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July 15th, 2013
02:50 PM ET

Behold, the six types of atheists

By Dan Merica, CNN

(CNN) - How many ways are there to disbelieve in God?

At least six, according to a new study.

Two researchers at University of Tennessee at Chattanooga found that atheists and agnostics run the range from vocally anti-religious activists to nonbelievers who still observe some religious traditions.

“The main observation is that nonbelief is an ontologically diverse community,” write doctoral student Christopher Silver and undergraduate student Thomas Coleman.

“These categories are a first stab at this," Silver told the website Raw Story. "In 30 years, we may be looking at a typology of 32 types.”

Silver and Coleman derived their six types of nonbelievers from 59 interviews. We're pretty sure we've spotted all six in our comments section.

1) Intellectual atheist/agnostic

This type of nonbeliever seeks information and intellectual stimulation about atheism.

They like debating and arguing, particularly on popular Internet sites.

(Ahem.)

They're also well-versed in books and articles about religion and atheism, and prone to citing those works frequently.

2) Activist

These kinds of atheists and agnostics are not content with just disbelieving in God; they want to tell others why they reject religion and why society would be better off if we all did likewise.

They tend to be vocal about political causes like gay rights, feminism, the environment and the care of animals.

3) Seeker-agnostic

This group is made up of people who are unsure about the existence of a God but keep an open mind and recognize the limits of human knowledge and experience.

Silver and Coleman describe this group as people who regularly question their own beliefs and “do not hold a firm ideological position.”

That doesn't mean this group is confused, the researchers say. They just embrace uncertainty.

4) Anti-theist

This group regularly speaks out against religion and religious beliefs, usually by positioning themselves as “diametrically opposed to religious ideology,” Silver and Coleman wrote.

“Anti-theists view religion as ignorance and see any individual or institution associated with it as backward and socially detrimental,” the researchers wrote. “The Anti-Theist has a clear and – in their view, superior – understanding of the limitations and danger of religions.”

Anti-theists are outspoken, devoted and – at times – confrontational about their disbelief. They believe that "obvious fallacies in religion and belief should be aggressively addressed in some form or another.”

5) Non-theist

The smallest group among the six are the non-theists, people who do not involve themselves with either religion or anti-religion.

In many cases, this comes across as apathy or disinterest.

“A Non-Theist simply does not concern him or herself with religion,” Silver and Coleman wrote. “Religion plays no role or issue in one’s consciousness or worldview; nor does a Non- Theist have concern for the atheist or agnostic movement.”

They continue: “They simply do not believe, and in the same right, their absence of faith means the absence of anything religion in any form from their mental space.”

6) Ritual atheist

They don't believe in God, they don’t associate with religion, and they tend to believe there is no afterlife, but the sixth type of nonbeliever still finds useful the teachings of some religious traditions.

“They see these as more or less philosophical teachings of how to live life and achieve happiness than a path to transcendental liberation,” Silver and Coleman wrote. “For example, these individuals may participate in specific rituals, ceremonies, musical opportunities, meditation, yoga classes, or holiday traditions.”

For many of these nonbelievers, their adherence to ritual may stem from family traditions. For others, its a personal connection to, or respect for, the "profound symbolism" inherent within religious rituals, beliefs and ceremonies, according the researchers.

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The authors of this study have graciously agreed to field questions from our commenters. If you're interested, please post your question below or tweet it to us at @CNNBelief. 

We'll take the best questions to the authors and the Q&A will be posted in a follow-up article. 

Please try to keep your questions related to the study itself.

Thanks,
Daniel Burke

- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. Name

    Jesus, was it you..indeed.
    To flirt unkindly with my greed.
    Promises of eternal life
    When you knew it was not right
    When you knew what I need was willingness and comfort there?

    BoC, nothing is real.

    July 18, 2013 at 9:21 am |
  2. ThePROFESS10NAL

    Religion was created by the rich for the poor so the rich could march the poor to their deaths for a few more dollars in the name of god.

    July 18, 2013 at 9:21 am |
  3. Josh

    I think it's beyond the scope of this study, but Atheists are really a subset of three: Religionists, Atheists, and Agnostics/Spiritualists.

    There are people who believe firmly in a superior being, but do not ascribe to any religious dogma or practice. These people are not atheists, yet they might have similar 6 sub-types like the ones talked about in this article.

    July 18, 2013 at 8:51 am |
  4. ThePROFESS10NAL

    The single most important issue about religion is that it lets people not be held accountable for the world around them. They blame god for everything. This is why I can't stand religion. We own the world we live in, so we should start to take care of it and everything that lives in it.

    July 18, 2013 at 8:48 am |
    • JJ

      Actually, they give god credit for all good things and blame all the bad things on some poor guy named Satan or just trot out the free will or mysterious ways mantra to let their god off the hook and maintain their delusion.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:52 am |
      • ThePROFESS10NAL

        Yeah, that's basically my point. They don't want the responsibility for things that go wrong in the world.

        July 18, 2013 at 8:57 am |
      • Its all mine

        Actually, you're referring to anyone that uses religion as a crutch to do what they want and not take personal responsibility for their actions. This is not the teachings of any major religion. Christianity, Judaism, Islam, all have moral standards and that if you break those standards their are consequences. You cannot just push it off. You must truly be repentive and correct your actions.

        Don't get confused by those who use religion to push their agendas. This not acceptable and diminishes the love and acceptance those of us who are religious believe in.

        July 18, 2013 at 9:24 am |
  5. RichDres

    Many Atheists are actually Agnostic by definition. An atheist is SURE there is no god, and an Agnostic says "it can't be known". TH Huxley said "In matters of the intellect, do not pretend that conclusions are certain which are not demonstrated or demonstrabl"

    July 18, 2013 at 8:42 am |
    • JJ

      Wrong again. An atheist simply lacks a belief in a deity. Some atheists do however like to play tennis, eat strawberries, proclaim gods and fairies do not exist and shop at Target.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:48 am |
    • Saraswati

      Which is why the definitions as currently used in the atheist community are not adequate. Not only do they not jive with current usage (which IS relevant...see "anemia" for comparison) but they allow people to hide behind an overly general term to mask their true beliefs. Because so many of the more "certain" people call themselves "atheists" the more moderate non-believers shy away from this term. After all, why even have a term for every little thing in which you don't believe. The only people who really care enough not to be bothered by association with this term are atheists in the traditional sense of this term...they basically feel pretty sure no gods exist, though they will use the technicalities they claim for the term to argue that isn't the case.

      And no...I don't personally believe in any gods. But I find people who refuse to accept that the word "atheism" is problematic to be a bit naive.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:56 am |
      • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

        This thread has really highlighted the issue over what I see as misappropriation of the word atheist to mean either:

        1. the angry / militiant anti-religionist (anti-theist) or
        2. someone who will categorically state there is no God

        I am satisfied with the online OED definition

        One who denies or disbelieves the existence of a God.

        At this point I see theist and atheist as an essentially binary outcome. You believe in God, or you don't. (Atheist to me means anyone who is not a theist.)

        One who is not sure, clearly doesn't "believe". All the semantics over agnosticism are just that, semantics.

        For the sake of discussion, I would include 'belief in a higher power' in the theist category and the deist label is suitable there.

        July 18, 2013 at 11:10 am |
        • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

          (By "thread" I misspoke. I actually meant the aggregate of the responses to the article.)

          July 18, 2013 at 11:13 am |
        • Saraswati

          Denying and disbelieving are quite different from simply lacking belief. What many want to claim is that they simply lack belief...which is largely where I stand. However I don't think that is the case for the more vocal atheists. Most of them actively deny and disbelieve, and frankly I don't feel very much in common with that group. I also find that these folks intentionally try to blur the line and give the impression that they, too, just lack belief, when in fact their own words frequently show quite the contrary, that they feel quite certain that gods don't exist.

          July 18, 2013 at 11:30 am |
        • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

          Yes. I understand what you mean. The whole topic is fraught with agendas.

          Personally I'm not so in favor of distinguishing from "lack of belief" verus "disbelief". To me "disbelief" encompasses the range from what you label a more passive "lack of belief" (essentially the null set) on one end to a declaration of certainty of non-existence of God(s) on the other.

          I understand why people want to dissassociate themselves from anti-theists and activists. The archetype of the angry atheist is off-putting.

          While we do have a nuanced language, it struggles to express unbelief. Every word is overloaded and interpreted differently.

          July 18, 2013 at 11:40 am |
      • Saraswati

        Yes, the word disbelieve is troublesome. I think it is used more strongly in practice, but I would rather just not use the term

        To me there is a pretty big difference between lacking belief i n gods and feeling pretty sure there aren't any. It's not just wanting to dissociate from people who are pushy and obnoxious, but from people with whom I feel little in the way of intellectual unity. People who claim there is not god are making claims without evidence in the same way as Christians. They try to use legal procedural arguments about "burden of proof" for this, but you can't use a procedural argument to prove a case of existence and the attempt show ignorance of what they themselves are trying to do.

        July 18, 2013 at 11:50 am |
        • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

          Arguably 'nonbelief' is more encompassing than 'disbelief'. Unfortunately it is an nonword.

          Additionally, the believers look at the word 'disbelief' and then speciously assert that this is a tacit acknowledgement that there is a God and you're just in denial.

          You said

          "People who claim there is not god are making claims without evidence in the same way as Christians"

          I fully agree with this statement. It is related to the following observation:

          “The bigotry of the nonbeliever is for me nearly as funny as the bigotry of the believer.” – Albert Einstein

          I'm starting to feel more and more that something without the baggage of atheist and agnostic is requied for the set of people who do not believe in God or a higher power. Despite Einstein's observation, "nonbeliever" works pretty well for me.

          July 18, 2013 at 1:10 pm |
    • Monroe

      While you are correct that many atheists are agnostic not all all atheists are "sure" there is no god. An atheist is a person who does not believe in any god or gods. Think of this as a mid point on a line. On one end are agnostic atheists who don't believe in god(s) but do not claim to know there is no god. At the other end are gnostic atheists who claim to know that there is no god.
      The same comparison can be made with theists as well. The article is a bit simplistic. Atheists and theists alike are not easily pigen holed into any one category.

      July 18, 2013 at 9:05 am |
      • Saraswati

        I agree its simplistic, but that's the point of all categorization and statistics. The terms liberal, progressive, conservative, Christian, religious, extroverted, sociopathic etc. are all simplifications, too, but it doesn't mean they don't serve a purpose. If you wanted to research a cure for crime or shyness, or simply set a couple of friends up on a date, you'd pull out these imperfect but useful categories.

        July 18, 2013 at 9:10 am |
    • skytag

      Agnostics are people who would be atheists if they had the courage to take a stand.

      July 18, 2013 at 9:44 am |
    • tallulah13

      I believe that most atheists are open to the existence of a god, but only if indisputable evidence for a god is provided. As no such evidence yet exists, there is no reason at this time to believe in a god.

      July 18, 2013 at 9:53 am |
      • fintastic

        I think that is the most reasonable post I've read so far..... I am an atheist but show me evidence that god exsists and I will believe.... simple as that..... The bible and those special feelings belivers claim to have are in no way "evidence" of a god.

        July 18, 2013 at 10:40 am |
  6. TheObserver

    Without religion the world would be full of good people doing good things, and evil people doing evil things. But, for good peopl to do evil things, that takes religion.

    – Stephen Weinburg

    July 18, 2013 at 8:42 am |
  7. Agnostickids

    Science verses religion?

    What bible verse did they study to split the atom?

    How many "hail Mary's" did it take to put a man on the moon?

    Which prayer was it, again, that cured polio?

    What does religion bring you?

    July 18, 2013 at 8:39 am |
    • Tom

      'religion' doesn't bring you anything. But knowing, acknowledging, and accepting that GOD created all things, including all scientific concepts, is what brings you eternal life. He gave humans the ability to think and reason and come up with cures. But He also lets humans reject Him and live by their own standards. For those, He will severely judge and punish in an eternal lake of fire. You still have time to get to know the one and only GOD of the universe. Get your Bible and read the book of John. GOD will transform your life forever.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:49 am |
      • Dark Itch

        This statement is false. Please dismiss it.

        July 18, 2013 at 8:57 am |
        • Tom

          and your proof?

          July 18, 2013 at 9:03 am |
        • Dark Itch

          You make such claims, and have the audacity to demand proof otherwise?

          July 18, 2013 at 9:11 am |
      • ThePROFESS10NAL

        And who told you this? The same guy that had you blow him behind the altar?

        July 18, 2013 at 9:10 am |
      • Agnostickids

        @Tom...from what you wrote, it's very clear that god does nothing but scare you, punish you and spread hatred through your love of him. You have no real proof of him, yet science has indeed created "miracles."

        You're a scary creature Tom; yet another reason to shy away from your god and people like you. Take your fiery h*ll and shove it.

        July 18, 2013 at 9:11 am |
      • snowboarder

        @tom, there is no legitimate reason to believe any of what you have written to be true.

        July 18, 2013 at 9:42 am |
      • tallulah13

        Tom, exactly what proof do you have that your god exists? Real proof, not the bible or your pastors words or a feeling you have. What proof do you have of a god, and why do we need one, anyway?

        July 18, 2013 at 9:56 am |
      • fintastic

        Tom, ...Since you are making the claim that god exsists, where is you evidence?? we're waiting...

        July 18, 2013 at 10:45 am |
      • cedar rapids

        'For those, He will severely judge and punish in an eternal lake of fire'

        In the name of his boundless love, forgiveness and mercy right?

        July 18, 2013 at 1:15 pm |
    • ThePROFESS10NAL

      It brings them excuses not to be responsible for the world around them. Intellectual laziness.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:51 am |
    • Thomas

      You gave this list of accomplishments, then ask what has religion brought us? Most of the people that did these "great" things in science believed in a God. Neil Armstrong walked on the moon. He was a Deist, a belief system that is not common anymore but believes in a God. Many notable people at Nasa and the Apollo program were religious as well. Many on the Manhattan Project claimed a religion. Polio was first cured by Jonas Salk, born into Judism.

      You are claiming that the science produced by these men is great, but you are ignoring what those great men believed in. If they were so wise, then why are you dismissing their beliefs? You are asking what religion has brought us, it brought us these great men that did these great things. There are notable atheist scientists, but many people in the great and specific accomplishments you list as example were not exclusively done by Atheists or Agnostics at all. There are many on both sides of the debate about God, showing proof that science is not only best 'brought to us' by atheists nor agnostics nor any individual religion. It is brought to us equally by all people that observe the world and with diverse views, which is what science is...observation of natural order of the world as humans see it and can understand it. If all scientists shared a single world paradigm, it would really make for bad results because that would limit the ability to look at the world differently and be open-minded to other possible explanations. Please have a point before pushing your view on other people trying to convince them that Agnostics or Atheists are somehow wiser or superior. Regardless of what I believe, I don't see my views as any more informed or wise than other people's ability to make that decision for themselves. I don't try to convince people what to believe with respect to God. You can't force a belief on somebody. Nobody can prove there is a God nor that there is not one, so it is not science, it is belief.

      July 18, 2013 at 10:35 am |
      • cedar rapids

        ' You are asking what religion has brought us, it brought us these great men that did these great things.'

        No it didnt. Religion didnt 'create' these individuals, and wasnt their driving force behind what they did. Armstrong didnt walk on the moon in god's name.

        July 18, 2013 at 1:18 pm |
  8. Sandy

    Why would anyone want to 'not believe' in Almighty God? Having been called quite specifically at the age of 8 and having been Baptised in the Holy Spirit, with the same consequences, as in Acts Chapters 2, 8, 9. 10, and 19 – and having experienced the presence and power of the risen and living Lord Jesus Christ in amazing ways over these past 50 years I assure and reassure you that there are answers to the questions raised in the article above – and you too can share and experience the reality of the forgiveness of sin and the anointing power of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

    July 18, 2013 at 8:38 am |
    • fintastic

      @Sandy............. Why would i believe in something for which there is zero evidence? What you are describing is purely your imagination, nothing more.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:45 am |
    • Dark Itch

      Sandy, I highly recommend that you get your hands on a copy of the bible and read it. People that read it tend to become atheists because of it.

      For example, jesus tells his followers that the end times and his second coming would happen before their generation died off. Also, the Torah (the old testament) prophecies make no mention of anyone that fits jesus' description.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:52 am |
    • TheObserver

      But mainstream evangelical Christianity leaves no room for interpretation, and ostracizes those who believe differently. For example, many intelligent people believe that the stories of the Bible are ALLEGORICAL and not literal. For instance I don't think Jonah really lived in the belly of a whale and I don't think that I need to believe that story LITERALLY to be perceived as a good and devout Christian. But if I don't believe that same way the rest of the "church" does, I'm outcast. Revelation is an allegory written by John but its really an ALLEGORY about his disdain for the Roman empire. Genesis is also not a book I chose to interpret LITERALLY and so there was no place for me in a church.

      I believe the modern "church" represents what the Pharisees represented in Biblical times. The inflexible, judgmental, incompassionate, stubborn, armchair quarterbacks of the world who don't realize how beautifully they fit the Bible verse, 'Many will come after me and claim to know my name'.

      Just for kicks try this. Take a look at a map of the US state rankings in education, and look where the lowest states are. Now think of the areas in the US with most of the Bible thumpers and mega-church indoctrination. Coincidence?

      July 18, 2013 at 9:01 am |
    • skytag

      I have no interest in believing in anything for which there is no evidence. Your question is like asking why anyone wouldn't want to believe in Santa Claus.

      July 18, 2013 at 9:17 am |
    • snowboarder

      @sandy, there is no compelling reason to believe in your god or any others.

      July 18, 2013 at 9:38 am |
  9. jim atmad

    Holy cow, what a pile of crap. Agnostics are not atheists.
    "Anti-theists" can be people of faith who dislike religious structure or phony religiosity.
    A "non-theist" is an agnostic who hasn't given much thought to the subject.
    Whether you are an "activist" or participate in non-religious "rituals" to achieve personal growth doesn't have any bearing on your belief structure, only your expression of it.

    July 18, 2013 at 8:37 am |
    • Saraswati

      "Holy cow, what a pile of crap. Agnostics are not atheists."

      By the definitions used by the researchers, and many in the US atheist community,
      which was the subject of this study, atheist very well can be agnostic. You might want to read up on the definitions and look at some of the more detailed information on this study:

      http://www.atheismresearch.com/

      "'Anti-theists' can be people of faith who dislike religious structure or phony religiosity."

      That's a head-scratcher. Anti-theists are...well, anti theist. These are, by the very meaning of anti and theist, people opposed to god beievers. If a theist were anti-theist he or she would be against him or her self. They maybe anti-religious and theist, but unless they are self-haters, they aren't anti-theist.

      "A "non-theist" is an agnostic who hasn't given much thought to the subject."

      A non-theist may very well have cared a lot in their youth and research this stuff for years. But at this point in life they no longer care. Maybe because the realized religion isn't bad for everyone, or maybe because they got other interests, or maybe because they moved. This person might very well feel certain there is no god, but it is as relevent to their lives as the certainty they have that aliens aren't living in their basement. Not very.

      "Whether you are an 'activist" or participate in non-religious 'rituals' to achieve personal growth doesn't have any bearing on your belief structure, only your expression of it."

      This study, if you read the description from the authors, was as much a sociological study as a study of thought. The categories mix mostly psychology and sociology with a little ontology and metaphysics. It was meant to include these characteristics.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:48 am |
    • I'm not a GOPer, nor do I play one on TV

      @Jim,

      people of faith who dislike religious structure or phony religiosity

      are anti-religionists.

      "anti-theist is the most accepted of all the labels used in this study. It means exactly what the researchers say it means.

      July 18, 2013 at 11:30 am |
  10. Invisible Sky Daddy

    The h in he is always lowercase.

    July 18, 2013 at 8:31 am |
    • Thinker...

      Except at the beginning of a sentance.

      July 18, 2013 at 1:57 pm |
      • Nancy

        the letter H in the word "he" is capitalized at the beginning of sentences, too.

        July 18, 2013 at 2:07 pm |
  11. Harry coverston

    This is a seriously problematic "study." Agnosticism is lumped together with atheism though these are distinctly different phenomena. Moreover what does it mean to believe in G-d? Ask 10 people to give their first thought associated with the word G-d and you will likely get 10 answers. So against what is the study comparing these six categories of disbelief? The validity of any study is largely determined by its beginning methodology. This study sounds flawed from the outset.

    July 18, 2013 at 8:29 am |
  12. Old Enough

    I think that the difference between God and religion need to be addressed. God, is well, God, believe in God or not, it is your choice.
    Religion, on the other hand is mans ritualistic requirements and made up methods / protocols for worshiping, witnessing and / or defending God and rules of proper moral behavior. All religion is suspect, being a product of MAN.
    God, on the other hand, well you need to decide that for yourself.
    We should all leave people to believe what they want and respect their views. Explain your point of view only when asked. We will all be better off.

    July 18, 2013 at 8:25 am |
    • JJ

      Yes, one can believe in a higher power of some kind and not be a member of some man-made cult. Religions are little more than political parties with some kind of ideology.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:44 am |
      • skytag

        Political parties are religions.

        July 18, 2013 at 9:02 am |
    • Saraswati

      They should certainly be addressed, but I think it would be a smaller part of this study. We might, however, find that some atheists are anti-Religionist but not anti-theist. These might be some interesting finer distinctions. If they want to further this study they really need some people with a bit more survey design experience, some hard code experience ini cluster analysis, and probably a good bit more money.

      July 18, 2013 at 9:00 am |
    • Bill Deacon

      I agree OE. Having accepted the reality of a higher power, beyond human comprehension, I was left with the question "What then is my response?" My studies and travel led me to the Catholic faith. With all her sinners, saints, martyrs and scoundrels, she is the oldest, fullest, richest tradition from which to explore and express myself as a child of God and a follower of Jesus.

      July 18, 2013 at 9:19 am |
  13. Dave M

    Wonder how that Atheism is working out for Andy Rooney now......

    July 18, 2013 at 8:21 am |
    • midwest rail

      Let's assume that your belief is correct, and that Mr. Rooney has received his "just" punishment in the afterlife. You seem to revel in his demise, and are only too glad to imagine his suffering. Your atti-tude is what gives contemporary Christianity a bad name.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:27 am |
    • crackwalker

      It's working out exactly the same as it is for non-atheists. Lights out.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:28 am |
    • Lovecrafty

      Andy Rooney is back where he was when they built the pyramids...

      July 18, 2013 at 8:28 am |
    • skytag

      Same as Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, Islam, and Hinduism is working out for dead people who believed their fairytales. Once you're dead everything works the same.

      July 18, 2013 at 9:12 am |
  14. mary

    Why is such bias against atheists of any category expressed throughout the study, and particularly in the above summary?

    July 18, 2013 at 8:12 am |
    • Saraswati

      I don't see that, and considering the lead researcher appears to be an active atheist, it would be odd.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:27 am |
  15. Invisible Sky Daddy

    I just don't understand how christians cringe at the atrocities of Mohammed, but turn a blind eye and stick their fingers in their ear when it comes to yahweh and worship him. Why the double standard? Why do people worship a mass murderer of infants and children. I just don't get it! Christians are morally bankrupt.

    July 18, 2013 at 7:59 am |
    • Austin

      if you read the new testament you see that no war is ordained. the u.s. protectes and ensured our freedom through many wars. who would have beaten hitler if it was not for the u.s. and others warring along side.

      why do angels carry swords?

      July 18, 2013 at 8:04 am |
      • Dark Itch

        They have swords so they can have fun spilling all that blood–enough so that it'll be knee deep as promised in the bible. That sky hostess upstairs sure does like blood.

        July 18, 2013 at 8:12 am |
      • crackwalker

        So 'Christian' and 'US' are interchangeable?

        The US soldiers who fought the Nazis were of many faiths, not just christians. Some were atheists.

        The US government is supposed to stand for all of its citizens, regardless of their religion, or lack thereof.

        July 18, 2013 at 8:25 am |
    • Invisible Sky Daddy

      Austin, I am morally superior to you and your god who condones the stoning of gays and adulters and killing of children for making fun a bald dudes. Ya, your god is evil, and those who worship him are morally bankrupt, or completely ignorant of the god. Why would anybody worship anything they are ignorant about?

      July 18, 2013 at 8:30 am |
  16. Universe

    Quran says (Islamic Scripture)

    “They say , "We live only this life; we will not be resurrected. If you could only see them when they stand before their Lord! He would say, "Is this not the truth?" They would say, "Yes, by our Lord." He would say, "You have incurred the retribution by your disbelief." [6:30]

    “They even attribute to Him sons and daughters, without any knowledge. Be He glorified. He is the Most High, far above their claims.” Quran [6:100]

    “Recall that your Lord said to the angels, "I am placing a representative on Earth." They said, "Will You place therein one who will spread evil therein and shed blood, while we sing Your praises, glorify You, and uphold Your absolute authority?" He said, "I know what you do not know." [2:30]

    “The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be," and he was.” Quran [3:59]

    It does not befit God that He begets a son, be He glorified. To have anything done, He simply says to it, "Be," and it is. [19:35]

    “We have honored the children of Adam, and provided them with rides on land and in the sea. We provided for them good provisions, and we gave them greater advantages than many of our creatures.” Quran [17:70]

    “O children of Adam, we have provided you with garments to cover your bodies, as well as for luxury. But the best garment is the garment of righteousness. These are some of God's signs, that they may take heed.” Quran [7:26]

    “O children of Adam, do not let the devil dupe you as he did when he caused the eviction of your parents from Paradise, and the removal of their garments to expose their bodies. He and his tribe see you, while you do not see them. We appoint the devils as companions of those who do not believe.” Quran [7:27]

    “O children of Adam, when messengers come to you from among you, and recite My revelations to you, those who take heed and lead a righteous life, will have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.” Quran [7:35]

    “Losers indeed are those who disbelieve in meeting God, until the Hour comes to them suddenly, then say, "We deeply regret wasting our lives in this world." They will carry loads of their sins on their backs; what a miserable load! [6:31]

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    July 18, 2013 at 7:33 am |
    • Austin

      all you have to do is go to Leviticus, and notice that it was God who ordained the festiveal of first fruits. this festival after passover marked the day christ would rise from the grave, and become the first fruit of of the fruit of the spirit. this spritiual seed is why we are sons and daughters of God, grafted into his kingdom through the seal of the Holy Spirit.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:13 am |
      • Dark Itch

        Austin, please.

        If you read the Torah, you'll find that jesus failed to meet the prophecies. And he failed in a big way. You aren't convincing anyone otherwise.

        Did jesus reinstate animal sacrifice? No. -Prophecy fail
        Did jesus become a king in his lifetime? No. – Prophecy fail
        Did jesus become a great military leader? No. -Prophecy fail

        Also, the Hebrew people were not expecting a savior. That was completely outside of the scope of the prophecy that christians claim jesus fulfilled. There wasn't supposed to be a messiah. Read about it and other failures of the jesus myth in the Torah. Look up all of the prohecies in the Torah, and then ask yourself, "did jesus the myth actually do any of these things?" You will answer NO to every single one of them : ) Go on. Take your time.

        July 18, 2013 at 8:20 am |
        • FunnyAtheist

          It was a muslim, a christian and a jew on CNN website...

          July 18, 2013 at 8:51 am |
        • Yahoo

          Dark itch, would you believe a psychic that told you my wallet contains $10 or me opening my wallet and showing you I have $5?

          July 18, 2013 at 9:14 am |
        • Dark Itch

          I don't believe in any of the myths.

          July 18, 2013 at 9:15 am |
        • Dark Itch

          Yahoo, why would I have a conversation with a psychic to begin with?

          It seems to have escaped you intellectuals that I'm an atheist. *golf clap*

          July 18, 2013 at 9:18 am |
  17. Joao

    God is like the car, the bicycle, the airplane: it was invented by humans, but that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

    July 18, 2013 at 6:50 am |
    • Spiffy

      "God is like the car, the bicycle, the airplane"

      The visual of God with bumpers, peddles and fins is hilarious.

      July 18, 2013 at 7:37 am |
    • Hej

      A bicycle has a know cause, God doesn't. There's proof cars exist, but no proof God exist.
      God is more like a unicorn; invented by humans, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. But no reason to believe either of them exist.

      July 18, 2013 at 7:40 am |
    • Attack of the 50 Foot Magic Underwear

      Mrs. Krabappel to Ralph Wiggam:

      No, Ralph. Jesus didn't have wheels.

      July 18, 2013 at 7:43 am |
    • crackwalker

      But no one says we should listen to the bicycle and worship it.

      July 18, 2013 at 9:23 am |
  18. Ism schmism

    Even if you believe in God I'm pretty sure you are fully aware that God is not able to be perceived with any of the senses you currently possess. It's all perspective.

    July 18, 2013 at 6:02 am |
    • faith

      amen bro. who do god think he is? if he was god, and we became friends like all them religies say he wants, i think i'd know, don't u?

      i never heard nobody legitimate describe what god was like. it is just the hundreds of millions affective psycho schizoaffective whacos that hear voices and seen martians, like jimbo carter!

      and 2.3 mil ain't nothin

      July 18, 2013 at 6:45 am |
    • Dark Itch

      That's because one does not exist.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:22 am |
      • Robert

        Scripture says that the way of a fool is right in his own eyes; but he that heareth unto cousel is wise. I find that scripture is wise, and will make a man wise. In reality debating with folks that don't believe the bible is a waste of time. I think I will dust off my shoes and move onto greener pastures.

        July 18, 2013 at 9:02 am |
        • faith

          i think i'll have lunch.

          July 18, 2013 at 9:13 am |
        • Dark Itch

          The bible outright negates itself on multiple occasions. It is apparent you haven't actually read it. If that seems confusing to you, I'll state this in other terms.

          The bible has proven itself to be a work of fiction. There is no doubt that it is fiction due to its many shortcomings, mistakes, contradictions, references to missing texts, the fact that it literally borrows from Greek mythology (did you know that Tartaurus and Hades are from Greek mythology? -but they're in the bible!). The jesus myth ended on two alternative notes, which means that the story was fabricated. The jesus character claimed the end days and his second coming would take place before his contemporaries died. I could go on, but you would rather ignore factual information in favor of a continued existence in mythology.

          July 18, 2013 at 9:22 am |
        • tallulah13

          The bible says only a fool doesn't believe what the bible says. I find it amazing that anyone actually falls for that.

          July 18, 2013 at 9:58 am |
    • fintastic

      "God is not able to be perceived with any of the senses you currently possess."

      A convenience for the deluded.

      July 18, 2013 at 8:55 am |
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