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October 28th, 2013
03:56 PM ET

Terrorist attacks and deaths hit record high, report shows

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog co-editor

Washington (CNN) – As terrorism increasingly becomes a tactic of warfare, the number of attacks and fatalities soared to a record high in 2012, according to a new report obtained exclusively by CNN.

More than 8,500 terrorist attacks killed nearly 15,500 people last year as violence tore through Africa, Asia and the Middle East, according to the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism.

That’s a 69% rise in attacks and an 89% jump in fatalities from 2011, said START, one of the world’s leading terrorism-trackers.

Six of the seven most deadly groups are affiliated with al Qaeda, according to START, and most of the violence was committed in Muslim-majority countries.

The previous record for attacks was set in 2011 with more than 5,000 incidents; for fatalities the previous high was 2007 with more than 12,800 deaths.

Headquartered at the University of Maryland, START maintains the Global Terrorism Database, the most comprehensive source of unclassified information about terrorist attacks, with statistics dating to 1970.

START, one of 12 Centers for Excellence funded by the Department of Homeland Security, plans to release its full database in December but shared its early findings after a request by CNN.

This year is expected to outpace even 2012’s record high. There were 5,100 attacks in the first six months of 2013, said Gary LaFree, START’s director, and the wave of violence shows few signs of ebbing.

In recent weeks, Al-Shabaab, a militant group based in Somalia, attacked a mall in Nairobi, Kenya, leaving 67 dead; suicide bombers killed 81 at a church in Pakistan; and the Taliban took credit for killing two police officers with a car bomb in Afghanistan.

To find and tally attacks like those, START's computers comb through 1.2 million articles from 50,000 media outlets each month with an algorithm to help identify and eliminate redundancies. Its 25-member staff then studies, categorizes and counts each attack.

START's definition of terrorism closely mirrors that of the State Department and other experts. To be counted as an act of terror, an incident has to be an intentional act or threat by a "non-state actor" that meets two of these three criteria:

• It was aimed at attaining a political, economic, religious or social goal.

• It was intended to coerce, intimidate or convey a message to a larger group.

• It violated international humanitarian law by targeting non-combatants.

Part of the observed increase in 2012 may be due to the fact that START has improved its data collection methods and is better than ever at finding and categorizing terrorism, LaFree said. But he said the dramatic rise is not just a matter of having better data.

“We are convinced that a big chunk of this is real change in the world,” LaFree said. “We’ve seen a fairly steep upward trajectory in the total of terrorist attacks and fatalities worldwide.”

Outside of small dips in 2004 and 2009, the number of attacks has steadily increased in the past decade, according to START. The upward trend increases the likelihood that 2012’s numbers are not an aberration, LaFree said.

Counterterrorism experts not affiliated with START also said attacks appear to be occurring with increasing frequency.

“There’s just a lot of killing going on along sectarian and religious lines,” said Daniel Benjamin, coordinator for counterterrorism at the State Department from 2009 to 2012. “And that’s a worrisome thing.”

The reasons behind the rise are complex, experts say:

• Weak and unstable states and corrupt or ineffective governments.

• Poverty and high unemployment, particularly among young men.

• Access to more lethal weaponry and increasing use of tactics like suicide bombings capable of killing scores of bystanders.

• A spike in sectarian tensions between Sunni and Shiite Muslims, where ancient grudges give rise to modern massacres.

• The increasing use of terrorism as a tactic in war.

“The distinction between the front line and home front has largely been erased as terrorism has become a growing feature of contemporary warfare,” said Brian Michael Jenkins, a senior adviser at the RAND Corp. and the founder of its counterterrorism program.

But Jenkins also cautioned that “terrorism” is notoriously difficult to define, and the increase in attacks does not necessarily mean the United States is “losing the war on terror.” He said it could just reflect a shift in strategy among Syrian rebels and Afghani radicals, for example.

Still, experts say the apparent increase in civilian casualties is alarming.

Gone are the days when terrorist groups like the Irish Republican Army or Italy’s Red Brigade would try to keep casualties low by issuing warnings, LaFree said.

“If you’re a terrorist group now and you want to get your message out,” he said, “the more people you kill, the more ‘successful’ you’ll be.”

Sectarian attacks - such as the pitched battles between Sunni and Shiite Muslims in Iraq, Syria and Pakistan - tend to be disproportionately deadly, said Martha Crenshaw, an expert at Stanford University and a START board member.

“Sadly, it seems to be increasingly acceptable in certain belief systems to kill as many members of the other religious community as possible,” she said. “Moral restraints seem to be eroding.”

Bombings and explosions were used in 58% of terrorist attacks in 2012, but it wasn’t always this way. In fact, START’s data also show a dramatic global shift in terrorist tactics and hot spots.

In the 1970s, most attacks were committed with guns and occurred in Western Europe. In the 1980s, Latin America saw the most terrorist acts. Beginning with the 1990s, South Asia, North Africa and the Middle East has seen steadily rising number of attacks, a trend that has accelerated in recent years.

Although terrorism touched 85 countries last year, just three - Pakistan, Iraq and Afghanistan - suffered more than half of 2012’s attacks (55%) and fatalities (62%).

In January, Sunni suicide bombers attacked scores of Shiite pilgrims in Iraq, killing at least 73. In February, a car bomb outside a café in Mogadishu, Somalia, left 15 dead. In March, a bombing in Thailand killed 14 and injured 340 in a commercial district.

Just eight private U.S. citizens died in attacks outside the United States in 2012, all in Afghanistan, according to the State Department. In the United States, seven people died in 11 terrorist attacks last year, six of them in a shooting at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin.

Despite the death of Osama bin Laden and capture of other key al Qaeda leaders, the group has exported its brand of terrorism to other militant Muslims, according to START and other counterterrorism experts.

“We’ve had success in stopping al Qaeda central,” LaFree said. “But we have been unsuccessful in stopping the message.”

Afghanistan’s Taliban was by far the deadliest group in 2012, when it launched 525 attacks that killed 1,842 people.

The second deadliest group was Nigeria’s Boko Haram, a jihadist group that orchestrated 364 attacks last year that killed 1,132 people.

The next most deadly were al Qaeda in Iraq, the Communist Party of India-Maoist, Somalia’s Al-Shabaab, al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula and Pakistan’s branch of the Taliban.

Rhonda Shore, a spokesperson for the State Department's Bureau of Counterterrorism, said she hadn't seen START's latest numbers and couldn't comment on the report. But she offered a staunch defense of the Obama administration’s approach to al Qaeda.

“We have made great progress in our efforts to disrupt, dismantle and defeat the larger al Qaeda organization in recent years,” she said.

“However,” she said, al Qaeda and its affiliates “continue to present a serious threat to the United States and its interests, and we must remain vigilant as we consider the range of tools and actions available to disrupt this threat.”

In April, START compiled a separate report for the State Department that counts fewer attacks (6,771) and fatalities (11,098) in 2012 than its own report because the U.S. government uses slightly different criteria to define terrorism.

Those lower numbers still represent an all-time yearly high in the number of attacks, according to START’s database.

Despite top terrorist groups’ affiliation - sometimes tenuous - with al Qaeda, some do not fit the mold created by its former head, bin Laden, and current leader, Ayman al-Zawahri, said Benjamin, the former State Department counterterrorism coordinator.

Bin Laden was motivated by an apocalyptic vision, Benjamin said, and wanted to spark a global war between Christians and Muslims.

The power struggles in many Muslim countries, on the other hand, are driven as much by political as religious concerns, according to Benjamin and other terrorism experts.

“Al-Shabaab, for example, is a fractious and disorganized group,” he said, “and the overwhelming majority of its foot soldiers don’t care about al Qaeda. They are just fighting to stay alive.”

And while most terrorism in 2012 was committed in Muslim-majority countries, LaFree and other experts cautioned against viewing Islam itself as inherently violent.

“Not so long ago, terrorism was centered in Western Europe and Latin America,” LaFree said. “It moves. And, unfortunately, it has moved into the Muslim world right now.”

Like Benjamin, Rizwan Jaka, a Muslim leader based in Northern Virginia, said that political - not religious - motivations lay behind many acts of terrorism.

“It isn’t like they woke up and said 'I’m a Muslim; I’m going to go kill someone in a shopping mall,' ” Jaka said. “In their twisted mind, this is political retaliation.”

Still, American Muslims are working to reduce Sunni-Shiite tensions, said Jaka, a board member of the Islamic Society of North America.

The Fiqh Council of North America, an influential group that issues rulings based on Sharia, or Islamic law, released a fatwa endorsed by dozens of Muslims in 2005 categorically condemning terrorism.

More recently, the Islamic Society of North America has met with African and Middle Eastern leaders to urge them to protect the rights of religious minorities and discourage terrorism.

In September, Sunni and Shiite leaders meeting in Washington announced an agreement to set aside differences and address the “dire situation of unrest, destruction, genocide and refugees” in many predominantly Muslim countries.

“All Muslims are one nation, even if the schools of thought are diverse,” the scholars’ declaration said. “Such diversity is a source of intellectual enrichment and should not be the cause of accusations of disbelief, murder, and the desecration of sanctities.”

- CNN Belief Blog Editor

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    November 6, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
  2. Infidel

    Right from the muslim pig's mouth himself. (Source: Bukhari:V4B52N220):

    "Allah's Apostle (mohammad) said, 'I have been made victorious with TERROR."

    GOT ISLAM??

    November 4, 2013 at 4:09 pm |
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    November 3, 2013 at 6:36 pm |
  4. nubiustechnologies

    Dear Infidel,

    I read your all your posts with much amusement,

    a kafir, sometimes translated as 'infidel', comes from the word kafara, it means to cover up,

    in a religious context, it means to cover up the light within your heart, to hide the truth [after you know it]

    I can't call you that, but you named yourself infidel,

    What is so insane about surrendering to God? [ie being a 'Muslim'].

    We bow down to the God of Abraham, because we love him, its something you wouldn't understand

    As for science, I wouldn't want to humiliate you, but go look who's doing the Ph.d level science research in America

    this is my dads Ph.d thesis,

    Growth and Characterization of Copper INDIUM(1-X) Gallium(x) SELENIUM(2) and Copper Indium SULFUR(2Y) SELENIUM(2-2Y) Semiconductor Alloys and Evaluation of Their Electrochemical Solar Cells in IODINE(3)ION/IODIDE-ELECTROLYTE

    http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1991PhDT........66A

    Dr Abid, Abid means 'worshipper'

    Now let me teach you something,

    mantiq = logic
    adab = morals

    you know science? where does the word chemistry even come from? al kimiya, guess were merlin our medieval european wizard learned alchemy!

    yes the same Baghdad, our US government dropped God knows how many bombs, completely destroying the country, guess what though,

    Islamic history is longer than 200 years, the Mongols once came thru Baghdad, they destroyed it too, the battery was discovered there way before galavani did his experiments, look it up your self [Baghdad battery]

    you know what happened with the barbaric Mongols? They liked Islamic culture so much that they converted to Islam. It was the first times conquering race adopted the culture of the invaded

    Now i'll give you some credit, you are right, the current state of 'islamic' world is pretty bad

    but why?

    Islamic would mean, in accordance to Divine Law [Shariah], the principle of which is JUSTICE

    NO COUNTRY IN THE WORLD IS CURRENTLY FOLLOWING Divine Law,

    they all have some form of man made idiotocracy, whether, arab communist [guise of Islamic militancy], colonial puppet system, IMF beggar system, cia friend king system, anarchy

    November 3, 2013 at 8:52 am |
    • Infidel

      In a nutshell, It is plain that you "moderate" and those "not muslim enough" muslims are in a very tough spot.

      If you publically renounce all of the words of hate in your quran instructing "good" muslims to convert, enslave, tax (jizya) and/or fight, then they will have to deal with the "true" muslims who have no use for 1.) use infidels and, 2.) those that are "not muslim enough".

      To denouce ISLAM publically (as "moderate" muslims should), would result in threats (ruling by fatwa) by those that follow islam as the koran clearly instructs.

      We can only hope these people join the 21st century and find islam inconsistent with science, logics, human rights, women’s rights, and ethics.

      This is a reason why "true" islamic countries are trying to crack down on the internet and other avenues of information that threaten all of the misgivings that have been pounded (banging their heads 5X’s per day) into these people's poor heads for the last 1,400 years.

      November 3, 2013 at 9:04 am |
      • Intisarul Islam

        Don't you ever get tired of posting the same LIES over and over again. Nowhere in the Quran does it tell Muslims to go out and kill, convert, or enslave non-Muslims. The "infidels" the Quran tells Muslims to fight are the Pagans of Mecca who were killing off the Muslims at the time.

        November 3, 2013 at 5:18 pm |
        • Ted

          At least you admit that the instructions to do violence are in that nasty book.

          November 4, 2013 at 10:38 am |
        • Infidel

          "Self Defense" MUSLIM pig feces...really??

          The myth of MUSLIMS KILLING only in "self-defense" is easily disproved from the accounts of their self proclaimed terrorist mohammad’s own life as recorded in Islam’s "sacred" (cough cough) texts with which today's MUSLIM terrorists are only too familiar.

          Mohammad’s career of killing began with raids on merchant caravans traveling between Syria and Mecca. His men would usually sneak up on unsuspecting drivers and kill those who defended their goods. There was NO SELF-DEFENSE self-involved here at all. This was old-school armed robbery and murder – sanctioned by their their hate filled Allah and according to the terrorist mohammad, who also demanded a 20% of the loot.

          The very first battle that mohammad fought was at Badr, when a Meccan army of 300 was sent out to protect the caravans from MUSLIM terrrorist raids. The Meccans did not threaten mohammad, and (turning this Muslim myth on its ear) only fought in supposedly SEL-DEFENSE after they were attacked by the MUSLIMS. Following the battle, the terrorist and pedophile mohammad established the practice of executing surrendered captives – something that would be repeated on many other occasions and actions that inspire MUSLIMS even to this day!

          The significance of this episode can hardly be overstated, because it lies at the very beginning of the long chain of Muslim violence that eventually passed right through the heart of America on 9/11/01 (the second MUSLIM attack of the WTC).

          The Muslims were not being threatened by those whom they attacked, and certainly not by those whom they had captured. They staged aggressive raids to eventually provoke war, just as al-Qaeda attempts to do in our time.

          Muslims try to justify this early violence by claiming that mohammad and his followers “suffered persecution” at the hands of the Meccans in an earlier episode, in which mohammad was evicted from the city of Mecca and had to seek refuge at Medina. But even the worst of this persecution did not rise to the level of killing. The only Muslim to have died in Mecca was the elderly mother of a Muslim, and she was said to have been overcome by stress.

          Even mohammad’s own men evidently questioned whether they should be pursuing and killing people who did not pose a threat to them, since it seemed to contradict earlier, more passive teachings. To convince them, mohammad passed along a timely revelation from Allah stating that “the persecution of Muslims is worse than slaughter [of non-Muslims]” (Sura 2:191). This verse established the tacit principle that the authority of MUSLIMS are of higher value even than the very lives of others. There is no larger context of morality against which acts are judged. The only thing that matters is how an event impacts or benefits Muslims.

          Told you before, history tells us that under the terrorist, pedophile and self proclaimed prophet mohammad, slaves and poets were executed, captives were beheaded, and adulterers were put into the ground and stoned. None of these were done during the heat of battle or necessitated by self-defense. To this day, Islamic law mandates death for certain crimes such as blasphemy and apostasy.

          Following his death, mohammad’s terrorist followers then stormed what was the Christian world – taking the Middle East, North Africa and parts of Europe. They attacked and conquered to the East as well, including Iran, Afghanistan and well into the Indian sub-continent.

          Few, if any, of these campaigns involved the pretense of your SELF DEFENSE pig feces. They were about JIHAD. You know it, It know it, and when people open their eyes to the cult ideology called ISLAM, they will see it too!

          November 4, 2013 at 12:31 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          I see you're touting your ignorance once more. When Muhammad was still in Mecca, the Meccans killed SEVERAL of Muhammad's followers – not just one as you claim. The Meccans also payed merchants 10 times the amount of the price of food to make sure that they would not sell food to Muslims so that they would starve. The Meccans also tired to kill Muhammad many times, but failed. It was in response to this that Muhammad fled with some of his followers, and when he fled, the Meccans confiscated the properties of all the Muslims. The Battle of Badr started when Muhammad tried to attack the caravan that was carrying the property of HIS FOLLOWERS – he was just trying to get back his followers's belongings. I am pretty sure that if someone started persecuting your fellow Rednecks and started confiscating their properties, forcing you guys to flee, you would try to get back at those people as well. If there had been no persecution, there would have been no war with the Meccans. Since the fighting was in response to persecution, it was justified. The verse EXPLICITLY SAYS TO FIGHT IN SELF DEFENSE. It says "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed. Allah does not like transgressors."(2 190). This does NOT say anything about the "authority of Muslims" "being higher than the lives" of others as you claim – it merely says to fight back when you are being persecuted.

          Also, why are you still going with the myth of Muhammad being a pedophile? Are you saying it based on the myth that Aisha was 9? If so, you overlook the inherent contradictions in the claim. According to the same sources that claim she was 9, Aisha was said to have participated in the Battle of Badr in 624, at the age of 15, making her 14 at the age of her marriage at 623 – NOT 6 or 9. Also, Aisha accepted Islam 12 years BEFORE her marriage to Muhammad, making her AT LEAST in her mid teens at the time of her marriage. Furthermore, sources claim that Aisha's sister, who was 10 years older than her, was born in 595, making Aisha's birth at 605, making her 18 at the time of consummation. Finally, 10 out of the 11 of Muhammad's wives were either close to his age, or older than him; if he really were a pedophile, this would NOT be the case – you would expect more child brides, which DID NOT happen, making the claim that Aisha was 9 stick out like a sore thumb.

          As for your myth that Muhammad killed poets: If by poets, you are referring to Uqba bin Abu Muayt and Al Nadr bin al-Harith, they were both executed for taking part in the Battle of Badr, not for being poets and not during peacetime.

          As for the Muslim empire: there was nothing wrong with building empires in the 7th century. As a matter of fact, your fellow white people were creating empires and dominating and exploiting the world until the mid 20th century, and I don't hear you condemning them.

          Also, most Muslim nations do NOT have any stoning policy anymore. If you want to hear about stoning, open up a Bible. Furthermore, 99.9999% of Islamic law is just the INTERPRETATION and OPINION of INDIVIDUAL JUDGES. Their decrees are NOT binding.

          November 4, 2013 at 7:24 pm |
  5. Infidel

    We need to come to understand and then boldly condemn the real enemy: Islam. Not this mindlessness called the “War on Terror” as we all know that terror is simply a tactic preferred by “good” and devoted muslims! (the “who”?).

    We also need to call a sp@de, a sp@de! The terrorists haven't corrupted their religion, Islam has corrupted them. The religion of “surrender and submission” cannot survive an open and honest discussion of its convoluted and foolish scriptures, its perverted self-proclaimed terrorist prophet, or its deceitful and demented god they call allah.

    When Western leaders become unified and resolute in their hostility to Islam's violent and ungodly beginnings, as well as keep the free-flow of information available (i.e., the internet, media, etc.), Muslims will hopefully flee the religion because they will be horrified by its endorsement of terrorism, mass murder, slave trading, plunder, kidnapping, and r#pe.

    Second…we need to become energy independent and not buy one more barrel of OPEC crude. This will drastically stop the manufacture of Islamic terrorists. Since there has never been a viable economy in any Islamic nation, since tyranny is expensive, and since without tyranny there is no indoctrination, by cutting off the crude spigot, every Islamic regime will fall…and with them so will Islamic terrorism.

    It is no secret...The Islamic terrorist organizations and countries are all maintained by the funds they receive directly or indirectly from that OPEC black ooze. We need to shut that valve off!

    November 2, 2013 at 1:23 am |
    • Infidel

      Finally! It took!! I tried to post per your polite request "without any ad hominems" and get to the point. Sorry for the delay. It took about 8 tries, but I believe I answered your question of "what should we do?"

      BTW – – Just saw the movie "Captain Philips" and loved it! At least our Naval Seals know how to deal with MUSLIM pirates just like President Thomas Jefferson did when he sent our newly formed Marines "...to the shores of Tripoli" (part of the US Marine Hyme) to deal with...wait for it...wait for it...MUSLIM pirates!

      3 head shots, 3 kills...enjoy muslim paradise you Somali MUSLIM pirates!

      November 2, 2013 at 1:31 am |
    • Infidel

      Actually...a moderated debate was held awhile back discussing asking, "Is Islam a religion of peace?" And then after the debate, the audience was polled and you can see the results yourself!

      See it here on You Tube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh34Xsq7D_A

      When this topic is discussed OPENLY and NOT under the threat of freakin muslims threatening and KILLNG you, it will open your eyes.

      November 2, 2013 at 9:45 am |
    • Night reader

      Thank you.
      The US will never condemn a religion. That's the way it is. It's not about appeasing a religion one hates; it's about protecting the religions one likes. Remember, what can be done legally to one group can be applied to another.
      I agree about America's independence from foreign oil.
      Actually, I embrace withdrawing from the ME completely. And I mean, COMPLETELY. If we stay out of their territory, the will not have further incentive to attack ours.

      November 2, 2013 at 11:45 pm |
      • Infidel

        Well there lies the problem...MUSLIMS have been attacking us since the birth of our United States because "good" and devoted muslims really believe it is their obligation to do so! When Thomas Jefferson dispatched our Marines "...to the shores of Tripoli" to deal with MUSLIM terrorists, he finally realized that you have to fight and KILL these animals instead of try to appease them! That's right...nearly 25% of our federal budget in the year1800 was used to PAY OFF MUSLIM terrorists so they would not attack and enslave our merchant sea men.

        But let's move ahead...In the past 40 plus years, the US has been attacked not necessarily by a country, but by islamic radicals.

        Now, if the US is creating "more terrorists" I wanted to find out exactly at WHAT POINT this all occurred. Was it during the Iran crisis? the US barracks attack in lebanon? the first World trade bombing 1993 wherre "only" 6 were killed?, the US barracks attack in saudi arabia? or was it back to the days of the start of our country?

        It would be inept to just include the years of George W. Bush's presidency and exclude at least 30 previous years of history. By doing simple research, you will discover pages of terrorists attacks including bombings of airplaines, various executions of hundreds of Americans, hijackings of airplanes, etc. ALL due to ISLAMIC radicals!

        The findings are clear...for anyone to assume we are creating "more terrorists" NOW really needs to take a step back and do so more research!

        You will be surprised when you type the word "terrorist" on google as you will discover pages upon pages of news stories from all over the world describing numerous terrorists' attacks that occurred over decades.

        Are we creating "new terrorists"? After learning ample facts, one has to say NO.

        I simply believe the world is only starting to pay MORE attention to terrorism NOW, thus giving the perception that all of a sudden "more terrorists" are killing and attacking. As an example, I think a lot of us turned a blind eye to the bombing of our US soldier's barracks in lebanon, 1983, as they were conducting peace operations.

        SURELY, TOO MANY PEOPLE FORGOT ABOUT THE FIRST WORLD TRADE CENTER BOMBING OF 1993. Oh wait... those don't count, right?

        Face reality from ISLAM, this is nothing new!

        November 3, 2013 at 12:59 am |
        • Afternoon reader

          Yes, and you did not address my post at all. Therefore, I have to conclude that you're not interested in any discoursed concerning the subject , but just want to complain incessantly about Muslims. And although that is your right, your over-the-top hyperbole accomplishes nothing.
          Lather, rinse, repeat. No answers, just complaints.

          November 6, 2013 at 4:53 pm |
  6. Afternoon reader

    Reposted from below, as I received no answer; maybe it wasn't seen.

    Infidel:

    Without any ad hominems, I think the questions are valid, albeit slightly modified:

    What do you propose the US does? Do you have a solution that can be used against Muslims that couldn’t be used against Christians in this country?

    I hardly think that Islam is going away any time soon, in spite of your data.

    I have read page after page of your posts; I have yet to see you posit any viable solution. Since it is obvious that you have spent a great deal of time studying Islam, what should be done?

    November 1, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
    • Infidel

      Tried to post my reply, but I guess muslim appeasers have gotten me banned – OH well

      November 1, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
      • Evening reader

        Really? I find that hard to believe since you have managed to post copious amounts of information on Islam already with no problem. You have just posted; you're obviously not banned. Try again, please?

        November 1, 2013 at 7:33 pm |
        • Infidel

          I am telling you...I formulate my respone in WORD (so people can't attack my spelling) and then post. my last one will not post!

          November 1, 2013 at 7:42 pm |
        • Evening reader

          Re-word it. That shouldn't be so hard since you already have it on WORD. I am interested.

          November 1, 2013 at 9:49 pm |
        • Reston Jeff

          Yeah, suuuuuure. I'm buying that. Nah, I was right in the first place. You're an Islamaphobe with no answers.

          November 1, 2013 at 11:35 pm |
      • Joseph Goebbels

        ...has nothing on our Infidel. Not "ad hominem", just the truth. :)

        November 1, 2013 at 7:47 pm |
      • fyi

        Infidel
        "Tried to post my reply, but I guess muslim appeasers have gotten me banned – OH well"

        Google "CNN Belief Blog word filter hints" - find the list... and quit your pouting.

        November 1, 2013 at 11:47 pm |
        • Infidel

          Sorry for the pout. It wouldn't be the first time muslims have gotten me banned because they could not address their cult ideology in an open forum and it would be the last.

          I apologize for the pout. My bad!

          November 2, 2013 at 1:34 am |
      • Reality # 2

        • The moderators of this blog have set up a secret forbidden word filter which unfortunately not only will delete or put your comment in the dreaded "waiting for moderation" category but also will do the same to words having fragments of these words. For example, "t-it" is in the set but the filter will also pick up words like Hitt-ite, t-itle, beati-tude, practi-tioner and const-tution. Then there are words like "an-al" thereby flagging words like an-alysis and "c-um" flagging acc-umulate or doc-ument. And there is also "r-a-pe", “a-pe” and “gra-pe”, "s-ex", and "hom-ose-xual". You would think that the moderators would have corrected this by now considering the number of times this has been commented on but they have not. To be safe, I typically add hyphens in any word that said filter might judge "of-fensive".

        • Make sure the web address does not have any forbidden word or fragment.

        Sum Dude routinely updates the list of forbidden words/fragments.

        Two of the most filtered words are those containing the fragments "t-it" and "c-um". To quickly check your comments for these fragments, click on "Edit" on the Tool Bar and then "Find" on the menu. Add a fragment (without hyphens) one at a time in the "Find" slot and the offending fragment will be highlighted in your comments before you hit the Post button. Hyphenate the fragment(s) and then hit Post. And remember more than one full web address will also gain a "Waiting for Moderation".
        Zeb’s alphabetical listing

        o “bad letter combinations / words to avoid if you want to get past the CNN "awaiting moderation" filter:
        Many, if not most, are buried within other words, so use your imagination.
        You can use dashes, spaces, or other characters to modify the "offending" letter combinations.
        --–
        ar-se.....as in Car-se, etc.
        ba-stard
        co-ck.....as in co-ckatiel, co-ckatrice, co-ckleshell, co-ckles, lubco-ck, etc.
        co-on.....as in rac-oon, coc-oon, etc.
        cu-m......as in doc-ument, accu-mulate, circu-mnavigate, circu-mstances, cu-mbersome, cuc-umber, etc.
        cu-nt.....as in Scu-ntthorpe, a city in the UK famous for having problems with filters...!
        do-uche
        ef-fing...as in ef-fing filter
        ft-w......as in soft-ware, delft-ware, swift-water, etc.
        fu-ck......!
        ho-mo.....as in ho-mo sapiens or ho-mose-xual, ho-mogenous, etc.
        ho-rny....as in tho-rny, etc.
        jacka-ss...yet "ass" is allowed by itself.....
        ja-p......as in j-apanese, ja-pan, j-ape, etc.
        ji-sm
        koo-ch....as in koo-chie koo..!
        nip-ple
        pi-s......as in pi-stol, lapi-s, pi-ssed, therapi-st, etc.
        pr-ick....as in pri-ckling, pri-ckles, etc.
        ra-pe.....as in scra-pe, tra-peze, gr-ape, thera-peutic, sara-pe, etc.
        se-x......as in Ess-ex, s-exual, etc.
        sh-@t.....but shat is okay – don't use the @ symbol there.
        sh-it
        sl-ut
        sn-atch
        sp-ic.....as in disp-icable, hosp-ice, consp-icuous, susp-icious, sp-icule, sp-ice, etc.
        ti-t......as in const-itution, att-itude, ent-ities, alt-itude, beat-itude, etc.
        tw-at.....as in wristw-atch, nightw-atchman, etc.
        va-g......as in extrava-gant, va-gina, va-grant, va-gue, sava-ge, etc.
        who-re....as in who're you kidding / don't forget to put in that apostrophe!
        wt-f....also!!!!!!!

        There are more, some of them considered "racist", so do not assume that this list is complete.
        -–
        Allowed words / not blocked at all:
        anal
        anus
        ass
        boob
        crap
        damn
        execute
        hell
        kill
        masturbation
        murder
        penis
        pubic
        raping (ra-pe is not ok)
        shat (sh-@t is not ok)
        sphincter
        testes
        testicles

        The CNN / WordPress filter also filters your EMAIL address and NAME as well – so you might want to check those.

        November 2, 2013 at 12:09 am |
        • Infidel

          Good to know! I think the word r-a-p-e set off the filters as this practice was endorsed by the terrorist mohammad after he looted and terrorized. Of course Muslims still believe this to be "self defense". Really...

          It is true...after military conquests (that muslims still call "self defense), the terrorist muhammad would dole out captured women as war prizes to his men. In at least one case, he advocated that they be r-a-p-ed in front of their husbands!!

          Captured women were made into s-ex slaves by the very men who killed their husbands and brothers.

          There are at least 3 quranic verses in which their allah makes it clear that a Muslim MASTER has full se-x-u-al access to his female slaves, yet there is NOT ONE that prohibits R-A-P-E.

          Also, in the very same quran (4:34), muslim men (if you can call them that) are given instructions HOW TO BEAT THEIR WIFE(s)!!!?!!!

          GOT ISLAM??

          November 2, 2013 at 1:44 am |
        • *

          test – spade

          November 2, 2013 at 1:50 am |
  7. Honey Badger Don't Care

    A fundamentalist christian is no different than a fundamentalist musIim. The only thing stopping the fundamentalist christians is our awesome secular government. If we were in a theocracy there would be nothing to stop them.

    November 1, 2013 at 10:06 am |
    • Intisarul Islam

      Very true. Rick Santorum probably has orgasms when he hears about people being stoned to death.

      November 1, 2013 at 10:11 am |
      • HotAirAce

        Do you think he waits for his wife, or does he spill his seed against Babble rules?

        November 1, 2013 at 2:46 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          He doesn't wait for his wife. He probably just spills it on all the rednecks around him.

          November 1, 2013 at 3:34 pm |
      • Infidel

        "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran, the Muslim book of scripture, should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth.”

        - Omar Ahmad, Chairman of CAIR

        GOT ISLAM?

        November 3, 2013 at 1:29 am |
        • Intisarul Islam

          He never said that.

          November 3, 2013 at 5:13 pm |
        • Infidel

          126 indictments have been handed out in his first two years by our super ultra-liberal Attorney General Eric Holder himself for terrorism.

          And guess what????? Each and every person indicted…has been…a…wait for it…wait for it…a MUSLIM!

          GOT ISLAM?? What a shock! 

          November 4, 2013 at 12:15 pm |
    • Infidel

      Sure...haven't seen any Christians or Jews strap bombs to themselves, recite Bible verses, and then yell out that "Jesus is great" before they KILL lately...as do MUSLIMS who do this nearly EVERY DAY of the freakin' year for their allah!!

      November 1, 2013 at 2:40 pm |
      • Intisarul Islam

        I think you missed the point. The reason why Rick Santorum and his sheep don't strap bombs to themselves and yell "Jesus is great" before killing everybody is because we have an effective government to hold these people back.

        November 1, 2013 at 3:09 pm |
        • Reality # 2

          Or maybe it is that Commandment that states: "Thou shall not kill or murder ! "

          November 1, 2013 at 3:26 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          Yeah, but you guys sure don't seem to follow his advise. Just look at the Old Testament.............

          November 1, 2013 at 3:32 pm |
        • Reality # 2

          As noted many times:

          Actually, it is the Old Testament that lists the god-approved atrocities:

          To wit:

          •Exodus 32: 3,000 Israelites killed by Moses for worshipping the golden calf.

          •Numbers 31: After killing all men, boys and married women among the Midianites, 32,000 virgins remain as booty for the Israelites. (If unmarried girls are a quarter of the population, then 96,000 people were killed.)

          •Joshua: ◦Joshua 8: 12,000 men and women, all the people of Ai, killed.
          ◦Joshua 10: Joshua completely destroys Gibeon ("larger than Ai"), Makeddah, Libnah, Lachish, Eglon, Hebron, Debir. "He left no survivors."
          ◦Joshua 11: Hazor destroyed. [Paul Johnson, A History of the Jews (1987), estimates the population of Hazor at ?> 50,000]
          ◦TOTAL: if Ai is average, 12,000 x 9 = 108,000 killed.

          •Judges 1: 10,000 Canaanites k. at Battle of Bezek. Jerusalem and Zephath destroyed.
          •Judges 3: ca. 10,000 Moabites k. at Jordan River.
          •Judges 8: 120,000 Midianite soldiers k. by Gideon
          •Judges 20: Benjamin attacked by other tribes. 25,000 killed.

          •1 Samuel 4: 4,000 Isrealites killed at 1st Battle of Ebenezer/Aphek. 30,000 Isr. k. at 2nd battle.
          •David: ◦2 Samuel 8: 22,000 Arameans of Damascus and 18,000 Edomites killed in 2 battles.

          ◦2 Samuel 10: 40,000 Aramean footsoldiers and 7,000 charioteers killed at Helam.
          ◦2 Samuel 18: 20,000 Israelites under Absalom killed at Ephraim.

          •1 Kings 20: 100,000 Arameans killed by Israelites at Battle of Aphek. Another 27,000 killed by collapsing wall.
          •2 Chron 13: Judah beat Israel and inflicted 500,000 casualties.
          •2 Chron 25: Amaziah, king of Judah, k. 10,000 from Seir in battle and executed 10,000 POWs. Discharged Judean soldiers pillaged and killed 3,000.
          •2 Chron 28: Pekah, king of Israel, slew 120,000 Judeans

          •TOTAL: That comes to about 1,283,000 mass killings specifically enumerated in the Old Testament/Torah.

          The New Testament has only one major atrocity, that of god committing filicide assuming you believe in this Christian mumbo jumbo. Said atrocity should be enough to vitiate all of Christianity.

          November 1, 2013 at 3:35 pm |
        • Reality # 2

          As noted man times:

          Putting the kibosh on all religion in less than ten seconds: Priceless !!!

          • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Abraham i.e. the foundations of Judaism, Christianity and Islam are non-existent.

          • As far as one knows or can tell, there was no Moses i.e the pillars of Judaism, Christianity and Islam have no strength of purpose.

          • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion. Christianity partially fails.

          • There was no Easter i.e. Christianity completely fails as a religion.

          • There was no Moroni i.e. Mormonism is nothing more than a business cult.

          • Sacred/revered cows, monkey gods, castes, reincarnations and therefore Hinduism fails as a religion.

          • Fat Buddhas here, skinny Buddhas there, reincarnated/reborn Buddhas everywhere makes for a no on Buddhism.

          • A constant cycle of reincarnation until enlightenment is reached and belief that various beings (angels?, tinkerbells? etc) exist that we, as mortals, cannot comprehend makes for a no on Sikhism.

          Added details available upon written request.

          A quick search will put the kibosh on any other groups calling themselves a religion.

          e.g. Taoism

          "The origins of Taoism are unclear. Traditionally, Lao-tzu who lived in the sixth century is regarded as its founder. Its early philosophic foundations and its later beliefs and rituals are two completely different ways of life. Today (1982) Taoism claims 31,286,000 followers.

          Legend says that Lao-tzu was immaculately conceived by a shooting star; carried in his mother's womb for eighty-two years; and born a full grown wise old man. "

          November 1, 2013 at 3:37 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          No, I agree with these points – I am just pointing out how people like that guy who calls himself "infidel" are making up quotes from the Quran, and not giving the proper context. It's fine to criticize religion, as long as you base it on facts. In this case, your post is fine.

          November 1, 2013 at 3:53 pm |
        • Reality # 2

          Oops, make that "as noted many times".

          And then there is this:

          AND THE INFAMOUS ANGELIC CONS CONTINUE TO WREAK STUPIDITY UPON THE WORLD

          Joe Smith had his Moroni. (As does M. Romney)

          "Latter-day Saints like M. Romney also believe that Michael the Archangel was Adam (the first man) when he was mortal, and Gabriel lived on the earth as Noah."

          Jehovah Witnesses have their Jesus /Michael the archangel, the first angelic being created by God;

          Mohammed had his Gabriel (this "tinker bell" got around).

          Jesus and his family had/has Michael, Gabriel, and Satan, the latter being a modern day demon of the demented. (As do BO and his family)(As do Biden and Ryan)

          The Abraham-Moses myths had their Angel of Death and other "no-namers" to do their dirty work or other assorted duties.

          Contemporary biblical and religious scholars have relegated these "pretty wingie/horn-blowing thingies" to the myth pile. We should do the same to include deleting all references to them in our religious operating manuals. Doing this will eliminate the prophet/profit/prophecy status of these founders and put them where they belong as simple humans just like the rest of us.

          November 1, 2013 at 3:39 pm |
        • Commenter

          Islam is at about where Christianity was when it was 1400 years old - a lot of killing to try to dominate. Of course, no bombs then. It's going to be tough to survive Islam's adolescence, though, with today's nasty weapons.

          November 2, 2013 at 2:11 am |
    • Infidel

      Really? For those who criticize Christians, white people, those of European descent etc... for even past issues such as slavery, I say you are right to an extent. There were indeed those who endorsed such things in the name of their religion. And yes...they are wrong too and SHOULD Be stopped.

      However...and believe me, I have not use for organized religion...but when you study religious texts as I have...was this what Jesus taught his followers in the New Testament (which abrugates the Old)?? No!

      And acknowledging an existence of a practice is not an endorsement of it. All man was made to be FREE from the beginning – that is why we are all given FREE will.

      If one is fair, please at least acknowledge the millions of other peoples of white, Christian and Jewish descent who were vehemently opposed to these immoral issues and set about (that is ACTION, not cheap lip service) putting such practices to an end.

      With respect to slavery as to the example I brought up, 100's of thousands of white, Christian and Jewish men died fighting to END that practice. So if one is fair and objective, please don't distill it down to something as bigoted as all Christian people are bad. To do so, is unbalanced and besmirchs the sacrifices those soldiers made for the freedom of ALL peoples…something you will NEVER see in the Muslim world!

      November 2, 2013 at 1:55 am |
      • Intisarul Islam

        Says the man in the pointy hood....................

        November 4, 2013 at 7:26 pm |
  8. AngryJew

    The biggest terrorist nations in the ME today are Israel and Saudi Arabia. Both keep good company.

    November 1, 2013 at 5:27 am |
    • Reality # 2

      Some added details:

      Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, the Filipino “koranics”and the Boston Marthon bombers.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      Continued below:

      November 1, 2013 at 7:54 am |
      • Reality # 2

        Israel-

        Its formation was approved by the UN in 1948. It should honor the original UN agreement and live within the described borders. Considering the hate generated by passages in the koran, erecting dividing walls between Muslims and Jews was a great idea and building should continue along the UN approved borders. UN forces should control these walls.

        And Jerusalem should be made into an international city under the control and protection of the UN.

        In the meantime, we need to come to grips with the flaws in the foundations of all religions.

        And another solution: Since neither the Palestinians or Jews have any historical claims to the land, an easy solution to the problem would be to have all the Muslims in the USA move to Israel and all the Jews in Israel move to the USA.

        November 1, 2013 at 8:00 am |
        • Intisarul Islam

          Palestinians have been living on the land for thousands of years, so they have every right to it. By the way, your solution to send all the Muslims here to Israel is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. You are obviously out of touch with reality, and you're sure not living up to your name.

          November 1, 2013 at 10:13 am |
        • Infidel

          I call the Muslims who use the "Palestinian" moniker "so-called" because the last Palestinian was killed in the 7th century B.C. by armies from today's Iran and Iraq. The name Palestina was coined by the Romans in 135 A.D. following Rabbi Akiba's failed Messianic revolt. T

          The Romans renamed land, killed a million Jews, banished the remaining Jews from the Judea, and then salted the land in response. Therefore, there is no such place as "Palestine" nor people called "Palestinians."

          The labels are simply used today in an effort to errantly convince the world that the Jewish homeland belongs to the Muslims who conquered it following their terrorist/pedophile muhammad's death in the late 7th century A.D..

          November 1, 2013 at 2:42 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          You are off in your history. Not everybody was killed in the 7th century BC, and some Jews were allowed to come back to Palestine afterwords. Most of the Palestinians are descended from some of those Jews who stayed behind, and eventually converted to Islam. It is consistent with DNA evidence which shows that Palestinians and Jews share a common ancestor from the last few thousand years.

          November 1, 2013 at 3:14 pm |
        • Reality # 2

          The ancient lands of Palestine and who were the first occupants?

          See: http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pgen.1003316

          November 1, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
        • Infidel

          How MUSLIMS in Palestine "fight":
          1.) Remove rockets that are hidden in schools and/or hospitals
          2.) Hide behind women & children.
          3.) Point these rockets at Jewish civilian centers
          4.) Yell out. "allahu akbar" (since you are KILLING for your cult ideology called ISLAM)
          5.) Launch rockets
          6.) Run back to schools and hospitals
          7.) BLAME Israel for all of your ills as you parade scared women & children
          8.) Go back to step #1

          November 2, 2013 at 2:05 am |
      • Intisarul Islam

        Yes Muhammad was illiterate – but so was just about everyone else at the time. By the way, do you think Jesus (if he existed) was literate? As for your claim that he was a "womanizer," do you base it on the fact that he had 11 wives? If so, you seem to ignore the fact that just about every other Arab pagan at the time also had a similar number of wives. The same goes for all the Old Testament guys, and the Christian kings of Europe (the just used to call them "mistresses")

        Did he have Hallucinations? Maybe. But the same goes for Jesus, Moses, Abraham, etc.

        Was he a Murder? No. He only fought battles against the Meccans in self-defense.

        What about the Terrorists today? They are just distorting Islam to fit their own political agendas.

        November 1, 2013 at 3:40 pm |
        • Reality # 2

          With respect to Mohammed:

          " It has been part of the Muslim’s belief, based on traditions, that Prophet Muhammad was illiterate. God says in verse 29:51 that the Quran itself is the only miracle of the prophet. By alleging illiteracy for him, traditional Muslims were trying to make the claim even "more miraculous," for a book of such literary quality was sent down through an illiterate man. "

          http://www.submission.org/illiteracy.html

          " Muhammad was born to the equivalent of a middle-class family. He was known as Al-Ameen, "the trustworthy" because of his spotless reputation in all his dealings. Islamic history records that Muhammad was illiterate, though some scholars argue that Muhammad is likely to have received some form of education, and point to his successful career as a merchant.

          When he grew up, he traveled with many caravans as an administrator whose responsibility was to see that the caravan arrived safely and with all goods intact. He did this throughout most of his working life.

          In 610 CE, Muhammad (now aged 40) reported that while he was sitting in a cave in the hills outside Makkah mediating, the angel Gabriel gave him a message from God. He was commanded to memorize all of his visions. Islamic historiography holds that since he was illiterate he could not write them down. He did so, and after reluctantly revealing his experiences to his wife Khadijah, he began to gain followers by the force and quality of the words he recited. By 615 CE, he had developed a large following in Makkah."

          http://www.fact-index.com/m/mu/muhammad_1.html

          See the Angel Cons previously noted:

          November 1, 2013 at 4:22 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          I know – I said Muhammad was illiterate in my post.......

          November 1, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
        • Reality # 2

          There is only one place in the NT that suggests Jesus could read i.e. Luke 4:16. This pa-ssage is not attested to in any other NT pa-ssage or in any other related doc-ument making it a later addition or poor translation as per most NT scholars' analyses.

          See also Professor Crossan and Professor Reed's book, Excavating Jesus, p. 30.

          See also Professor Bruce Chilton's commentary in his book, Rabbi Jesus, An Intimate Biography, pp 99-101- An excerpt:

          "What Luke misses is that Jesus stood in the synagogue as an illiterate ma-mzer in his claim to be the Lord's anointed".

          It is very unfortunate that Jesus was illiterate for it resulted in many gospels and epistles being written years after his death by non-witnesses. This resulted in significant differences in said gospels and epistles and with many embellishments to raise Jesus to the level of a deity to compete with Caesar myths.

          November 1, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
        • Infidel

          Oh Please! Your mohammad was a pedophile, r#apist, along with terrorist!

          He's the one that professed: Muslim means "one who submits and surrenders."

          According to your whacked quran, a “good” Muslim is someone who obeys allah's orders and follows mohammad's example. To understand these commands and to be aware of this example, go ahead and study mohammad's words and deeds that are presented in the Islam’s “holy” (cough-cough) texts like their Hadith, Sira, Ta'rikh, and quran.

          The moment you understand what your allah allegedly SAID and mohammad DID you will recognize that all “good” Muslims are actually bad people…to us infidels in the West. That is because your mohammad was a se-xual per-vert, thief, racist, slave trader, kidnapper, mass murderer, pedophile, r#apist and terrorist himself!!

          November 2, 2013 at 2:22 am |
        • Intisarul Islam

          Again, you have NOTHING to back up your claims. How was Muhammad a rapist? How was he a pedophile? Are you saying it based on the myth that Aisha was 9? If so, you overlook the inherent contradictions in the claim. According to the same sources that claim she was 9, Aisha was said to have participated in the Battle of Badr in 624, at the age of 15, making her 14 at the age of her marriage at 623 – NOT 6 or 9. Also, Aisha accepted Islam 12 years BEFORE her marriage to Muhammad, making her AT LEAST in her mid teens at the time of her marriage. Furthermore, sources claim that Aisha's sister, who was 10 years older than her, was born in 595, making Aisha's birth at 605, making her 18 at the time of consummation. Finally, 10 out of the 11 of Muhammad's wives were either close to his age, or older than him; if he really were a pedophile, this would NOT be the case – you would expect more child brides, which DID NOT happen, making the claim that Aisha was 9 stick out like a sore thumb.

          Also, where do you get that Muhammad was thief? Because he attacked caravans? If so, why don't you give the reasons WHY he attacked SPECIFIC caravans. Muhammad attacked ONLY the caravans that were doing business with the Meccans who were killing off the Muslims at the time. The caravan attacks were supposed to stop the Meccans from resupplying so that they could not kill any more civilians. So the attacking of the caravans was the 7th century version of a blockade.

          By the way, the Hadith are merely contradictory "biographies" of Muhammad written HUNDREDS of years after Muhammad died after being passed down orally for generations. This takes away all, or most of its historical credibility. The Hadith are also NOT mandatory to follow; as a matter of fact, Islam had existed for hundreds of years WITHOUT the Hadith (before it was written).

          When you say good Muslims follow the Quran, you are correct. However, you are WRONG when you say that the Quran advocates violence, mass murder, or terrorism. The Quran ONLY tells you to fight in self defense.

          November 2, 2013 at 6:21 pm |
        • Commenter

          Infidel,

          Well, ol' Moses was no saint either - murderer, warmonger, and liar, saying the "Lord" told him stuff.

          November 2, 2013 at 2:31 am |
        • Infidel

          Tabari IX:25 “By Allah, I did not come to fight for nothing. I wanted a victory over Ta’if so that I might obtain a slave girl from them and make her pregnant.” (sounds like r#pe to me!)

          Quran 40:67-40:73" Do you not see how those who dispute the revelation of God turn away from the right path? Those who have denied the Book and the message We sent through Our apostles shall realize the truth hereafter: when, with chains and shackles round their necks, they shall be dragged through scalding water and then burnt in the fire of Hell."

          Here the terrorist and pedophile self proclaimed prophet mohammed here explains what will happen to those people who choose NOT to follow his revelation "Quran"- a manual of plunder, r#pe and murder. So for people of other religions following scriptures other than Quran, Allah has pre-planned punishment. First they shall be dragged through scalding water with chains around their necks and then they will be burnt in the fire of Hell. Allah is truly merciful!!

          GOT ISLAM??

          November 3, 2013 at 1:08 am |
        • Intisarul Islam

          The Hadith are highly unreliable because they were written hundreds of years after Muhammad died, after being passed on and created by word of mouth for centuries. This kills any credibility it may have had.

          As for your quote from the Quran – sure it says that people who don't believe in god are going to hell, just like how Christians say the same thing about every else who's not Christian.

          November 3, 2013 at 5:06 pm |
      • Reality # 2

        But was Mohammed illiterate? Read the summary again. He was only "illiterate" to satisfy the Gabriel myth. Other facts dispute the illiteracy claim.

        November 2, 2013 at 12:13 am |
        • Infidel

          Or the claim of when MUSLIMS blow up and kill the innocent, they deem it as "self defense"...

          What pig's crap the cult ideology of ISLAM is!

          November 3, 2013 at 1:31 am |
      • Infidel

        You brought excellent points and historical facts...but watch muslims try to tell you that all that fighting and r-a-p-ing mohammad did as he gained more and more power were all simply because of "self defense"!!

        What nonsense!

        November 2, 2013 at 1:59 am |
  9. Reality # 2

    An easy and peaceful solution:

    From the studies of Armstrong, Rushdie, Hirsi Ali, Richardson and Bayhaqi––

    The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

    ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

    Are you ready?

    Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

    The First Five of the 77 Branches:

    "1. Belief in Allah"

    aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your self-cleansing neurons.

    "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

    Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

    "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

    A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

    "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

    Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

    Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

    Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

    "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings
    be upon him) alone."

    Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

    Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

    Unfortunately, there are not many Muslim commentators/readers on this blog so the "two-minute" cure is not getting to those who need it. If you have a Muslim friend, send him a copy and help save the world.

    Analogous steps are available at your request for deprogramming the myths of Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and Paganism..

    October 31, 2013 at 11:33 pm |
    • Reality # 2

      The above translated into Arabic at Google Translate:

      From Google Translate:

      حل سهل وسلمية :

      من الدراسات من أرمسترونغ ، رشدي ، هيرسي علي ، ريتشاردسون و البيهقي -–

      في خمس خطوات ل أبطل تأثير 1400 سنة من الأساطير الإسلامية :

      ( – خطوات اتخاذ أقل من دقيقتين لإنهاء – ببساطة مدهشة ، دقيقتين لإحلال السلام والعقلانية إلى أكثر من مليار فقدت النفوس لا تقدر بثمن !)

      هل أنت مستعد؟

      استخدام " الفروع الإسلامية 77 من " الإيمان " مجموعة الإمام البيهقي المترجمة كنقطة انطلاق . في ذلك، وهو ما يفسر الفضائل الأساسية التي تعكس صحيح " الإيمان " ( إيمان ) من خلال الآيات القرآنية ذات الصلة، و أحاديث نبوية . " أي ملخص لطيفة من المعتقدات القرآن والإسلامية .

      الخمسة الأولى من الفروع 77 :

      " 1 . الإيمان بالله "

      كما يعرف أيضا باسم الله ، الرب ، زيوس ، الرب ، الطبيعة الأم ، وما إلى ذلك يجب أن تضاف إلى الخلايا العصبية التطهير الذاتي الخاص .

      " 2 . إلى الاعتقاد بأن كل شيء غيرها مما كان الله غير موجود. بعد ذلك، الله سبحانه وتعالى خلق هذه الأشياء ، وبعد ذلك جاءوا إلى حيز الوجود . "

      التطور و الانفجار الكبير أو " غي ب G- NAB " ( عند بدء الكون لإعادة تدوير ) هي أكثر ترجيحا و ينبغي أن تدرج في " المندرجة " في سبيل الله إذا كنت لا تزال تشكل " بجمعية العقارات، tionist " .

      " 3 . إلى الاعتقاد في وجود الملائكة . "

      A بندا رئيسيا لتطهير الخلايا العصبية . الملائكة / دي VILS هي الإبداعات الأسطورية من الحضارات القديمة ، على سبيل المثال HITT خائبي ، لشرح / تعريف الأحداث الطبيعية ، والاتصالات مع آلهتهم ، والطيور الكبيرة ، والرياح المفاجئة ، وحماة خلال الليالي المظلمة ، وما إلى ذلك لا " ثينجيس افسح المجال ل جميلة / UG- LY " بزيارة أي وقت مضى أو تحدثت إلى محمد ، يسوع ، مريم أو يوسف أو جو سميث . اليوم سوف نصنف الملائكة كما F- airies و " القصدير كير تكون LLS " . تصنف الحديثة دو VILS مثل دي مونس هيئة اجتثاث mented .

      " 4 . إلى الاعتقاد بأن جميع الكتب السماوية التي تم إرسالها إلى الأنبياء مختلفة صحيحا . ومع ذلك ، وبصرف النظر عن القرآن ، كل الكتب الأخرى ليست صالحة بعد الآن . "

      ومن البنود الرئيسية في حذفها. لا يوجد كتب في ولاية روح السماء (إذا كان هناك واحد ) فقط حيث لم تعد هناك ملائكة لكتابة / نشر / توزيعها . القرآن ، OT ، NT وما هي ببساطة الكتب التي كتبت من قبل البشر للبشر .

      اخترعت الأنبياء من قبل الكتبة القديمة عادة للحفاظ على الجماهير غير المتعلمة في الخط. اليوم ونحن ندعو لهم فرز الأصوات لل تناغم .

      النبوءات كما invali مؤرخة من قبل الطبيعية / الله / الله الهدايا من الإرادة الحرة و المستقبل.

      " 5 . إلى الاعتقاد بأن جميع الأنبياء صحيحا . ومع ذلك ، ونحن مأمورون اتباع النبي محمد ( عليه الصلاة والسلام
      صلى الله عليه وسلم) وحده " .

      قضى محمد ثلاثين يوما " الصيام " (أسطورة رمضان) في كهف الساخن قبل أول اتصال له مع الله الملقب الخ الله عبر " ممتزوجات افسح المجال ل جميلة " . الحس السليم يتطلب حذف الخلايا العصبية من # 5 . # 5 هو أيضا المصدر الرئيسي لل الاسلامي VI- olence أي تحول محمد "سريع ، يحركها الجوع " hallu – cinations إلى واقع فظيع لغير المؤمنين .

      المشي هذه خمس خطوات ، ونحن نضمن الانتعاش الكامل من الطرق الإسلامية الخاصة بك! !

      للأسف ، لا توجد العديد من المعلقين مسلم / القراء على هذا بلوق لذلك " مدة دقيقتين " العلاج هو عدم الحصول على لأولئك الذين في حاجة إليها . إذا كان لديك صديق مسلم ، ترسل له نسخة و تساعد في إنقاذ العالم .

      تتوفر خطوات مماثلة في طلبك للحصول على deprogramming الأساطير المسيحية واليهودية والبوذية والهندوسية و الوثنية ..

      October 31, 2013 at 11:34 pm |
  10. HawkAlpha1

    @infidel – – LOVE reading your posts! Keep it up. I mean it...you are simply articulating what many of us already believe!

    As for the name calling you have endured – – i am sure you realized by now that this is your typical liberal tactic as they have NOTHING to counter you. Nothing!

    BTW – I have been to the middle east and infidel is 100% right! If you are not a muslim, these people look at you and treat you like dirt. If you are Jewish, these people really believe you are from "apes & pigs". Even their kids are taught this from day one! the US is the "great satan" to these people and yet, we allow them to come here! It is really nuts!

    It is a shame...but it IS what it IS. Infidel is right! We need more people like him to state the obvious.

    Now I will sit back and check in from time to time to see what other liberal mud they can throw at you. Keep up the good work and continue the fight against those that would rather stick their head in the sand.

    October 31, 2013 at 5:14 pm |
    • Infidel

      Thanks Hawk for the kind words. Appreciate your support!

      October 31, 2013 at 5:41 pm |
      • Intisarul Islam

        Ah! Nothing like the sight of m0r0ns standing up for their fellow m0r0ns.

        October 31, 2013 at 7:11 pm |
    • Intisarul Islam

      Lying is encoded in the Republican genome.

      October 31, 2013 at 7:20 pm |
      • Infidel

        You know mohammad, if just 20% of Muslims were "good" (devoted and whacked) ones, and thus were prone to terrorism, by committing 95% of the world's terrorist acts, they then are 3,000% more uncivil and violent than the rest of the earth's population!!I

        Now, it would be a disturbing trend worthy of the world's condemnation if good Muslims were 30% more lethal than others, but at 100 times that correlation, not condemning these animals is a moral catastrophe!!

        Butcontinue on with the name calling...you help make my point! :-)

        October 31, 2013 at 7:38 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          I hope you noticed that your post was all dependent on a big IF – namely, that IF 20% of the world's Muslims were terrorists, they would cause a lot of trouble. However, only a tiny, tiny, tiny percentage of "Muslims" are actually terrorists, which is supported by the fact that most of the terrorist acts are done by the same few organizations, and ALSO supported by the fact that the 57 Islamic nations in the world are NOT run by al-Qaeda, and ALSO supported by the fact that the US still exists (if a big chunk of Muslims were terrorists, the US would not exist).

          As for the "name calling": I am judging you based on the level of stupidity in your posts. You have nobody to blame for the "name calling" but yourself. Maybe if you would start using your brain (if you have one) I will stop calling you what you actually are – a m0r0n.

          November 1, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
        • Infidel

          Small % ??? I don't think so! The most logical way to determine the % of Muslims who are salafi/fundamentalists – a precondition to JIHAD – is to consider the most recent elections in Islamic countries.

          For example, the fundamentalist/terrorist Islamic group Hamas received 65% of the popular vote in "Palestine." The somewhat secular Fatah, at least by comparison to Hamas, won only 30% of the votes. You give these people a democratic vote and look what happens…they elect terrorists to govern them.

          You muslims appeasers love to bring up the “moderate” Islamic country of Turkey.

          While he was not popularly elected, Turkey's president, Ahmet Necdet Sezar, is a fundamentalist Muslim. Turkey's parliament, which selected him by a 70% majority, is formed as a result of a popular mandate and it is predominately comprised of fundamentalist Muslims.

          Turkey's Prime Minister, Recep Tayyip Erdogan, is the nation's most popular leader. BTW he is a convicted felon who believes: "Mosques are our barracks, domes are our helmets, minarets our bayonets, and believers our soldiers."

          He won a landslide victory back in 2002 – and Turkey is still considered to be the most “moderate” Islamic states. Oh Please!!

          GOT ISLAM??

          November 2, 2013 at 2:09 am |
        • Intisarul Islam

          Hamas won the elections in Gaza; the West Bank is run by Fatah. Also, Erdogan is actually more tolerant than most of the so called secular and "democratic" leaders of Turkey. The previous regimes would force their ideologies on the people, whereas Erdogan's government financed the reconstruction of Churches and allowed Christians to gather there (which was previously not allowed. He also expanded the rights of Kurds, the Roma, the Alevi, and Greek Orthodox. Also, by your logic, almost ALL Americans and Israelis would be terrorists and extremists as well; most of them support blowing up little kids with drones, and the Republican party wants to create a medieval style, white-supremacist theocracy in the United States. Likewise, Republicans are doing everything they can to keep minorities from voting, and justifying ra pe.

          November 2, 2013 at 6:42 pm |
  11. Infidel

    Did anybody notice that ALL six pictures of these most dangerous terrorists were all...wait for it...wait for it...MUSLIM??

    Gee – – who would have thought?

    October 31, 2013 at 9:05 am |
    • Intisarul Islam

      They are all Muslim? I thought the worlds most dangerous terrorists were George Bush and Barack Obama.

      October 31, 2013 at 7:21 pm |
      • Infidel

        Returning to our definitions, terrorism is a tactic; it is not an enemy. Terrorism is the "how," not the who or why. The "who" are good Muslims. The "why" is fundamental Islam.

        October 31, 2013 at 7:40 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          That was incoherent, and did not even touch my point.

          November 1, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
  12. Infidel

    Remember back in 2007 when the PEW Research Group reported that:

    "1 in 4 (26%) U.S. Young Muslims OK with Homicide Bombings Against Civilians."

    Come on people...what do you expect from this cult ideology called Islam?!?!

    And that is just for Muslims living HERE in this country...not some Islamic arm pit like the Middle East!

    And people still question if ISLAM is the problem when the evidence is clearly there!

    October 30, 2013 at 8:40 pm |
    • Maddy

      Post the link? I get that you hate Islam. Now can you shut up already? You've rambled on for 2 days now. You're bordering on the obsessive. Perhaps a cup of tea will calm you down?

      October 30, 2013 at 10:40 pm |
      • Infidel

        No surprise from this Muslim Madness which is the CAUSE of this world wide terrorism:

        "Strive hard against the unbelievers and the hypocrites and be unyielding to them; and their abode is hell, and evil is their destination." Quran 9:73

        Oh, the link: there are many including the very Liberal CBS News:

        http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-2835339.html

        October 31, 2013 at 8:07 am |
        • Intisarul Islam

          The infidels the Quran is referring to here are the Pagans of Mecca who were killing off Muslims at the time – NOT random non-Muslims.

          November 2, 2013 at 6:43 pm |
      • Infidel

        How about a PEW study of MUSLIMS that is more recent...and BTW, PEW is definitely NOT a conservative leaning pollster!

        Source: PEW Research 2013 survey of over 38,000 Muslims:

        Killing of the innocent in the name of ISLAM find: 40% of Palestinians in favor, 39% in favor in Afghanistan, 29% in Egypt (behold the “Arab Spring” nonsense) MUSLIMS favor these KILLINGS. Further, 18% of Muslims in Afghanistan and the Palestinian territories said such actions are “often” justified. (Got ISLAM??)

        Honor killings of women seen to have shamed their families find: 78% support this in Iraq, 76% support these “honor killings” in Afghanistan and 69% support this in Egypt (so much for the freakin’ “Arab Spring” madness).

        How about stoning women for adultery as punishment under Islamic Law? 89% of Paki’s support this madness, 85% in Afghanistan, 81% in Egypt and 58% in Iraq. “Only” 20% of Muslims surveyed advocate STONING women in southeastern Europe.

        How Muslims feel in one wants to convert (escape) their religion?: 79% of Afghans, 76% of Pakistanis and 42% of Iraqis support the DEATH penalty for such apostasy!

        Implementation of “Sharia” as the national law of the land? 99% support in Afghanistan, 91% in Iraq and 89% in Palestine. Egypt came in “low” at 74%. Behold the freakin’ “Arab Spring” Obama praised about!

        Muslims surveyed in South Asia and the Middle East-North Africa region are more likely than Muslims elsewhere to consider suicide bombing justified,” according to the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life, a survey of 38,000 Muslims in 39 countries across Europe, Asia, the Middle East and Africa. – BEHOLD ISLAM!!

        Yes – – ISLAM is the cause of this global world wide madness. Until we can truly call out this ideology for what it is, we will lose to this madness. Maybe not today...but these people are stepping up their game as the article proves.

        October 31, 2013 at 8:22 am |
        • Reston Jeff

          Seek some help from a qualified mental health professional re: your obvious obsession. We GET it. You are a islamaphobe. What do you propose the US does? You don't have an answer? Okay, proceed to post your data without a viable solution that couldn't be used AGAINST Christians in this country. For what is good for 1 religion is good for ALL religions. Get a grip, hysteric.

          October 31, 2013 at 4:07 pm |
        • Infidel

          Now, Now Reston Jeff – – – It isn't Islamophobia when these "good" muslims really ARE trying to kill you, is it?

          BTW – I do not fear being labeled an ‘Islamophobe.’ Winston Churchill was once accused of being a ‘Naziphobe’. Gee – – how did that work out??

          And instead of personal attacks, why don't you articulate your argument? But then again, I guess personal attacks is a argument of sorts...just to let you know I'm about 10 lbs overweight so you can use that against me next time you post against me! :-)

          October 31, 2013 at 4:15 pm |
        • Late night reader

          Without any ad hominems, I think the questions are valid, albeit slightly modified:

          What do you propose the US does? Do you have a solution that can be used against Muslims that couldn’t be used against Christians in this country?

          I hardly think that Islam is going away any time soon, in spite of your data.

          I have read page after page of your posts; I have yet to see you posit any viable solution. Since it is obvious that you have spent a great deal of time studying Islam, what should be done?

          November 1, 2013 at 1:39 am |
        • Intisarul Islam

          The views in those studies sound hell of a lot like the Republican party's positions

          November 2, 2013 at 6:53 pm |
    • Maddy

      Hitler would approve of your propagandic methods. Kudos.

      October 31, 2013 at 4:11 pm |
      • Infidel

        Oh really? Please tell me where I am in error???

        If you can't come to understand the religious motivations for their MUSLIM terrorist attacks, then what do you suggest we do?

        Stick your head in the sand?

        October 31, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          You're asking where you are in error? I answer: You're in error EVERYWHERE. You're the typical Tea Fartie maniac who would do anything to spew out lies to create fear and hysteria, while you keep trying to create your white-only Evangelical theocracy in the Redneck belt with Rick Santorum as your "supreme leader."

          October 31, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
    • Intisarul Islam

      Kind of like how 57% of Americans support killing little Pakistani kids with drones....................

      October 31, 2013 at 7:14 pm |
      • Infidel

        Islamic purists (those that follow ISLAM as mandated by their terrorist self proclaimed prophet) do not engage in such games that “Islam is of Peace”.

        Not only do they know that the verses of Jihad are more numerous and authoritative (abrogating any earlier verses of “peace”), they also hold their entire quran to be the eternal and literal word of Allah… and this is what often makes these animals so freakin' dangerous.

        GOT ISLAM?

        October 31, 2013 at 7:42 pm |
      • Infidel

        I am sure MUSLIMS have another excuse for this hate too!

        Verse 5:60 even says that your Allah transformed Jews of the past into APES & PIGS. This is echoed by verses 7:166 and 2:65.

        A hadith says that your terrorist self proclaimed mohammad believed rats to be "mutated Jews" (Bukhari 54:524, also confirmed by Sahih Muslim 7135 and 7136).

        Sure...it is all "self defense", right?? What PIG's crap the quran is!

        November 2, 2013 at 2:13 am |
        • Commenter

          Infidel,

          This can happen when fantasies and self-righteousness are so strong.

          November 2, 2013 at 2:16 am |
  13. AConservativeEdge

    Reblogged this on AConservativeEdge.

    October 30, 2013 at 4:05 pm |
  14. Bernie Goetz

    The Wahhabi types are the problem. Most religions are old boys clubs. I think an authoritative religious council residing in Mecca should be democratically elected from muslim populations around the world, as should the cardinals in Rome, with women voting also. Failing that let Iran take over Mecca.

    October 30, 2013 at 3:13 pm |
    • Infidel

      That is wishful thinking and not going to happen. These are the worst of the worst MUSLIMS that grace our earth.

      Saudi Wahhabi warlords are resolutely Salafists. That is why Saudi Arabia is one of the world's leading MUSLIMS terrorist manufacturing facilities. It is why 85% of the 9/11 suicide bombers were Saudi subjects. Al-Qaeda is Salafist and Wahhabist, and thus is lock step with the Islamic educational and religious system that are entrenched in Saudi Arabia. Worse yet...Saudi oil money is paying for that ISLAMIC madness to be taught in schools here in America as well as funding for their wahcked head banging mosques!

      Al-Qaeda is a spiritual religious association and not an organization based upon race, geography, or infrastructure. Osama bin Laden's authority came from their freakin' allah. Even among al-Qaeda's four founding fathers you will find a Palestinian, a Saudi, a Pakistani, and an Egyptian...but all of them are the worst of the worst MUSLIMS: Salafists

      October 30, 2013 at 4:02 pm |
  15. Infidel

    When leftist muslim appeasers say it is the “wrong interpretation” of islam that is wrong, really what they mean is “why can’t muslims just ignore all of the bad parts (better than 60%) of the koran?”

    Leftist muslim appeasers don’t understand the psyche of the devout muslim who takes things literally. To muslim appeaseers, these things that mohammad did and spoke about are just suggestions, not commandments.

    Islam is not benign. To ignore this, being politically-correct, is to ignore a very large, DEADLY pink elephant in the room.

    October 30, 2013 at 10:27 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Your statement works just as well if you replace "muslim" and "koran" with "christian" and "bible".

      October 30, 2013 at 10:30 am |
      • Infidel

        Oh really?? The “holy” (cough-cough) texts of Islam are saturated with verse after verse of violence and hatred toward those outside the faith.

        Now pay attention...in sharp contrast to the Bible, which generally moves from relatively violent passages to far more peaceful ones, the muslim koran travels the exact OPPOSITE path. The handful of earlier verses in the koran that speak of tolerance (when mohammad was weak and needed to rearm and resupply) are overwhelmed by an avalanche of later ones that carry a much different message of hate, punishment and DEATH.

        While Old Testament verses of blood and guts are generally bound by historical context within the text itself, koranic imperatives to violence all appear open-ended.

        By any objective measure, the "Religion of Peace" called ISLAM has been the harshest, bloodiest religion the world has ever known. Now you will understand why you see a koran in one hand of a terrorist and an AK-47 in the other as these animals scream out "allahu akbar" as they KILL!

        Nice try...but I have the ACTIONS and IN-ACTIONS of "good" muslims to support my statements...you??

        October 30, 2013 at 10:41 am |
        • Doc Vestibule

          Have you read the Koran?
          It makes a clear distinction between jihad, which is warfare with rules of engagement, and irjaf, which amounts to terrorism (religiously motivated violence against civilians).
          Practi/tioner os irjaf are condemned in the afterlife.

          Bin Laden and his followers were followers of an extreme, literalist sect of Islam called " Wahhabi".
          They justify their violence by taking verses out of context – you know, kind of like Christian extremists that blow up abortion clinics or racists who quote Phineas to justify their bigotry.

          By the standards of the 7th century, the laws of war that are laid down by the Quran are pretty humane.
          Compare "jihad" to its Biblical counterpart of "herem" (total annihilation).

          If Christian apologists can dismiss sects like the Westboro Baptists and the traditionally racist and backwards Southern Baptists (both of whom interpret every word of the Bible as literal truth) becuase they "take things out of context", then why shouldn't such apologetics be extended to their Muslim cousins?

          October 30, 2013 at 11:01 am |
        • Infidel

          Yes I have read the Koran...many times! The Koran provides me the best evidence when debating muslim appeasers/apologists. Actually, when you examine the Koran as I have...better than 60% of this hateful book deals with how to treat, punish, tax (jizya), fight and KILL non-muslims!!

          Although Islam is a broad religion, it is no coincidence that the purists ("good" muslims) in Islam – those most prone to taking the words of muhammad literally – are almost always the more dangerous. They may be called ‘extremists’ or ‘fundamentalists’ by muslim appeasers like yourself but, at the end of the day, they are always the more dedicated to the koran and following the path of Jihad as mandated by terrorist/pedophile mohammad.

          As for "jihad" itself, not only is the word “jihad” mentioned in several places within the their koran, such as the infamous Sura 9 (“Verse of the Sword”), there are over 150 calls to "holy war" AKA "jihad: scattered throughout the entire text of this hateful book. .

          At the very least, people should know that “Jihad” is used within the context of religious warfare time and time again throughout the koran and the hadith, and that, regardless of the exact terminology, Islam’s most sacred texts clearly advocate the sort of "holy war" that propels this modern-day terrorism throughout our globe.

          October 30, 2013 at 1:25 pm |
        • Doc Vestibule

          I like how you totally and completely failed to address the relevant content of my post, except for the first line.

          October 30, 2013 at 1:45 pm |
        • Infidel

          So let me help you understand the "WHY?" behind this world wide MUSLIM madness...

          The most oft-repeated myth in this mythical "war on terror" is the notion that radical Islam is a corrupted and extreme interpretation of an otherwise good and peaceful religion. (Ha!)

          A "radical" is actually someone who favors extreme change and who differs substantially from the established norm. Yet the Islamic terrorists ALL openly admit with their word, and ALL confirm by their deeds, that they are fundamentalists – meaning that they are the opposite of radicals.

          The Islamic term for these fundamentalists is Salafi. It tells us that these muslims live by and rely upon the testimony of their terrorist/pedophile self proclaimed prophet mohammad, which is to say they trust the Koran and Hadith.

          Wahhabis are Salafi fundamentalists as are ALL Islamic terrorists.

          As for trying to equate a moral equivalency of all these WORLD WIDE MUSLIM terrorists against a handful of non-muslims who commit crimes for their religion...all I have to say is: "really?"

          I don't see fellow Jews or Christians (or any other major religion other than ISLAM) sit idle and watch crimes against humanity...everybody else goes after these people in or out of their religious beliefs. However, in MUSLIMS hell holes, these terrorists spend more time acting like their terrorist/pedophile prophet mohammad than civilized human beings.

          The key difference here that all other major world wide religions condemn that kind of behavior, not condone it as do MUSLIMS by their IN-ACTIONS and SLIENCE!!

          [crickets]

          October 30, 2013 at 2:30 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          You have obviously never read the Quran, because if you actually read it, you would have known that it only says to fight in self defense. The "infidels" the Quran refers to are the Pagans of Mecca who were killing off the Muslims at the time – so when the Quran says to "fight the infidels" it is telling Muslims to fight the Pagans in self-defense. And no, the terrorists who kill civilians do so AGAINST the basic tenets of Islam. But what does it matter – Republicans/Conservatives/Evangelicals like you are all just paranoid losers who would believe anything that shows up in front of your computer screen except for one thing – the truth. Keep living in your ignorance and keep making a fool out of yourself – you seem to be doing a good job at it.

          October 30, 2013 at 4:08 pm |
        • Infidel

          I told you before...your quran provides the best evidence in reference to how hateful your cult ideology called ISLAM is.

          Self defense argument? Really?? Is that what the 9/11 hijackers did? Self Defense? Is that what Major Nidal Hassan at Ft. Hood did as he yelled "allahu akbar" as he killed 14? Self Defense? Is that what the Boston Bombers did when they laid down backpacks of pressure cooker bombs? Self defense?

          Pay attention! You might learn the truth about your cult ideology called ISLAM.

          Every prime source regarding your self procalimed prophet's mohammad's life confirm that Allah's lone spokesperson wasn't a prophet, but was in fact a terrorist – having issued no predictions that came true but having led around over 70 terrorist raids for booty and political power in the first 10 years of the Islamic Era alone!

          In your 33rd surah, your quarn tells Muslims to follow mohammad's example of fighting and KILLINGS. In the 8th and 9th surahs, Allah says that those who do, and become jihadists killing non-Muslims in his cause, are the BEST Muslims.

          So the rationale here isn't complex, or even subject to interpretation. According to your terrorist mohammad, Allah, and all of Islam’s “holy” texts”, all “good” Muslims are terrorists to us non-beleivers!!

          October 31, 2013 at 4:44 pm |
    • Intisarul Islam

      You comments are the epitome of stupidity. Where did you get that statistic that "60%" of the Quran is "bad"? (I hear crickets chirping) Oh, that's right! You Republicans are genetically predisposed to spew lies! Terrorists make up a tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny fraction if all the worlds Muslims. If most Muslims were terrorists, the US would probably not exist anymore, and all the Muslims would be dead (because they would all blow themselves up), which is clearly NOT the case. By the way, which of Muhammad's "commandments" are you so worried about. If you knew anything about Islam, you would have known that he only told his followers to fight in self defense. Speaking of pink elephants in rooms, the only pink elephant in this room is YOU – you are ranting about "intolerance" and violence in your posts, when YOU are the most intolerant of all here.

      October 30, 2013 at 4:18 pm |
      • Infidel

        Your quran contains at least 109 verses that call on “good” Muslims to wage war with nonbelievers and yes, those “not-muslim-enough”.

        Some of your quran's texts are VERY graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. You Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter.

        Got ISLAM??

        October 30, 2013 at 8:13 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          Did you even read any of my comments. The "infidels" the Quran says to fight are the Pagans of Mecca who were killing off Muslims at the time – NOT random non-Muslims. The terrorists who kill random people today thus are going AGAINST what the Quran says, so are NOT "good Muslims."

          October 31, 2013 at 1:39 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          Also, the graphic parts are descriptions of battles which were fought with swords in the 7th century, which could get violent.

          October 31, 2013 at 1:40 pm |
        • Infidel

          I just LOVE when muslims try to defend their self proclaimed terrorist/pedophile prophet called mohammad!

          Man up you muslims! Under your mohammad, slaves and poets were executed, captives were beheaded, and adulterers were put into the ground and stoned. None of these were done during the heat of battle or necessitated by SELF DEFENSE.

          Even to this day, Islamic law mandates DEATH for certain crimes such as blasphemy and apostasy.

          I have muslim actions inactions to support me...you???

          October 31, 2013 at 3:55 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          Poets and slaves were NOT arbitrarily executed. Also, Christians and Jews at the time used to stone adulterers to death as well; even today, most Republicans support the practice.

          November 1, 2013 at 10:08 am |
      • Infidel

        We can only hope that you MUSLIMS join the 21st century and find your islam inconsistent with science, logics, human rights, women’s rights, and ethics.

        November 1, 2013 at 2:56 pm |
        • Intisarul Islam

          I've noticed a pattern in this "debate" (it's in quotations because you only use lies – NO facts). It starts with you posting a few lies; I then refute your lies; and finally, you change the subject, ignore my refutation of your lies, and post the same lies over again.

          November 1, 2013 at 3:21 pm |
  16. Doc Vestibule

    How afraid should Americans be of middle eastern muslims?
    According to President Bush, orange.
    Be orange afraid.

    October 30, 2013 at 10:08 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      During the twilight years of the Clinton administration, a conservative republican thinktank presented the President with a bold statement of principles conceived to advance America's interests as the dominant global empire.
      Many of the key contributors became high ranking officials in the subsequent Bush administration, including the vice president, secretary of defense, deputy secretary of state, under secreatary of state for global affairs, the president's chief of staff, the president of the World Bank and the US ambassador to Afghanistan, Iraq and to the UN (amongst others).

      October 30, 2013 at 10:12 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      In order to "shape a new century favorable to American principles and interests" and to "extend an international order friendly to our security, our prosperity, and our principles" they called for ma.ssive increases in defense spending.
      The revitalized military strength would be used to protect the US's fundamental interests in Europe, Asia and the Middle East via multiple, simultaneous major theater wars and through "constabulary" duties to shape political environments.

      October 30, 2013 at 10:15 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      It called for everything from increasing manpower to expanding the nuclear ar.senal to advanced forms of biological warfare that can target specific genotypes.
      The general public is seldom supportive of their tax dollars going to military expansion to the tune of $15 – 20 billion annually (their stated target of 4% of the GDP). The framers of the "Pax Americana" realized that "the process of transformation... is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor".
      They got precisely that on 9/11, 2001 and seized the opportunity like starving dogs.
      A week or so after the New York attack, this group urged the President to invade Iraq "...even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the attack".

      They created and promoted a culture of fear against an indistinct, decentralized, undefeatable enemy in the US and capitalized on it to take away citizens fundamental rights, like privacy, free speech, unlawful detainment and the right to a speedy trial (or a trial at all).
      In the same way that communists were made boogie men in latter part of the 20th century, so have Muslims become the 21st century's targets.

      (sorry for the multi-post. it took a while to figure out that the word filter was blocking "ar.senal")

      October 30, 2013 at 10:17 am |
  17. G

    Expect more until we get a leader and not an Affirmative Action president

    October 30, 2013 at 9:56 am |
    • Infidel

      I call him, our "MUSLIM appeaser in chief".

      This coming from a person that was born into the muslim faith/ideology who said that the muslim call to prayer was the most beautiful sound he has ever heard!

      October 30, 2013 at 10:04 am |
      • Intisarul Islam

        Are you upset that Mitt Romney lost the election? Well, you can cry your eyes out, but it won't change the fact Obama won, and that your party is DYING OUT.

        November 1, 2013 at 3:23 pm |
  18. Reality # 2

    Only for the eyes of our sisters and brothers of Islam–

    For a fast but very peaceful solution:

    • There was no Gabriel i.e. Islam fails as a religion.

    عن حل حتى أسرع ولكن لا تزال سلمية جدا:

    • كان هناك فشل لا غابرييل أي الإسلام كدين. فشل المسيحية جزئيا

    October 30, 2013 at 7:55 am |
    • Reality # 2

      As noted many times:

      The Twenty (or so) Worst Things GOD'S CREATURES Have Done to Each Other:

      M. White, http://necrometrics.com/warstatz.htm#u (required reading)

      The Muslim Conquest of India

      "The likely death toll is somewhere between 2 million and 80 million. The geometric mean of those two limits is 12.7 million. "

      Rank …..Death Toll ..Cause …..Centuries……..(Religions/Groups involved)*

      1. 63 million Second World War 20C (Christians et al and Communists/atheists vs. Christians et al, Nazi-Pagan and "Shintoists")

      2. 40 million Mao Zedong (mostly famine) 20C (Communism)

      3. 40 million Genghis Khan 13C (Shamanism or Tengriism)

      4. 27 million British India (mostly famine) 19C (Anglican)

      5. 25 million Fall of the Ming Dynasty 17C (Buddhism, Taoism, Confucianism, Chinese folk religion)

      6. 20 million Taiping Rebellion 19C ( Confucianism, Buddhism and Chinese folk religion vs. a form of Christianity)

      7. 20 million Joseph Stalin 20C (Communism)

      8. 19 million Mideast Slave Trade 7C-19C (Islam)

      9. 17 million Timur Lenk 14C-15C

      10. 16 million Atlantic Slave Trade 15C-19C (Christianity)

      11. 15 million First World War 20C (Christians vs. Christians)

      12. 15 million Conquest of the Americas 15C-19C (Christians vs. Pagans)

      13. 13 million Muslim Conquest of India 11C-18C

      14. 10 million An Lushan Revolt 8C

      15. 10 million Xin Dynasty 1C

      16. 9 million Russian Civil War 20C (Christians vs Communists)

      17. 8 million Fall of Rome 5C (Pagans vs. Christians)

      18. 8 million Congo Free State 19C-20C (Christians)

      19. 7½ million Thirty Years War 17C (Christians vs Christians)

      20. 7½ million Fall of the Yuan Dynasty 14C

      October 31, 2013 at 11:30 pm |
  19. laststonecarver

    - To be counted as an act of terror, an incident has to be an intentional act or threat by a "non-state actor" that meets two of these three criteria: –
    • It was aimed at attaining a political, economic, religious or social goal.
    • It was intended to coerce, intimidate or convey a message to a larger group.
    • It violated international humanitarian law by targeting non-combatants.

    – Who are the state actors?, and why would they be excluded from the definition of a terrorist? -

    October 30, 2013 at 7:38 am |
  20. nightowl0300

    The graph used in this article fails to point out how large our global population is today in comparison to 1970. When you figure in how many billions more inhabit our planet, you can use this data to make a comparison in terms of percentages. On a side note I believe terrorism today is not just about one's own perception of religion, but also about our limited resources. We are going to see more wars/terrorism over the globe's natural resources: food, shelter, heat, etc. We are reproducing ourselves into a corner.

    October 30, 2013 at 6:08 am |
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