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August 24th, 2013
08:40 AM ET

Should Christianity be so boring?

Opinion by Jon Acuff, Special to CNN

(CNN) - No one has ever accused us Christians of being fun.

No one has ever said we are a laugh-filled group.

No atheist has ever said, “I might not love Jesus, but his followers sure know how to party!”

And yet, in my favorite story in the Bible we actually see Jesus paint the opposite picture.

If you’re a Christian, you’ve heard the Parable of the Prodigal Son in the Gospel of Luke referenced in approximately 42 million sermons. If you’ve missed it though, allow me to summarize.

A young son said to his dad, who represents God, “I want my inheritance.” This was the cultural equivalent of saying, “I wish you were dead!” The father gives him the money. The son immediately runs off to the Jersey shore and fist pumps the night away with 4 Loko and Skrillex. [Not a direct translation.]

After squandering all the money and awakening in a pig pen, the son devises a plan. He will come home, apologize and throw himself at the mercy of the father. His greatest hope is that the father will let him be a servant. He can’t even imagine getting to keep the title “son.”

He comes home expecting punishment, but instead something weird happens.

The father sees him from a distance and sprints toward him. He runs toward him and embraces him. Before the son can even get his whole apology out, the father has already started planning the last thing he expected.

A party.

Instead of punishment he gets a party.

The idea that God fixes problems with parties is crazy.

Who does that?

Life doesn’t work that way. Imagine that you messed up at work. Your boss called you in and said, “Johnson you lost our biggest account! You just cost this company more than 3 million dollars. You know what that makes me want to do? Throw you a party!”

Or think about this in the context of a marriage. Have you ever had an argument with your spouse? Not a fake argument but one that lands you on the couch overnight.

You come into the kitchen and your wife is doing that “mad dishwashing” move we all do when we’re upset. Just power scrubbing pots and pans with a vengeance, mumbling the entire time.

You approach her slowly and say, “Heyyyy baby, how do you feel this morning?” Without looking at you, she takes a deep breath and says, “You really hurt my feelings. Last night, you really surprised me by what you did. My mom was right about you. I’m so angry and disappointed. This whole thing makes me want to get an inflatable bounce house and throw a huge celebration in your honor!”

That would be ludicrous.

Our worst mistakes don’t end in parties, but in this story in the Bible, it did.

When given the opportunity to talk to a group of people, the picture Jesus drew of his Father was of a party giver; someone who met sinners with welcome home banners.

What if Christians were like that?

What if churches became the place where failures found new beginnings?

What if we were known for our parties, not for our Pharisees?

It all feels a little crazy, but I don’t think it’s impossible.

Christians should offer hope in exchange for hurt, new in exchange for old, parties in exchange for pain.

Are we there yet?

Nope, we’ve got a long way to go. We’ve still got a lot of things to work through, a lot of progress we have to make.

But when you think about the prodigal son story, I hope you will remember something.

Two people moved.

One walked.

One ran.

And we prodigals are the walkers.

We still have a running God.

And he is ready to throw a party.

Jon Acuff is a keynote speaker and the author of four books including The New York Times best-seller, START. Acuff is also the author of the popular blog, Stuff Christians Like.net.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Jon Acuff

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Church • Opinion

soundoff (4,711 Responses)
  1. Christianity would be WAY more exciting if we fed them to the Lions again!

    Please? Can we? Think of the good we'd be doing the world! And we'd be feeding hungry lions!

    August 24, 2013 at 12:03 pm |
    • lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

      Not only do the socies want the Christian's stuff, they want entertainment!

      August 24, 2013 at 12:08 pm |
  2. Apple Bush

    Can I just say this? Christians are Dorks. Many are very nice and kind, but they are Dorks. Just wanted to put that out there.

    August 24, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
    • lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

      HATE.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:05 pm |
    • lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

      This burning bush will be temporarily consumed.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
    • Apple Bush

      lol?? sorry, need clarification.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
    • lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

      Everybody gets a resurrection body. It can't be consumed.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:14 pm |
      • G to the T

        Is there sin in heaven?

        August 26, 2013 at 12:51 pm |
  3. Vic

    This article is a great perspective.

    Since the creation of man, man is full of iniquity, that is the desire to sin (I never claim to know why.) Then, sin took place by the Immortal First Family who consequently were reduced/transfigured to mortal beings, kicked out of heaven, and curse was put on the earth till the end of time. Ever since, sin became inherent in mankind, life trials have been the norm, and God put man to the test to redeem himself. Throughout the human experience, man could never redeem himself on his own, as if God intended to show man that he needs Him. God is so merciful that after he showed man the wrath of death and separation from Him, He always regarded his Faith in Him as redemptive and ultimately gave him the biggest "Welcome Home" party of all, the FREE GIFT Of SALVATION of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Come as you are, just Believe.

    The way I look at it is that we are all humans and of this world in the physical sense; we all feel the same, and indeed are infatuated with matters and things of this world; we all can have fun within reason. We might never understand everything in the Holy Bible and the exact meaning and/or intent of every verse but it is crystal clear that what really matters is that we believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and personal Savior to fully receive the FREE GIFT OF SALVATION. That's how we are set apart from the world. when we believe, it doesn't matter after that if we understood every bit of the Bible and why it is there, we already cut to the chase.

    August 24, 2013 at 12:00 pm |
    • No, no, no! You've gotten it all wrong!

      Mighty Cthulu will rise from the depths and the Old Ones will reclaim and make waste of this Earth!

      Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

      August 24, 2013 at 12:09 pm |
    • Catherine Townsend

      If you are under the delusion that humans are created, you've not a chance of understanding the world or life.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
    • OTOH

      "FREE GIFT" = poor language use.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:29 pm |
  4. Reality

    The Prodigal Son, Luke 15: 11-32. Did Jesus actually utter said pa-ssage? Most contemporary NT scholars say he did but it only appears in one gospel making it historically questionable.

    And for new members of this blog, there is the following a-nalysis:

    Jesus was a bit "touched". After all he thought he spoke to Satan, thought he changed water into wine, thought he raised Lazarus from the dead etc. In today's world, said Jesus would be declared legally insane.

    Or did P, M, M, L and J simply make him into a first century magic-man via their epistles and gospels of semi-fiction? Many contemporary NT experts after thorough analyses of all the scriptures go with the latter magic-man conclusion with J's gospel being mostly fiction.

    Obviously, today's followers of Paul et al's "magic-man" are also a bit on the odd side believing in all the Christian mumbo jumbo about bodies resurrecting, and exorcisms, and miracles, and "magic-man atonement, and infallible, old, European/Utah/Argentine white men, and 24/7 body/blood sacrifices followed by consumption of said sacrifices. Yummy!!!!

    So why do we really care what a first century CE, illiterate, long-dead, preacher/magic man would do or say?

    And when the last Christian church closes along with the other worthless houses of "worship", there will be party that will last until the Sun consumes us in three billion years.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:59 am |
    • Reality

      Actually, JC's family and friends had it right 2000 years ago ( Mark 3: 21 "And when his friends heard of it, they went out to lay hold on him: for they said, He is beside himself.")

      Said passage is one of the few judged to be authentic by most contemporary NT scholars. e.g. See Professor Ludemann's conclusion in his book, Jesus After 2000 Years, p. 24 and p. 694.

      For the professor's thorough a-nalysis of Luke 15: 11-32, pp. 364-365. He concluded that the parable is historic.

      The parable is similar to the one found in Buddhist literature (~100 BCE )
      which predates Luke's gospel and said passage (80-120 CE.)

      http://www.faithfutures.org/JDB/jdb465.html

      (Saddharma Pundarika Sutra 4)

      August 24, 2013 at 12:27 pm |
  5. John P. Tarver

    Atheists are crashing my browser here, time to move on.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:58 am |
    • bostontola

      troll

      August 24, 2013 at 11:59 am |
    • pothead

      By sweetie

      August 24, 2013 at 12:17 pm |
    • Doobs

      "Atheists are crashing my browser"

      That's a new one.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:18 pm |
  6. bostontola

    I find many religious people on this blog have a hard time distinguishing matters of fact and matters of opinion. I said science, art, music, are all man made creations, they have that in common with all religions, all man made. That is a fact. Then people criticized that by saying some of man's creations are bad. Which are bad vs good are often opinion (forms of government, etc.). This lack of ability to distinguish fact and opinion causes silly argument. As Daniel Moynihan said, everyone is enti.tled to their own opinion, no one is enti.tled to their own facts.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:56 am |
    • Thomas

      Are you saying that secular people have no problem distinguishing fact from opinion? Because that's a hot one.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:58 am |
      • bostontola

        Where did I say that?

        August 24, 2013 at 12:00 pm |
      • No, but it IS true that...

        ...no deluded religious idiot can, and that is a guaranteed.

        August 24, 2013 at 12:12 pm |
  7. Apple Bush

    When I was in college, I can assure you that the imaginary beings were NOT boring.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:56 am |
  8. Apple Bush

    The Christian Drive-By Posters are out in full force. They never back up their posts with facts or even a reply.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:55 am |
  9. MagicPanties

    Belief in imaginary beings doesn't have to be boring.

    My invisible pink unicorn just loves to party, and golly gee, don't get me started on those rascally leprechauns!

    August 24, 2013 at 11:52 am |
    • truthprevails1

      Don't forget to invite the hobbits and Pegasus and perhaps Harry Potter.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:56 am |
      • Luke

        Yeah. What was that about respect?

        August 24, 2013 at 12:14 pm |
        • truthprevails1

          Apparently you don't understand the slightest bit of humor either.

          August 24, 2013 at 2:01 pm |
  10. nerdy_christian_13

    It's funny finding this; I just finished Max Lucado's book about Grace, and he talks about this. And not all Christians are boring. Work hard, play hard evangelical churches can't be described as boring.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:52 am |
    • MagicPanties

      Work hard, play hard evangelical churches are boring.

      Sorry, couldn't resist.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:54 am |
    • No, but it IS true that...

      ALL religious people are deluded.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:13 pm |
  11. Vic

    Did you know that one of the origins of Rock n Roll is "Gospel Music," and that many Rock Stars are Christians?!

    August 24, 2013 at 11:50 am |
    • MagicPanties

      Did you know that people used to believe the earth is flat, and that many ignorant christians believe dinosaurs were around just 6000 years ago?

      August 24, 2013 at 11:56 am |
    • No, but it IS true that...

      quite a few rock stars are drug abusers with some pretty major mental and emotional problems.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:15 pm |
    • OTOH

      Vic,

      Did you know that the origins of "Gospel Music" lie in the slave culture?

      August 24, 2013 at 12:26 pm |
    • Doobs

      Yes, I do. What's your point, Vic?

      August 24, 2013 at 12:44 pm |
  12. Ethan the Evangelical

    Parties? No not for me. I don't smoke drink or chew or go with girls that do.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:42 am |
    • Apple Bush

      Or go with anyone.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:43 am |
      • Ethan the Evangelical

        Which is why my church wants to ship me to a third world country as a missionary. I'm expendable.

        August 24, 2013 at 11:47 am |
      • John P. Tarver

        There are lots of dysfunctional single women among the evangelicals apple. Once the sin you promise as fun turns to burning pain and they find a place with the evangelicals.

        August 24, 2013 at 11:58 am |
        • Doobs

          I suggest you see a physician for that "burning pain", JPT. A good dose of antibiotics should clear it up.

          August 24, 2013 at 12:46 pm |
  13. kdwysocki

    At MorningStar church in Yakima Washington, you'll be welcomed as that prodigal son, with a loud HELLO!

    August 24, 2013 at 11:41 am |
  14. elizabeth

    lovely.
    i am a christian. sometimes it is boring. sometimes there is peace in the boring. there's always peace in knowing there will be a party.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:37 am |
    • John P. Tarver

      Jesus partied so much they called him a wine bibber and a glutton.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:43 am |
      • Doobs

        Sounds about right, considering how many obese, drunken Christians prowl the aisles of WalMart after Sunday services, praying that Colt 45 is on sale this week.

        August 24, 2013 at 2:33 pm |
    • lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

      Hickory, dickory, mockory
      The mouse went up the clockory

      Jer 8:11 For they have healed the hurt of the daughter of my people slightly, saying, Peace, peace; when [there is] no peace.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:45 am |
      • Doobs

        The clockery struck one,
        And lol?? was done,
        "Cause his god smashed his head with some crockery.

        August 24, 2013 at 9:43 pm |
  15. GAW

    Somehow I think that the author of this piece means party in a different way that I know most parties to be. Most of the Christian parties I went to long ago were boring.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:37 am |
    • James

      I agree with you having experienced the same "parties" when I was younger. Just lame. Christianity is desperate to bring more people into the church, so they brought in coffee, younger light rock "band style" worship, new bibles that dumb down the english language, and preachers that try to act young and cool and dress casual. All these things to try and draw more people in. REMEMBER FOLKS, churches are BUSINESSES and they WANT your MONEY!
      Many of them will do whatever it takes to bring more people in and make you feel comfortable in order to get more $$$.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:54 am |
      • Doobs

        When I was in secondary school, my parish went through the "let's pretend Jesus was a cool, long haired hippie" phase. They changed up the music and started letting women wear pants in church. How radical!

        For some reason, they picked CSN&Y's "Teach Your Children" as one of the songs to sing at the "guitar mass".

        A couple of my friends and I talked them into singing "Wooden Ships" as well. They assumed that these were religious songs and didn't catch on until we suggested "Ohio".

        We did the same thing with movie day at my parochial school. The nuns finally figured out what we were doing when we had a showing of "I Love You, Alice B. Toklas". Boy, were they pissed.

        Good times.

        August 24, 2013 at 2:59 pm |
  16. Luke

    If the Godless really believed in free will and freedom, they would leave religious people alone.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:36 am |
    • truthprevails1

      We'll have reason to leave you alone when you stop trying to impose your belief on the real world. Stop telling people what they can and can't do with their bodies; stop telling people who they can and can't love; stop telling people that if they don't share your imaginary friend they will suffer.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:43 am |
      • lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

        Oh, ooooohhhh, the STOP POWICE!

        August 24, 2013 at 11:48 am |
      • Luke

        You've confused real Christian faith with some cheap imitation. We don't tell the world anything. We teach ourselves how to be united to Christ for our salvation. We don't tell you what to do or not to do. Do whatever you want, but you need to leave us alone to do what we want at the same time. Otherwise you're just a hypocritical hater. But you say you're against hate and hypocrisy...so abide by your own beliefs.

        August 24, 2013 at 11:51 am |
        • truthprevails1

          Oh how you need to grow up, take a step back and look at your belief system. When you step in the way of a woman having an abortion or using birth control or you tell LGBT they are wrong; you are imposing your beliefs on people...when that stops we will have no reason to speak against you. I have many christian friends who are no as hateful or bigoted as some of the christians on this board. I don't hate anything, I just have a low tolerance for people who demand respect but yet fail to give it.

          August 24, 2013 at 11:54 am |
        • Luke

          >>Oh how you need to grow up, take a step back and look at your belief system.<>When you step in the way of a woman having an abortion or using birth control<> or you tell LGBT they are wrong;<>you are imposing your beliefs on people<>when that stops we will have no reason to speak against you<> I have many christian friends who are no as hateful or bigoted as some of the christians on this board<>I don't hate anything<>I just have a low tolerance for people who demand respect but yet fail to give it.<<

          Christians don't care about the respect of anyone but Christ. We forgive you even when you attack us. But if you really believe what you say, you will honor our freedom to believe and teach what our God demands of us.

          August 24, 2013 at 12:04 pm |
        • Luke

          >>Oh how you need to grow up, take a step back and look at your belief system.

          So you know my belief system better than I. I don't believe you.

          >>When you step in the way of a woman having an abortion or using birth control

          No, do whatever you want. Be as evil as you want to be. God created you with free will.

          >> or you tell LGBT they are wrong;

          You didn't read my post very well. I said that we don't tell unbelievers outside Christ's church what to do. If you don't like what we teach our own people, that's a judgmentalism that you should keep amongst yourselves. Don't judge us by telling us what we can believe.

          >>you are imposing your beliefs on people

          Nonsense, as I just demonstrated. You're trying to impose your beliefs on us. Stop it. Don't tell us what to believe. It's not your place to do so.

          >>when that stops we will have no reason to speak against you

          You're a hypocrite if you tell us not to teach what our God commands *us*, while telling us what you want us to believe.

          >> I have many christian friends who are no as hateful or bigoted as some of the christians on this board

          So do I. That's beside the point. Not everyone who calls himself a Christian is a Christian, and no Christian is without sin. We are flawed human beings just like you are.

          >>I don't hate anything

          Nor do I or does any true Christian.

          >>I just have a low tolerance for people who demand respect but yet fail to give it.

          Christians don't care about the respect of anyone but Christ. We forgive you even when you attack us. But if you really believe what you say, you will honor our freedom to believe and teach what our God demands of us.

          August 24, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
        • James

          As a christian YOU"RE Supposed to witness to us all and save us from hell and unbelief! What kind of cheap imitation christianity are you following if you don't get into our faces with your witnessing?

          August 24, 2013 at 12:09 pm |
        • Maani

          James: You misunderstand what it means to "witness, and what that actually entails. Cheristians are taught to "spread the gospel" (which simply means "good news"; i.e., Jesus' ministry). We are NOT taught to castigate, condemn or judge others. (Indeed, this is absolutely proscribed by Jesus.) As well, we are NOT taught to "ram it down anyone's throat." Rather, we are taught to simply "spread the gospel," and if someone does not want to hear it, we are taught to simply walk away, with no judgment or condemnation.

          THAT is what Jesus actually taught. That so many Christians do not follow Jesus' instructions in this regard, and use the Scripture as a cudgel to beat people over the head and judge them, is obviously sad and, yes, hypocritical. But as I noted above, please refrain from painting with the broadest brush possible when you address Christians. Many of us do NOT subscribe to the so-called Christian Right and other unhumble, unforgiving and unloving "Christians."

          August 25, 2013 at 2:11 pm |
        • Richard Cranium

          manni
          Have you signed any of the pet!tions to remove the lie "In god we trust" from our money, or to return the pledge of allegience back to we the people, and remove the unconst!tutionally added "under god" phrase?
          Have you pet!tioned to remove references to god in out courthouses and other "we the people" owned establishments?

          Until you do these things, you are just as guilty of forcing your beliefs on others as the christians that put those things in place.

          August 25, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
      • Maani

        And many Christians would be more likely to engage you if you stopped painting with the broadest brush possible, and accepted that not every single Christian – or arguably even the majority of Christians – are engaged in what you claim.

        August 25, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
        • Johnny

          If someone claims to be a Christian I just assume the worst until they prove otherwise.

          August 26, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
        • Maani

          That would only be fair if you also assume the worst about EVERYONE. Which, of course, would be a sad thing.

          August 27, 2013 at 1:52 pm |
    • Richard Moore

      Comparatively, we do leave you religious folk alone. When was the the time an atheist rang your doorbell on Saturday morning to tell you about the joyful existence possible without the burden of belief in invisible men in the sky?

      You know what? Scratch that, I know what I'm doing next weekend.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:44 am |
      • John P. Tarver

        Atheists suppress science in education and teach our children racism; how is that leaving us alone?

        August 24, 2013 at 11:46 am |
        • truthprevails1

          Wow, you're just a tad bit crazy. Your bible teaches children about racism when it supports slavery. As for suppressing science, you are wrong. It is not the Atheists who pray for a child or loved one to be healed, we do the right thing and get them medical attention.

          August 24, 2013 at 11:49 am |
        • lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

          Right TP, you are perfect, a perfect liar.

          August 24, 2013 at 11:52 am |
        • Richard Moore

          Do you know how I know you're a Christian? By the way you keep saying the same thing over and over again expecting me to believe you or care.

          Fact is, Christians have been in the majority in politics in this country since it's inception so if the small minority of atheists are still subverting "the truth," as I'm sure you call it, either atheist's lack of beliefs make them super men or god has abandoned you.

          Either way, give yourself a good bump, your needle is stuck in a groove and it's frankly quite annoying.

          August 24, 2013 at 11:53 am |
      • lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

        A doorbell ain't nuthin' like the clods that hang out on the belief blog pushin' their mobsterism.

        August 24, 2013 at 11:50 am |
      • Luke

        >>Comparatively, we do leave you religious folk alone.<<

        Count me a skeptic. You're here on a so-called BELIEF Blog, to argue with believers. Why is that? Is that leaving us alone? Let's be serious.

        August 24, 2013 at 11:54 am |
        • Richard Moore

          Because this belief blog is on a NEWS site. I could give two excremental piles as to what you do, but I want religion out of politics and news, period.

          So maybe the more we flood this BS blog with arguments, the more likely they won't waste the space on a site that is supposed to report FACT.

          August 24, 2013 at 11:58 am |
        • Doobs

          As has been pointed out many times, a belief is not a fact. Until you stop peddling your personal beliefs as facts that everyone must accept as their own, you'll get pushback.

          I have many beliefs, but a big psycho killer in the sky isn't one of them.

          August 24, 2013 at 1:03 pm |
    • John P. Tarver

      The spirit of Jezebel will always be with the congregation.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:45 am |
      • Doobs

        Sounds more like the spirit of Jack Daniels.

        August 24, 2013 at 12:47 pm |
    • bostontola

      Freedom isn't something to be believed, it must be fought for. Those in power (e.g. Church leaders) want to take your freedom.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:45 am |
      • lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

        What's the punch line??

        August 24, 2013 at 11:51 am |
        • bostontola

          Read the OP.

          August 24, 2013 at 11:58 am |
    • LinCA

      @Luke

      You said, "If the Godless really believed in free will and freedom, they would leave religious people alone."
      It is a desire for freedom that compels me to fight believers. You are free to believe whatever nonsense you want. You are free to believe you have an imaginary friend. You are not free to expect me to fall for that bullshit, too.

      If believers kept their nonsense to themselves, they wouldn't hear from me. If they kept their delusion out of the public view, and out of politics, there would be no reason for me to point out how infantile their beliefs are.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:55 am |
    • James

      Yeah, but the problem is, many religious folks won't and haven't left us alone. We've been told we're going to hell for simply not believing and accepting a fairy tale story, preached at, lied to, and all these things combined over the years can almost be described as abusive, and sometimes religion has been literally abusive. Christianity, Muslim, Islam, Mormons, JW's, Catholics, etc...need to understand that they've been suckered into a great lie and need to stop pushing their "faiths" onto others.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:01 pm |
  17. johnp

    Actually Christianity is about New Beginnings out our failures. That is why Jesus came the way He did, to redeem us back to God. The bible tells us that every time one comes to a faith in Jesus there is a party that goes on in heaven. As one sees their sin and failures before God and confesses them to God, putting their faith in the completed work of Jesus on the cross. God puts His Spirit into them and they become a new creation! All the old things of your life are gone and a new life in Christ begins. New beginning, and a celebration in heaven to commemorate the new beginning.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:36 am |
    • sam stone

      What makes you believe man is sinful and in need of redemption other than a book written, translated and edited by men?

      August 24, 2013 at 11:46 am |
      • johnp

        Because when I finally came to the end of myself and confessed my sin of pride to God, the following morning I felt as a new creation in Christ, forgiven and new! That has not left me, but all the old crap I had in my life has and I do not miss it. Only God could do that!

        August 24, 2013 at 12:07 pm |
        • Doobs

          That has not left me, but all the old crap I had in my life has and I do not miss it. Only God could do that!

          What a coincidence. I had the same feeling the day I became an atheist. Only reason could do that!

          August 24, 2013 at 12:53 pm |
      • Maani

        "What makes you believe man is sinful and in need of redemption?" Have you looked around lately? (Or indeed, throughout mankind's history?) Perhaps we are simply arguing semantics here. What you may call warlike, aggressive, violent, sociopathic, spiteful, mean, etc., we call "sin." Sin is anything that is unholy in God's sight. (And before you get there, yes, God Himself engaged in some of these things in the OT; but Jesus came to "fulfil the law" and, in doing so, the "old things" passed away. Besides, God has a right to do anything He wants, since He created everything. And since He created US, He had every right to do things that he proscribed us from doing.)

        So "sin" may simply be a word you reject in favor of what Christians would be as euphemisms for sin.

        August 25, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
        • G to the T

          Please don't take this the wrong way Maani, but I think you have a naive interpretation of "sin". Sin literally means "to miss the mark". All it refers to is not obeying the law of god. So if god says "go to war" – war is no longer a sin. In Christianity, morality is considered objective (as it comes from an "objective outside source") but if what is a "sin" can change, than it is subjective either way (as we are dealing with the "whim" of a higher being, not some objective truth).

          August 26, 2013 at 1:03 pm |
        • Maani

          You are half-right, but seem not to apply the correctness of that half to the other half. Sin can only change if GOD Himself determines it has changed. Thus, it REMAINS "objective." It was Jesus – who is God – who "changed" the determination of what is "sin," primarily in Matthew 5-7, but also elsewhere. So "sin" is STILL "missing the mark," but the new mark has been given by Jesus, who is God, is thus remains objective. There is no contradiction here.

          August 27, 2013 at 2:01 pm |
    • James

      And unfortunately, all this faith in Christ and belief in him and the bible only happens as thoughts in your mind. Christ doesn't even care to speak to you, write to you (as I'm doing), or appear to you, he just wants you to accept a contradictory collection of books we named "bible" as your all in one go to source for faith? Sounds very fishy to me.

      August 24, 2013 at 12:06 pm |
  18. JimK57

    Good article.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:36 am |
  19. lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

    These copykitty Wegodians sure are boring.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:35 am |
  20. They are all a little nuts

    Has anyone here ever listened to choirs singing for 24 hours straight? Just think of it, angels singing songs of joy for the first 24 hours you're in heaven... and then another 24 hours.. and then another 24 hours.. and they just keep singing... another 24 hours... another 24 hours... OMG... can someone please shut the angels singing up??? Talk about a real hell.

    August 24, 2013 at 11:32 am |
    • lol?? Pithiest, YES!!

      What?? Me Worry?? Hell gets tossed into the lake, too. It's just like bein' in the county. Lifers prefer the Big House, more sociopathic freedom.

      August 24, 2013 at 11:37 am |
    • John Blackadder

      Given that we are New Age, they'll be singing the Barney the Purple Dinosaur Song too. Oh wait. they are doing that at Guantanamo already!

      August 24, 2013 at 11:40 am |
    • Doobs

      It's like riding the "It's a Small World" at Disney.

      August 25, 2013 at 12:54 am |
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