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July 29th, 2013
06:30 PM ET

Pope quotes take flight on social media

By Kyle Almond, CNN

(CNN) – Perhaps it's fitting that the pope's first news conference was held onboard an airplane. Since Monday morning his comments have soared around the globe at high speed.

His remarks on homosexuality filled many Catholics with hope, especially those longing for the church to accept gays and lesbians more openly.

But they also discouraged others, including those who believe the Catholic Church should ordain women. 

Some social media commenters said they were just plain confused.

The pope was flying back from a weeklong visit to Brazil, his first international trip as pontiff, when he talked to reporters about a wide range of controversial topics.

His comments on gays and lesbians garnered the most attention.

“If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them?” said Francis. He added that the church’s problem isn’t homosexuality, but rather those who lobby against the interest of the church.

READ MORE: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

The pope’s remarks don’t signal a groundbreaking shift in church policy, but they do carry weight with those fighting for acceptance.

“I think it is a welcome change in tone from the really harsh and damaging rhetoric that LGBT Catholics and their families have gotten from the last two popes,” said Marianne Duddy-Burke, executive director of DignityUSA, which focuses on LGBT rights in the Catholic Church.

In 2005, during the papacy of Pope Benedict XVI, the Vatican issued directives that barred men from the priesthood "who are actively homosexual, have deep-seated homosexual tendencies, or support the so-called 'gay culture.' "

That policy has been unevenly applied in the years since, said John L. Allen Jr., CNN’s senior Vatican analyst, but it has had an effect on public perception.

“Many gays and lesbians would probably say they don’t always hear a message of respect and compassion from Catholic leaders,” Allen said. “Instead, what they often seem to hear is precisely judgment. At that level, Francis is setting a new tone, one of acceptance and welcome, without reversing any doctrinal positions.”

READ MORE: Pope on gays: A shift in tone, not substance

Duddy-Burke agreed that the pope's remarks didn't  result in “any ground broken theologically.”

But, she said, they are “encouraging and welcome, and we hope that they would translate into the same kind of openness from other bishops here in this country and across the world.”

While the pope appeared to open one door Monday, he dismissed the possibility of ordaining women as priests.

“The church says no. That door is closed,” he said. In 1994, Pope John Paul II declared that the Catholic Church has no authority to ordain women.

Francis did say that women need to have a deeper role in the church, but his dismissal of women's ordination was “heartbreaking,” said Erin Saiz Hanna, executive director of the Women’s Ordination Conference.

“The church is not Pope John Paul II in 1994, nor is it Pope Francis today,” Hanna said. “It’s the people of the church that make up the church, and we know that the majority of Catholics support women’s ordination.”

Hanna said her group had much hope for Francis.

“We were there in Rome when he was announced, and there was a sense of relief,” she said. “We believed that he would take the church in a new direction, and up until this point he had been doing some things to show that - washing the feet of women on Holy Thursday - that broke all sorts of rules and had never been done before. …

“But in this one quick interview on an airplane, he completely destroyed hope for women.”

Some on social media were also confused by the pope’s stance.

Twitter user ‏‪@jobeans said: “Pope's ok with gay priests; not women. But hey, its only the 21st Century, right? ‪#pope”

Dawn Perretti Joblon‏‪ @DMJ8321 tweeted: “See new pope is open 2 gay priest but not women. Why does that not shock me. The Catholic church's continued bias towards women is pathetic”

Still, the majority of tweets and Facebook posts Monday focused on the pope’s remarks about homosexuality and not judging gays.

On a CNN Facebook chat, N Marlene Fleming praised the pope: “Thank God for this brilliant and humble man! A voice of reason, at last.”

Not everyone agreed.

"The pope is cool with gays and atheists now. Boy is he gonna be surprised when he reads the Bible," said @HDBtweets.

Others agreed with the pope's sentiment while still calling homosexuality a sin.

"We should hate the sin, the tendencies and love the sinner period - that was what the Pope meant," Ud Udodi Kachi said on Facebook. "Not marginalizing sinners, we all have all sinned."

Bill Donohue, the president of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights, said all the reaction has been overblown, especially by the mainstream media.

“The pope speaks about materialism for one straight week in Brazil before millions of people, and his formal comments garner 74 news stories on Lexis-Nexis,” Donohue said.

“He speaks off-the-cuff about homosexual priests before a handful of reporters on the airplane going back to Rome and his remarks trigger 220 news stories.”

What do you think about the pope’s remarks? Are they a big deal to you? Do you agree with them? Let us know in the comments below.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Catholic Church • Gay rights • Homosexuality • Pope Francis • Women

soundoff (25 Responses)
  1. mzh

    And [beware the Day] when Allah will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allah ?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen. 5:116

    I said not to them except what You commanded me – to worship Allah , my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness. 5:117

    If You should punish them – indeed they are Your servants; but if You forgive them – indeed it is You who is the Exalted in Might, the Wise. 5:118

    August 7, 2013 at 4:34 pm |
  2. L.S.B.

    Similarity and difference between north koreans and christians.
    Similarity: they both idolize.
    Difference: kim jung un vs Jesus
    and they curse each other for that.
    Funny.

    July 31, 2013 at 12:27 pm |
  3. cristyelizabeth

    Yes the Church is the spouse of Christ, those words they are actually from the scriptures of the bible. Jesus Christ love his church so much he died to save humanity. As much as the Christ loves the Church (the people in the world) so the people (Christians) will love Christ back through his teachings and commandments. Main one, Love God above everything, with all your heart and with all your soul. Love one another as Christ has loved you :)

    July 30, 2013 at 6:38 pm |
  4. teabagtwits

    "Who am I to judge"? Uh, how about religious people around the globe? Isn't that what they do? Isn't that all they have? When your whole raison d'etre is based on fantasy and myth, what else is there to do? And by the way, isn't he a wee bit late on this? Hasn't the catholic church been riddled with gay priests for centuries? Or is molesting young boys just sport?

    July 30, 2013 at 4:10 pm |
  5. Hank

    Are you kidding me? I left my thoughts on the first 20 blogs about the Pope. Milk it, why don't you?

    July 29, 2013 at 8:00 pm |
    • AgnosticKids

      Yeah, but no one actually cares what you think. All you do is whine.

      July 30, 2013 at 10:25 am |
  6. Thought Purification

    who are to to tell, dumb S.

    July 29, 2013 at 8:19 pm |
  7. Philip

    Glad you reconciled being gay, Douglas.

    July 29, 2013 at 9:14 pm |
  8. lionlylamb

    A well Monday to you Jarvis...

    In other words, "Judge not the deeds done in passing but judge the deeds still being done.."?

    July 30, 2013 at 1:04 pm |
  9. Bill

    Jarvis, your first mistake (amongst many) is to assume the bible is some sort of book of fact. It is mythology written hundreds of years after Christ. Not a single word from anyone who actually knew Jesus personally is in the bible. Jesus' followers, for better or worse, were illiterate and ignorant. Stop referring to the bible text as factual. It is myth, plain and simple.

    July 30, 2013 at 3:19 pm |
  10. bap

    Can't imagine where you got that information. The books of the new testament were written by those whose names they bear.

    August 2, 2013 at 12:28 pm |
  11. LinCA

    @His panic

    You said, "Hahaha or should I say Jajajaja. Your comments are awaiting "moderation"."
    I'm pretty sure you've been told before, but here it is again.

    CNN uses WordPress blogs for their opinion pieces, and they use automated censoring that looks for words, or fragments of words, that are considered offensive. If your post doesn't show up, it most likely had a forbidden word in it.

    On the Belief Blog, repeat posts, even those that were previously censored and not displayed, will show a message stating that you posted it before.

    The following words or word fragments will get your post censored (list is incomplete):
          arse             as in Arsenal
          bastard
          bitch
          clit
          cock           as in cockatiel
          coon           as in cocoon
          cracker
          cum             as in circumstance
          cunt
          douche
          effing
          fag
          ftw
          fuck
          goddamn
          gloryhole
          homo         as in homosexual
          hooters
          horny
          hump
          jackass
          jap
          jism
          kinky
          kooch
          necrophilia
          nigra         as in denigrate
          nigger
          nipple
          orgy
          pis
          poon
          porn
          prick
          pussy
          queer
          rape         as in grape
          sex           as in homosexual
          shit
          slut
          smut
          snatch
          spic         as in despicable
          tit               as in constitution or title
          twat
          vag           as in vague
          whore
          wonderful us
          wop
          wtf
          xxx

    To circumvent the filters you can break up the words by putting an extra character in, like: consti.tution (breaking the oh so naughty "tit").

    August 3, 2013 at 3:38 pm |
  12. In Other Words

    They are afraid, scared, worry.

    August 3, 2013 at 3:39 pm |
  13. My Name is Bond

    I am bloody mad now with this ar.se. So... without pa.ssion, pleasure or prejudice I will pursue this case. I just want hispanic to STHU! MI6 will receive a full report of this situation.

    August 3, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
  14. LinCA

    @His panic

    You said, "Seems that the Reply button is not working well today."
    I noticed. This blog seems to have some technical difficulties as of late.

    You said, "Yes I have read your interesting posts on this subject matter. Thanks for the info.!!"
    Your welcome.

    You said, "I don't use those words anyways, they are not part of my daily language."
    I realize that most of these words are not used much by themselves. The tricky part is when they are hidden in other, more commonly used words.

    For instance, there would typically be very little use for the word "vag" by itself, but as part of "vague" it is far more likely. The same goes for "tit" in "title" and "constitution".

    August 3, 2013 at 3:58 pm |
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