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September 17th, 2013
08:40 AM ET

Rick Warren opens up about son's suicide in exclusive interview


By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Lake Forest, California (CNN) - Rick and Kay Warren stood outside their son's home, sobbing in each other's arms.

They knew.

They had talked Matthew, 27, off the ledge many times. But not this time.

A nod from a police officer who inspected Matthew's house confirmed their worst fears.

“I just hit the ground,” Kay Warren said.

On April 5, Matthew Warren killed himself with a gun after a lifelong battle with mental illness.

“The day that I had feared might happen one day, since he had been born, and the day that I had prayed would never happen … happened,” Rick Warren told CNN's Piers Morgan in an exclusive interview.

For the first time since Matthew Warren's death on April 5, Rick and Kay Warren are speaking out about his troubled life, how the tragedy changed their faith and their new mission to draw attention to mental illness.

The full interview aired Tuesday night on CNN’s "Piers Morgan Live" at 9 pm ET.

In 1980, Rick and Kay Warren founded Saddleback Church,  now one of the largest in America, in Orange County, California. Twelve years later, Warren published "The Purpose Driven Life," a runaway best-seller that catapulted the pastor into stardom.

At the same time, though, their son Matthew Warren struggled with borderline personality disorder and deep depression for much of his life, the Warrens told CNN.

He had a loving family and access to mental health care, but not even that could spare him, they said.

Matthew was a young man with a "tender heart and tortured mind," Rick Warren said.

“If love could have kept my child alive, he'd be alive today, because he was incredibly loved,” he added.

The Warrens also spoke during the interview about how their son's death has affected their Christian faith.

GALLERY: Rick Warren over the years

“I never questioned my faith in God; I questioned God’s plan,” Rick Warren said. “God isn’t to blame for my son’s death. My son took his life. It was his choice.”

Slightly more than half of Americans - 53% - think that churches should do more to prevent suicide in America, according to a new poll by LifeWay Research, a Christian company based in Nashville.

Evangelicals and other Americans appear to disagree, however, about using religion to overcome mental illness, according to the LifeWay poll, which surveyed some 1,000 Americans and was released on Monday.

Nearly half of evangelicals, 48%, say that people with serious mental illnesses like depression, bipolar disorder and schizophrenia can be cured by Bible study and prayer alone. Sixty percent of Americans overall disagree.

The Warrens want to spread the word that even though their story had a tragic ending, “there’s hope,” Kay Warren said during the interview with CNN.

“It’s so important that people know, no matter how desperate their despair, there is hope, and not to give up.”

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Belief • Christianity • Death

soundoff (1,210 Responses)
  1. woodie

    It is very sad to lose a son like that. I lost mine like that too.

    September 17, 2013 at 7:52 pm |
  2. Burningguitar

    Dear AtheistFOREVER, I did what you asked. In googling "Matthew Warren gay" I found the following quotes: "Speculating," "Was he gay," "I'd bet money that Matthew was gay," "What are the odds he was gay," "Bet Rick Warren's son Matthew was gay." So you're dead on, there's indisputable proof that he was and that his father drove him to suicide... Not. And by the way, I live in L.A. and it's nowhere near to common knowledge. As you keep attacking the church at large using terms like "fear, guilt, ignorance, control" to describe the church, you should dig up one that actually bases its actions on freedom, love and wisdom and peek in on a Sunday morning. There are tons of them all around America. You might be surprised. 🙂

    September 17, 2013 at 7:45 pm |
    • QS

      "...dig up one that actually bases its actions on freedom, love and wisdom..."

      ....as long as you believe what they tell you.

      There is no religion or church that is wholly and completely altruistic or benevolent – there is always, always, an ulterior motive.

      September 17, 2013 at 7:50 pm |
      • Burningguitar

        Hi QS, we do plenty of stuff without expecting you to believe what we do. In the end, that's between you and God. Believers are called to share about their beliefs, but I for one am not going to try to force you into anything you wouldn't subscribe to. That's not loving. All the best!

        September 17, 2013 at 7:57 pm |
        • QS

          The concept of "spreading the word" is the basis for all that is wrong with religion.

          If your beliefs dictate to you that you must go around and try to "convert" people to your way of thinking in order to "save" them, then your beliefs are inherently starting you off from a foundation of immediately looking down on others and seeing them as things that need to be fixed rather than as fellow humans.

          Religion is specifically designed to start people off in life with little regard for diversity and far too much paranoia and sus.picion of others to be truly considered anything close to resembling altruism.

          Great if your beliefs don't lead you to vote against the rights of others. But beyond me being gay I'm also an Atheist, and when religious people make blanket statements like "that is between you and god" I only see self-righteousness.

          September 17, 2013 at 8:07 pm |
    • AE

      but... but... he said EVERYONE in California knew he was gay. Isn't that a credible source?

      September 17, 2013 at 7:51 pm |
      • In Santa we trust

        Yet when you say god is real you expect to be accepted as a credible source even though there is no evidence for what you say.

        September 17, 2013 at 9:38 pm |
        • AE

          I have evidence. Look within.

          God is real.

          September 17, 2013 at 9:51 pm |
        • In Santa we trust

          So provide the evidence. "You have to believe to believe" is pretty unconvincing.

          September 17, 2013 at 9:53 pm |
        • Austin

          You won't get answers from a slippery hypocrite like AE.

          September 17, 2013 at 10:00 pm |
        • AE

          You have some guy posting rumors and speculation about a suicide victim, and you are upset at me for believing in God???

          September 17, 2013 at 10:25 pm |
        • Athy

          More like puzzled than upset.

          September 17, 2013 at 10:35 pm |
        • AE

          Are you changing names or posting for other people now?

          September 17, 2013 at 10:47 pm |
  3. Amy

    Please, let's not give this grifter a platform. The death of his son will ultimately boil down to future hefty royalty checks. He's mourning all the way to the bank.

    September 17, 2013 at 7:41 pm |
    • ronny12223

      I wonder if anyone who has ever lost a child would agree with you. Doubt it. All the royalty checks in the world won't make up for that one. GIve the guy a break....he lost his son.

      September 17, 2013 at 7:56 pm |
  4. draeggo

    I can see that hate is alive and doing well in these comments. Using hate to call out others is the product of an uneducated mind.

    September 17, 2013 at 7:32 pm |
  5. JD

    If he was my old man I would have killed myself too

    September 17, 2013 at 7:32 pm |
    • Interesting

      How would you feel if it was YOUR son whom you loved who killed himself? And then if you heard someone say, "Well if JD was my dad, I've had killed myself, too."

      September 17, 2013 at 7:52 pm |
    • disguy

      If JD were my dad I'd surely kill myself. What a terrible dad JD is/would be.

      September 17, 2013 at 8:01 pm |
  6. inano

    I'm sorry but any story that begins "we had talked him off the ledge many times...." begs the questions ( 1 ). What did you expect ? and ( 2 ). Could not the need for a bit more supervision been anticipated ?

    September 17, 2013 at 7:30 pm |
    • MoodyMoody

      Inano, Matthew Warren was certainly mentally ill, but he was also an adult. It is very difficult to get an adult committed to a mental hospital, both because the criteria are so subjective ("must be a credible danger to himself or others") and because there is so much demand and so little supply for these services. Even though the Warrens could afford to pay even if insurance didn't cover Matthew, there may not have been an appropriate bed available. It's a horrible situation in the USA.

      September 17, 2013 at 8:34 pm |
  7. Atheist FOREVER

    No matter how hard one tries, you just can't "pray the gay away". Gayness isn't an evil cloud that hovers over you, that can be removed by talking to invisible spirits, and it isn't caused by an invisible red horned devil guy in an invisible fire pit. Some people are simply born gay, and a REAL father would have accepted him for what he was.

    September 17, 2013 at 7:22 pm |
    • Amy

      Where in the article does it say that the son was gay?

      September 17, 2013 at 7:46 pm |
    • disguy

      Or maybe we should give credit to the kid for killing himself. He chose to end his own life. He was 27, he could choose to seek professional help if he wanted to. He made the choice, and now everyone else who loved him has to suffer the consequences. Who cares who his dad was. A 27 year old man can make decisions for themselves. Daddy is not responsible no matter how much you cry.

      September 17, 2013 at 8:05 pm |
  8. rblock7

    How sad, to use a horrible tragedy to sell some more GOD to people, because GOD has a plan and it somehow included a young man taking his own life to make that plan happen and if you believe long enough and hard enough anything is possible.
    Horse pucky

    September 17, 2013 at 7:20 pm |
    • Atheist FOREVER

      If prayer "fixed" anything, we would be living in paradise by now.

      September 17, 2013 at 7:23 pm |
  9. Dan

    God bless the Warrens. All of them. Even Christians aren't inoculated from calamity and especially not persecution. Something non believers seem to think isn't true.

    September 17, 2013 at 7:08 pm |
    • carboncow

      You have to be kidding me...we know you theists are full of calamity and persecution because of your silly beliefs...get over yourself and your religion!

      September 17, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
    • QS

      LMAO

      The religious person's notion of being persecuted – "How dare you not only disbelieve what I tell you to believe, but you also insult those beliefs I demand that you adopt!"

      LMFAO!

      September 17, 2013 at 7:20 pm |
    • I've changed

      So,bad things Do happen to self-rightous people.We know that.Bad things happen to all people...regardless of whether you consider yourself morally superior,or not.

      September 17, 2013 at 7:23 pm |
    • marc

      Oh poor group that slayed millions of innocent people throughout your groups history..ie crusades crusifictions etc ... did someone come down harshly upon you in an online forum..poor christians..I understand your plight..well at least you can still be delusional and judge others...define marriage even though marriage outdates religion..etc

      September 17, 2013 at 7:48 pm |
    • sam stone

      Yeah, dan, wtth an overwhelming majority of christians in the country, and pretty much everyone in the top echelon of government, christians are sooooo persecuted. You are practically like jeebus

      September 17, 2013 at 7:58 pm |
  10. fknigr's

    Fukda fukoff

    September 17, 2013 at 7:00 pm |
  11. boredofceleb

    Wait a minute.....did the son actually acknowledge being gay and the Warrens shamed him into this?? Where does it factually state he was gay or is that an assumption on the part of people wanting to blame the parents? I wouldn't want to place that kind of blame on anyone.......let alone based on an assumption.

    September 17, 2013 at 6:59 pm |
    • Atheist FOREVER

      Common knowledge in California. The internet is your friend. Don't expect it to be mentioned here.

      September 17, 2013 at 7:01 pm |
      • boredofceleb

        Why shouldn't I expect it to be mentioned here? What's so shameful? This is CNN, not FOX news.

        September 17, 2013 at 7:19 pm |
        • Atheist FOREVER

          I think a lot of people are scared to call a spade a spade here. This guy owns part of this, for the guilt his stupid mythology laid at the feet of this kid, who was struggling to justify his own feelings against a guilt-laden belief system where gay people are to burn in a fire pit for eternity.

          September 17, 2013 at 7:20 pm |
        • AE

          When I search the internet, all signs point to this being a rumor.

          Can you provide your source for this information?

          September 17, 2013 at 7:34 pm |
        • boredofceleb

          @Atheist: LOL!! People HERE afraid to call a spade a spade? Just reading these comments proves how ludicrous that statement is! Noone here is afraid to speak their mind.

          September 17, 2013 at 7:40 pm |
        • Atheist FOREVER

          CNN is responsible for the article, not the posters.

          September 17, 2013 at 7:43 pm |
        • AE

          I can't find any credible news source that supports he was gay.

          And not even gay activist sites.

          Just speculation and rumors, like you post.

          September 17, 2013 at 7:54 pm |
        • boredofceleb

          @Atheist: If CNN had proof positive that Matthew was gay, I have no doubt they would not hesitate to include it in the article. What is so shameful about that? I have seen many articles on gays and other controversial topics on CNN. So until you can come up with some proof, we will "assume" he was not. Why sling mud on the parents as their son's killer based on a RUMOR? That's really pretty low.

          September 17, 2013 at 8:13 pm |
  12. fknigr's

    Fukdafukoff

    September 17, 2013 at 6:59 pm |
  13. BetteraThanThat

    He killed his son with his negligence...

    September 17, 2013 at 6:56 pm |
    • Atheist FOREVER

      I'll go further and say the guilt that he instilled in his son by telling him to "pray the gay away" probably played a direct role in the death. Imagine being gay and the son of this guy. What torture that must have been for the kid when he was young.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
      • gossip girl

        Shut the f up and stop spreading your sickness all over this board. Get some help.

        September 17, 2013 at 6:59 pm |
        • .

          Gossip sucks...so I guess you should do some research, everyone in CA knows that poor kid was gay. Parents practically shot him themselves with their bigotry

          September 17, 2013 at 7:04 pm |
        • QS

          Here we go again with the superst.itious crowd lecturing others on getting help with their stubborn opposition to religious conformity, when they should have been saying that to Rick and Matthew the whole time!

          September 17, 2013 at 7:05 pm |
        • .

          gossip

          September 17, 2013 at 7:07 pm |
  14. truthsayer

    Rick Warren an agent of the God Wh0re Industry... out to take what he can by spreading lies about an imaginary god.

    September 17, 2013 at 6:54 pm |
  15. Crazy

    Believing in god IS a delusion.. Christian, Jew, Muslim, just diest in generally makes you crazy

    September 17, 2013 at 6:50 pm |
    • boredofceleb

      then the world is full of crazies walking around by that standard.

      September 17, 2013 at 7:01 pm |
    • Atheist FOREVER

      So true.

      September 17, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
    • QS

      I once posted an iReport called "Awash in a sea of lunatics" which was basically about that very sentiment.

      September 17, 2013 at 7:10 pm |
    • crazy

      Don't pay attention to any of the Christian, Jew, Muslim, etc. biologists, geologists, professors, astronauts, doctors, lawyers, athletes, mathematicians, leaders, psychiatrists, chemists, etc. They just crazy!

      September 17, 2013 at 7:13 pm |
      • boredofceleb

        Right now you're not sounding too sane yourself.

        September 17, 2013 at 7:17 pm |
      • Atheist FOREVER

        Please take note of the fact that as science as taken hold in civilized places, religion has been diminished in equal amounts.

        September 17, 2013 at 7:19 pm |
        • fact

          except where it hasn't

          September 17, 2013 at 8:49 pm |
  16. All or Nothing

    The name says it all – many people affected by childhood experiences, spend most of adult life trying to undo. One cannot easily convince most of anything – real or fancied. To praise God, one can give credit where credit is due. To deny God exists is a mute point and has no meaning whatsoever. Each of us will decide and choose. Freedom of choice. Too bad some feel religion is about control – I can't imagine that's what God would intend it to be. If you have searched for God and not found an existence, I feel for you. All who seek will find – if you found nothing, perhaps that is destiny.

    September 17, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
    • Atheist FOREVER

      God is mythology, like all of the other gods that people made up to control others. That's what religion was created for....a way to keep some control over the people. It was used this way for thousands of years, and most wars today are STILL because of religion. Most poverty, disease, starvation, also can be tied to religion.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
      • You're Almost There

        Poverty and starvation can mostly be tied to governments, famine, and just overall poor conditions for harvesting foods. And disease? Wth are you talking about. You HAVE to be a troll to say something that stupid.

        September 17, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
        • Atheist FOREVER

          I'm sorry, but pretty much every single country that is at war and has mass starvation firmly embraces islam. Think about it, and re-evaluate. Tell me a primarily secular country that struggles with constant war, starvation, disease on an epidemic level, etc.

          September 17, 2013 at 6:59 pm |
        • You're Almost There

          You're speculating based on your own preconceived notions, and making irrational arguments based on assertion to tie two events together. These are governments and rebellious groups who operate outside of the interests of everyone else. It is a problem with a few people, not the millions of others.

          September 17, 2013 at 7:05 pm |
        • Atheist FOREVER

          And yet heavily secular countries never have these issues these days do they?

          September 17, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
        • Interesting

          North Korea. You can't get any more secular than they are, and they are starving their people, putting them into camps to be worked to death and can hardly grow a bite of food on their own.

          September 17, 2013 at 7:57 pm |
      • All or Nothing

        I agree with your other statements about personal responsibility. That same responsibility applies to all our choices – even our choice to believe or not believe in God's existence. Rather than saying "God does not exist" would it be more accurate to say "I've searched for God but I did not find anything" or "I searched but found nothing"? Do you think we are born with a longing to believe in God or is that somehow implanted in us? My experience indicates we are born with it. Many of us then go to church of some kind when we're young – and we eventually see the childishness of 'make believe' (some parts of religion perhaps). Does not mean God doesn't exist. Might mean we need to take a good hard look at what God really is and separate the reality of God from the manufactured stuff – religion. And be respectful to what others choose to believe or not believe. I can assure you faith is not wasted time or delusional – but separting the truth from the false is not easy.

        September 17, 2013 at 7:11 pm |
        • Atheist FOREVER

          I don't think anybody is "born thinking about god". It's taught as a means of control, by parents, by the church, and thankfully not anymore, by most governments. Now everyone wants to believe they are immortal and that a "better life awaits" after death, that is human nature. Nobody wants to face the end.

          Remember, the four legs of the stool in religion are:

          Fear
          Guilt
          Ignorance
          Control

          September 17, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
        • AE

          Fear
          Guilt
          Ignorance
          Control

          The Bible teaches those four things have a source, and it is not God.

          September 17, 2013 at 8:15 pm |
      • D

        Actually God gives people free will. It is through the Bible those that choose what God stands for prospered. When those that choose what God abhors and is not represented by attack and try to take away that which God gave, then he punishes those that are an abhorrence. Think of it like your kids. You will love and nurture your children, but let someone come along and hurt your your kids. You will become something you are not to protect them. Thought some of the atheists on here would have figured and researched that by now.

        September 17, 2013 at 7:25 pm |
    • AE

      Thanks, that was well put. I think a lot of people are looking for something that is more like an idol. Not God.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:52 pm |
    • WhenCowsAttack

      "If you found nothing perhaps that's destiny"

      Yeah- I sought with all my heart and found nothing. That's awesome, your God created me just to see me fry. Nice guy.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:59 pm |
      • sam

        Someone's gotta take the role of eternal fuel to keep the ovens going, I suppose.

        September 17, 2013 at 7:06 pm |
    • wilypagan

      Learn the difference between "mute" and "moot" and maybe someone will care what you have to say.

      September 17, 2013 at 7:00 pm |
    • truthsayer

      the premise of your comment is all about control. You believe in coercion "Too bad some feel religion is about control – I can't imagine that's what God would intend it to be. If you have searched for God and not found an existence, I feel for you." You feel for those that cannot locate this god that you imagine and his imagined intentions? What sources do you have to know what a god thinks...you have nothing but your imagination and hope for a sky daddy that loves you.
      The heavens are empty.

      September 17, 2013 at 7:02 pm |
  17. truthsayer

    Rick Warren is a charlatan....he is wicked and without substance

    September 17, 2013 at 6:45 pm |
    • Atheist FOREVER

      And by laying guilt at the feet of his gay son with his stupid mythology, he probably contributed to the untimely death of a young confused man struggling with his gayness. They probably spent countless hours telling him to "pray the gay away", and other such nonsense. Making him feel as guilty as possible, telling him that he would burn in hell if he didn't reject "the devil" and other such GARBAGE!

      Rick Warren owns some of this, and I'm not letting him off the hook when his book of fear and guilt played a role.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
      • boredofceleb

        Where does it say his son was gay? I must have missed that part.

        September 17, 2013 at 6:50 pm |
        • Atheist FOREVER

          "Struggled with mental illness" = christian code words for – gay. Wake up. Of course he isn't going to EVER admit that his son was gay, which would mean that the devil basically possessed him in their twisted minds. Everyone in California knew it, but they won't dare mention it here. Internet searches are your friend. Look it up.

          September 17, 2013 at 6:54 pm |
        • AE

          http://gayconservative.org/tag/matthew-warren/

          September 17, 2013 at 7:00 pm |
  18. Believe in God

    Whether you believe in Rick Warren or not one thing needs to be remembered. He lost his son. Whether you believe in God or not, he still lost his son. Even if you agree or disagree with his principles, HE STILL LOST HIS SON!

    September 17, 2013 at 6:42 pm |
    • sam

      I agree. However, I doubt the best way for his family to recover is to do TV interviews.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:45 pm |
      • AE

        6 months after the death.

        September 17, 2013 at 6:47 pm |
        • sam

          Yeah, no, AE. There's no reason for them to be on TV talking about it unless they're doing a charity telethon for suicide awareness.

          It's Piers Morgan. Get real.

          Dude likes attention and likes being in the spotlight. He's capitalizing on his own tragedy because he doesn't know how else to deal. This is how delusional con men work.

          September 17, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
        • AE

          Ok, if you say so. I've never watched Piers Morgan. Hopefully he changes his mind and decides to do a telethon instead.

          September 17, 2013 at 7:15 pm |
      • Believe in God

        Too many people think mental illness should be hidden. Talking about it and bringing to the nations attention is more that needed. If Rick and Kay Warren can do that thru their celebrity, more power to them. Just because they are "famous" does not mean that they aren't prone to issues that many of us face.

        September 17, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
      • a believer

        Dear Sam,

        Please read this–it may give some perspective. Blessings.

        http://www.bigtruth.net/2013/09/17/the-conversion-of-c-s-lewis/

        I hope you find it helpful.
        –WI

        September 17, 2013 at 6:49 pm |
        • sam

          Seriously?

          September 17, 2013 at 6:58 pm |
    • Atheist FOREVER

      He is the one going to freaking CNN to tell the world about it! So he just opened himself to the criticism that follows, so I don't want to hear that BS!

      That said, I also feel it's important to point out that HIM and his STUPID RELIGION, and all of the threats and guilt that come with it, no doubt played a very significant role in the untimely death of a son who was told that he needed to "pray the gay away".

      September 17, 2013 at 6:50 pm |
      • AE

        How do you know his son was gay?

        Everything I've said regarding the subject only points to speculation and rumors.

        And now you are imagining quotes you think the dad said to his son?

        You sound just as bad as these religious people you claim to be superior to.

        September 17, 2013 at 6:56 pm |
        • .

          (Google is your friend – the locals around that church and that know the family know what was really going on)

          September 17, 2013 at 7:03 pm |
        • AE

          Why'd you change your posting name?

          September 17, 2013 at 7:16 pm |
        • boredofceleb

          @AE–I agree on every word you posted. Without proof he was gay, it is just vicious speculation. And what's this nonsense that "struggling with mental illness" = christianspeak for "being gay"?? I know christians who are gay and openly and proudly admit it. We shouldn't be so quick to judge or then it's true - you go off the charts on the other end of the spectrum and actually become like those you so despise with judgmentalism.

          September 17, 2013 at 7:28 pm |
        • AE

          Yes. Agreed. If you read more about this family's struggles, they tried getting help for his mental illness from different areas, like medical. There is nothing to suggest they tried to "pray the gay away".

          September 17, 2013 at 7:38 pm |
    • Rebe

      My youngest son was at "Saddleback Church" last Sunday and told me that CNN was there filiming...Our family lost my middle son to what was considered an accidental suicide on January 7th, 2013. My youngest son was very touched by the sermon.
      He had found his brother dead and has been riddled with guilt and extreme grief !! My youngest was taken there by a friend and really did not know what to expect. When he called me from California I could tell that something positive had just happened by the change in his voice. I want to thank Rick Warren for reaching out and speaking about his son's suicide. It helped my youngest son cope if only for a moment....!!!

      September 17, 2013 at 6:59 pm |
      • QS

        Condolences.

        But I still have to say that a religious sermon is a far cry from actual counseling or therapy.

        September 17, 2013 at 7:16 pm |
        • You're Almost There

          You are horrible.

          September 17, 2013 at 10:55 pm |
      •  

        Godless Vagabond
        Isn't "accidental suicide" sort of oxymoronic?

        September 17, 2013 at 7:19 pm |
  19. The Tennets of Atheism

    1. There is no God.
    2. I hate Him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    September 17, 2013 at 6:36 pm |
    • I've changed

      1;There is no god
      2:Get over it.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:41 pm |
    • You're Almost There

      3. We are so much better than believers.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:41 pm |
    • sam

      Why would someone hate something they don't believe exists? That makes no sense.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:42 pm |
      • AE

        Exactly. Why spend 12 hours a day on a faith and belief blog arguing against a God that logically can't exist.

        September 17, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
        • sam

          Well, it's more a matter of arguing with people who insist their sect is the most correct version of the truth and then say dumb shit like "you'll see, when your time comes!"

          That should pretty much be argued against.

          September 17, 2013 at 6:47 pm |
        • AE

          I have yet to see any article posted on here that states that.

          September 17, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
        • sam

          Uh...is that what you need for proof? Try reading the comments on any article. Unless you're trying to be deliberately obtuse, in which case, have at it.

          September 17, 2013 at 6:54 pm |
        • AE

          In the comments I see atheists insist that is what believers believe.

          But in reality I don't see many believers that act that way.

          September 17, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
        • In Santa we trust

          Believers do post that on this blog.
          Believers also want to impose their beliefs on the rest of society.

          September 17, 2013 at 9:43 pm |
    • Atheist FOREVER

      You can't "hate" what you don't believe exists. Get a clue.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:55 pm |
    • Name*phil

      If there is no god. Then how can you hate him? I fully support people expressing their opinion. Even if its not what I believe. It's not my place to judge. However in my opinion I don't feel it's in good taste for you to make comments like this on an article of this topic.

      September 17, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
    • boredofceleb

      @Tennets: A) You contradict yourself as it makes no sense to hate something you don't believe exists, and
      B) If you are trying to recruit nonbelievers, you turn people off by being a "Hater".

      September 17, 2013 at 7:48 pm |
  20. raeder10

    Like to know how old his son was when he
    told people that his son has problems.

    September 17, 2013 at 6:29 pm |
    • Atheist FOREVER

      I suspect it happened right around puberty, when his son came out of the closet and was then told he was a hell-bound sinner that had to "pray his gay away".

      September 17, 2013 at 6:56 pm |
      • boredofceleb

        So you were actually there in the Warren home and witnessed this happening when he came out of the closet? That is actually laughable. You are making yourself sound as bad as the people you are condemning with your "assumptive judgmentalism".

        September 17, 2013 at 7:37 pm |
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