(CNN)–Rachel Evans and Hemant Mehta joined CNN's Brianna Keilar and Martin Savidge to speak about millenials losing their religion.
They were debating Evan's piece from the Belief Blog looking at why millenials are leaving the church and Mehta's response suggesting millenials are leaving the church to try atheism.
Tell us what you think. Join the conversation in the comments.
where r the christians?
had any interest in condemning stone but yours truly every other "christian" posting here is an athie it is all fraudulent there r no other christians posting here not one athie told her to stop stone wants to harm a lady seeeccksually in front of
no one had any interest in condemning stone but yours truly
every other "christian" posting here is an athie
it is all fraudulent
there r no other christians posting here
not one athie told her to stop
stone wants to harm a lady seeeccksually in front of her small child
not one told stone to shut up.
a christian did! a christian did! a christian did! a christian did!
stone wants to harm a lady seeeccksually in front of her baby
stone wants to harm a lady seeeccksually in front of trig
god haters r afraid to test him
"The problem is popular Christianity is so unlike the message of love for God, neighbor and enemy that Christ Himself commanded that it discredits the whole faith. Those who truly know the message of Christ need to stand up and point out the discrepancies."
nah. the problem is there ain't no problems. religion was invented to make you feel guilty so you'd go to church, fork over big bucks and then feel better
Mother of Salvation: A new, bitter world war will be declared
Friday, September 6th, 2013
My dear child, I must, on the instructions of my Son, Jesus Christ, reveal that the wars, which will unfold now, in the Middle East, will herald the great battle, as a new, bitter world war will be declared.
How this breaks the Sacred Heart of my poor suffering Son. The hatred, which infuses the hearts of those leaders, entrusted with the responsibility of running their countries, by ordinary people, will spread. They will betray their own nations. Millions will be killed and many nations will be involved. You must know that the souls of those who will be murdered and who are innocent of any crime will be saved by my Son.
The speed of these wars will escalate and no sooner will four parts of the world become involved than the Great War will be announced. Sadly, nuclear weapons will be used and many will suffer. It will be a frightening war, but it will not last long.
Pray, pray, pray for all the innocent souls and continue to recite my Most Holy Rosary, three times a day, in order to ease the suffering, which will result because of World War III.
Thank you, my child, for responding to my call. Know that there is great sadness in Heaven at this time and it is with a heavy heart that I bring you this difficult news.
Mother of Salvation
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If you want to know why millenials are leaving the church, go read the The Gospel According to Thomas and realize what a mockery the church has become.
Not only that, but there are numerous connections of the Vatican to the Mafia and to arms trading. It seems when people experience holey righteousness corruption occurs and absolute belief in righteousness creates absolute corruption.
Many people are leaving the churches because, they're tired of seeing their money not going, where it was intended, which was to help the poor. As Joyce Meier put it, I don't apologize for driving a Cadillac. I myself still believe in God, but I stopped going to church, when they wanted my bank account number, and no matter how much money they had, it was never enough. Church is nothing but a pack of fast talkers, looking for suckers!
I never even heard of creationism, the fundamentalist belief that they have scientific evidence for a very young earth, that evolution is bad science and which attacks many tenets of established science until I went to graduate school to obtain a degree in geology.
Even then, I didn't see it again for 25 years until, getting to Texas, I started noticing it in reports about the State Board of Education.
If I had one idea about what's wrong with Christianity today is that the even moderately well educated recognize the hypocrisy and fraud common to fundy churches on science, gay rights, climate change , womens rights and a host of other issues.
The reactionary behavior of so many adult Christians is simply driving young people away. The message of Christ is totally lost in conservative dogma in many of America's(but not all) Churches.
out of his unfathomable love
the price god had to pay,
watching his son die a slow agonizing death
and every living thing that moved on land perished—birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind.
for you and me
Sounds like a plot for a "B" rated movie.
The problem is popular Christianity is so unlike the message of love for God, neighbor and enemy that Christ Himself commanded that it discredits the whole faith. Those who truly know the message of Christ need to stand up and point out the discrepancies.
And start another religion? Don't we have too many religious wars already?
The fact that there is no good reason to believe anything they say probably has something to do with the exodus. – A millenial former catholic.
There has been a really sharp decline in the number of people that the earth is the center of the universe, and the sun revolves around the earth. Wonder why.
My thoughts exactly
Why are people leaving the church?? Because it is no longer relevant to life as we know it. Educated individuals don't need theologians prancing around telling them how to see and believe about God.....they are MORE than capable of making that discernment themselves. So, religion based on mere theology is pretty worthless to them. try doing something useful like real charity work of feeding the poor, healing the sick, and taking on hypocritical religious leaders. Do some good in the world.
the internet: where religions go to die
THE ENTIRE QURAN CAN BE SUMMARIZED IN FOLLOWING VERESE:
WHO IS ALLAH THE ALMIGHTY
112:1 – Say, "He is Allah , [who is] One,
112:2 – Allah-us-Samad (The Self-Sufficient Master, Whom all creatures need, He neither eats nor drinks).
112:3 – He begets not, nor was He begotten;
112:4 – And there is none co-equal or comparable unto Him.
20:8 – Allah! La ilahla illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He)! To Him belong the Best Names.
3:85 – Say, "We have believed in Allah and in what was revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and the Descendants, and in what was given to Moses and Jesus and to the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and we are Muslims [submitting] to Him."
2:285 – The Messenger has believed in what was revealed to him from his Lord, and [so have] the believers. All of them have believed in Allah and His angels and His books and His messengers, [saying], "We make no distinction between any of His messengers." And they say, "We hear and we obey. [We seek] Your forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the [final] destination."
2:256 – There shall be no compulsion in [acceptance of] the religion. The right course has become clear from the wrong. So whoever disbelieves in Taghut and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy handhold with no break in it. And Allah is Hearing and Knowing.
mzh, you've already been caught out in your lies. No, you won't get away this time with ignoring the explicit directives of the Quran for you to murder infidels, and to do other violent acts:
It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he has made slaughter in the land. – 8:67
Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. – 2:191
Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. – Sura 2:193 and 8:39
Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it. – 2:216
(different translation: ) Prescribed for you is fighting, though it is hateful to you.
..... martyrs.... Enter heaven – Surah 3:140-43
But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever you find them. – 4:89
O believers, take not Jews and Christians as friends; they are friends of each other. Those of you who make them his friends is one of them. God does not guide an unjust people. – 5:54
Make war on them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme – 8:39
O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there are 20 steadfast men among you, they shall vanquish 200; and if there are a hundred, they shall rout a thousand unbelievers, for they are devoid of understanding. – 8:65
Allah and His apostle are free from obligations to idol-worshipers. Proclaim a woeful punishment to the unbelievers. – 9:2-3
When the sacred months are over, slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. – 9:5
Fight those who believe neither in God nor the Last Day, nor what has been forbidden by God and his messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are People of the Book, until they pay the tribute and have been humbled. – 9:29 (another source: ) The unbelievers are impure and their abode is hell. (another source: ) Humiliate the non-Muslims to such an extent that they surrender and pay tribute.
mzh, you are a lying, deceptive con artist. Be gone!
Seems reasonable he could just come back and state something like "those don't actually apply to us", which seems a similar argument to that used by Christians regarding the more unsavory directives in the Old Testament .
It's amazing how close the commands are in the Quran and the Bible. Similar mindsets.
There is an explanation for these verses and mankind do not want to learn but to be in dark by their own choices... its very unfortunate....
After few accepted Islam among the Mekkans, they were being punished or tourtured and even some of them tourtured to death... but Muslims were told by prophet Muhammad (pbuh) to be patient and not to say anything in reply... so Muslim did not engage in fight with the Mekkans Idol worshppers... unless these verses were revealed...
"Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. – 2:191"? - Why have you left out the PRECEDING VERSE? Don't like it? Or are you IGNORANT about it. Here I will quote it for you to EDUCATE YOU. -
FIGHT IN THE WAY OF ALLAH AGAINST THOSE WHO FIGHT AGAINST YOU, BUT BEGIN NOT HOSTILITIES. Lo! Allah loveth not, aggressors. 2:190
The KEY WORDS are "BEGIN NOT HOSTILITIES" and "Allah loveth not, aggressors".
Every other verse on fighting and killing is SUBJECT to this particular verse.
Have you considered these verses too? -
AND SLAY THEM WHEREVER YE FIND THEM, AND DRIVE THEM OUT OF THE PLACES WHENCE THEY DROVE YOU OUT, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers 2:191
SO, IF THEY HOLD ALOOF FROM YOU AND WAGE NOT WAR AGAINST YOU AND OFFER YOU PEACE, ALLAH ALLOWETH YOU NO WAY AGAINST THEM. 4:90
O ye who believe! WHEN YE GO FORTH (TO FIGHT) IN THE WAY OF ALLAH, BE CAREFUL TO DISCRIMINATE, AND SAY NOT UNTO ONE WHO OFFERETH YOU PEACE: "THOU ARE NOT A BELIEVER;" seeking the chance profits of this life (so that ye may despoil him).
AND IF THEY INCLINE TO PEACE, INCLINE THOU ALSO TO IT, and trust in Allah. Lo! He is the Hearer, the Knower. 8:61
The "Holy" Bible commands its followers (Christians & Jews) to kill EVERY MAN, WOMAN and CHILD of EVERY CITY they took. Can you find as SIMILAR HORRIBLE GENOCIDAL verse in the Quran? If so quote it.
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