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October 9th, 2013
02:27 PM ET

Creationists taunt atheists in latest billboard war

By Eric Marrapodi, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN)– A new video billboard in New York's Times Square has a message from creationists, "To all of our atheist friends: Thank God you're wrong."

The video advertisement at 42nd Street and Eighth Avenue in Manhattan is one of several billboards going up this week in New York, San Francisco and Los Angeles, paid for by Answers in Genesis.

Answers in Genesis is best known as the multimillion-dollar Christian ministry behind the Creation Museum outside Cincinnati.

The museum presents the case for Young Earth creationism, following what it says is a literal interpretation of the book of Genesis, which says the Earth was created by God in six days less than 10,000 years ago.

Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, said the idea for the advertisements came from an atheist billboard in Times Square at Christmas.

During the holidays, the American Atheists put up a billboard with images of Santa Claus and Jesus that read: "Keep the Merry, dump the myth."

“The Bible says to contend for the faith,” Ham said. “We thought we should come up with something that would make a statement in the culture, a bold statement, and direct them to our website.

"We're not against them personally. We're not trying to attack them personally, but we do believe they're wrong," he said.

"From an atheist's perspective, they believe when they die, they cease to exist. And we say 'no, you're not going to cease to exist; you're going to spend eternity with God or without God. And if you're an atheist, you're going to be spending it without God.' "

Dave Silverman, president of the American Atheists, said he felt sad for creationists when he saw the billboards.

"They refuse to look at the real world. They refuse to look at the evidence we have, and they offer none," Silverman said. "They might as well be saying, 'Thank Zeus you're wrong' or 'Thank Thor you're wrong.' "

Silverman said he welcomed another competitor to marketplace, noting that after atheists bought a billboard two years ago in Times Square that read "You KNOW it's a myth," the Catholic League purchased competing space at the entrance to the Lincoln Tunnel for a sign that read "You KNOW it's true."

"I would suggest, if they're actually trying to attract atheists, they should talk about proof and reason to believe in their god, not just some pithy play on words," Silverman said.

Ham says part of the goal of the campaign is to draw people to the website for Answers in Genesis, where he offers a lengthy post on his beliefs for the proof of God.

Ham insists that this campaign is in keeping with their overall mission. "We're a biblical authority ministry. We're really on about the Bible and the Gospel. Now, we do have a specialty in the area of the creation account and Genesis because that's where we say God's word has come under attack."

Ham said Answers in Genesis made the decision to split its marketing budget for the ministry between a regional campaign for the museum and this billboard campaign, rather than a national campaign.

IRS filings for the ministry in recent years have shown a yearly operating budget of more than $25 million. Ham said the marketing budget is about 2% of that, about $500,000 a year. Though they are waiting for all the bills to come due for this campaign, he said he expected it to cost between $150,000 and $200,000.

Silverman noted that his billboards were not video and cost approximately $25,000 last year.  He said another campaign was in the works for this year.

"They're throwing down the gauntlet, and we're picking it up," Silverman said, adding that his group would "slap them in the face" with it.

Ham said that despite criticism from other Christians for being negative and the usual criticisms from secularists he received on his social media accounts, the advertisements have been a success.

"We wanted people talking about them, and we wanted discussion about this. We wanted people thinking about God," Ham said.

The Creation Museum and the theory of Young Earth creationism are widely reviled by the broader science community.

In a YouTube video posted last year titled "Creationism Is Not Appropriate For Children," Bill Nye the Science Guy slammed creationism, imploring parents not to teach it to their children. "We need scientifically literate voters and taxpayers for the future," he said. "We need engineers that can build stuff and solve problems."

The museum responded with its own video. 

For the past 30 years, Gallup Inc. has been tracking American opinions about creationism.

In June 2012, Gallup's latest findings showed that 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.

For as long as Gallup has conducted the survey, creationism has remained far and away the most popular answer, with 40% to 47% of Americans surveyed saying they believed that God created humans in their present form at one point within the past 10,000 years.

The Creation Museum said it recently welcomed its 2 millionth visitor since its opening in 2007.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Atheism • Belief • Christianity • Creationism • New York • Science

soundoff (8,748 Responses)
  1. DunWithThis

    Whatever y'all libralls might be saying...the baby jesus was not a socialist, or a communist, or a fascist, or any other kind of ist that I'm having trubull remembrin right now.

    October 9, 2013 at 5:05 pm |
    • anon

      Jesus openly advocated for the poor, and pressured people to be charitable to them. However, never ONCE did he advocate the forceful removal of the riches of others to be handed over to the poor. It was STRICTLY a volunteer thing.

      Ironically, he DID in a parable describe how the man with only one talent should have it removed and be given to the man with multiple talents. In other words, Robin hood in reverse. According to the parable, this should be done to reward the hardworking and wise money managers, while punishing the poor who are poor through foolishness.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:10 pm |
      • DunWithThis

        Anon – bless your heart, mister. You're exactly right! Jesus doesn't want us rich folk to go without. Jesus especially doesn't want that balak pajama guy to take our money away and give it to the disfortunate. I'm all for givin the poor buybulls, but not cash money.

        October 9, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
        • anon

          I know you're being sarcastic. What happened to the idea of rewarding folks for their good behavior and right choices? Many in other countries are stuck in poverty through no fault of their own, but let's face it: a REMARKABLE number of people right here in this country are pi$$ poor managers of money. Most people who are rich are so because they worked hard and EARNED it. What is wrong with rewarding that?

          October 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
    • Youtube - Neil DeGrasse Tyson - The Perimeter of Ignorance

      Hmmm. Was Jesus a bigott or racistt? Was Jesus a capitalist? Would Jesus have been for gun control? There you have it, Jesus was a liberal.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:15 pm |
      • ed dugan

        Wel, since he never had a job in his life I guess he bummed off other people. So he was a homeless panhandler and his reincarnation can be seen on any NY streetcorner. Go visit him, he likes company.

        October 9, 2013 at 5:30 pm |
        • Youtube - Neil DeGrasse Tyson - The Perimeter of Ignorance

          That was a fairly straight-forward debate, and incredibly short. I should also mention that Jesus was not a war monger. Now, I think that covers everyone in the Republican party.

          October 9, 2013 at 5:37 pm |
  2. Dyslexic doG

    The 5 laws of the Theory of Evolution have proven their validity thousands of times by millions of people.
    The principles are practically applied on a daily basis in fields like medicine, geology, mathematics, molecular biology, robotics, chemistry, astrophysics, agriculture, epidemiology, aerospace engineering, architecture, data mining, drug discovery and design, electrical engineering, finance, geophysics, materials engineering, military strategy, pattern recognition, robotics, scheduling, systems engineering etc.

    Tangible proof can be found by studying vestigial features, ebryonic development, biogeography, DNA sequencing, pseudogenes, endogenous retroviruses, labratory direct examination of natural selection in action in E-Coli bacteria, lactose intolerance in humans, the peppered moth's colour change in reaction to industrial pollution, radiotrophic fungi at Chernobyl... all of these things add to the modern evolutionary synthesis.
    We have directly observes speciation in Blackcap birds, fruit flies, mosquitos, mice, Shortfin molly fish and other specimens.

    Some of the methods used to determine the age of the planet include:
    Stratigraphy, Dendrochronology,Obsidian Hydration Dating, Paleomagnetic/Archaeomagnetic , Luminescence Dating, Amino Acid Racemization, Fission-track Dating, Ice Cores, Cation Ratio, Fluorine Dating, Patination, oxidizable Carbon Ratio, Electron Spin Resonance , and Cosmic-ray Exposure Dating.

    Evidence for the Genesis Creation account comes from The Bible and... nothing else, I'm afraid.

    - Doc Vestibule

    October 9, 2013 at 5:05 pm |
    • EngineersGuideToGod

      Speciation between all these critters? And what did the mosquitoes turn into? What did the mice turn into? More mosquitoes and more mice! Even your beloved speciated blackcap birds are still ... (drum roll) ... BLACKCAP BIRDS! Come now - how is that proof of anything at all? Doc, you've still got a bit of a dilemma there ...

      October 9, 2013 at 5:36 pm |
  3. DunWithThis

    Why do y'all people hate the baby jesus so much? He's just wantin to love up on y'all. Not all scary lovin up – the good kind.

    October 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
    • Observer

      He does seem much nicer, kinder, more sensible and more liberal than his father.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
      • anon

        Hey, Jesus is the way to go, I'm tellin ya. If you got a problem with the atrocities mentioned in the old testament, then the best advice I can give you is to purchase a bible, tear out all of the old testament (or just go through it and keep the nice stuff), and just stick with the new testament. It's the part of the bible for the Christians anyway. Old testament is not much more then history and recap.

        Christians are supposed to follow and live by Jesus and the NEW testament. That's another thing atheists types can't seem to get right.

        October 9, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
        • Cpt. Obvious

          Gentle Jesus, meek and mild, is the guy who gives us eternal and fiery torment with worms gnawing flesh forever and ever, not the OT god.

          October 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm |
        • sam stone

          i don't care about your old or new testament, anon

          it has apparently made you a vindictive pr1ck

          unless you were one before, and the bible just provided you with an excuse

          October 9, 2013 at 5:22 pm |
        • FYI

          anon,

          The writers of the NT portray Jesus as a fervent Jew. He believed every word (every dot) of that ancient stuff.

          October 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm |
        • ed dugan

          We got one thing right. People like you are just plain stupid!

          October 9, 2013 at 5:32 pm |
        • CommonSensed

          If it's useless then why is it still in your bible?

          October 9, 2013 at 5:49 pm |
  4. Vik100

    Thank God for people that can stand up and defend their faith!!!

    October 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
    • Yumpin' Yupiter

      I picture them to be like some of the ancient Romans who prostrated themselves on the steps of the Forum, decrying the passing of the belief in Jupiter and Juno and the rest.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:16 pm |
  5. rickie

    i always find it funny evolution is based on a theory but people take it as fact, i just think the science commuinty should have atleast 95 percent proof of evolution before they take it as fact.

    October 9, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
    • In Santa we trust

      We know more about evolution than we do gravity. Should we not believe in gravity?

      October 9, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
    • Ivan Libya

      Oh Rickie, I feel sorry for you.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:05 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

      Evolution it is a theory based on observable and testable evidence. That's why it is taken as fact. Evolutionary biologists devote their life to its study and I'd trust their analysis far more than I'd trust the Professor of Truthology at Christian Tech.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:05 pm |
    • sam stone

      good for you, rickie.

      when you get a phd in scientific discipline, let us know

      October 9, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • Alma Mater

      Have you heard of carbon dating? No? How about carbon? Not that one either huh? How about the scientific method? Nope again? Industrial revolution perhaps? No? Renaissence? No? Age of enlightenment? Mathematics? Again no? Numbers? Bacteria? Genetics? Drift? Pharmaceutical resistent bacteria? Proof is there. Having faith and discounting proof is another matter. No amount of proof will satisfy faith.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
    • Pseudotriton

      They do have proof of evolution within 95% confidence interval. And the evidence are everywhere. It's another problem that some people just lack the intellect to comprehend the evidence.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
    • ME II

      Evolution is both a scientific theory and a fact.

      Is Evolution a Theory or a Fact?
      It is both. But that answer requires looking more deeply at the meanings of the words "theory" and "fact."
      – National Academies of Science (http://www.nas.edu/evolution/TheoryOrFact.html)

      October 9, 2013 at 5:09 pm |
    • l33theart

      I think we should also have 95% proof of God's existence before we take it as fact, too, then.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:25 pm |
      • Phillip

        But a book, written by some ancient desert dwelling nomads, says with 100% certainty that God is real. Isn't that proof enough?

        October 9, 2013 at 5:31 pm |
  6. DunWithThis

    Y'all quit trollin Jesus, ya heard? He don't like that. He put you in the burnin fires of h3ll.

    October 9, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
  7. Red

    How do you strengthen an atheist's convictions? Preach to him. Thank (God?) I consider myself agnostic because the battle between these religions is hysterically embarrassing...

    October 9, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

      Are you an agnostic concerning Yoda?

      October 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
      • Red

        No. Yoda is real. Don't be ridiculous.

        October 9, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
        • I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

          True.

          October 9, 2013 at 5:07 pm |
    • jaf1116

      You know, Agnostic is another word for chicken-poop atheist

      October 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
      • Red

        You're brilliant, Jaf.

        October 9, 2013 at 5:04 pm |
    • ME II

      While I agree, for the most part, with your stance on religion in a strict sense, organizations like AIG promote bad science, which is worth debating.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:03 pm |
      • Red

        I agree.

        October 9, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
  8. tubbytj

    Nice article, no slant either way.

    October 9, 2013 at 4:58 pm |
  9. Reality # 2

    Strong circ-umstantial evidence that there is no god-

    Number of god's creations who died horrible deaths from the following diseases: (or did they all die as martyrs?)

    1. 300,000,000 approx.
    Smallpox

    2. 200,000,000 ?
    Measles

    3. 100,000,000 approx.
    Black Death

    4. 80,000,000–250,000,000
    Malaria

    5. 50,000,000–100,000,000
    Spanish Flu

    6. 40,000,000–100,000,000
    Plague of Justinian

    7. 40,000,000–100,000,000
    Tuberculosis

    8. 30,000,000[13]
    AIDS pandemic

    9. 12,000,000 ?
    Third Pandemic of Bubonic Plague

    10. 5,000,000
    Antonine Plague

    11. 4,000,000
    Asian Flu

    12. 250,000 or more annually Seasonal influenza

    October 9, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

      A loving, caring god at least. There could be a god who's a complete d!ck.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:00 pm |
    • Dyslexic doG

      sure shows you how powerful prayer is ... because you can be sure they were ALL praying for god or jesus to save them!

      October 9, 2013 at 5:08 pm |
      • Ivan Libya

        Guess it just wasn't in the "Divine Plan" 😉

        October 9, 2013 at 5:11 pm |
  10. Dynan3

    Let these fools believe whatever they want. Buddha has shown through experiential teaching that no god or gods exist nor are any necessary for man to progress to a state of nirvana, or non-suffering (heaven).
    Before you say that this is just another religion, I suggest you investigate Buddha's teachings, not the ritual that came from them...in the same manner people have revised the teachings of Jesus to their own whim (see Inquisition, Nicean Council, Crusades).

    October 9, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
    • Reality # 2

      • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

      October 9, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
  11. DunWithThis

    What I want to know: Why can't I buy an action figure Jesus riding a dinosaur at the creationist museum? Why can I buy this at Crown Books? HMMM? Can a fellow chrisssstion please answer me this?

    October 9, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
  12. PWoggs

    46% of Americans believed in creationism! WOW and you guys talk about religios Zealots in the Middle East. Wow

    October 9, 2013 at 4:55 pm |
  13. King MIke

    Take a hard look at John 3:16 For God so loved the world, he sent his only begotton son so that whosoever believes in Him shall not PERISH, but have everlasting life. You will not live for eternity away from God. You will perish. Don't argue. Just read it.

    October 9, 2013 at 4:54 pm |
    • sam stone

      we know the line. why do you feel we should accept its authority?

      October 9, 2013 at 4:56 pm |
      • Alma Mater

        He didn't ask you to accept it. He is telling you how it is. Don't expect a rational conversation about anything where religion is concerned. "Questions are all links in a chain that leads straight to hell." – The Book of Mormon

        October 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
    • Pseudotriton

      "Don't argue. Just read it."

      Yup, that just about sums up all the arguments religion can offer: Don't argue with us. Just trust what we tell you, no matter how BS it sounds. We're the correct one, 'cuz, well, we said so.

      October 9, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
      • Ivan Libya

        Whoa, so you're telling me that just because says it over and over and over and over again, it doesn't become more true? 😉

        October 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
    • Dynan3

      Sam and Psuedo, you hit the nail on the head. these people don't WANT to know what dogma is. Glad Matt Damon wanted to.

      October 9, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
    • PWoggs

      “In my heart are the deeds my body has done and my heart has been weighed in the balance.”
      The Egyptian Book of the Dead
      Destroying an Empire to win a war is no victory. And ending a battle to save an Empire is no defeat. Klingon

      See we can both quote from fairy tails

      October 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
    • Reality # 2

      "Moreover, an atonement theology that says God sacrifices his own son in place of humans who needed to be punished for their sins might make some Christians love Jesus, but it is an obscene picture of God. It is almost heavenly child abuse, and may infect our imagination at more earthly levels as well. I do not want to express my faith through a theology that pictures God demanding blood sacrifices in order to be reconciled to us."

      "Traditionally, Christians have said, 'See how Christ's passion was foretold by the prophets." Actually, it was the other way around. The Hebrew prophets did not predict the events of Jesus' last week; rather, many of those Christian stories were created to fit the ancient prophecies in order to show that Jesus, despite his execution, was still and always held in the hands of God."

      "In terms of divine consistency, I do not think that anyone, anywhere, at any time, including Jesus, brings dead people back to life."

      from Professor JD Crossan in his book, Who is Jesus?

      October 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
  14. Keith Carter

    I am a Christian and I am what often called a gap creationist. Which means that I believe that the earth was created in the beginning, something happened and much if not all was destroyed and messed up and then God put it back together. How long the earth was there before that happened could be any length of time you want; billions, trillions etc. I also don't really have a problem with evolution, it is proven within species. I don't think the evidence really proves that one species will evolve into another. The time span to test this is too long to prove it, and DNA testing really just proves that we are made from the same cells. Simple logic however would support that if there is evolution within species that at some point the difference would be enough to call the results different species.

    October 9, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

      Trillions? Seriously, read any basic science book. Trillions is as ridiculous as thousands. We can say with almost complete certainty that the Earth is about 4.5 billion years old.

      October 9, 2013 at 4:57 pm |
      • Ivan Libya

        Unfortunately THAT up there, is what happens when they don't teach science in schools. The ability to use logic to come up with deductive reasoning based on evidence, goes out the window.

        October 9, 2013 at 5:01 pm |
    • Qingdienasty

      Why god? If God created the universe which is so vast and mysterious, then God itself will be an even more complicated and mysterious substance. We learn through science to make sense of everything that goes on in the universe, but to say "GOD did it" is such a lazy brain-numbing gesture to make. Leave god out of the equation and use your brain to make sense of the world around you. REligion is man made– it is the absolute power of religion that drives people to madness. We are at our purest when we believe that we only got one shot in life, so live it for the better of mankind and not for some blind faith.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:02 pm |
    • Dynan3

      Actually, Buddha spoke of time in infinite spans and many "Big Bang" lengths of time. Open your mind a little more and experience what he experienced through direct methods he left behind, and insight is sure to follow. No gods are necessary, none will be accepted. Higher planes of being? You betcha (though it's been a while for Sarah). Higher planes? Yes.Your God? No. YOU are in charge of YOU.

      October 9, 2013 at 5:19 pm |
  15. chuckmartel

    From article; ' In June 2012, Gallup's latest findings showed that 46% of Americans believed in creationism, 32% believed in evolution guided by God, and 15% believed in atheistic evolution.' Gallup's results make no sense. 'atheistic evolution' Is an idiotic term and makes no sense. Do they mean science as in big bang, Darwin, etc? Other categories senseless as well. Was idiot Gallup polling an idiot sample set? Scary results.

    October 9, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
    • Pseudotriton

      Just curious, in what way do you find that term idiotic? It's kinda hard to tell from your comment where you're really getting at.

      October 9, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
  16. DunWithThis

    Jesus rode dinosaurs. Duh. Everyone knows THAT.

    October 9, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
  17. A Dose of Reality

    There are many Atheists however who look down upon Christians as being inferior however because they have not made the leap of common sense and logic to understand that their God is a long perpetrated myth. In a sense it is akin to looking at a child who believes in Santa Clause. As adults we know full well he does not exist. The child hasn't grown up enough to shrug off the silly fantasy that has been fed to him/her to placate them. We see ourselves as the new grown-ups and you as the children placated by your Santa. We are urging you to grow out of that myth.

    The thing is, if you had met an Adult who still believed in Santa you would most likely treat them similarly. Think there's something fundamentally wrong with their sense of reality and wish to explain to them how ridiculous it is. The large difference here is in the fact that Christianity as a whole isn't so innocent as Santa. Christianity is guilty of so very many evil deeds in the name of God and the believers in Christianity are guilty of ignorance. Pretend for a second that the majority of people believed in Santa as a true fact and tried to force you to believe, coerce you to believe and judge you for not believing. This of course being the LEAST of what religions have done to people who don't believe them. You know Santa is a farce. You would be annoyed, angry, and feel like common sense had flown the coop.

    That is what Atheists are dealing with.

    All the logic, science, education and clear and obvious data about the world is purposefully ignored by theists and you swallow lies your whole lives, closed off to the possibility that you are wrong. We are not closed off to the possibility that we are wrong.. In fact, that's how most of us got to this stage of sanity. I was a believer who dared to question the "truth" of the gospels. When the answer to my questions were "pray about it" and "have faith" I needed to keep looking.

    We would be less angry if religions kept to themselves and stopped trying to dictate how others lived. If it stayed out of politics, we wouldn't be angry. If it stopped trying to tell people who aren't followers how to live their lives, we wouldn't care what you believed. If religions didn't cause untold millions of deaths, we would just simply giggle at your silly faith. That is not the case at all.

    You don't see us making cases against people who believe in Pagan faiths, we don't typically touch on Buddhism either. Because they don't try to control others. They do their thing and enjoy their beliefs without causing harm. You will never hear any of us speak out against Jainism for example. Never. They have a simple rule "above all, do no harm" and they follow it very closely. If your religion had that as the tenet and nothing else, we would be happy for you.

    October 9, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
    • I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that

      Jainists are d!cks.

      October 9, 2013 at 4:55 pm |
    • Dynan3

      Well put, Dose. I'll copy a reply I posted a few above yours to reiterate the point.

      ~Actually, Buddha spoke of time in infinite spans and many "Big Bang" lengths of time. Open your mind a little more and experience what he experienced through direct methods he left behind, and insight is sure to follow. No gods are necessary, none will be accepted. Higher planes of being? You betcha (though it's been a while for Sarah). Higher planes? Yes.Your God? No. YOU are in charge of YOU.~

      I suspect tht the concept of personal responsibility to yourseld AND the world still escapes the majority...for now. But as Buddha said, "The only thing permanent is change." This too shall pass.

      Scientific finding in quantum mechanic are now verifying what Buddha found through self observation. Anicca (constant change) happens at 10^22 time per second. You aren't what your were one second ago...no less a day ago. What you do with this power to change, progress and be compassionate is entirely up to you.

      I resisted this for a long time. Then the light went on, through experience of vipassana meditation. But when you try and share this with someone, you're called a kook, a zealot, or a religious freak. Sometimes, when I try and share my experience i feel like this: http://i.imgur.com/94PvO.gif

      October 9, 2013 at 5:29 pm |
  18. Athiest and Proud

    "And we say 'no, you're not going to cease to exist; you're going to spend eternity with God or without God. And if you're an atheist, you're going to be spending it without God.' "

    How is that a problem? If I spent my entire life without God, why would I miss him in the afterlife?

    October 9, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
    • Ivan Libya

      Duh, cause it's longer 😉

      October 9, 2013 at 4:59 pm |
  19. Tom, Tom, the Other One

    I really do want to see. Creationists are amazing. Do they admit to the generally accepted size of the visible Universe? Do they admit that the sun is a star and that other stars are the same sort of thing as the sun but of a vast assortment of properties? The earth is only a few thousand years old? Even before radioactivity was known, it was thought to be much older. Lord Kelvin estimated the age of the earth based on the thermodynamics of accretion with subsequent cooling – at least 400,000,000 years. What all do they deny to get the age down to a few thousand?

    October 9, 2013 at 4:52 pm |
  20. Dyslexic doG

    creationism is factually incorrect and no amount of talking about it can make it truth.

    2 + 2 ≠ 5

    It never has, it doesn't now, and it never will. YOU come along and say that 2 + 2 = 5. I say it does not. You say it does, I say it equals 4. You say it doesn't – I say 2 + 2 ≠ 5. You say it does, I say it doesn't. The argument/war goes on for years.

    NOW you come along and say "Let's COMPROMISE!"

    Ya know what? 2 + 2 ≠ 5

    And ya know what else? Your "compromise" of 2 + 2 = 4½ doesn't work, either.

    2 + 2 ≠ 5 It doesn't, and I don't have to RESPECT your belief that it does. You're wrong, I'm SAYING you're wrong, I'm telling you to your FACE you're wrong, and if you teach it to your children, it should be considered child abuse. You're wrong, you should be shamed for believing it, and I'm willing to do it. I'm calling you an idiot and you are if you believe it.

    2 + 2 ≠ 5

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