old Testament is an enduring myth to this day. It is a paper thin charade.

        Matthew and Luke were educated, practicing Jews writing to convince other Jews (and pagans) to join their growing sect. They had a copy of the Septuagint/Old Testament in their hands when they wrote the story of Jesus’ birth! Of course their stories of his birth “fulfilled the prophesies.” How could they claim Jesus was the Messiah if they didn’t? It is like the writer of a screenplay fulfilling a prediction that James Bond will save the World, kill the bad guy and get the girl as he writes the script for the upcoming Bond film.

        Matthew and Luke just failed to compare notes and came up with hopelessly inconsistent and irreconcilable versions of Jesus’ birth.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:34 pm |
        • Ted

          Kaching. Colin nails it.

          July 17, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
    • Skeptimist

      There are more ancient manuscripts and viewpoints concerning Jesus than are found in the Bible and its many editions. Many students make a distinction between the stories about Jesus (which have purposes of their own) and the more pertinent essence of the message he left. One fascinating conjecture addresses the 18 years that are missing from the popular story of Jesus' life. It postulates that during that time Jesus studied in the far East. This may fit with some records found in a Tibetan Buddhist monastery. That may correlate with the introspective and sometimes counter-intuitive nature of his teachings which shocked the legalistic, conformity-minded society to whom he preached. Then there are the Gnostic Gospels (banned from the Bible) which delve deeper into the more mystical elements of personal spiritual search. Also, there are accounts (I think some are in the Koran) of Jesus' early childhood that report that he was a somewhat ornery little boy who demonstrated paranormal capabilities. Who knows? The stories and speculations are amusing but probably of little importance because they take nothing away from Jesus' message which was Peace and Justice for all.
      I'm for that.

      July 17, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
  2. W.G.

    The Bible says , A fool believes in his heart there is no GOD . There may be 6 kinds of atheists
    but there´s only one kind of hell , hot !

    July 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
    • Enter "The Atheist Hunter"

      ...............smokin!

      July 17, 2013 at 3:20 pm |
    • ME II

      @W.G.,
      "... anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell." (Matt 5:22)

      July 17, 2013 at 3:22 pm |
      • W.G.

        This quote comes from the Bible .

        July 17, 2013 at 3:29 pm |
      • W.G.

        This quote comes from the Bible . Look it up

        July 17, 2013 at 3:30 pm |
        • ME II

          Obviously. Hence the citation Matt 5:22.
          What's your point?

          July 17, 2013 at 3:33 pm |
        • Natalie

          I've said this before on facebook pertaining to fictoinal hell: There's so many scienctists in hell it's probably air conditioned by now.

          July 17, 2013 at 3:44 pm |
        • ME II

          @Natalie,
          lol

          July 17, 2013 at 3:46 pm |
    • Colin

      I love it when a Christian scorns me with the admonition that I will "go to hell" .

      Out of all the silly superst.itious beliefs of the Christians, I think the myth of hell is my favorite. Think it through. I don't have to kill, I don't have to steal, hell, I don't even have to litter. All I have to do is have a reasonable, honest and rational disbelief in the Christian god and he will inflict a grotesque penalty upon me an infinite times worse than the death penalty. And he loves me.

      Let's subject this "cherished Christian doctrine" to the probing light of say.......fifth grade mathematics.

      Approximately one hundred and ten thousand million (110,000,000,000) people have lived on Earth. Given all those who have, over the centuries, rejected the Christian god, or who have otherwise committed mortal sins, there must be literally thousands of millions of people burning for all eternity in the cosmic oven of hell set up by their all-loving god. Some must have been burning for thousands of years by now.

      About 100,000 people die every day. There must be a constant stream of thousands of forlorn souls every day into the one way pit of hell their “all-merciful” god set up and maintains.

      But, far, far worse than sheer overwhelming numbers is the extent of the punishment. There is no way out, no parole, no time off for good behavior. You don’t just burn, you burn for all eternity. Billions of people and thousands of daily new arrivals burning for all eternity!

      No criminal justice system in the history of the Human race, even those established by the most despotic of tyrants, comes close to matching the unfathomable barbarity of their “infinitely benevolent” god.

      Hitler murdered six million Jews in his concentration camps, but compared to the Judeo-Christian god, Hitler was a bleeding-hearted wimp. A goose-stepping girlie-man. Their “all-caring” god not only burns billions more than Hitler, Pol Pot and all other dictators and tyrants added up, he keeps doing so to them for all eternity! I would not wish a bad sunburn on a person simply because they have a different religion to me, let alone fry them for all eternity.

      It is also odd that their all-loving god is also all-knowing and knows which souls will go to hell before they do. He even knows it before they are born, and yet he still creates them. He is worse than a psychopathic teenager than breeds litter after litter of kittens so he can slowly roast them in ovens.

      That is the problem with using the same deity to be both the carrot and the stick. It gets really silly really quickly.

      How they believe this utter garbage in the 21st century completely eludes me.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:22 pm |
      • hikohadon

        Now, you stop with that logic – they are immune.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm |
      • Glenn Parker

        Well, it is your choice. However, despite your best efforts to the contrary, one day you will be a believer.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:27 pm |
        • Colin

          How did Dqwkins put it? "Will convert for evidence"

          July 17, 2013 at 3:31 pm |
        • UncleBenny

          No I won't. I'll be nonexistent. Like I was before I was conceived.

          July 17, 2013 at 3:56 pm |
      • lol??

        E's and A&A's don't have to get lewd about it.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:29 pm |
      • W.G.

        Remember the words you write here and the words you spew out . Once you´re dead you can´t take them back .

        July 17, 2013 at 3:33 pm |
        • ME II

          And why is that? Why can't we get "saved" after death?

          July 17, 2013 at 3:39 pm |
        • UncleBenny

          Once I'm dead I won't care, I'll be dead.

          July 17, 2013 at 3:54 pm |
        • Peter

          Then I will choose to be a Mormon because they believe you can be saved after death.

          July 18, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
    • sam

      Well, then I sure am glad there's no such thing as hell. Thanks for playing, though!

      July 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
    • Truth Prevails :-)

      How very christian of you! The buybull says a lot of stuff...it tells you to best your children and own slaves...do you obey those rules also or is it only the ones you decide to pick and choose that you obey?

      July 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
    • lol??

      Lighten up. Hell ain't forever. It gets dunked, too.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:31 pm |
    • Tom Wilson

      Where does all this fuel come from to keep the fires of hell burning? How many BTU per hour is being consumed by Hell? These are important questions that need to be answered!

      July 17, 2013 at 3:33 pm |
      • lol??

        It's on a "need to know" basis.You'd just try and incorporate it, anyway.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:37 pm |
    • UncleBenny

      "there´s only one kind of hell" – imaginary

      July 17, 2013 at 3:51 pm |
      • lol??

        Incorporating everything in sight ain't imaginary.

        July 17, 2013 at 4:26 pm |
  3. Colin

    Christianity is the belief that an infinitely-old, all-knowing being, powerful enough to create the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies about 13,720,000,000 years ago, impregnated an Iron Age Jewish virgin with himself, so he could give birth to himself, then sacrifice himself to himself to forgive the “original sin” of a couple we now all know never existed.

    Atheism is the belief that the above belief is completely fvcking ludicrous.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
    • W.G.

      Actually you´re wrong , which shows you comment without knowing what you´re saying .
      There´s the Fathern , the Son and the HolySpirit . 3 Beings in the God Head that are in complete
      union . It´s called the mystery of the Trinity .

      July 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
      • brianz72

        WG – if you find the holy trinity to be a "mystery", then you are far too easily confused and conned.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm |
      • Madtown

        It´s called the mystery of the Trinity
        -----
        It's not really that mysterious, it's just a creation of the human mind. You don't need it to believe in God.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:32 pm |
      • Tom, Tom, the Other One

        I realize you may not know this, but I just wanted to ask. Can all 3 fit on the Head of a pin?

        July 17, 2013 at 3:34 pm |
      • illusive

        Funny story about the trinity, officially according to the church they don't say it exists. Why?
        1. The bible NEVER mentions the trinity
        2. The three passages "referring to the trinity", don't actually do so (1 John 5:7-8, John 1:1, John 10:30)
        3. It was decided at the Council of Nicea that it the "Trinity" did not exist

        July 17, 2013 at 3:36 pm |
        • John 78

          You mean the Sunday school teachers that tried to say When genesis says there was God and that of course meant the trinity she was lying to all of us grade schoolers, the horror. Maybe she will go to hell for lying.

          July 22, 2013 at 8:34 pm |
    • Colin

      Well W.G., that makes a lot more sense. Actually, the Christian superst.ition of the Trinity is quite interesting. It developed too late in Christian theology to make it into the Bibl, with the result that, in the entire bible, from cover to cover, there is not one mention of the Holy Trinity. It shows how silly christianity is. Their own god does not even get a mention in their holy book.

      Feel free to prove me wrong with Chapter and verse.

      PS: I'm sure you know enough not to cite the forged Comma Johenenium.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:29 pm |
  4. Kingslea

    Atheism is just another religion.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Exactly like "off" is a tv channel.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:20 pm |
    • sam

      Bald is my favorite hair color!!

      July 17, 2013 at 3:24 pm |
      • Colin 2.0

        An atheist is a bald man using a comb then.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
    • ME II

      If by religion you mean no doctrine, no dogma, no ritual, no inherent belief system, then perhaps.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      Trolls are funny when they suck at it...

      July 17, 2013 at 3:30 pm |
      • ou812

        I know, I laugh every time you post.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
    • illusive

      Technically if you broaden up the definition enough sure...But then you would be including things like
      1.Not believing in fairies is a religion
      2.Not believing in Santa is a religion

      List goes on...

      July 17, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
      • ME II

        ... and the not-worshiping of no fairies is mandatory.

        July 17, 2013 at 5:17 pm |
  5. TheFatherofLies

    Seeker agnostic can be shortened to agnostic.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:18 pm |
  6. W.G.

    A fool says in his heart there is no GOD . There may be 6 kinds of aethists but there´s only one kind
    of hell , hot !

    July 17, 2013 at 3:17 pm |
    • Rodents for Romney

      The Hebrews did not believe in immortality. Neither did Jesus. Neither did St. Paul.
      They also did not believe in hell.
      Sheol was not hell.
      Psalm 39 :
      "Turn your gaze away from me, that I may smile again,
      before I depart, and am no more"

      Psalm 115 :
      The dead do not praise the Lord,
      nor do any that go down into silence".

      Psalm 6 :
      "For in death there is no remembrance of you, in Sheol, who can give you praise ?"

      July 17, 2013 at 3:22 pm |
    • Madtown

      Hot?! Thankfully there's no such place.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      Of course imaginary things can imagined to be hot.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
      • Melissa Greene

        Fear motivation only works for so long. Teaching children about hell is child abuse. You have no idea what a weight you are putting on their innocent shoulders when you teach them silliness like Adam and Eve and Noah's Ark. They'll be confused in science class and educated people will feel sorry for them.

        July 17, 2013 at 4:43 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      “I see two problems with heaven and hell. First, heaven supposedly will be full of Christians… so that'll suck. Second, hell will definitely be filled to the brim with "good" Christians… which will without a doubt also suck. So kind of a lose-lose scenario either way.” – LET

      July 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm |
  7. Enter "The Atheist Hunter"

    If Dawkins really believed what atheists supposedly believe, he should just put his feet up with a bottle of scotch and just enjoy himself as he waits for his death and his consumption by worms so he can fertilize the grass. Getting his blood pressure up over people believing in God all seems rather futile, if atheism is true. But perhaps it isn’t? Ah, there’s the rub.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:16 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      The only "rub" is the one you're giving yourself. Do you ever wish that people considered your ideas valuable?

      July 17, 2013 at 3:17 pm |
      • Melissa Greene

        Oh that's good! Ha ha. My problem with religious people is that they are always trying to convert me, they witness to you but you don't have the right to witness back to them.

        July 17, 2013 at 4:46 pm |
    • ....

      It is quite obvious that you are here to troll. You've been doing this for a long time. Your posts never change. There's nothing else to say.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
    • Rodents for Romney

      Just goes to show, you know no atheists, and understand nothing about them, doesn't it.
      You do know Mother Teresa was an atheist, don't you ?
      Dietrich Bonhoeffer was also.
      Both, atheists, celebrated by Christians.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
      • Enter "The Atheist Hunter"

        not by me.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:22 pm |
        • jimsmixedviews

          I'm curious... have you ever actually bagged anything... as a hunter it would appear that you'd starve as you're not very good at your job.

          July 17, 2013 at 3:27 pm |
        • Rodents for Romney

          Like anyone cares what you think.

          July 17, 2013 at 3:30 pm |
    • ME II

      "If Dawkins really believed what atheists supposedly believe, ..."

      "Atheism" denotes a lack of belief, not the other way around.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:20 pm |
    • jimsmixedviews

      We aren't waiting for an ultimate death.... we are revelling in life. We don't do good things to be patted on the head by an imaginary Bill Cosby Ghost Dad who will bring us Jello Pudding Pops for eternity.

      We do good things because they are good things to do. We know that is our only life. This amazing incredible experience that we get to have. Dawkins isn't moping about, he's trying to encourage others to enjoy there life. Do good works, try to put something better into the world. Let yourself get entangled with people around you and make this world a better place. We we die we are gone.

      I intend to leave the world the better for it. Not live by some made up contradictory misogynistic texts written in the bronze age.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
  8. gus308

    I consider myself a #6. I was raised in a strong christian family, chuch every sunday, suday school, confrimation etc
    but the more I studied about it the less I beileved it was true. I looked at other religions too. after all there were millions of people who belived in other "gods" . But every one just brought me to the same conclusion. Religion was created by man as a way to gain power and control others. normally thru fear. I dont try to convince others that I am right or wrong, but I do let them know my status so they are not insulted when I dont pray for or with them.
    Coming out, so to speak, was one of the most dificult things I have done.
    I hope that my grand children are taught about all of the religions and feel free to make up thier own minds.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
  9. Enter "The Atheist Hunter"

    http://creation.com/is-richard-dawkins-an-atheist

    July 17, 2013 at 3:11 pm |
    • meifumado

      http://richarddawkinsfoundation.org/

      July 17, 2013 at 3:43 pm |
  10. Toms345

    ... and why is an article about atheism on the Belief blog? it should be on the Disbelief blog.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • sam

      Well, it's also not called the 'super religious fun time' blog. C'mon, you can troll better than this, I'm sure of it.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:09 pm |
  11. bbg

    It is sad that we have to spend time on this question at all. I would much rather go pray and then spew hate at everyone different than me because I read it in the some book or some preacher told me too and I am too ignorant to think for myself... Oops I forgot I am not religious so I do not have to in the name of defending my god or my uncertainty. How can one possibly think they are presenting evidence from phrases in a book that is, at best, fiction ? Beware of those who tell you their beliefs so you may be saved. They usually have many other dirty habits.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      "Never trust someone who only reads from one book"

      July 17, 2013 at 3:12 pm |
  12. Colin

    If an alien civilization ever did visit Earth, they would probably sum us up as “they have potential, but are still haunted by their superst.itions from the Greco-Roman era. Check back in 500 years.”

    July 17, 2013 at 3:04 pm |
    • sam

      Oh hell no. If they've seen any of our reality TV, they will never be back.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:11 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        Any 'Housewives' or Kardashian shows and the Earth will be banned from the Galactic Mileau...

        July 17, 2013 at 3:16 pm |
  13. lol??

    lol??
    Johnny Noir sayz, To Burke!
    It would have helped to address the real substance of my comment. What about racists like lol?? ................."

    I've always held to the Ark story and Noe, just like Jesus. Does your bwain understand the implications of that?? Now get crackin' and prove Noe's wife was, In the field of human genetics, Mitochondrial Eve.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:02 pm |
    • Rodents for Romney

      There never was a genetic bottleneck in the ancient Near East.
      Proven by Genetics.
      The ark was said to come to rest on Mt. Ararat. Impossible. There never was an ancient flood in the Near East.
      There is NO silt layer. Archaeologist have proven that, and have excavated FAR below a layer where it could have been.
      Sorry. Noah was taken from the Epic of Gilgamesh. Completely mythological.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:06 pm |
    • Johnny Noir

      This is exactly what I am talking about, Mr. Burke. The arbitrary nature of your enforcement allows this fool to merrily abuse and troll along.

      This is my last post. I am leaving permanently, and I will never again even look at the Belief Blog.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:09 pm |
      • lol??

        Right huffy, just under a new sign-in.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:13 pm |
    • Akira

      So you are going to blame your racism on the Bible? Really?

      July 17, 2013 at 3:11 pm |
    • lol??

      Racism where?? There's only one race, silly.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:15 pm |
      • Akira

        Oh, sorry; I used racist. I meant bigot. The two so often go hand-in-hand.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm |
        • lol??

          You really had me confused there. BTW, you shouldn't be such a Hell bigot. It ain't forever.

          July 17, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
  14. Salero21

    Atheism is stupidity in Full bloom! I will always remind you and help you to remember so you don't forget.

    July 17, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
    • MY PANTS HURT

      Ignore the poe.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:05 pm |
    • Toms345

      Agreed! There is too much evidence against it.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:06 pm |
    • sly

      "Stupidity" blooms? I guess your God sewed some stupidity onto flowers when he was manufacturing them.

      Out here in the real world the flowers don't have stupidity, and it never blooms.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      What? I'm sorry, all I heard was 'Heil Hitler!'

      July 17, 2013 at 3:09 pm |
  15. Michael

    So who's the atheism evangelist there at cnn.com? Dan Merica? Seems like someone there keeps recycling the same old stuff over and over again, on a regular basis, and then leaving it up for a couple of weeks each time. Someone there is really pushing it.

    There WAS a similar pictorial survey of celebrity Christians, and of course they were all looneys, and the photos were comical. The bias was clear.

    Why do we need atheism–or any other religion for that matter–advertised on a supposedly neutral, supposedly objective news website? What belief systems celebrities subscribe to–is that really NEWSworthy?

    July 17, 2013 at 2:52 pm |
    • sam

      OUTRAGE!!!!

      It's an opinion blog that is linked from the front page.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:53 pm |
    • Colin

      If atheism is a religion, is NOT believing in UFOs a delusion?

      July 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
      • sam

        Well, the little green man that lives under my foil hat just whispered that it is.

        July 17, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
      • Rodents for Romney

        Yes it is.
        I believe in the religion of the 1957 not orbiting Pluto, but I'm thinking of converting to Teapot Not Orbiting the Sunism.

        July 17, 2013 at 2:59 pm |
      • Eddy

        There is a difference between UFOs and little green men from space. Most unidentified flying objects are the result of no or poor quality pictures which makes identification impossible and believing said objects don't exist because of a lack of identification is a bit deluded.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
    • Rodents for Romney

      Yes indeed. They FORCED you to come here. It's about clicks. Advertising clicks. Grow up.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:55 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      Please read the article. The pictures used are irrelevant. The pictures are a rehash from an earlier story where they were similarly irrelevant to the article.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:06 pm |
    • ME II

      Just curious, but assuming you saw the ti.tle of the article, why did you click on it?

      July 17, 2013 at 3:08 pm |
  16. Little minds can't comtemplate

    It's amazing how many people can look at this universe, contemplate the energy it contains and come to the conclusion that it all came from nothing. Or just throw "oh, there are billions of universes...". Really? We can't explain 1. Adding 999,999 thousand more doesn't "explain it".
    1st law of thermodynamics. An observation we made (but can't explain) because we don't understand where atoms / quarks get their sustaining energy. By what we know, they should dissipate as soon as they come into existence. Something is pumping energy into them to sustain. And, where is the "dark energy" driving the ever-accelerating spatial expansion?
    2nd law of thermodynamic. Here's your key. Entropy. "The Curse". This didn't exist until man's fall. Entropy = decay = death. The only thing in the Universe trying to desperately beat entropy is life. But, in this state, it never will.

    Bad scientists think science explains everything. Good scientists know how silly the idea of this "everything exactly right" by accident to have our Universe as it currently exists, is very akin to "the world is flat" mentality most men entertained. Thanks to Francesco Redi only 345 years ago (only about 4 life times...not much in the grand scope) we "discovered" maggots didn't spontaneously generate from meat.
    Only 17 years ago we had to re-write the text books. Again. Type 1A Supernovas + Chandra proved we were wrong. Again. The universe is not only still expanding, it's speeding UP in that expansion. Yeah, we understand it ALL, right?
    Not. There "science" for you. All the "intellectuals" that revere our science as the "the ultimate truth" fail to realize that science is only a series of less-wrongs. And sometimes, not even that..we think we have a new breakthrough, and have to say "oops" again.
    OPERA, and your "faster than light neutrinos"...I'm looking at you.
    *sigh*.

    July 17, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
    • sam

      So then god came from....?

      July 17, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
      • Little minds can't comtemplate

        He didn't "come from" anything. But don't worry, it's has hard for our minds to contemplate as an ant contemplating the stock market. Actually, harder.
        Space/Time was created with the Universe...anything outside of that is outside of time. It doesn't have a beginning or an end.
        Even if God didn't exist, time would not exist outside of our spatial universe. Either way, your mind STILL has to deal with two-way-eternal to even contemplate anything outside of this "existence".

        July 17, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
        • sam

          Ok, I can't do more than wave a hand at you and shake my head, and say, "so you knew enough to spell 'contemplate' correctly in the post, but couldn't fix your screen name??"

          July 17, 2013 at 3:28 pm |
        • Little minds can't contemplate

          Sam, the fact that you had to resort to name-calling of my misspelled screen name, which, no, I didn't catch, says quite a lot.
          I'm glad that was all you could think of. I hope I gave you something to think about.

          July 17, 2013 at 3:33 pm |
    • Colin

      You said, "It's amazing how many people can look at this universe, contemplate the energy it contains and come to the conclusion that it all came from nothing"

      I couldn't agree more. How utterly ignorant of people to think that a god could magically pop the whole thing into existence. What an absurd idea, this concept of a god is. It answers nothing. All it does is defer the big question one unnecessary step. The idea of a Universe creating god who was "always there" really should have gone away with the Enlightenment.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
      • Lucifer's Evil Twin

        LET's Religiosity Law #6 – If you routinely ignore physics, geology, astronomy, biology, etc., and are happy with “god did it” then you are mentally retarded.

        July 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
        • Little minds can't comtemplate

          Actually, those of us who understand Physics, Biology, and Astrophysics the MOST know that all the energy could not have came into existence spontaneously. And throwing billions of universes out there spawning more universes is a cop-out.
          Atheists often throw the "billions and billions" of years argument as an answer. But, you only have a little less than 14 billion to work with. 3.8 billion for the Earth itself (or, 1/3 of the lifetime of the universe...less, actually).
          That's not much time to work with.

          July 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
        • ME II

          @Little minds can't comtemplate,
          What's your point? There is evidence of life around 3 Billion years ago, or just over 1 Billion years after the planet formed.
          Fossils: "Earliest evidence of life found: 3.49 billion years ago" (http://phys.org/news/2013-01-earliest-evidence-life-billion-years.html)

          July 17, 2013 at 3:52 pm |
        • Little minds can't contemplate

          Exactly. It didn't take "billions and billions of years".
          Life exploded on this planet, all at once, almost immediately.

          Thanks for the support.

          July 17, 2013 at 3:59 pm |
        • ME II

          @Little minds can't contemplate
          Support for what?
          It didn't "explode", "all at once", it evolved over ~3.5 Billion years, with simple bacteria for nearly ~2.5 Billion years to us.

          July 17, 2013 at 4:14 pm |
        • ME II

          That should have been "simple single celled organisms for ~2.5 billion years" not just bacteria.

          July 17, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
      • Little minds can't contemplate

        I'm speaking to the amount, not type...wow.
        At 2.5B years, there was SO much life, it's photosynthesis created the Great Oxidation Event.
        That's a log of freaking life dude. Yeah, exploded. As said previously. I don't think I refereed to single or multi cellular. I said Life.
        Life doing what, with all our *science* can't replicate, except for very very crudely. Photosynthesis itself says a LOT.

        Then we have the Planaria, with no brain stem, only a vascular bundle, that somehow built a photon detector.
        Where did this intelligence come from? "Billions and billions of years...". Well, we only have less than a handfull to work with.

        And, evolution, or lack of, proves nothing regarding a creator. That could just as well be as it was created. But, we sill haven't found those interim organisms yet. Not with definite proof. Proof of what? Not much. Just that evolution either happens or doesn't.

        What NO ONE realized though, and humor me. If there were a being with enough power to create this Universe and all of it's energy an life (after all, SOMETHING did, obviously...we are here)....that "creator" would also have the power to have created it, oh, say ONE MINUTE ago, but with all the back-story and history of 13.7 Billions years. And do it so perfectly, we wouldn't have a clue.
        What about THAT hypothesis?

        The Universe exists. It exists with the *perfect* amount of gravity to generate all the elements life depends on, generated through Type 1A and other large Supernovae. There are so many "just rights" in us even BEING here, and only taking into account GRAVITY being "just right" (Fine tuned universe model) are Trillions upon Trillions upon Trillions....to ONE.
        We haven't even touched on the Strong, Weak, or EM forces.

        But, I suppose you know all about that anyway. Let's hear.

        July 17, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      The argument that our minds are too limited to consider god is self-refuting. If our minds are too limited to consider god's nature, then there's no reason to believe in one.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:53 pm |
      • Little minds can't comtemplate

        It's not a question of if you believe. That's a personal opinion. What matters is what really is.
        I know the energy contained in an atom. I contemplate how many are in the universe, and contemplate it every single day.
        I argue it takes MUCH more faith to believe it all came into existence, spontaneously (like Redi's meat-maggots), than the obvious "something created the energy". Looking back, we face-palm the "spontaneous generation" idea. Spontaneous Universe....same.
        Either you believe all that energy came from nothing, or it came from something.
        Either way, you rely on faith. Is your faith in nothing, or something?

        July 17, 2013 at 3:30 pm |
    • Which God?

      So, little mind, you start with a false premise (god didi it), and wind up with one that icludes a fairy tale (Jesus saves all from sin, blah, blah)?
      Your "scientific" premise is also off. Your use of "good scientists and "bad scientist," show your ignorance. You really aren't worth responding to any further.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
      • Little minds can't contemplate

        That's just an argument. I say yours is a false premise, nothing did it. I say something. You say nothing.
        Either way, your putting that faith somewhere. I don't have much faith in nothing. Not much there to place it in.

        I do, however, have an inkling of the amount of energy contained in this Universe. And I know it didn't just "show up".
        ("Bang" is a misnomer, more like big "Pfffft", as in inflation).

        July 17, 2013 at 5:17 pm |
    • WASP

      @little mind: science saids the universe started from something; religion states "god did it"

      XD

      here is some homework for your little mind. "energy CAN NOT be created nor destroyed" let the implications of that slowly sink in.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
    • Alias

      I never get a good answer to this question, but i'm stubborn:
      Even if you convince me a god exists, how can I be sure you have picked the right one?

      July 17, 2013 at 2:59 pm |
      • Little minds can't contemplate

        I pick the one that had the power to create the universe. "Whichever one that may be"

        As far as why Jesus, it's because I can't go dig him up. I can go dig up all the other prophets. 😉 (Won't go into my personal "proof", but it's there).
        We all realize he had a ministry of 3.5 years (I've had leases longer than that), and we count time by his life, right? Like, 2000 years later? And that all the apostles, who scattered like rats at his death, ended up giving their very lives in horrible ways in support of who he was? What changed between the time he gave up the ghost, with his follower fleeing into the night, but then to come back and DIE for him? Lee Strobel (former Atheist) even figured THAT much out.

        Hint (again) – When original sin by man entered, so did Entropy. Entropy IS the "curse".
        I can go through Genesis and show you how everything matches up perfectly with our current model. Last part I was waiting on was the Higgs field.
        Done.

        July 17, 2013 at 5:28 pm |
    • jimsmixedviews

      Hey good for you, you went straight to the thermodynamics fallacy. The 2nd law of Thermodynamics involves a closed system. The earth is not a closed system. We get light and energy from our sun. Matter falls from asteroids. Gases escape.

      Your God of the Gaps approach is getting smaller and smaller every time we learn more. God used to be responsible for rainbows, storms, tornado's and crops... now you relegate him to the small areas of science undiscovered. What happens to him when you science closes those doors too. Science is not afraid to say 'this is our best understanding" until we know it's a fact. We've harnessed electricity, cured disease that formerly devastated humanity and allowed machines we've made to walk on other planets. What knowledge have we gained. What has religion brought the world but separation because your sky fairy is different from their sky fairy. What have we learned from religion?

      Little minds are the one that won't acknowledge the verifiable truths that science has brought the world. Little minds cling to the their Santa for grown ups because they are afraid of what happens when we die.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:59 pm |
      • Colin

        Are you a carpenter? you just hit the nail on the head.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:02 pm |
      • Raider

        Great post!

        July 17, 2013 at 3:24 pm |
      • Little minds can't contemplate

        *sigh*
        The closed system just related to heat engines. Now your ignorance is showing.
        Not Entropy on a Universal scale. Un-acted on by external forces, everything decays (albeit life is really trying to go the other way...). Our current model states that, in Trillions of years, all that is left are brown dwarfs and black holes, which will slowly dissipate back to nothingness. Or, the highest state of Entropy. The highest state is where everything is the same. And once again, nothing will act on nothing....or....something will act on nothing.
        Seriously folks, did ANYONE pay attention in school?

        July 17, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
    • bfpiercelk

      Your explanations of the 1st and 2nd law are bad, and you should feel bad.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
      • Little minds can't contemplate

        Really?
        Why don't you enlighten us then?
        I know my physics. Do you?

        July 17, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
    • Akira

      Your moniker describes your position very well. Although it should say "closed".

      July 17, 2013 at 3:02 pm |
      • Little minds can't contemplate

        As you are.

        July 17, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • Rodents for Romney

      And you can't stand open questions, so instead of saying "we don't know yet", you NEED to say "oh the gods did it", (because that is the extent of your creativity).
      Valium works well for that sort of anxiety.
      It's called "an'al-retentive personality disorder.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:02 pm |
    • Rodents for Romney

      AT least they don't say "I have the ultimate truth. Bow down."
      Science is a METHOD. They DO know far more today than 100m years ago. No thanks to religion, which NEVER revealed any truth. ALl religions takes cutural conventions, and puts them in their books. They contribute nothing original.
      I suppose when you have a heart attack you will just pray, and not make use of science.
      You also would not use DNA if you were innocent and in prison.
      Right.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:14 pm |
      • Little minds can't contemplate

        You are very correct. Man's organized religion is the reason there are atheists.
        The worst thing to ever happen to Christianity is "most Christians".

        I don't have religion. I simply have a relationship with my creator.

        July 17, 2013 at 5:34 pm |
  17. barbarianofgor

    I was an Athiest most of my life. Mostly from the "Anti-Thiest" school where it was inspired by rebellion against and disgust of organized religion... "If that .... claims to be the eyes, ears... and OTHER body parts of G-d..." Knowing people who'd been 'home schooled' and were covered with burns from the family iron. Fun making that various rules are "Bronze age Taboo" such as "Marge, have you ever sat down and READ this thing? Technically, we can't go to the bathroom..."

    Later, I had an ... experience ... and no not near-death and now simply believe in God.

    Now, disclaimer, I am NOT a "Prophet of the New Age".
    I'm just one who believes now.

    God simply wants us to believe in him, to love him, to be nicer to our fellow man for the sake of it. Though perhaps 'guides' can be helpful "This is between you and me, come back to me". No one has authority, look at the passion, when Jesus resurrected an earthquake shattered the temple and the "Holy of Holies" laid bare for all to see. In short, that no one ever could be an intermediary for every religion had failed, become corrupt.

    And, yeah, there's lots of evil and wrong in the world, its a by-product of "Free will". There's a neat wisdom story where the Devil says "Dedicated I am to my war to bring about the ruin of the Children of Adam, whom hatred of and jealousy of brought about my downfall. But if I managed an act of evil for every year, every month, every week, every day, every hour and every minute man would still credit me with far more than I accomplished." Its quite tragic, but knowing there's God things are now alright...

    So, probably plenty of flames for posting this here. I am not banging the bible screaming God is a boogeyman out to burn you if you don't go to Preechur Joe's bar and grill and Baptist revival. I am just saying I was an Athiest and now believe. Are you rebelling against God himself, or the twisted, mythological image of him, or rather those that claim to be his eyes and ears and beat a Bronze age work selectively? Its simply that God indeed is real and wants you to believe in him and to love him.

    July 17, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
    • God wears panties

      Did god tell you, talk to you? Did you hear his voice? Or did you read something written by men?

      July 17, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • God wears panties

      in addition, people in mental wards have "experiences" every day

      July 17, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
    • Robert Brown

      Amen Barbarian

      July 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
    • Anon

      Note to self: See a neurologist in case of brain damage.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
    • Lucifer's Evil Twin

      The only way you can go from being an atheist to a believer, is if you suffered some kind of brain injury... then it would be wholly understandable and we would forgive you...

      July 17, 2013 at 2:58 pm |
    • Good for you

      I rebelled against that image along time ago, I'm now agnostic but I'd like for a kind and gentle deity to exist somewhere if it were possible.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
    • sly

      " I am just saying I was an Athiest and now believe. Are you rebelling against God himself, or the twisted, mythological image of him, or rather those that claim to be his eyes and ears and beat a Bronze age work selectively? Its simply that God indeed is real and wants you to believe in him and to love him."
      --
      See, this is why we think some of y'all are complete fools. You are not content to express your opinion, instead, anyone that doesn't agree with your is 'rebelling'. Fool comment #1.

      And your God is so pathetic She 'wants everyone to believe in her'? What the hell kinda God did you create for yourself? Sounds more like Brittany Spears than a real God.

      When I create my own God, that God will be one kick-ass-take-no-names God, not some pansy narcissitstic insecure deity.

      Wow, 2013, everything is devaued, and even our God's rely on social network's for self-assurance.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:15 pm |
    • MY PANTS HURT

      One cannot rebel against that which does not exist. End of discussion.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:16 pm |
  18. Enter "The Atheist Hunter"

    Why do atheists hate God?
    Editorial

    by Don Batten

    Recently, I have had a lot of conversations with atheists. Many express a strong hatred of God. I have been at a loss to explain this. How can you hate someone you don’t believe in? Why the hostility? If God does not exist, shouldn’t atheists just relax and seek a good time before they become plant food? Why should it matter if people believe in God? Nothing matters if atheism is true.

    Aldous Huxley (1894–1963), the brother of the atheistic evolutionist Sir Julian Huxley, advocated a drug-fuelled utopia. He gave the reason for his anti-Christian stance:

    If God does not exist, shouldn’t atheists just relax and seek a good time before they become plant food? Why should it matter if people believe in God?

    “I had motive for not wanting the world to have a meaning … the philosophy of meaninglessness was essentially an instrument of liberation, se xual and political.”1
    Like Huxley, some people don’t like God because they don’t like moral constraints—you can make up your own rules, or have none at all, if God does not exist. They hate God and Christians because they are actually not confident that God does not exist and seeing Christians may remind them that they are ‘suppressing the truth’ (Romans 1:18).

    What about atheists who had a church/religious upbringing? Some of them hate God because of evil things done to them by teachers in religious schools or by church leaders—people who on the face of it represented God. Antipathy towards God is an understandable reaction, sadly (although illogical).

    Some atheists complain of Christian ‘intolerance’ in speaking about hell. But if those who spurn God’s forgiveness will suffer God’s wrath, as the Bible teaches, shouldn’t we Christians be warning everyone about the danger and how they can be saved? How is that ‘intolerant’?

    Many complain about hell; they are angry at God because of he ll. I understand that teachers in certain church-based schools, and parents in some ‘religious’ homes, commonly used the ‘fear of God’ to make children behave. “You are bad; you will burn in he ll if you don’t behave.” But such a simplistic works-oriented approach not only trivializes this most serious of subjects, it negates the Gospel of God’s grace. (We are all ‘bad’ in God’s eyes, and ‘behaving properly’ will not save us—only Jesus can.)

    A child who is having difficulties may well conclude that there is no way out for them, leading to years of nightmares about suffering in he ll. Such a troubled teenager hearing an atheist say that evolution explains how we got here and that God is a myth2 could find this to be a liberating message, a release from their fears.

    The Gospel (good news, see p. 41) is missing from all this. The Bible tells us that God is in the business of salvation. Though His wrath regarding sin is all too real (as seen in the Fall and Flood judgments; pp. 12–14, p. 15), we need not suffer it. Those who come to Him in repentance and faith will not be turned away (John 6:37). See also pp. 33–34.

    “For God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)
    It is strange that people hate God, who loves so much.

    Some atheists complain of Christian ‘intolerance’ in speaking about he ll. But if those who spurn God’s forgiveness will suffer God’s wrath, shouldn’t we Christians be warning everyone about the danger and how they can be saved? How is that ‘intolerant’? It would be extremely unloving not to tell others of this.

    July 17, 2013 at 2:41 pm |
    • God wears panties

      "Christians be warning everyone "
      >
      sorry some of us do not believe in ghosts, goblins, demons, bridge trolls, faiioes etc

      July 17, 2013 at 2:44 pm |
    • Melissa

      Wow, you're arrogant. Remember, your bible calls that kind of arrogance "pride" and says that you will go to hell for it.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
      • Dino

        "your bible"? not my bible. Don't force your belief system on me or others.

        July 17, 2013 at 3:05 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      There is no evidence for any god including yours. The foundation of your religion is shown to be incorrect. I can't hate something that doesn't exist.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:45 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      You seem to believe a lot of falsehoods based on your misunderstanding of others and their viewpoints. Your name says it all. Thank you for explaining to me that your god is such an azzhole that he thinks it's a good idea for some people to be tortured forever and ever. I can't believe in a god who is that disgusting. I don't hate your god, I just don't believe that a being so horrific would also make the universe the way it seems to be.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
    • sam

      Batten is a young earth creationist. That tells us all we need to know, huh?

      July 17, 2013 at 2:47 pm |
    • meifumado

      Pure nonsense from a biased point of view.

      Every atheist is different.

      I would have to say atheists do not hate the imaginary being believers call god, What we dislike is the fact that our fellow humans have been duped, brainwashed and indoctrinated into a false reality.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:50 pm |
    • Colin

      "Many express a strong hatred of God." Well, they are believers, not atheists. It is impossible to have an emotional reaction to something that you believe does not exist.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:51 pm |
    • Athy

      Hunter, you seem to be confused about what an atheist is. We don't hate god. Repeat that sentence 500 times until you get it. We don't hate god. We don't believe there is a god to hate. He doesn't exist. He's not there. You can't hate a nonexistent thing. There just isn't any god to hate. Think about that for a while, Hunter. Maybe with time you'll begin to understand it. But somehow I doubt it.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:53 pm |
      • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

        Which ironically is what this study set out to demonstrate.

        The study found that only about 15% of the non-believers surveyed self-identified with the label "anti-theist".

        It is tiresome to see religionists continually conflating the word atheist with the behaviors of anti-theists.

        July 17, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      "Aldous Huxley (1894–1963), the brother of the atheistic evolutionist Sir Julian Huxley, advocated a drug-fuelled utopia. He gave the reason for his anti-Christian stance:

      Aldous Huxley's novel 'Brave New World' described a dsytopia – not a utopia.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:53 pm |
    • Melissa

      And btw, no one hates your imaginary god, they hate you christians because of your behavior. You know how you act towards atheists? Its the same way you react when people of other religions talk that way to YOU.

      July 17, 2013 at 2:54 pm |
    • OTOH

      Atheist Hunter,

      Your Don Batten is clueless. Get him over here to these blogs so he can learn some basics. Atheists do not hate "God", nor are we angry with him. We do not believe that he (nor any other gods) exist. The fact that we refer to 'him' as "God" is because that is the name you all have given your fictional, fantasy character, and have endowed him with certain characteristics and behaviors. People have written entire books about the whale, "Moby Dick", for example, but that does not mean that they think he is/was real.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:01 pm |
    • annette

      They don't hate god. They just don't believe in it. There's a big difference.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:26 pm |
    • not so wise...

      I think the real negativity from atheists comes from that feeling of being lied to their whole lives. When you come from a religious household, and then you get an education, and study some science, possibly later in life, then you come to the (sometimes) obvious conclusion that there is nobody monitoring everything you think, say, or do. You feel betrayed, and by the very people you trust and love. it's not mom or dad's fault, they were trying to raise their kids right. But the lie is still right there in your face. On buildings and monuments, on TV, and the awards ceremony, and on signs that people shove in your face, and knocking on your door at 9am on a saturday. Thus bitter feelings of betrayal have a target. Its especially bad when people who still believe, try and tell non-believers that they're horrible, evil, people just because they don't look at the sky the same way. Think about it.

      July 17, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
  19. Jaded

    I'm an Anti Theist.

    July 17, 2013 at 2:40 pm |
    • fiveliters

      I would be in the non-theist category;my question would be,if (by request), you go to church,jump up and down,put money in the collection plate,etc. but you don't actually -feel- whatever it is that the other people there claim to,should you fake it and be a 'believer', or know that inside,you admit,eh,I'm not moved,inspired or otherwise affected,so...why am I doing this? I grew up in a religious family,and could never understand what all of the fuss was about,and as an adult...I still don't. If it gets them through the day,great. Me...I will sleep in on Sundays and be the marginally flawed person everyone knows me to be.

      July 17, 2013 at 3:25 pm |
  20. Al

    A man I knew once told me this... "Religion... People's way to make God convenient to them.", I feel sometimes this man was wise.

    July 17, 2013 at 2:40 pm |
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