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Holy Trollers: How to argue about religion online
They are the same cast of characters that surface during every online debate about religion. Do you know a "Holy Troller?"
October 5th, 2013
08:00 AM ET

Holy Trollers: How to argue about religion online

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) –"Yo mama..."

Whenever I heard those two words while growing up in inner-city Baltimore, I knew something bad was about to happen. Trading insults was a childhood ritual. But everyone understood that one subject was off-limits. You didn’t talk about anybody’s momma unless you were prepared to start swinging.

Now that I’m all grown-up, I’ve discovered a new arena for combat: The reader’s comments section for stories about religion.

When I first started writing about religion for an online news site, I eagerly turned to the comment section for my articles, fishing for compliments and wondering if I had provoked any thoughtful discussions about faith.

I don’t wonder anymore.

When I look at the comment section now, I see a whole lot of “yo mamas” being tossed about. Readers exchange juvenile insults, condescending lectures and veer off into tangents that have nothing to do with the article they just read.

For years, I’ve listened to these “holy trollers” in silence. Now I’m calling them out. I’ve learned that the same types of people take over online discussions about faith and transform them into the verbal equivalent of a food fight. You may recognize some of these characters.

You might even recognize yourself.

The Street Corner Prophet

When the Belief Blog ran a recent article on a television host who declared that atheists “don’t have to live here,” a commenter identified as “Karie” got into a heated exchange with someone who called themselves “Bible Clown.”

Karie called Bible Clown a “disgusting, deviant perverted virus,” and a “Bozo,” before ending with this prediction:

Hell is coming for you love. Special dungeon just for u and u won’t be able to die. LOL.LOL.”

The street corner prophets often act as if they’re deeply concerned about the fate of souls they disagree with, but you can tell that they relish the prospect of eternal torment for their online enemies.

Some don’t even try to hide their true motives:

“I hope you like worms because you will have your own personal worm to feed off your fat drippings in hell for all eternity…”

That’s what a commenter called “HeavenSent” said to another following an article on evangelical Pastor Rick Warren. HeavenSent ended his malediction with one word: “Amen.”

Okay, so that’s the wrong way to argue about religion online if you’re a street corner prophet. Now, here’s the right way:

Not everyone who disagrees with you deserves eternal torment. People rarely listen to someone who is in perpetual attack mode.

“We change no one’s mind by attacking,” said Charles Camosy, an ethics professor at Fordham University in New York City.

Camosy has made a career out of bridging religious differences. He’s part of a “Contending Modernites” group, which finds common ground between Christians and Muslims. He’s also the co-founder of a website devoted to dialing down the heat in religious arguments entitled, “Catholic Moral Theology.”

Camosy says that online discussions about religion are difficult because they are not in person. Tone and nuance gets lost online.

“You can’t look them in the face,” he said. “You can’t shake their hand or give a hug. You find it very difficult to have that sort of embodied trust.”

The Provoker

There isn’t any notion of “embodied trust” with the next online character: The provoker.

The provoker doesn’t even pretend to care about the final destination for someone’s soul. They come out punching, and they love to say things that they probably wouldn’t say to someone in person.

In the recent article on Warren, a reader who went by the surname of “Just the Facts Ma’am,” tells another:

“Thanks for once again confirming how vulgar, uneducated and delusional you are Meredith.”

In an article about millennials leaving the church, a reader who identified herself as “Jenna,” tells another: “Jesus never said any of that mess. You are a false prophet if I’ve ever seen one.”

How to argue about religion if you’re a provoker:

No one will listen to you if they don’t like you, said Joe Carter, an evangelical blogger and author of “How to Argue like Jesus,” a book that explores how Jesus verbally tangled with his enemies and persuaded his friends.

Carter said Jesus was such an excellent communicator because he told stories that provoked emotions, took surprising twists and forced people to draw their own conclusions. But he also connected with people because of a simple reason: he cared about them.

“When people know that you care about them, they’re more likely to be persuaded by you,” Carter said. “We tend to be persuaded by people we like and trust. Jesus had that in spades.”

The Atheist

One of my best friends was an atheist. Whenever we ran into one other, we’d launch into these long, philosophical discussions about religion.  I loved it. Like many atheists I subsequently met, I discovered that he knew more about the Bible than most people who claimed to be religious.

It’s too bad that many of the exchanges between atheists and people of faith in our comments section don’t follow the same script. In fact, they have some of the nastiest religious arguments I’ve witnessed online.

A sample:

In a recent Belief Blog article about atheism, a reader identifying himself as “Sam Stone” says to another: “Free people do not need a savior, Kate. Only slaves need saviors.”

Another reader who identifies himself as “CamDEn1” tells a Christian, “You are an uneducated fool. Ever you heard of Richard Dawkins? Sam Harris? Atheists have more respected scholars than Christianity…”

I get the source of frustration for some atheists. They have longed been caricatured by people of faith as moral degenerates who don’t care about morality. Some of them, in turn, have caricatured people of faith as weak-minded hypocrites who believe in fairy tales.

Here’s how to argue over religion if you’re an atheist:

Get beyond the stereotypes and actually spend time with a person of faith. And if you’re a person of faith, do the same with an atheist. You might be surprised.

That’s what happened when Camosy, the Fordham University ethics professor, embarked on a speaking tour with the renowned atheist and philosopher, Peter Singer, who is seen by many as the founder of the animal rights movement.

Camosy said the speaking tour forced him to read and pay attention to Singer’s arguments. He discovered that they share concerns over global poverty. He saw Singer as a person of good will.

“That created the space for us to have an honest, open and fruitful exchange with one another rather than exchanging barbs,” Camosy said.

It also created the space for personal transformation.

“Actually reading him converted me to being a vegetarian,” Camosy said. “But it was only being open to his arguments that made me see.”

The Scholar

I have a friend who is smart – scary smart.  He’s a genial, funny guy who happens to be a theology professor. I try to hang with him when we talk religion, but there’s always a point in the conversation when he loses me. I compare that moment to watching the starship Enterprise go into warp drive. He just goes into hyperspace and my brain just isn’t big enough to follow.

There a lot of big brains in our blog’s comment sections. I call these readers “the scholars.”

Some of them are self-appointed biblical experts. They talk as if they have God’s cell phone number: God has revealed great mysteries to them. They know the divine plan.

In a recent article I wrote about contemporary Christians feeling as if they were persecuted, a reader identified as “Tom Skylark” let me know what all this persecution was really about.

 Skylark said:

“Christians will face continued persecution then 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 will happen right before the 7 year tribulation when Israel burns Russia’s weapons for 7 years. (Ezekiel 39:9). Those who are not taken in the rapture will have the opportunity to receive Christ during the 7 year tribulation but will be beheaded for their testimony. (Revelation 20:4). How far is Russia towards its prophetic position which means the rapture (! Thessalonians 4:16-17) is even closer?

Actually, I did not know that, and I’m still not sure what it means.

Sometimes the scholar is someone who believes all religion is hopelessly derivative: it’s all based on something that came before.

A reader by the name of “Seyedibar” responded to my article on Christian persecution with this:

“A little study of history and comparative religion goes a long way. Abraham is based on an Egyptian figure. His god was Ptah, not El, and his vision was of Memphis, not Israel. Jesus was likely based on a Merkabah mystic, one of a hairdresser and carpenter. .. And if you back a little further, Uguritic archaeology shows us that the book of Genesis is based on the ancestor kings of the Canaanites. Most Christians and Jews aren’t aware that the creator of the Garden of Eden, El, is recorded to have died of a wild boar attack.”

 Like I said, hyperspace. I just can’t go where “Seyedibar” has gone before. I love the scholar’s passion for religion, but some of them lose me when they try to deploy all their knowledge of history and religion in any effort to change someone else’ beliefs.

How to argue about religion if you’re a scholar:

Accept that there is a limit to knowledge. I’ve never seen anyone say in response to a religious argument: “You are right. Your argument is irrefutable. I’m going to jettison a lifetime of beliefs on the spot right now because I obviously have no coherent reply.”

It just doesn’t happen.

Gordon Newby, a professor of Middle Eastern and South Asian Studies at Emory University, said most people change religious beliefs “not because of one argument” but only after long conversations and intimate exposure to another faith.

“Logical arguments are nice but they're not going to change someone’s life,” Newby said. “We’re way too complicated for that. We’re not programmed machines. We have this whole limbic system of emotions and appetites and everything else.”

The Peacemaker

There are some readers who give me hope when I go to the comment section. They are the “peacemakers,” and they surely bless me with their attitudes.

Peacemakers try to keep arguments from getting personal. They are the online referees.  They turn the other cheek.

An exchange between someone called “Bootyfunk” and “KatieRose” shows a peacemaker in action.

“Bootyfunk”  gets upset with “KatieRose” because she says  “we must respect all ideas in the world, no matter how crazy.”

Bootyfunk says people don’t have to respect all ideas, and tells Katie Rose she shouldn't tell people not to debate religion on a blog about religion.

What does KatieRose say in response? She doesn’t go to war. She makes the peace:

“Okay! That works for me,” KatieRose said. “I’m sorry if it sounded like I was ordering people not to talk about an issue: I just disagreed with the focus of the discussion.”

“Bootyfunk” ends the discussion with a smiley-face symbol and a “smooches, Katie.”

How to argue about religion if you’re a peacemaker:

Keep on doing what you’re doing.

If only the rest of the comment section had more peacemakers. I actually e-mailed readers like “Bootyfunk” and “KatieRose” to get their perspective, but all I got was silence. Not one commenter wanted to talk on the record for this story. Only one person – an atheist – responded to my invitations to chat, and he didn’t want his name used.

But I have a feeling I’ll hear again from these holy trollers when I scan the comment section of Belief Blog. So will you, even if you don’t read that much about religion. These holy trollers show up in our lives and our workplaces. Many of them will sit next to us at the dinner table when families and friends get together for the upcoming holidays.

When the conversation turns to religion, you may meet your holy troller, and you will have to make a choice.

Do I make the peace, or do I go the war?

What kind of holy troller will you be?

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Ethics • Internet • News media • Nones

soundoff (3,856 Responses)
  1. GottaGO

    Thank goodness the YAWEH is real, otherwise the sky would fall down!

    October 5, 2013 at 6:31 pm |
  2. Dyslexic Atheist

    OK. last time...THERE IS NO DOG 🙂

    October 5, 2013 at 6:29 pm |
    • Lamb of Dog

      Liar

      October 5, 2013 at 6:31 pm |
  3. El Christo Loco

    Crazy you can laugh at!

    October 5, 2013 at 6:28 pm |
  4. common sense

    i HATE god. But He gave me that thought, so I'm going to keep going to church to make sure I still get to get into the heavens.

    October 5, 2013 at 6:27 pm |
    • Opposing View

      Actually, the devil gave you that thought and you're bound for the lake...

      October 5, 2013 at 6:30 pm |
      • Lamb of Dog

        Can I rent a seadoo at the lake?

        October 5, 2013 at 6:34 pm |
      • Jarry

        ...and not for 10 years, or 100, or 1000, or 10,000, or 100,000 year.....not even for a million years, or a billion years, or a trillion years right? For.........ETERNITY 🙂

        religion is just bad math, every god story on this planet unravels in just a few quick minutes if you apply math and logic to it. Sad. But good news for those of us who are sick of all the fantasy supernatural mumbo jumbo...

        October 5, 2013 at 6:34 pm |
      • Lamb of Dog

        I can rent a seadoo for ETERNITY. Score

        October 5, 2013 at 6:39 pm |
    • Nell

      Blessed are you when men persecute you and falsely accuse you for that is how their fathers treated the prophets, rejoice for great will be your reward in heaven.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:35 pm |
      • common sense

        Thanks to the fool that has guaranteed me reward !

        October 5, 2013 at 6:35 pm |
  5. Theghostofjimjones

    I thank god every day for making me an atheist.

    October 5, 2013 at 6:25 pm |
    • Nell

      God created you, stupid you did to yourself.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:29 pm |
      • Nell

        Of course I have no proof of that, but I've always just known.

        October 5, 2013 at 6:31 pm |
        • Nell

          Kind of easy to spot stupid goes clear to the bone.

          October 5, 2013 at 6:36 pm |
    • Lamb of Dog

      Great reply genius.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:30 pm |
    • Opposing View

      Don't lie on God. God didn't make you an atheist. You made yourself at the behest of Lucifer...

      October 5, 2013 at 6:32 pm |
      • Bob

        The Christian sky fairy is so pathetically weak that he isn't able to just deal with "Lucifer". Some "god" ya got there...

        Enough of the religious fairy tales already.

        October 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm |
        • Opposing View

          So said a billion other fools before you. And they are all now in hell...

          October 5, 2013 at 6:43 pm |
  6. Doris

    Neil deGrasse Tyson, astrophysicist, explains how God disappeared as an explanation for things humans did not understand about the universe, as the "perimeter of ignorance" receded. The greatest minds dared increasingly brave to question the world around them, but sometimes cowardly copped out along the way when they faced problems -similar to the modern Intelligent Design movement that advocates a "god of the gaps"- until someone else took over and furthered scientific progress. (published 3/2/2013 youtube)

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxiLnC7ikw8&w=640&h=360]

    October 5, 2013 at 6:18 pm |
  7. Don't be a Hater

    I wonder if the Christian/Muslim/Jewish god is in the Hell that HE created?

    (well the holy books for each myth system ALL claim to be HIS word, and yet there are errors, mistakes, lies, and multiple accounts of plagiarism. I don't think plagiarism was one of HIS commands but it's still stealing right? So god stole. So god must be in Hell. Right? Christians? This could be possible right? I mean a thief is a thief is a thief. The bible so rips off the Epic of Gilgamesh, I think I'm on to something here....GOD IS IN HELL. hmmmmmmm....wonder how the secretly-atheist-Pope would view this idea...)

    October 5, 2013 at 6:18 pm |
    • common sense

      islam is not associated with Judaism or Christianity. Jews and Christians follow God, the muslims follow an idol.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:20 pm |
      • Nell

        whoops, better get back to studying Jeremy, you're way off and Mom is making meatloaf for dinner!

        October 5, 2013 at 6:22 pm |
        • Nell

          My bad... guess I really don't have a clue.

          October 5, 2013 at 6:24 pm |
      • Lamb of Dog

        Why would you use the name common sense when you have none?

        October 5, 2013 at 6:26 pm |
        • common sense

          ...because I'm a christian bigot with no clue?

          October 5, 2013 at 6:28 pm |
        • Nell

          Blessed are you when men persecute you and say all kind of evil against you because great will be your reward in heaven !

          October 5, 2013 at 6:32 pm |
  8. Sean

    You don't; it is a waste of time.

    October 5, 2013 at 6:15 pm |
  9. RCDC

    Matthew 7:21;Mark l6:16

    October 5, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
    • Lamb of Dog

      Bob 3:21, Joe 18:4

      October 5, 2013 at 6:19 pm |
      • R.Williams

        Army 20 : Navy 14 in the third quarter!

        October 5, 2013 at 7:01 pm |
  10. Pickle Kosher

    I don't fear god, in the same way that I don't fear Mickey Mouse's dog Pluto.

    October 5, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
  11. L

    If you've never tasted hot water, then how could you know what cold water should taste like ?

    If you've never been sad, how could you know what happy should feel like ?

    Has God ever experienced hell ?

    If the answer is no, then how could God know what heaven should feel like ?

    God = Liar ?

    God = Exist ?

    October 5, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
    • denver

      I'm an atheist but I think the answer to this is that God-as-Jesus experienced hell between his crucifixtion and resurrection.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:13 pm |
    • common sense

      Yes God has experienced it all at the cross, including physical death and glorious resurrection.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:15 pm |
      • Ed

        ohh, glorious! and how!

        be he did kind of copy Horus...

        October 5, 2013 at 6:19 pm |
        • common sense

          No satan has blinded idiots before ... you are no exception.

          October 5, 2013 at 6:21 pm |
        • Anonymous

          Horus was never reincarnated in Egyptian mythology. This is jsut a lie that occultists put forth starting around the late 1800s and early 1900s so that they could try to muddle down the story of Jesus.

          In Egyptian mythology, the closest to the ressurection story would be Osiris. Osiris was murdered by his brother Set. Osiris' wife Isis and his son Horus reassembled his body and returned him to life. However, Isis was unable to find Osiris' pen!s, and therefore being incomplete, Osiris was forced to live in the underworld as the god of the underworld. Horus would then go on to avenge his father by slaying Set, though Horus would lose one of his eyes in the battle. Horus would go on to be worshipped in the later Egyptian era as a top tier god and would supplant Ra as the god of the Sun in egyptian mythology until the time of Amon and Aten worship.

          October 5, 2013 at 7:09 pm |
    • Grant

      Actually, L, God did go to Hell when He died on the cross, carrying our sin. Yes Jesus went and preached to those there that had not heard His Name before. What else would He have been doing for those three days between His death and resurrection? Why else does it say in the Bible that of you go to the depths (of Hell), God is there? See, your logic fails. God is not a liar, and He most certainly exists

      October 5, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
  12. Jason

    "When the conversation turns to religion, you may meet your holy troller, and you will have to make a choice.
    Do I make the peace, or do I go the war?"

    I leave.

    October 5, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
    • Opposing View

      Leaving will not stop you from going to hell. But if you stick around, who knows, you just might learns something...

      October 5, 2013 at 6:34 pm |
      • sam stone

        Wow, hell.....must be pretty scary for those who believe that tripe

        October 6, 2013 at 10:42 am |
  13. Doris

    In 2001, scientists announced an amazing discovery: the oldest skull of a human ancestor ever found. The 3½ million year old fossil was remarkably complete, and unlike any previous fossil find. Its discovery – by a team led by Meave Leakey of the famous Leakey fossil-hunting family – has revolutionised our understanding of how humans evolved.

    The great mystery of our evolution is how an ape could have evolved into the extraordinary creature that is a human being. There has never been another animal like us on the planet. And yet ten million years ago there was no sign that humans would take over the world. Instead the Earth was dominated by the apes. More than 50 different species of ape roamed the world – ten million years ago Earth really was the planet of the apes. Three million years later, most had vanished. In their place came something clearly related to the apes, but also completely different: human beings!

    (Published on Jan 14, 2013)..

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnF3iSrrIWY&w=640&h=360]

    October 5, 2013 at 6:10 pm |
    • Lamb of Dog

      That was put there b god to test your faith.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
  14. Higgs Boson

    OK I get it by the lack of pledges coming in I as$ume some of you realize that I am the GOD damned particle named by physicists, but am I any more unbelievable than Benny Hinn or Joel Osteen or my all time favorite Jimmy Swaggart? Show a little love here.

    October 5, 2013 at 6:09 pm |
    • Lamb of Dog

      Joel Olsteen reminds me I am going to be rich. What have you done for me lately?

      October 5, 2013 at 6:12 pm |
    • Lamb of Dog

      And dont give me that hold the universe together BS.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:15 pm |
    • Higgs Boson

      LofD You may be better off with Benny Hinn, HE maybe able to cure of your malady/delusions, for a fee of course.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:22 pm |
    • Joel Oilsheen

      Give me your money and you'll feel better. I need more money to put more grease in my hair daily. I want to be even more slick and greasy and slimy.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:28 pm |
    • Higgs Boson

      Some of you are not taking me seriously but catholics know they cannot have Mass without me. Send your donations through the Vatican back door man, Friar Cookdabooks.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:41 pm |
  15. Bill

    When "Christians" have to resort to fraud and impersonation to argue others' points, it shows how valid their points are.

    October 5, 2013 at 6:07 pm |
    • Lamb of Dog

      Maybe you are both Bill. Try using the first letter of your last name like Bill C.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:10 pm |
  16. Pickle

    I was a Baptist when I started reading these comments, now I'm not sure 😦

    October 5, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
    • Lionly Lamb

      Kosher dill or sweet..?

      October 5, 2013 at 6:08 pm |
  17. RCDC

    Romans 4:9-15; Romans 2:17-24

    October 5, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
    • Lamb of Dog

      The Romans Mamma.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:08 pm |
    • denver

      2 Kings 2:23-24

      October 5, 2013 at 6:11 pm |
    • Lamb of Dog

      My Mamma: Life is like a box of choclates. You never know what you're gonna get.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:17 pm |
  18. theorycraft

    btw kids, it seems everybody should take a moment to remember that not believing in god doesn't make you an atheist. Believing there is no god or other kinds of sentient celestial beings is what makes you an atheist. I guess by definition atheists and christian-god believers are born to be enemies as they each view the other as being corrosive to society. And both leave no room for alternatives. Atheists say NO gods, people who believe in the judao christian god say he is the one and only, there shall be none other.

    October 5, 2013 at 5:58 pm |
    • unbeliever

      I also do not wear hats. I am not anti-hat. I however do not want anyone forcing me or others to wear hats. I do not define myself by my non-hat-wearing ways. I do not sit around all day, thinking about not wearing hats.

      Not wearing a hat does not define me. Not believing in one of the MANY dieties invented by mythology does not define me.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:03 pm |
    • Lionly Lamb

      We are all celestially sentient terrestrial beings of atomized conformities...

      October 5, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
    • denver

      I think it's more complex than that. Atheism is literally a lack of god belief, though many atheists do positively assert the non-existence of god.

      I consider myself an atheist but acknowledge that nobody can ever say with absolute certainty that something "god-like" might exist somewhere in the universe and so, cannot positively assert the non-existence of all gods everywhere.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:05 pm |
    • Maxwell's Demon

      That's an extremely idiosyncratic view of what "atheism" is.

      October 5, 2013 at 6:07 pm |
  19. Bill

    So what you're saying is I need to stand by and allow Christian terrorists to inject their religion into my laws and everyday life?

    I hope you understand when I decline to allow this to happen.

    October 5, 2013 at 5:57 pm |
    • Bill

      Laws against murder and stealing are an infringement on my rights. Who are these religious types that say stealing is wrong or murder is a crime?

      October 5, 2013 at 5:59 pm |
      • Bill

        Oh, so you're going to try to troll my perfectly valid points by using my name?

        Go away, a**hole.

        October 5, 2013 at 6:01 pm |
        • Bill

          By ass hole I mean me. Go away or I'll kill myself unless some religious type has made THAT a crime too !

          October 5, 2013 at 6:03 pm |
  20. Anonymous

    Jeez CNN, even in an article about religious trolling you don't waste a chance to run Christianity into the dirt and promote witchcraft (the give away being your inclusion of the false lie about the pagan deity El being equivalent to God.) I would bet money that CNN doesn't have what it takes to question the veracity of any of the false religions half as much as they crap on Christianity.

    I think it is funny how the author feigns ignorance too, this author does not seem ignorant about which he writes clearly, such as the occultic El myth and the false interpretation of Revelations by his professor friend (the professor seems to be a jehovah's witness or some sect in that vein.) So why the facade? If the author really were ignorant to some of the claims in his article, why even have him work on the belief blog when clearly he is not interested or knowledgeable enough? Of course the most likely case is that the belief blog writers are mostly witches, atheists, and maybe even straight up satanists. This is easily evidenced as there is only one religion the CNN belief blog ever targets negatively.

    If CNN belief blog were Christian, it would not constantly push articles denying or falsifying God. If it were Secular then there'd at least be articles questioning the veracity of islam, buddhism, hinduism, taoism, shinto, etc. just as equally as it questions Christianity. However there is only articles bashing Christianity on CNN Belief Blog, mostly written by upper class folks that travel in mystical circles. Much of these people even drop occult hints all the time. So it is pretty safe to say that CNN Belief blog is little more than a satanic mouthpiece.

    October 5, 2013 at 5:56 pm |
    • Bill

      Got a God complex much?

      October 5, 2013 at 5:57 pm |
      • Bill

        I wear stupid like a glove and it fits.

        October 5, 2013 at 6:00 pm |
        • Bill

          You certainly do.

          October 5, 2013 at 6:01 pm |
      • Anonymous

        No, I am merely mortal. However, I am just sick of watching CNN Beleif Blog only play up one side. I would like to see the occultist writers at CNN either stop their campaign, or at least introduce a little bit of fairness and grill the other religions just as much as they grill Christianity. You can't even call CNN secular anymore when there's only one religion they ever negatively target.

        October 5, 2013 at 6:02 pm |
        • Sarah

          ALL religions are pathetic wastes of time and thought...HAPPY? Not just your little voodoo bull about souls and gods and eternal lives....

          October 5, 2013 at 6:04 pm |
        • Opposing View

          Anonymous… I agree with you but isn't it obvious? Lucifer is fully in control at CNN, and he's calling the shots….

          October 5, 2013 at 7:15 pm |
        • Anonymous

          First to Sarah. Lol, well at least you are fair! However, not sure where you came up with the eternal lives and all that stuff as I did not mention it. Though if you allow me to go off on that tangent, I would assert that souls are real, but souls are not eternal. Souls have the potential to be eternal, but the soul can also be killed. This is the meaning of the Second Death and the Second Life.

          Secondly to Opposing View. Thank you for your comment of support. However, I think you give "Lucifer" too much credit. It is fair to say many within CNN are satanists, or at the least occultists. However, as is common with occult practicioners they often vie against eachother because that is their nature. I think CNN might have a few Christians, as well as certainly a lot of atheists, secularists, occultists, muslims, etc. My point is not to snuff out their beliefs, but is merely a desire for fairness in their Religion Section. It is not fair to crap on one religion constantly while giving a "free pass" to all the others.

          October 5, 2013 at 7:57 pm |
    • Too funny

      "you don't waste a chance to run Christianity into the dirt and promote witchcraft...."

      It's in the UPC codes, I know....

      LOL

      October 5, 2013 at 6:00 pm |
      • oh my

        [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g&w=640&h=360]

        October 5, 2013 at 6:02 pm |
    • Peg Leg II

      "mostly written by upper class folks that travel in mystical circles"...

      christians are so cute with their little devil beliefs, hee hee (coming for you soon son, and we won't be traveling "north" 🙂

      October 5, 2013 at 6:02 pm |
      • Anonymous

        Look into the Bohemian Grove, Skull and Bones, Holllywood, and the Freemasons. Those are just some of the best known examples of a mystical circle populated mostly by upper class folks or people of power.

        Sure their occult beliefs might just be fairy tales, but that sure doesn't stop a lot of the powerful people in politics, business, and entertainment from believing in the occult. Even right here on CNN many of their analysts are confirmed occultists, for instance David Gergen.

        October 5, 2013 at 6:51 pm |
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