home
RSS
Holy Trollers: How to argue about religion online
They are the same cast of characters that surface during every online debate about religion. Do you know a "Holy Troller?"
October 5th, 2013
08:00 AM ET

Holy Trollers: How to argue about religion online

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) –"Yo mama..."

Whenever I heard those two words while growing up in inner-city Baltimore, I knew something bad was about to happen. Trading insults was a childhood ritual. But everyone understood that one subject was off-limits. You didn’t talk about anybody’s momma unless you were prepared to start swinging.

Now that I’m all grown-up, I’ve discovered a new arena for combat: The reader’s comments section for stories about religion.

When I first started writing about religion for an online news site, I eagerly turned to the comment section for my articles, fishing for compliments and wondering if I had provoked any thoughtful discussions about faith.

I don’t wonder anymore.

When I look at the comment section now, I see a whole lot of “yo mamas” being tossed about. Readers exchange juvenile insults, condescending lectures and veer off into tangents that have nothing to do with the article they just read.

For years, I’ve listened to these “holy trollers” in silence. Now I’m calling them out. I’ve learned that the same types of people take over online discussions about faith and transform them into the verbal equivalent of a food fight. You may recognize some of these characters.

You might even recognize yourself.

The Street Corner Prophet

When the Belief Blog ran a recent article on a television host who declared that atheists “don’t have to live here,” a commenter identified as “Karie” got into a heated exchange with someone who called themselves “Bible Clown.”

Karie called Bible Clown a “disgusting, deviant perverted virus,” and a “Bozo,” before ending with this prediction:

Hell is coming for you love. Special dungeon just for u and u won’t be able to die. LOL.LOL.”

The street corner prophets often act as if they’re deeply concerned about the fate of souls they disagree with, but you can tell that they relish the prospect of eternal torment for their online enemies.

Some don’t even try to hide their true motives:

“I hope you like worms because you will have your own personal worm to feed off your fat drippings in hell for all eternity…”

That’s what a commenter called “HeavenSent” said to another following an article on evangelical Pastor Rick Warren. HeavenSent ended his malediction with one word: “Amen.”

Okay, so that’s the wrong way to argue about religion online if you’re a street corner prophet. Now, here’s the right way:

Not everyone who disagrees with you deserves eternal torment. People rarely listen to someone who is in perpetual attack mode.

“We change no one’s mind by attacking,” said Charles Camosy, an ethics professor at Fordham University in New York City.

Camosy has made a career out of bridging religious differences. He’s part of a “Contending Modernites” group, which finds common ground between Christians and Muslims. He’s also the co-founder of a website devoted to dialing down the heat in religious arguments entitled, “Catholic Moral Theology.”

Camosy says that online discussions about religion are difficult because they are not in person. Tone and nuance gets lost online.

“You can’t look them in the face,” he said. “You can’t shake their hand or give a hug. You find it very difficult to have that sort of embodied trust.”

The Provoker

There isn’t any notion of “embodied trust” with the next online character: The provoker.

The provoker doesn’t even pretend to care about the final destination for someone’s soul. They come out punching, and they love to say things that they probably wouldn’t say to someone in person.

In the recent article on Warren, a reader who went by the surname of “Just the Facts Ma’am,” tells another:

“Thanks for once again confirming how vulgar, uneducated and delusional you are Meredith.”

In an article about millennials leaving the church, a reader who identified herself as “Jenna,” tells another: “Jesus never said any of that mess. You are a false prophet if I’ve ever seen one.”

How to argue about religion if you’re a provoker:

No one will listen to you if they don’t like you, said Joe Carter, an evangelical blogger and author of “How to Argue like Jesus,” a book that explores how Jesus verbally tangled with his enemies and persuaded his friends.

Carter said Jesus was such an excellent communicator because he told stories that provoked emotions, took surprising twists and forced people to draw their own conclusions. But he also connected with people because of a simple reason: he cared about them.

“When people know that you care about them, they’re more likely to be persuaded by you,” Carter said. “We tend to be persuaded by people we like and trust. Jesus had that in spades.”

The Atheist

One of my best friends was an atheist. Whenever we ran into one other, we’d launch into these long, philosophical discussions about religion.  I loved it. Like many atheists I subsequently met, I discovered that he knew more about the Bible than most people who claimed to be religious.

It’s too bad that many of the exchanges between atheists and people of faith in our comments section don’t follow the same script. In fact, they have some of the nastiest religious arguments I’ve witnessed online.

A sample:

In a recent Belief Blog article about atheism, a reader identifying himself as “Sam Stone” says to another: “Free people do not need a savior, Kate. Only slaves need saviors.”

Another reader who identifies himself as “CamDEn1” tells a Christian, “You are an uneducated fool. Ever you heard of Richard Dawkins? Sam Harris? Atheists have more respected scholars than Christianity…”

I get the source of frustration for some atheists. They have longed been caricatured by people of faith as moral degenerates who don’t care about morality. Some of them, in turn, have caricatured people of faith as weak-minded hypocrites who believe in fairy tales.

Here’s how to argue over religion if you’re an atheist:

Get beyond the stereotypes and actually spend time with a person of faith. And if you’re a person of faith, do the same with an atheist. You might be surprised.

That’s what happened when Camosy, the Fordham University ethics professor, embarked on a speaking tour with the renowned atheist and philosopher, Peter Singer, who is seen by many as the founder of the animal rights movement.

Camosy said the speaking tour forced him to read and pay attention to Singer’s arguments. He discovered that they share concerns over global poverty. He saw Singer as a person of good will.

“That created the space for us to have an honest, open and fruitful exchange with one another rather than exchanging barbs,” Camosy said.

It also created the space for personal transformation.

“Actually reading him converted me to being a vegetarian,” Camosy said. “But it was only being open to his arguments that made me see.”

The Scholar

I have a friend who is smart – scary smart.  He’s a genial, funny guy who happens to be a theology professor. I try to hang with him when we talk religion, but there’s always a point in the conversation when he loses me. I compare that moment to watching the starship Enterprise go into warp drive. He just goes into hyperspace and my brain just isn’t big enough to follow.

There a lot of big brains in our blog’s comment sections. I call these readers “the scholars.”

Some of them are self-appointed biblical experts. They talk as if they have God’s cell phone number: God has revealed great mysteries to them. They know the divine plan.

In a recent article I wrote about contemporary Christians feeling as if they were persecuted, a reader identified as “Tom Skylark” let me know what all this persecution was really about.

 Skylark said:

“Christians will face continued persecution then 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 will happen right before the 7 year tribulation when Israel burns Russia’s weapons for 7 years. (Ezekiel 39:9). Those who are not taken in the rapture will have the opportunity to receive Christ during the 7 year tribulation but will be beheaded for their testimony. (Revelation 20:4). How far is Russia towards its prophetic position which means the rapture (! Thessalonians 4:16-17) is even closer?

Actually, I did not know that, and I’m still not sure what it means.

Sometimes the scholar is someone who believes all religion is hopelessly derivative: it’s all based on something that came before.

A reader by the name of “Seyedibar” responded to my article on Christian persecution with this:

“A little study of history and comparative religion goes a long way. Abraham is based on an Egyptian figure. His god was Ptah, not El, and his vision was of Memphis, not Israel. Jesus was likely based on a Merkabah mystic, one of a hairdresser and carpenter. .. And if you back a little further, Uguritic archaeology shows us that the book of Genesis is based on the ancestor kings of the Canaanites. Most Christians and Jews aren’t aware that the creator of the Garden of Eden, El, is recorded to have died of a wild boar attack.”

 Like I said, hyperspace. I just can’t go where “Seyedibar” has gone before. I love the scholar’s passion for religion, but some of them lose me when they try to deploy all their knowledge of history and religion in any effort to change someone else’ beliefs.

How to argue about religion if you’re a scholar:

Accept that there is a limit to knowledge. I’ve never seen anyone say in response to a religious argument: “You are right. Your argument is irrefutable. I’m going to jettison a lifetime of beliefs on the spot right now because I obviously have no coherent reply.”

It just doesn’t happen.

Gordon Newby, a professor of Middle Eastern and South Asian Studies at Emory University, said most people change religious beliefs “not because of one argument” but only after long conversations and intimate exposure to another faith.

“Logical arguments are nice but they're not going to change someone’s life,” Newby said. “We’re way too complicated for that. We’re not programmed machines. We have this whole limbic system of emotions and appetites and everything else.”

The Peacemaker

There are some readers who give me hope when I go to the comment section. They are the “peacemakers,” and they surely bless me with their attitudes.

Peacemakers try to keep arguments from getting personal. They are the online referees.  They turn the other cheek.

An exchange between someone called “Bootyfunk” and “KatieRose” shows a peacemaker in action.

“Bootyfunk”  gets upset with “KatieRose” because she says  “we must respect all ideas in the world, no matter how crazy.”

Bootyfunk says people don’t have to respect all ideas, and tells Katie Rose she shouldn't tell people not to debate religion on a blog about religion.

What does KatieRose say in response? She doesn’t go to war. She makes the peace:

“Okay! That works for me,” KatieRose said. “I’m sorry if it sounded like I was ordering people not to talk about an issue: I just disagreed with the focus of the discussion.”

“Bootyfunk” ends the discussion with a smiley-face symbol and a “smooches, Katie.”

How to argue about religion if you’re a peacemaker:

Keep on doing what you’re doing.

If only the rest of the comment section had more peacemakers. I actually e-mailed readers like “Bootyfunk” and “KatieRose” to get their perspective, but all I got was silence. Not one commenter wanted to talk on the record for this story. Only one person – an atheist – responded to my invitations to chat, and he didn’t want his name used.

But I have a feeling I’ll hear again from these holy trollers when I scan the comment section of Belief Blog. So will you, even if you don’t read that much about religion. These holy trollers show up in our lives and our workplaces. Many of them will sit next to us at the dinner table when families and friends get together for the upcoming holidays.

When the conversation turns to religion, you may meet your holy troller, and you will have to make a choice.

Do I make the peace, or do I go the war?

What kind of holy troller will you be?

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Ethics • Internet • News media • Nones

soundoff (3,856 Responses)
  1. The Pope

    What a stoopido article. No one cares, especially me.

    October 5, 2013 at 2:09 pm |
  2. Dan

    “If every trace of any single religion were wiped out and nothing were passed on, it would never be created exactly that way again. There might be some other nonsense in its place, but not that exact nonsense. If all of science were wiped out, it would still be true and someone would find a way to figure it all out again.”
    ― Penn Jillette

    October 5, 2013 at 2:09 pm |
    • Oh please

      Because it's in quotation marks it's important? It must be important, a celebrity said it. (eye roll)

      October 6, 2013 at 6:23 am |
  3. Russ

    But, what if you really don't care to bridge the divide and simply hate either atheists or religious types? Can't we just say what we think, instead of tempering it to be nice?

    October 5, 2013 at 2:09 pm |
  4. T. Hunt

    This was a great article. It was relevant not only to religious articles, but your "holy trollers" are present all over the political articles as well. All of your categorized posters have been present on the boards following the headliners on CNN's front page about the government shut down all week.

    The only problem, I am seeing fewer and fewer peacemakers with each passing day. It is getting ugly over there.

    October 5, 2013 at 2:07 pm |
  5. Dan

    SCIENCE!

    October 5, 2013 at 2:06 pm |
  6. Elenor Rigby

    John Lennon said it best... Imagine no religion it isn't hard to do... Nothing to kill or die for...
    But, good luck to all the Fr. McKenzie's out there... writing their sermons that no one will hear no one comes near them, wiping the dirt from their hands as they walk from a grave, no one is saved... by all these religious rants.

    October 5, 2013 at 2:06 pm |
  7. RastaFairyAnn

    I really liked your article and I decided to say something nice. So.... You have excellent word choice and your quotes are well placed and effective. I like that you quote your sources. "Holy Troller" is a really clever play on words. The graphic was attention getting and those two things are probably why I clicked on your article in the first place. p.s. I'm sure that you are a nice person and a snappy dresser.

    October 5, 2013 at 2:05 pm |
  8. jharry

    "People rarely listen to someone who is in perpetual attack mode."

    That is why I don't listen to Muslims.

    Anyone who watches the evening news and doesn't come away with the knowledge that religion is the problem isn't paying attention, or incapable thereof.

    WARNING!!! CNN Moderators will delete any post 'they' think is politically incorrect without cause!

    October 5, 2013 at 2:05 pm |
  9. BK Moore

    I believe that many of these Trolls take them themselves WAY too seriously!
    – 10/005/2013 BK Moore, Rogue CNN Correspondent ™

    October 5, 2013 at 2:05 pm |
  10. wizard t. oz

    When my dad, white civil rights activist, lifelong fighter for reason and justice, died of cancer at a ripe old age he asked me to say this at his funeral. "It wasn't cancer that killed me, it was Jesus. If it weren't for Jesus cancer would have been cured a long time ago, the human race would today have a solar civilization. Christianity has held back the human race like an ocean liner tied to the foot of a hummingbird." I, being an atheist, but not nearly as 'religious' an atheist as my dad, trepedatiously said these words in front of the three or four hundred folks gathered for his memorial service. The fact that no one decided to have me lynched indicates progress.

    October 5, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
  11. AB Fresh

    Mecca
    Blankety blank out about to catch ya

    Rollin it up, got my paper
    L.A. is a friendly neighbor

    Don’t put on the upities and yuppities
    I like my dogs better

    Raised on religion, living on stealin’
    Mecca’s in my head buy not in my religion.

    October 5, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
  12. Mark Causey

    There are over 32,000 Christian denominations worshiping slightly different gods, 73 different Islamic denominations worshiping slightly different gods, and over 330 million different Hindu gods . Will somebody please tell me which is the "true" god? Hint, they are all man made.

    October 5, 2013 at 2:04 pm |
    • Billrich2

      What "slightly different" gods are Christians and Muslims worshiping. Because, if you read the Bible, you will see that the God of Abraham, Issac, and Jacob, is also the God of Ishmael, and Mohamed. In other words, there is only one God, and he is worshiped by Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike. Where do you get your information?

      October 5, 2013 at 2:08 pm |
      • Gawd

        You do realize that the bible was made up, right?

        October 5, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
        • Billrich2

          Where do you get your information?

          October 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm |
  13. iBod

    It's rather ironic that the author would choose to write his article on a blog where comments are read and reply only rather than on a format allowing commenters to read, reply, and vote.

    October 5, 2013 at 2:02 pm |
  14. Dave

    John Blake reminds me of the Dana Carvey character "Church Lady," when she used to do her "Superiority Dance" because no one was more important.

    October 5, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
  15. Food fight

    Nothing manifests more self righteousness than the lust for power.

    The path of weeping, crying and playing the victim in the pursuit of that power is contemptible.

    October 5, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
  16. Apple Bush

    My mother hurled the bowl at his head. It connected and blood and spaghetti painted the wall like modern art. He was still; he was unconscious.

    “I have to go to work,” she said and was gone as she wiped a tear, hoping I didn’t see. The sun was setting.

    He came to in a few minutes, muttered something about killing someone and then staggered out the front door. The screen slamming with a jolting thud.

    I called my best friend and asked him to come over as if nothing had just happened. He was on his way. I began cleaning up the mess.

    For every child that lives in a violent home, where is you God now?

    October 5, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
    • Michael

      MMMmmm...bloody spaghetti...my favorite!

      October 5, 2013 at 2:10 pm |
    • Billrich2

      You must first belong to him. Then you will begin to see the answer. It is there, right in front of you.

      October 5, 2013 at 2:10 pm |
      • Jennifer

        DING DING!
        oops there's the magic bell of delusion ringing again...(yo mama)

        October 5, 2013 at 2:21 pm |
        • Billrich2

          Go answer your door dear, apparently Avon is calling.

          October 5, 2013 at 2:55 pm |
  17. akis vassilleiou

    i think religion, faith, god are things of the yourh. you are a teen, you question basic stuff, you come up with an answer that suits you and you move on. the only reason i write in such articles is because i want to find a common ground between atheists and theists. i see things more practical and if we both want something good for this world i wont mind doing it together (atheists and theists)

    October 5, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
  18. Facts > Fairy Tales

    Sorry bible thumpers – there is no god.

    You worship the "teachings" of a book of fables which was transcribed by hand over hundreds of centuries, with each copy more embellished then the previous. If you ever played the game of telephone as a child, you know that once you whisper something in one person's ear and by the time it's gone around the room it's nowhere near the sentence you started off with. And you expect your precious book of fairy tales to still be truthful accounts? Haha.

    Not to mention you're talking about so long ago that the people were so backwards they could not explain much of the universe, and ended up giving god-names to normal every day stuff. Oh that bright globe in the sky? That's Apollo dude! It must be a god! Sure, that's ancient greek history – but you get the point. Man had practically no understanding of the scientific world around him, and was very backwards. Of course they would see certain things and look upon them as divine, magical, etc.

    Next, man as a sentient being is "afraid of the dark" and feels so self important they just can't bring it to themselves to believe after death there is nothing – oblivion. Of course he invents an invisible sky father to help him explain away the unknown or the terrifying.

    Sorry bible thumpers – the 95% of you on the planet, whatever your religion – you're all insane. You believe in, and your religion(s) have killed or would kill for – a lie. You are sick and twisted.

    When an atheist helps a little old lady across the street, or donates to a charity, it's not because they want to score points to avoid an imaginary lake of fire when they die. It's because they are genuinely good people, Since religious nuts act out of FEAR, and not goodness, that makes athiests morally superior to religious nutbags.

    Please wake up and smell the coffee – you are responsible for your own actions. No god is going to forgive or save you. The sooner you stop blaming your problems and resorting to cheap incantations, the sooner the world will take responsibility and become a better place.

    No Your Mama insults here – just cold hard facts no religion can refute. Truth, facts, reason should be your god – not some make believe dude in the sky.

    Love,
    Athiests of the world

    October 5, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
    • Mark Causey

      THANK YOU Facts > Fairy Tales!!!!

      October 5, 2013 at 2:07 pm |
    • boredofceleb

      WOW! 95% of the earth's inhabitants are insane? That's quite an assumption. And how do you propose we abolish ALL religions? If their faiths bring them comfort, who are you to tell people they are "insane" for believing?

      October 5, 2013 at 2:08 pm |
      • Food fight

        Believing is one thing. Being inspired to blow stuff up is quite another.

        October 5, 2013 at 2:13 pm |
      • Jen

        of course their faiths bring them comfort! LOL, that's what it is there for. "Faith" is simply license to believe in something without any proof.

        "Insane" might be a tad strong, but certainly there is an element of psychosis at work to think you are going to still live after you die, and that "eternity" is even possible, and that a "noodle monster" or whatever deity you choose is currently reading your thoughts and waiting for you to give you a big hug 🙂

        All religions put Human as the chosen species yet 99% of all Earth species have gong extinct. Humans have been here anatomically as such for approximately 200,000 years yet most religions turn a completely blind eye to that fact.

        October 5, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
    • Mary Mother

      Well said, thank you!! 🙂

      Well past time to sweep all the gods under the rug and only study them if we are interested in the mythological fantasy tales of Mankind.

      October 5, 2013 at 2:12 pm |
    • Dan

      I don't think that they actually believe that nonsense. They just WANT to believe it for some reason.

      October 5, 2013 at 2:13 pm |
      • Billrich2

        I feel the same way about evolutionists.

        October 5, 2013 at 2:22 pm |
    • Billrich2

      "with each copy more embellished then the previous." You cannot back that lie up. Have you ever heard of the Dead Sea Scrolls? They were found in 1946. Until their discovery, the oldest surviving texts of the Bible were from the 10th century. They are know as the Masoretic text. The Dead Sea Scrolls date all the way back to the 2nd century. That is 800 years earlier. Do you know what they discovered when they examined the texts? They discovered that, except for slightly different "ancient" wording, ( such as how we say "you" and King James would have said "thee") the texts were exactly the same as those of the Masoretic text, which is the same that we have today. Think about it, two-thousand years apart, and those texts read just like our current version of the God's Word. Man made? Not hardly!!

      October 5, 2013 at 2:19 pm |
    • someguy

      If you are going to bash and disregard the bible and Christianity in general, then you should probably try to understand it a little better. Specifically, your statement that infers a christian that donates to charity is only doing so to score points with the Big Man. This makes zero sense because it explicitly states in the Bible that you cannot reach heaven by your works here on Earth. Those Christians (Christians means little Christ) are just trying to emulate their savior Jesus, and why wouldn't they? There is no quota of good works that need to be accomplished if you are a Christian or a human being for that matter. I am not sure what a Christian has done to you to produce so much hate, but I am sorry for whatever it was. Please do not judge Christians on just what you hear in the media, but instead go out and have a discussion with one (in person, NOT online).

      October 5, 2013 at 2:38 pm |
    • Yared Ben Ysrael

      Nice Try, apparently you never read the Bible. And I don't know one Person who "worships the Bible. and, yes i have told the telephone game and you're right about time the message gets to the end the story completely changes, this is not the Case with the bible. and what makes that amazing is that like you said this was giving to Hebrew Prophets Over thousands of years yet remined the same.. it sounds like you are talking about your American History Books. And you say people was so backwards? you really believe that the average American today is Smarter then, Moses who was second in charge in Egypt. you think you were more educated then the Prophets, Daniel, Jonah, Isiah, King David? And King Solomon? Read the so called Fables the wrote, they Spoke multiple Languages and advised kings on domestic and foreign polices. You americans today would not be able to feed yourselves if not for supermarkets and Fast Food.. and i'm pretty sure the people in the book was at least smart enough to work for Wages.. And Could you please provide any valid sources about what happens after Death? seriously, if you know something the rest of the world don't know please lets us in on it. And you do know only Christians and a few other Abraham religions use the Bible ? the other 20,000 or so use other writings, some don't most don't use any writing at all and don't recognize any person in the Bible. in fact the largest religion in the world which is a Abraham religion, teach from the Koran and not the Bible, the Jewish people don't even use the Bible they use a book call the Talmud . what i'm showing you you have no basic understanding of religion or the bible, so your comment looks more like a Rant. and to believe that when you die that there is nothing takes faith also.. The Bible also tells us what will happen to America and it call any one who don't believe in the creator a FOOL. if i were you i would not like the Bible either.. i'm not religious, but i have took significant time to read the Book that has such an influence though out history. that alone makes it worth reading.. I Didn't believe until i read and gain a working knowledge of the Bible. .. And you may not believe but every leader of every nation believe in the Fight between God And Satan.. And that God will have the Finally say.. Aestheticism is just a New age religion.. enjoy whats left of your life here..

      October 5, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
    • Pretty sure

      Am I the only one that finds this particular response to this particular article ironic?

      October 5, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
  19. Casperdog

    I think that you're a little off the mark with the scholar category. When I see a comment like those, I don't think "this person is a genius and my mind is to small to contain their knowledge." I just think: this person is insane. Maybe if they explained more and ranted less I would listen to them.

    October 5, 2013 at 1:59 pm |
  20. Live4Him

    Excellent article! This really addresses some issues that I've seen in these forums. A little respect goes a long way.

    October 5, 2013 at 1:56 pm |
    • tony

      And truthful facts live forever

      October 5, 2013 at 1:57 pm |
      • HotAirAce

        And Lie4Him has none.

        October 5, 2013 at 2:01 pm |
      • Apple Bush

        But the fake facts don't.

        October 5, 2013 at 2:01 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      I think you as a person have a right to respect. Ideas don't have rights. If you try to float something absurd hoping that out of respect for you no one will challenge it, then expect to be disappointed. You attempt to represent, defend and spread the idea of an imaginary God that you hope will dominate people's lives and cause them to make over society in a way that fits in with that strange idea. As long as you do that there will be people who will oppose you.

      October 5, 2013 at 2:17 pm |
      • Live4Him

        @Tom, Tom, the Other One : I think you as a person have a right to respect. Ideas don't have rights.

        Agreed. However, you've never seen me complain on this forum about a person attack my (or anothers) ideas. Rather, I point out the personal attacks that occur here. So, you have a straw man fallacy here.

        @Tom, Tom, the Other One : You attempt to represent, defend and spread the idea of an imaginary God

        See – this is a personal attack NOT attacking ideas of Christianity, but MY belief in God. In short, you attacked ME, not the idea.

        For example, if I stated that your brown hair looks like cow dung, am I attacking you or your 'idea of a hairstyle'. Right, it is a personal attack. To advance your claim of "attacking ideas", your comments need to be addressed to the supporting evidence of that idea, not the holder of the idea.

        October 5, 2013 at 2:29 pm |
    • pep

      What?!! %$@*&%* and further more %$*&(@#%#* and then you can *&(#$%@& after you &^%($#^@.

      October 5, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47
Advertisement
About this blog

The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke with contributions from Eric Marrapodi and CNN's worldwide news gathering team.