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Holy Trollers: How to argue about religion online
They are the same cast of characters that surface during every online debate about religion. Do you know a "Holy Troller?"
October 5th, 2013
08:00 AM ET

Holy Trollers: How to argue about religion online

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) –"Yo mama..."

Whenever I heard those two words while growing up in inner-city Baltimore, I knew something bad was about to happen. Trading insults was a childhood ritual. But everyone understood that one subject was off-limits. You didn’t talk about anybody’s momma unless you were prepared to start swinging.

Now that I’m all grown-up, I’ve discovered a new arena for combat: The reader’s comments section for stories about religion.

When I first started writing about religion for an online news site, I eagerly turned to the comment section for my articles, fishing for compliments and wondering if I had provoked any thoughtful discussions about faith.

I don’t wonder anymore.

When I look at the comment section now, I see a whole lot of “yo mamas” being tossed about. Readers exchange juvenile insults, condescending lectures and veer off into tangents that have nothing to do with the article they just read.

For years, I’ve listened to these “holy trollers” in silence. Now I’m calling them out. I’ve learned that the same types of people take over online discussions about faith and transform them into the verbal equivalent of a food fight. You may recognize some of these characters.

You might even recognize yourself.

The Street Corner Prophet

When the Belief Blog ran a recent article on a television host who declared that atheists “don’t have to live here,” a commenter identified as “Karie” got into a heated exchange with someone who called themselves “Bible Clown.”

Karie called Bible Clown a “disgusting, deviant perverted virus,” and a “Bozo,” before ending with this prediction:

Hell is coming for you love. Special dungeon just for u and u won’t be able to die. LOL.LOL.”

The street corner prophets often act as if they’re deeply concerned about the fate of souls they disagree with, but you can tell that they relish the prospect of eternal torment for their online enemies.

Some don’t even try to hide their true motives:

“I hope you like worms because you will have your own personal worm to feed off your fat drippings in hell for all eternity…”

That’s what a commenter called “HeavenSent” said to another following an article on evangelical Pastor Rick Warren. HeavenSent ended his malediction with one word: “Amen.”

Okay, so that’s the wrong way to argue about religion online if you’re a street corner prophet. Now, here’s the right way:

Not everyone who disagrees with you deserves eternal torment. People rarely listen to someone who is in perpetual attack mode.

“We change no one’s mind by attacking,” said Charles Camosy, an ethics professor at Fordham University in New York City.

Camosy has made a career out of bridging religious differences. He’s part of a “Contending Modernites” group, which finds common ground between Christians and Muslims. He’s also the co-founder of a website devoted to dialing down the heat in religious arguments entitled, “Catholic Moral Theology.”

Camosy says that online discussions about religion are difficult because they are not in person. Tone and nuance gets lost online.

“You can’t look them in the face,” he said. “You can’t shake their hand or give a hug. You find it very difficult to have that sort of embodied trust.”

The Provoker

There isn’t any notion of “embodied trust” with the next online character: The provoker.

The provoker doesn’t even pretend to care about the final destination for someone’s soul. They come out punching, and they love to say things that they probably wouldn’t say to someone in person.

In the recent article on Warren, a reader who went by the surname of “Just the Facts Ma’am,” tells another:

“Thanks for once again confirming how vulgar, uneducated and delusional you are Meredith.”

In an article about millennials leaving the church, a reader who identified herself as “Jenna,” tells another: “Jesus never said any of that mess. You are a false prophet if I’ve ever seen one.”

How to argue about religion if you’re a provoker:

No one will listen to you if they don’t like you, said Joe Carter, an evangelical blogger and author of “How to Argue like Jesus,” a book that explores how Jesus verbally tangled with his enemies and persuaded his friends.

Carter said Jesus was such an excellent communicator because he told stories that provoked emotions, took surprising twists and forced people to draw their own conclusions. But he also connected with people because of a simple reason: he cared about them.

“When people know that you care about them, they’re more likely to be persuaded by you,” Carter said. “We tend to be persuaded by people we like and trust. Jesus had that in spades.”

The Atheist

One of my best friends was an atheist. Whenever we ran into one other, we’d launch into these long, philosophical discussions about religion.  I loved it. Like many atheists I subsequently met, I discovered that he knew more about the Bible than most people who claimed to be religious.

It’s too bad that many of the exchanges between atheists and people of faith in our comments section don’t follow the same script. In fact, they have some of the nastiest religious arguments I’ve witnessed online.

A sample:

In a recent Belief Blog article about atheism, a reader identifying himself as “Sam Stone” says to another: “Free people do not need a savior, Kate. Only slaves need saviors.”

Another reader who identifies himself as “CamDEn1” tells a Christian, “You are an uneducated fool. Ever you heard of Richard Dawkins? Sam Harris? Atheists have more respected scholars than Christianity…”

I get the source of frustration for some atheists. They have longed been caricatured by people of faith as moral degenerates who don’t care about morality. Some of them, in turn, have caricatured people of faith as weak-minded hypocrites who believe in fairy tales.

Here’s how to argue over religion if you’re an atheist:

Get beyond the stereotypes and actually spend time with a person of faith. And if you’re a person of faith, do the same with an atheist. You might be surprised.

That’s what happened when Camosy, the Fordham University ethics professor, embarked on a speaking tour with the renowned atheist and philosopher, Peter Singer, who is seen by many as the founder of the animal rights movement.

Camosy said the speaking tour forced him to read and pay attention to Singer’s arguments. He discovered that they share concerns over global poverty. He saw Singer as a person of good will.

“That created the space for us to have an honest, open and fruitful exchange with one another rather than exchanging barbs,” Camosy said.

It also created the space for personal transformation.

“Actually reading him converted me to being a vegetarian,” Camosy said. “But it was only being open to his arguments that made me see.”

The Scholar

I have a friend who is smart – scary smart.  He’s a genial, funny guy who happens to be a theology professor. I try to hang with him when we talk religion, but there’s always a point in the conversation when he loses me. I compare that moment to watching the starship Enterprise go into warp drive. He just goes into hyperspace and my brain just isn’t big enough to follow.

There a lot of big brains in our blog’s comment sections. I call these readers “the scholars.”

Some of them are self-appointed biblical experts. They talk as if they have God’s cell phone number: God has revealed great mysteries to them. They know the divine plan.

In a recent article I wrote about contemporary Christians feeling as if they were persecuted, a reader identified as “Tom Skylark” let me know what all this persecution was really about.

 Skylark said:

“Christians will face continued persecution then 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 will happen right before the 7 year tribulation when Israel burns Russia’s weapons for 7 years. (Ezekiel 39:9). Those who are not taken in the rapture will have the opportunity to receive Christ during the 7 year tribulation but will be beheaded for their testimony. (Revelation 20:4). How far is Russia towards its prophetic position which means the rapture (! Thessalonians 4:16-17) is even closer?

Actually, I did not know that, and I’m still not sure what it means.

Sometimes the scholar is someone who believes all religion is hopelessly derivative: it’s all based on something that came before.

A reader by the name of “Seyedibar” responded to my article on Christian persecution with this:

“A little study of history and comparative religion goes a long way. Abraham is based on an Egyptian figure. His god was Ptah, not El, and his vision was of Memphis, not Israel. Jesus was likely based on a Merkabah mystic, one of a hairdresser and carpenter. .. And if you back a little further, Uguritic archaeology shows us that the book of Genesis is based on the ancestor kings of the Canaanites. Most Christians and Jews aren’t aware that the creator of the Garden of Eden, El, is recorded to have died of a wild boar attack.”

 Like I said, hyperspace. I just can’t go where “Seyedibar” has gone before. I love the scholar’s passion for religion, but some of them lose me when they try to deploy all their knowledge of history and religion in any effort to change someone else’ beliefs.

How to argue about religion if you’re a scholar:

Accept that there is a limit to knowledge. I’ve never seen anyone say in response to a religious argument: “You are right. Your argument is irrefutable. I’m going to jettison a lifetime of beliefs on the spot right now because I obviously have no coherent reply.”

It just doesn’t happen.

Gordon Newby, a professor of Middle Eastern and South Asian Studies at Emory University, said most people change religious beliefs “not because of one argument” but only after long conversations and intimate exposure to another faith.

“Logical arguments are nice but they're not going to change someone’s life,” Newby said. “We’re way too complicated for that. We’re not programmed machines. We have this whole limbic system of emotions and appetites and everything else.”

The Peacemaker

There are some readers who give me hope when I go to the comment section. They are the “peacemakers,” and they surely bless me with their attitudes.

Peacemakers try to keep arguments from getting personal. They are the online referees.  They turn the other cheek.

An exchange between someone called “Bootyfunk” and “KatieRose” shows a peacemaker in action.

“Bootyfunk”  gets upset with “KatieRose” because she says  “we must respect all ideas in the world, no matter how crazy.”

Bootyfunk says people don’t have to respect all ideas, and tells Katie Rose she shouldn't tell people not to debate religion on a blog about religion.

What does KatieRose say in response? She doesn’t go to war. She makes the peace:

“Okay! That works for me,” KatieRose said. “I’m sorry if it sounded like I was ordering people not to talk about an issue: I just disagreed with the focus of the discussion.”

“Bootyfunk” ends the discussion with a smiley-face symbol and a “smooches, Katie.”

How to argue about religion if you’re a peacemaker:

Keep on doing what you’re doing.

If only the rest of the comment section had more peacemakers. I actually e-mailed readers like “Bootyfunk” and “KatieRose” to get their perspective, but all I got was silence. Not one commenter wanted to talk on the record for this story. Only one person – an atheist – responded to my invitations to chat, and he didn’t want his name used.

But I have a feeling I’ll hear again from these holy trollers when I scan the comment section of Belief Blog. So will you, even if you don’t read that much about religion. These holy trollers show up in our lives and our workplaces. Many of them will sit next to us at the dinner table when families and friends get together for the upcoming holidays.

When the conversation turns to religion, you may meet your holy troller, and you will have to make a choice.

Do I make the peace, or do I go the war?

What kind of holy troller will you be?

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Ethics • Internet • News media • Nones

soundoff (3,856 Responses)
  1. dewie

    I love dodo. She my gal. Sweet. Humble, kind and good. Never thinks of herself and promoting the garbage she self-publishes. She's a dandy alright.

    October 8, 2013 at 3:41 am |
  2. Reality # 2

    Jesus and his family had/has Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day demon of the demented. (As do BO and his family)(As do Biden and Ryan) (As does Scalia).

    October 7, 2013 at 11:31 pm |
  3. John C

    Why when a religious persons come for dinner they always expect to get a moment of silence? While the other way around they still expect their moment of silence...

    October 7, 2013 at 10:35 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

      If I'm ever having a dinner with people who demand a moment's prayer, that's when I demand a moment's farting/cursing.

      October 8, 2013 at 7:05 am |
  4. AMEN

    Bootyfunk
    he came to lift us out of slavery? weird, he certainly didn't say anything about that in the bible. in fact, he said disobedient slaves are to be beaten "with many stripes." the bible supports slavery throughout. there are even rules for how to sell your own daughter into slavery in the bible. disgusting.

    as slaves to your sins. utterly bound to, on a leash to, who u r and what u treasure, u r preparing for your fiery future.

    lol. they think they r miserable now,

    October 7, 2013 at 9:50 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      yes, i know you delight in the thought of atheists being sadistically tortured in hell for all eternity... that lovely place of eternal pain that your "all-loving" god created. if it was real, i'd actually rather go to hell than heaven. i'd rather have my skin pulled off than sit on a cloud worshiping god all day - that would be the worst torture of all, pretending to love a megalomaniac like god.

      October 8, 2013 at 1:43 pm |
  5. AMEN

    Youtube – Neil DeGrasse Tyson – The Perimeter of Ignorance "My point being that truths..."

    agreed. so, point being.
    i kill myself. i knew immediately who this was. instantly. it is a gift, dodo. what can i say? u vile piece of sprayface stench

    Youtube – Neil DeGrasse Tyson – The Perimeter of Ignorance "My point being that truths..."

    agreed. so, point being.
    i kill myself. i knew immediately who this was. instantly. it is a gift, dodo. what can i say? u vile piece of sprayface stench

    The street corner prophets often act as if they’re deeply concerned about the fate of souls they disagree with, but you can tell that they relish the prospect of eternal torment for their online enemies.athies are treated far worse than the slaves purchased by god's chosen. and athies long for their punishment. they crave it. they demand to reap the evil sown from their enslavement to sin. and the wages for engaging in their love for sin is death.
    "Madtown
    from pagan nations that Israel was to either drive out or destroy-–
    By pagan nations, you mean other creations of God? Other humans? Right, this is where we hear that God allegedly commands one sub-set of his equal creations to go kill and take the land of another sub-set of his equal creations. That sounds just like the desires of a loving and just God. Wait.......no it doesn't. It sounds just like human rationale."

    god, someday, would u mind removing enough of the stupidity from the perverted minds of these jerks that even they might get a glimpse of their depraved thinking? perhaps a split second of sanity will restore their will to conquer their fears. thanks, in jesus' name

    some people become evil and need punishment or would u prefer charles manson was free to roam around in ur backyard?

    Bootyfunk
    there is no good evidence jesus ever existed, similar to hercules and other figures of myth that accomplished magical feats.

    The street corner prophets often act ...

    if jesus did exist, he was just another crazy cult leader akin to david koresh or any other. jesus told people he was the son of god, he told people they would go to hell if they did not accept him as their savior. that means jesus, if he did live, was either a liar or a lunatic. either way, not exactly someone i would hold up as an example of good morals/ethics.

    unfortunately, limited intellect is something plaguing this fanatical gang of psychotics. crack-babies i guess. he could have been telling the truth. holy cow. no wonder they don't work

    October 7, 2013 at 9:37 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      "unfortunately, limited intellect is something plaguing this fanatical gang of psychotics. crack-babies i guess. he could have been telling the truth. holy cow. no wonder they don't work"
      +++ limited intellect? because we don't buy into your favorite explanation - Goddidit! you are intellectually lazy. but you think we're the crazy ones because we don't accept "magic" as an explanation. jesus could have been telling the truth? only if you believe in magic and fairy tales. so again, we're left with jesus was a liar or a lunatic. sorry, Amen, i know you want to believe people can walk on water and heal with a touch, but that's silly. it only shows people can be brainwashed into believing literally anything, even tales of magic.

      October 8, 2013 at 1:33 pm |
  6. AMEN

    Youtube – Neil DeGrasse Tyson – The Perimeter of Ignorance "My point being that truths..."

    agreed. so, point being.
    i kill myself. i knew immediately who this was. instantly. it is a gift, dodo. what can i say? u vile piece of sprayface stench

    October 7, 2013 at 9:25 pm |
  7. AMEN

    dear your majesty bozo

    “Hell is coming for you love. Special dungeon just for u and u won’t be able to die. LOL.LOL.”

    u prefer we ignore her?

    October 7, 2013 at 8:57 pm |
  8. Invisobudies

    I don't mind keeping company with folks who don't exist. Eventually I won't either and we'll all have that much more in common.

    October 7, 2013 at 8:13 pm |
  9. n8r0n

    John Blake,

    I'll let you give me advice about how to interact with religious people when you show that you have the basic intelligence needed to identify reality from mythology. Until then, keep your advice and your hocus pocus to yourself.

    Religion is allowed to persist as an intellectual perversion because until very recently, atheists have been far too tolerant of this nonsense. It's not virtuous to let you friend chain smoke or binge drink, continuing to believe that there's nothing wrong with their habit. Religious people need a sanity intervention.

    October 7, 2013 at 7:38 pm |
    • AMEN

      lol

      October 7, 2013 at 8:44 pm |
    • Youtube – Neil DeGrasse Tyson – The Perimeter of Ignorance

      lol!

      October 7, 2013 at 9:52 pm |
  10. Sume

    I like Christ a little, but man, Christians are just plain fugging nuts!!

    October 7, 2013 at 7:07 pm |
    • AMEN

      he can't stand u.

      October 7, 2013 at 8:59 pm |
  11. CEBundy

    If someone wants to have faith, fine with me. When they start legislating faith or force it on me in other ways, then I have a problem with that.

    October 7, 2013 at 7:06 pm |
    • AMEN

      i have some kleenex and diapies. u poor baby

      October 7, 2013 at 8:49 pm |
  12. Truth Seeker

    Why are you all still debating this?! Move on to something that really WILL change the world. Put your energies into something beneficial and useful and perhaps you wouldn't feel so left out in the cold of the universe!
    Apparently, some people would rather be accused of being delusional and have hope, than to be considered non-delusional and have no hope of anything at all.

    October 7, 2013 at 6:45 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      You are under the false impression that the belief in supersti.tion does not have an effect on the rest of us.

      October 7, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
  13. Heath Wells

    There is no joy, fulfillment or happiness away from God. He is the source of life, love, joy and happiness. So when we reject him, in essence we have rejected all those and chosen death, misery and eternal damnation. Besides, we are spiritual beings. We were created to be complete only in fellowship with God, he is the one who can fill that emptiness or void in us. That fellowship was destroyed when man disobeyed God-sin is disobeying God.

    October 7, 2013 at 5:39 pm |
    • sam

      ...did you read the article?

      October 7, 2013 at 6:19 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Can you domestrate the truth of any of that or are we supposed to just accept that at face value?

      October 7, 2013 at 6:20 pm |
      • Food for thought

        Can you accurately demonstrate that a painting is beautiful?

        October 7, 2013 at 6:44 pm |
        • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

          Beauty is subjective. Is your god subjective too?

          October 7, 2013 at 6:46 pm |
        • Food for thought

          Mine? Definitely...but He's my favorite thing about being alive.

          October 7, 2013 at 6:48 pm |
        • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

          If you are saying that god is just a subjective opinion, I will have to agree with you.

          October 7, 2013 at 7:07 pm |
    • heehee

      Counter example: I'm happy, and so is the rest of my atheist family.

      Is there anything left of your argument?

      October 7, 2013 at 7:23 pm |
    • sam stone

      Sin is a man made concept

      Your post is full of feel good conjecture

      October 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm |
    • MAGIC IS NOT REAL

      BROWN NOSING FOR YAWEH

      Every time I see some self-abasing loseя like you svcking the pẽnis of wealth & power called god, it makes me LOL at how religion makes weak, spineless cowards. Traitor to yourself and the world, duplicitous liar who betrays himself and trades his very life for the only gift religion actually delivers: NARCISSISM. LOL.

      DVMBFVCK

      Here you are sharing your emotional POVERTY and HOPELESS MISERY of life that you call god, trying to lie to yourself by describing to everyone the sewer where you live is a palace of ethereal beauty. LOL. You STÜPID repulsive fearful ạsskịşsing pig, a doormat for the criminals of the world as they wipe their fẽces on your ignorance & greed and you thank them for their abuse. LOL.

      In the desert
      I saw a creature, naked, bestial,
      Who, squatting upon the ground,
      Held his god in his hands,
      And ate of it.
      I said: "Is it good, friend?"
      "It is bitter-bitter," he answered;
      "But I like it
      Because it is bitter,
      And because it is my god.

      October 7, 2013 at 11:47 pm |
  14. heehee

    Imagine if the author had made "Christian" a category of troll.

    Does that make the double standard apparent to anyone? This is the guy who is asking me to be more polite?

    October 7, 2013 at 5:38 pm |
  15. pharisee DM

    "Madtown
    from pagan nations that Israel was to either drive out or destroy-–
    By pagan nations, you mean other creations of God? Other humans? Right, this is where we hear that God allegedly commands one sub-set of his equal creations to go kill and take the land of another sub-set of his equal creations. That sounds just like the desires of a loving and just God. Wait.......no it doesn't. It sounds just like human rationale."

    god, someday, would u mind removing enough of the stupidity from the perverted minds of these jerks that even they might get a glimpse of their depraved thinking? perhaps a split second of sanity will restore their will to conquer their fears. thanks, in jesus' name

    some people become evil and need punishment or would u prefer charles manson was free to roam around in ur backyard?

    October 7, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
    • Akira

      More Tourette's Keyboard.

      You, indeed, are the Charles Manson of the belief Blog. Bet you're proud, Karie.

      October 7, 2013 at 6:03 pm |
    • heehee

      ....umm...come again?

      October 7, 2013 at 7:35 pm |
  16. Nance

    sam stone is a guy, moron. You've been told this time and time again. Apparently, reading comprehension escapes you.

    October 7, 2013 at 5:19 pm |
  17. cherri

    "October 6, 2013 at 10:22 pm | Report abuse | Reply
    Observer
    The world could have be created by Zeus or a committee of zombies or the Three Stooges or an infinite number of other possibilities."

    but, not christ.

    your proof it could be, "Zeus or a committee of zombies or the Three Stooges or an infinite number of other possibilities" is where?

    take your time. be thorough.

    October 7, 2013 at 4:27 pm |
    • Akira

      Change your name again, faith? The list is getting long.

      October 7, 2013 at 4:35 pm |
    • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

      Ok, I admit Christ is as equally plausible an explaination for the universe as Zues or Zombies or the Stooges....feel better now?

      October 7, 2013 at 4:40 pm |
      • point being

        so, u r obsever.

        and where is your proof that jesus was god?

        October 7, 2013 at 5:40 pm |
        • Akira

          No, he answered a post. Next time, do please tell us all in advance if Observer is the only person you want to answer your post, faith.

          October 7, 2013 at 5:50 pm |
        • Akira

          No, BATC just answered that post; are others not allowed? Are you the thread nanny now?

          October 7, 2013 at 5:56 pm |
        • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

          No I am not observer, but you made the same claim about me last night, I answered your question. Christ is just as plausible as Zues. If you want to claim Christ created everything and Zues didn't provide your proof. Otherwise Christ as answer is just a claim....anyone can make claims.

          Pixies are the reason for gravity...prove me wrong!

          October 7, 2013 at 6:14 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      there is no good evidence jesus ever existed, similar to hercules and other figures of myth that accomplished magical feats.

      if jesus did exist, he was just another crazy cult leader akin to david koresh or any other. jesus told people he was the son of god, he told people they would go to hell if they did not accept him as their savior. that means jesus, if he did live, was either a liar or a lunatic. either way, not exactly someone i would hold up as an example of good morals/ethics.

      October 7, 2013 at 5:19 pm |
      • nathandf

        ...OR Jesus was who he claimed to be... at least make an attempt to present all the options

        October 7, 2013 at 8:26 pm |
    • Heath Wells

      Jesus Christ loves you so much, He gave His life for you. All who call on the name of Jesus will be saved. I hope all who read this will invest time in learning about what Jesus did. Not a religion, not tradition passed down, just the word of God found in the Holy Bible.

      October 7, 2013 at 5:38 pm |
      • Blessed are the Cheesemakers

        Jesus loves us so much...he created hell just in case we don't love him back.

        October 7, 2013 at 6:16 pm |
      • Sue

        How cute! What a nice little fictional son of a god 🙂 Please give him a message from us since you obviously talk to him and of course I know he listens to you. When he returns in mortal form again, remind him of the old adage "if it bleeds, we can kill it"

        October 7, 2013 at 7:06 pm |
        • Youtube - Neil DeGrasse Tyson - The Perimeter of Ignorance

          You know, that's a really sick thing to say. With all of your "freedom," you are obviously quite lost.

          October 7, 2013 at 7:56 pm |
      • heehee

        Wait, it's the word of god? That settles it then. I wish you people would have told me sooner.

        October 7, 2013 at 7:26 pm |
      • sam stone

        Interesting that you desire eternity with a being from whom you have to be saved

        Spend a lot of time on your knees, Heather?

        October 7, 2013 at 7:59 pm |
      • tallulah13

        Every athiest on this blog is aware of the promises made in the bible. We simply dismiss them for lack of proof. Personally, I find it very sad when adults speak of this myth as if it was the only joy in their lives. How truly heartbreaking.

        October 8, 2013 at 9:37 am |
    • dewie

      U failed again dodo. Zeus can be god, but Jesus, that is too weird. U idiot.

      October 8, 2013 at 1:26 am |
  18. pharisee DM

    he came to set you, the captive, free. to end your slavery, your addictions to hate, lust, jealousy, murderous longings, impurity, laziness, gluttony, gossip, pettiness, lies and lying, thievery, love for money and the products of wealth, to egotism (dodo) and more.

    many here refuse to let him loosen their chains

    October 7, 2013 at 4:06 pm |
    • Akira

      Well, hi, faith! (Waves)
      Are you embarassed at being outed on this article as "Karie" and the name you stole from a 9/11 widow, "Meredith"?
      You gave CNN some weapons for their defense against your supposed 'lawsuit'; you realize that, correct?
      Have a nice day.

      October 7, 2013 at 4:20 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      he came to lift us out of slavery? weird, he certainly didn't say anything about that in the bible. in fact, he said disobedient slaves are to be beaten "with many stripes." the bible supports slavery throughout. there are even rules for how to sell your own daughter into slavery in the bible. disgusting.

      October 7, 2013 at 5:20 pm |
    • heehee

      Sniff... how did you know that I was addicted to hate, lust, jealousy, murderous longings, impurity, laziness, gluttony, gossip, pettiness, lies and lying, thievery, love for money and the products of wealth????

      That REALLY stings. Sniff.

      October 7, 2013 at 7:38 pm |
  19. InsanityPrevails

    These comments are so d@mn civil, (at least the first page,) especially in comparison to normal Belief Blogs.
    Can we do this again, guys?

    October 7, 2013 at 3:21 pm |
    • Bootyfunk

      we should respect people, but we don't have to respect crazy ideas/beliefs.

      October 7, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
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