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The C.S. Lewis you never knew
C.S. Lewis has become a virtual Christian saint, but his life wasn't as tidy as his public image.
December 1st, 2013
06:00 AM ET

The C.S. Lewis you never knew

By John Blake, CNN

(CNN) - He looked like a “red-faced pork butcher in shabby tweeds,” lived secretly with a woman for years and was so turned on by S&M that he once asked people at a party whether he could spank them.

We’re talking, of course, about C.S. Lewis, the Christian icon and author of classics such as “Mere Christianity” and “The Chronicles of Narnia.”

It’s tempting to remember Lewis only as the self-assured defender of Christianity who never met an argument he couldn't demolish. His death 50 years ago, on November 22, 1963, was overshadowed by the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. He has since become a patron saint of American evangelicals.

But the actual man whom friends called “Jack” had a “horrible” personal life, thought he had failed as a defender of Christianity and spent so much time in pubs that his publishers initially struggled selling him to a religious audience, scholars say.

“American publishers worried about offending their more puritanical readers because it seemed impossible to get a dust jacket picture of Jack without a pint or a cigarette,” says Michael Tomko, a literature professor at Villanova University in Pennsylvania.

There are three other parts of Lewis’ life that clash with his image as well:

1. His religious books made him poor

No modern Christian author sells like Lewis. The cumulative sales of his Christian books for adults - not including the Christian allegory and children's fantasy "The Chronicles of Narnia" - now approach 10 million copies, according to HarperOne publishers. “Mere Christianity” sold more than 150,000 copies over the past year alone. Perhaps the only publishing parallel to Lewis' works would be “The Lord of the Rings” trilogy, a mythology written by Lewis’ close friend and fellow Christian J.R.R. Tolkien.

But Lewis never got rich from his Christian classics, says Michael Maudlin, executive editor at HarperOne.

“His books left him poor,” Maudlin said. “He had all of this money coming in, but he didn’t take those royalties.”

Lewis vowed to donate all the money he made from his books on Christianity, Maudlin says. He got big tax bills for his Christian books but struggled to pay them because he had given the money away.

Lewis refused to renounce his vow even though his money worries persisted throughout his life, Maudlin says.

“He is a man whose number one anxiety in life was poverty,” Maudlin said. “Because his dad overspent, money was always a worry. He didn’t fix things in his home because he and his brother worried about poverty.”

Lewis’ financial worries stalked him until the end, says Alister McGrath, author of the acclaimed new book “C.S. Lewis: A Life.”

Lewis’ health began to fail near the end of his life, so he wanted to hire a private secretary to help tend to his affairs. His income, though, was so spotty that he told his potential secretary that he didn’t know whether he could pay him, McGrath writes.

Lewis was more worried about losing his teaching salary from the University of Cambridge than his book royalties, says McGrath, a professor at King's College London.

“Lewis was convinced that his books would cease to be popular and thus generate little in the way of income,” McGrath said.

2. He felt like a failure as a Christian communicator

"Brilliant" is one of the most common words used to describe Lewis. He seemed to have read everything, and he could easily write in several genres: children’s fantasy, science fiction, Christian apologetics and autobiography.

“He had an almost photographic memory,” Maudlin said. “He could recite the passage and page of a line from a book on medieval poetry.”

Lewis was not so adept in the ordinary world. He never learned to drive or type because he was too clumsy. And he was a shabby dresser who lived in a house that was falling apart.

He even began to doubt his ability to defend Christianity.

Lewis' breakthrough came as a Christian apologist, one who publicly defends and explains Christianity by invoking logic. He delivered a series of talks on Christianity for BBC radio during World War II that made him famous (you can hear some of those talks on YouTube). His fame crossed the Atlantic in 1947 when he made the cover of Time magazine.

But just as his fame peaked in the 1940s, Lewis began to doubt his persuasive powers, McGrath says.

Debating Christianity in public became “draining” for Lewis, McGrath says. At a 1945 lecture on Christian apologetics, according to McGrath, Lewis said, “Nothing is more dangerous to one’s own faith than the work of an apologist. No doctrine of that faith seems to me so spectral, so unreal as one that I have just successfully defended in a public debate.”

Lewis then lost a highly publicized debate to Elizabeth Anscombe, a young Catholic philosopher who pointed out inconsistencies in his reasoning. They clashed over passages in his book “Miracles,” which he later revised. Lewis’ confidence was shaken further when he realized that his argumentative powers had little effect on some of his closest friends and relatives, who remained hostile to Christianity, McGrath says.

Lewis thought that he had “failed as an apologist towards those who were closest to him,” McGrath writes. “How could Lewis maintain a profile as a public apologist with any integrity in the light of such private failures?”

When the BBC asked Lewis to participate in a discussion on the evidence of religious faith, he declined: “Like the old fangless snake in 'The Jungle Book,' I’ve largely lost my dialectical power.”

Some contend that even Lewis’ faith failed him.

He lost love not long after finding it late in his life: Joy Davidman was an American writer who befriended Lewis by letter and eventually became his wife. She died of cancer at 45 with Lewis at her bedside. Their love affair was depicted in the 1993 film “Shadowlands.”

Lewis had written about God and suffering in a book entitled “The Problem of Pain.” But when he wrote about losing his wife in “A Grief Observed,” he was a different man, says Ivan Strenski, a religious studies professor at the University of California, Riverside.

“The cocky self-confidence is totally destroyed,” Strenski said. “The confident, modern interpreter of Christianity is gone. He’s really a shattered Christian.”

3. He had a "horrible" personal life

When the University of St. Andrews in Scotland awarded Lewis an honorary degree in 1945, Lewis gloomily joked that he preferred getting a “case of Scotch whiskey.”

Lewis needed some escape at the time. His personal life was a wreck. The man who seemed like the embodiment of self-control and virtue in his books had a personal life complicated by dysfunction and deceit.

Lewis’ personal struggles began early. His beloved mother, Flora, died when he was 9; he never really got along with his father, Albert; and he was sent away to a miserable boarding school where a schoolmaster was literally declared insane.

“It was horrible," Maudlin said of Lewis’ personal life.

Then Lewis experienced another horror – trench warfare in World War I - but he rarely talked about the experience.  Nor did he talk much about the promise he made during the war to his fellow soldier and friend Paddy Moore.

Lewis assured Moore that he would take care of his mother if Paddy didn’t survive the war. Moore was killed, and Lewis fulfilled his vow after returning home. Lewis moved in with Paddy’s mother, Janie Moore, and helped raise her daughter, Maureen.

Lewis’ relationship with Janie Moore is still mystery. Some scholars say they became lovers; others say she was more like his mother. Lewis, though, hid the relationship from his father and his colleagues at Oxford University.

“There was an attraction between the two of them from the very beginning,” said Warren Rochelle, an English professor at the University of Mary Washington in Virginia.

“When he first met her, she was 45, almost the exact age when Lewis’ mother died, and it’s clear from correspondence that they found each other attractive and engaging,” Rochelle said.

Lewis had another complicated relationship at home with his brother Warren, or “Warnie," an alcoholic who moved in with Lewis and Janie Moore. Warnie couldn’t stand her.

As Janie Moore grew older, she lapsed into dementia. The demands of caring for an alcoholic brother and a disabled woman proved so difficult for Lewis that he was hospitalized for exhaustion at one point. Yet Lewis took care of Janie Moore and her daughter even as she presumably stopped being his lover, scholars say.

“She gave him stability, a family and a mother figure,” Rochelle said. “She gave him a lover for a while, but no one can prove it.”

Lewis’ sexual proclivities also clash with the images of the reserved Englishman who touted the virtues of abstinence before marriage in “Mere Christianity.”

Lewis displayed an interest in sadomasochism during his youth. He read the writings of the Marquis de Sade; once became drunk at a party and begged people to allow him to whip them; and signed three letters to friend Arthur Greeves with the closing “lover of the whip,” according to McGrath’s biography.

Lewis befriended Greeves during childhood, and the two remained close throughout his life. Greeves was gay, but that didn’t seem to bother Lewis.

“Lewis was aware of Greeves’ homosexuality and made it clear that this would not be a problem within their friendship,” McGrath said. “He also made it clear that he didn’t share Greeves’ orientation.”

Despite Lewis' personal hardships, those who've studied him say his kindness was as impressive as his intellect.

Lewis didn’t try to hide from a public that sought his counsel after he became famous. He made no attempt to conceal his phone number. He rose at daybreak to answer letters from people seeking spiritual advice.

He even made personal visits.  A priest once wrote Lewis that he didn’t know whether he believed in a loving God anymore. Lewis met the man and spent an afternoon talking to him about his problem, wrote A.N. Wilson, author of, “C.S. Lewis: A Biography.”

“The priest, who had expected the author of 'The Problem of Pain' to look pale and ethereal, was astonished by the red-faced pork butcher in shabby tweeds whom he actually encountered,” Wilson wrote.

Lewis is still surprising people 50 years later. His ability to reach people long after his death is astonishing, some say.

“It’s odd that someone has been so popular for so long,” Maudlin said. “Lewis’ books are still in front of the bookstore. We grew up with him, so we lose touch with how unusual that is.”

The Christian icon whose image we see in bookstores may first seem distant. He spoke and dressed like a prim Englishman from another time. But his life was messy, contradictory and tarnished by thwarted dreams.

Perhaps Lewis still speaks to us because we when we look closer at his life, he’s really not that unusual.

We see ourselves.

- CNN Writer

Filed under: Books • Christianity • United Kingdom

soundoff (1,513 Responses)
  1. Dante

    Reblogged this on Notes From a Bibliophile Wannabe.

    December 2, 2013 at 12:51 am |
  2. tony

    For fiction books that include religion and fantasy, I'll take Tery Pratchett's discworld series over any CS Lewis works.

    December 2, 2013 at 12:21 am |
    • G to the T

      LOVE me some Discworld!

      December 2, 2013 at 9:08 am |
  3. tony

    Teaching religion at college level is an oxymoron.

    December 2, 2013 at 12:18 am |
  4. chang232

    Reblogged this on Educated Worldview: Visionary, Seeker, and Dreamer and commented:
    Interesting. My hero is not perfect after all; what a surprise!

    December 2, 2013 at 12:14 am |
  5. Annastasia

    Though I don't accept this article in it's entirety as gospel truth, none of it shocks or offends me. When you're raised by a "schoolmaster that was literally declared insane", one can only imagine what demons Lewis endured. Just as God is real and impacts our lives, Satan is real and does the same. The only difference I know for sure is that God won. Lewis will always be remembered and respected for his literary work of God. The rest is fallen apple waste that only the worms care about it.

    December 2, 2013 at 12:00 am |
    • tony

      The Lin, witch, etc. series is a fun but silly kids fantasy story until you get to the outrageous religious claim at the end. Then it's just propaganda.

      December 2, 2013 at 12:17 am |
  6. Jon Montes

    He was a wicked man human just like ay of us in need of a Savior. Good thing we don't look up to man, we look up to God and the work of Jesus in the Cross for Redemtion of humanity.

    December 1, 2013 at 11:57 pm |
  7. Chrispy

    Is this where I post my opinion about whether God is rational or not and state it like it's a fact?

    Or wait, you who disagree with me, "You are dumb. You are delusional. Media. Brainwashing. Irrational. Puppet."

    Am I doing it right?

    December 1, 2013 at 11:51 pm |
    • Bleh

      This is the part where you get to be condescendingly smug, yes.

      December 1, 2013 at 11:52 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Your grammar could use a little work. Perhaps you should have a friend proof read it.

      December 2, 2013 at 1:49 am |
  8. atomD21

    I think people would be surprised by lots of so-called "pillars of the faith" if more digging were to be done in to their private lives. I don't have any actual proof or anything, just a hunch. I'm sure some of them were squeaky clean, but I'm sure that like Ted Haggard and Jim Bakker, there were plenty with skeletons they would rather keep in the closet.

    December 1, 2013 at 11:31 pm |
  9. Vince

    "Defender of Christianity and he abolished arguments"?? What arguments?? I'm pretty sure there isn't any religious arguments that hasn't been countered by Reason and Logic.

    December 1, 2013 at 11:24 pm |
  10. cross eyed mary

    I still don't no y I is better than u all.

    December 1, 2013 at 11:10 pm |
    • Bleh

      Yes , your grammar, spelling, and syntax is clearly superior. I'm so jealous.

      December 1, 2013 at 11:54 pm |
  11. Maximus Anglicanus: The Old High Churchman

    Mere Christianity is a fraud.

    December 1, 2013 at 10:52 pm |
  12. Pat

    It just goes to show that being a Christian or any member of another faith doesn't protect you from life's harsh realities, nor does it make you any less human. Clive Staple Lewis was not a saint or a sinner. He was just a man with a the pluses and minuses that come with being a man. Yes, he had a Christian worldview, but he was no less of a human being for it. And he may have been more of a sincere Christian than all of these modern-day televangelists and mega-church pastors put together for just that very reason.

    December 1, 2013 at 10:35 pm |
  13. Ryan

    As someone who teaches C.S. Lewis at the college level, I can say with authority that 90% of this article is pure rubbish. What awful, biased journalism.

    December 1, 2013 at 10:33 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      After reading the article I felt that C. S. Lewis was a fairly ordinary person who lived a fairly ordinary life. You are saying that 90% of what suggested that is untrue. What do you know about the man? Why don't you share?

      December 1, 2013 at 11:06 pm |
      • JimmyJames

        Shhhh! You should never disturb a sleepwalker. Especially Christian ones.

        December 1, 2013 at 11:22 pm |
    • Virginia

      Thank you for commenting. If only sources like yourself had been consulted simply to weigh into or contribute historical information about this deceased author. This is some of the worst journalism I have ever encountered. Everything in this article is based on speculation from threadbare sources. I would say I am surprised this is published but I can always count on CNN to be consistent. For the rest of the comments following, it is much easier to enjoy an article that has been written to pacify and cater to the needs of individuals who want reinforcement that their ideas about a subject can be justified. If this was written about anyone today or anyone you believed had character, I am sure you would be concerned with the sources and stretches employed by CNN. Take care and always strive for more from your news sources..

      December 1, 2013 at 11:51 pm |
      • Bleh

        I doubt Ryan knew any if this in the first place. I'll wager you didn't, either.
        Sorry if C.S. Lewis shattered your image that he was more than mere mortal.

        December 1, 2013 at 11:58 pm |
      • Kay

        Excuse me? You're calling this guy a "source"...why???

        This is the Internet. You know. The place "where no one knows you're a dog".

        The fact that "Ryan" claims he teaches C.S. Lewis at the college level doesn't make it true. The fact that he claims...while providing absolutely no evidence, no "historical information" whatsoever...that he "can say with authority that 90% of this article is pure rubbish" is, itself, pure rubbish.

        Yet you CHOOSE to believe him and CHOOSE to believe he's authoritative...why? Sure sounds like its only because he says what *you* want to hear.

        December 2, 2013 at 12:41 am |
  14. Kinda Sad Really

    I literally haven't been to the belief blog or read any CNN belief comments in over a year until tonight. I noticed that the same old atheist trolls are STILL here lol. For something you guys supposedly don't believe in, you sure spend a ton, and I mean a ton, of time on here.

    For me, I would find spending countless hours on a blog about something I don't believe in to be a huge waste of time. Unless maybe, just maybe, deep down you all know there's more to life and you spend so much time on here to falsely give yourselves the impression that you're intellectually superior and your non-belief in God is right. Regardless, I'll pray that one day you may see the light as I wish you all success and happiness in whatever endeavors you pursue.

    December 1, 2013 at 10:11 pm |
    • Reality # 2

      And to summarize our concern for all our brainwashed brethren:

      The Apostles' Creed 2013: (updated by yours truly and based on the studies of historians and theologians of the past 200 years)

      Should I believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created, spirit state of bliss called heaven??

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary. (Some say he was a mamzer.)

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A descent into Hell, a bodily resurrection
      and ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen
      (references used are available upon request)

      December 1, 2013 at 10:31 pm |
      • kyle

        Well, really – most scholars can objectively (whether conservative or liberal) agree that something did happen to Jesus's body after he died. Whether or not you believe it was stolen, taken away or raised from the dead – is entirely up to you.

        December 2, 2013 at 2:03 am |
        • Reality # 2

          Saving Christians from the Infamous Resurrection Con/

          From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15: 14, Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

          Even now Catholic/Christian professors (e.g.Notre Dame, Catholic U, Georgetown) of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

          To wit;

          From a major Catholic university's theology professor’s grad school white-board notes:

          "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
          Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

          Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

          Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

          The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

          Only Luke records it. (Luke mentions it in his gospel and Acts, i.e. a single attestation and therefore historically untenable). The Ascension ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers.

          The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

          "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
          http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

          The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.

          With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

          An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,

          p.4

          "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

          p.168. by Ted Peters:

          Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

          So where are the bones"? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, covered with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

          December 2, 2013 at 7:31 am |
      • Rio Lee

        So you don't believe that there is air coz you have not seen it, you don't believe you have stomach coz you have not seen your stomach, and you don't believe you have brain coz you have not seen it, have you?

        December 2, 2013 at 5:42 am |
        • Reality # 2

          You can pressurize/weigh/freeze/liquefy for visual confirmation of the presence of air and the wind is a constant reminder that air is there. .

          And with x-rays, CAT and MRi scans, we can see all the workings of the inner parts of our bodies.

          No one has yet to do that with their gods.

          December 2, 2013 at 7:37 am |
      • Rio Lee

        I hope you have done that all kinds of scans and tests to yourself, if you have. Good for you.
        It is just I believe in God through FAITH, not sure if you have that though. I don't need any merely human-invented machines to prove God exists. He isjust God, powerful Amazing and UNFATHOMABLE.

        December 6, 2013 at 3:27 am |
    • sybaris

      Debunking religion is like correcting a child that says 2+2=fish.

      December 1, 2013 at 10:38 pm |
    • Mary

      I don't believe a word you have just said, Kinda. But then, all you wanted to do was come on and call the posters that don't believe as you do trolls.

      This leads me to come to one conclusion: you're a Christian troll.

      See you next year, loser.

      December 1, 2013 at 10:38 pm |
    • Tom, Tom, the Other One

      This is a blog about belief, not necessarily your belief. Unfounded belief is intriguing, and even , it seems to me, a bit dangerous to our society. It's worth spending some time here to keep up with it.

      December 1, 2013 at 10:38 pm |
    • tallulah13

      Your opinion is duly noted.

      December 2, 2013 at 1:53 am |
    • whoa

      All the notorious trolls are responding.

      December 2, 2013 at 1:59 am |
    • blue

      Yes! I could not have said that better myself. That is exactly what I think every time I read the comments on this blog!

      December 2, 2013 at 8:35 am |
  15. Annie

    I really enjoyed this article. Yes, Lewis was apparently very human. But a man who is known for his integrity... a man who refuses to make money off Christianity even if it costs him personally and puts him the poorhouse... a man who looks after his alcoholic brother and his wartime buddy's demented aging mother... these things show a man with a profoundly decent heart.

    And we know that he did get saved later in life: this article fails to mention that there is a "Before" and "After" period in Lewis's life, when Christ made a difference.

    His struggle with depression is not all that surprising either. Mother Theresa went through the same dark agony. I think those who wade into dark places do risk coming under some of the oppression that they are confronting. Lewis was brave to take on atheism and agnosticism the way he did, but it's not surprising that it took a toll on him either. He was naive if he didn't anticipate it, in fact.

    Yes, a very good article about one of my favorite Christian heroes. Thank you to the author.

    December 1, 2013 at 8:58 pm |
    • Kinda Sad Really

      Well said, I agree with you entirely! god bless 🙂

      December 1, 2013 at 10:12 pm |
    • Danny Steiger

      Thank you for pointing out the lack of "before" and "after" in the article. I would love to throw several stones at the accuracy and details provided, however I will stop short of that only to say that I've all the more respect for a man who was honest in his struggles, who faced blessings and adversity and was impacted by both. Lewis will likely forever be my favorite and most cherished authors and has had a profound affect on my life.

      December 1, 2013 at 10:50 pm |
  16. Robert Brown

    2 Corinthians 4:3-4

    3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 4 in whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

    KJV reproduced by permission of Cambridge University Press, the Crown’s patentee in the UK.

    December 1, 2013 at 8:50 pm |
    • tallulah13

      "Gabba gabba we accept you, we accept you, one of us"

      Pinhead, The Ramones.

      December 1, 2013 at 9:03 pm |
    • sybaris

      Quoting the bible is like an 8 year old stabbing at you with his pretend Star Wars light saber..........cute and ineffective.

      December 1, 2013 at 9:21 pm |
      • Bryan W

        Hebrews 4:12

        December 1, 2013 at 9:30 pm |
        • sybaris

          Posting bible verse locations is like an 8 year old stabbing at you with his pretend Star Wars light saber..........cute and ineffective.

          December 1, 2013 at 9:31 pm |
        • Robert Brown

          Much more effective than a light saber.

          Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

          December 1, 2013 at 9:38 pm |
        • sybaris

          The use of circular logic is cute and ineffective as well

          December 1, 2013 at 10:40 pm |
        • tallulah13

          “If you end your training now — if you choose the quick and easy path as Vader did — you will become an agent of evil.”
          – Yoda

          December 1, 2013 at 10:51 pm |
      • Cpt. Obvious

        I think you should rethink the "cute' part of that equation.

        December 1, 2013 at 11:29 pm |
  17. Charm Quark

    No really, why doesn't god not communicate now with modern technology. Is god still stuck in the first century or is it all BS written by fools, for so many other fools to follow. Tweet God, if you get an answer, let us all know if it comes from heaven.

    December 1, 2013 at 7:17 pm |
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      He only answers telepathic inquiries– didn't you hear?

      December 1, 2013 at 7:22 pm |
    • Will T

      God created all the elementary particles. Even charm-flavored quarks. Put down your copy of "The Universe in a Nutshell" and get some fresh air. Even though you despise believers, we don't hate you. Pity, yes. Hate, no.

      December 1, 2013 at 8:57 pm |
      • tallulah13

        Please prove that god created all elementary particles. And while you're at it, please prove that your god exists. Until you do these things, your claims have no substance.

        December 1, 2013 at 9:01 pm |
        • NumberoneG

          Who taught man to copulate?

          December 1, 2013 at 9:43 pm |
        • Reality # 2

          See http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=dawn-of-the-deed .

          December 1, 2013 at 10:35 pm |
        • Mary

          #1G, you think God gave out an instruction manual?

          December 1, 2013 at 10:48 pm |
        • dMac1131

          I don't know how a brown cow eats green grass, makes white milk, and yellow butter, but it happens everyday. The bible says the earth speaks of his creation. Look out your front window and tell me God didn't make that !

          December 2, 2013 at 12:21 am |
        • Cpt. Obvious

          Do you think it was more powerpoint or overhead projector? Were there 3-D models involved? This could make for really interesting pron. God, two hawties, over an hour of play.

          December 1, 2013 at 11:31 pm |
        • Chrispy

          Can you prove to me beyond all doubt that you exist?

          You my friend, are no philosopher, just another man with a "right" opinion.

          December 1, 2013 at 11:49 pm |
        • Kay

          OK, DMac...I just looked out my front window. And now I'll tell you "God didn't make that".

          December 2, 2013 at 12:48 am |
        • HotAirAce

          NumberoneG: Women!

          December 2, 2013 at 12:49 am |
        • cross eyed mary

          Sam stone created all elementary particles. I no she did. She said so.

          December 2, 2013 at 4:22 am |
  18. Charm Quark

    Yo, belief blog jesus freaks, can you tell me why your god delusion did not progress with technology? God could not deliver his message by pony express, radio, TV, email, twitter or whatever, but left it up to his hustlers to deliver the message for a profit. You are all victims to the biggest scam in history. You are all going to die and return to the cosmos, deal with it.

    December 1, 2013 at 6:57 pm |
    • Fr33th1nk3r

      That was 100% accurate but.......pretty harsh.

      December 1, 2013 at 7:16 pm |
    • Charming Dork

      Use right Sam. As usual. I seen evidence too, mind ya! Thanks for yor hep.

      December 1, 2013 at 7:36 pm |
      • .

        What's the matters, dork, mad because people other than yourself post here? Sorry you don't own this blog, no matter how many different names you use.

        December 1, 2013 at 11:02 pm |
        • sam stone

          Best be careful, we are going to be in big trouble when faith's big big, fvcking big lawsuit hits

          Hey, faith, suck a12 gauge

          December 2, 2013 at 5:30 am |
    • witty

      No point arguing about God's existence....we all die one day....and we'd all really know if there is truly a God or not....*i wonder how the shock on the faces of atheists would be like....* lool!!......finally like CS Lewis said in one of his books...." Those who will find themselves in hell made the choice...and the locked themselves in there by themselves and throw away the key*.... Time will tell who was the fool on earth

      December 1, 2013 at 11:56 pm |
      • Kay

        Why do you think we'll all know if it turns out there is *not* a God and *not* an afterlife?

        December 2, 2013 at 12:45 am |
    • 116

      God is unchanging since God is outside of time there can be no linear progression, and there are thousands of Christian websites, Radio stations, musicians, who do his work, and like CS Lewis, give most of the money to charity, God has the ability to work through us and he does every day.

      December 2, 2013 at 11:16 am |
  19. bostontola

    Fact: Man has created thousands of religions with many more imaginary gods.

    If there was one true God, I wonder where it would put atheists in relation to people worshipping all the false gods. Most people worshipped the false gods and were certain their god was real and many spoke against all other gods (hence against God).

    December 1, 2013 at 6:40 pm |
    • Ecal

      Atheists also worship a false god, their autonomy (-;

      December 1, 2013 at 6:50 pm |
      • bostontola

        Ecal,
        Who said atheists worship, or even believe, man is autonomous?

        December 1, 2013 at 7:03 pm |
      • bostontola

        Ecal,
        Fact: Humans are not autonomous. We would die without the billions of microorganisms that live in and on our bodies.

        Is that because we were created dependent on alien one called organisms, or because we co-evolved with them?

        December 1, 2013 at 7:18 pm |
      • Fr33th1nk3r

        One cannot "worship their autonomy" anymore than one can "worship their faith". What a completely nonsensical statement.....at least the 🙂 saves you a little bit.

        December 1, 2013 at 7:22 pm |
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