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Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong?
Phil Robertson of A&E's "Duck Dynasty" has been suspended for his comments on homosexuality.
December 20th, 2013
11:23 AM ET

Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong?

By Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) – The Robertson family of "Duck Dynasty" fame has rallied around its patriarch, saying his controversial comments on homosexuality are "grounded in the teachings of the Bible." But Scripture is fiercely contested ground, and some experts say Phil Robertson misinterprets a key Bible verse.

A&E, the network that broadcasts the hugely popular "Duck Dynasty" show, suspended Robertson for a now infamous interview with GQ magazine. In the article, Robertson, who became a born-again Christian in the 1970s after a prodigal youth, is asked to define "sin."

Here's what Robertson says: “Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there. Bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men."

Robertson, 67, then paraphrases a Bible passage from the New Testament: “Don’t be deceived. Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers they won’t inherit the kingdom of God.”

That's a pretty close citation of 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, which is a letter from Paul, often called the father of Christianity theology, to a fledgling Christian community in Corinth, Greece.

Here's what Paul's passage says, as rendered in the New International Version, by far the most popular translation among evangelicals and conservative Christians such as Robertson:

"Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men, nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God."

Evangelicals, who make up about a quarter of the U.S. population, tend to take that passage at face value. The Robertson family pastor, for instance, told CNN on Thursday that "the verse explains itself."

Robertson himself is no religious neophyte. He's an elder in the White's Ferry Road Church of Christ and offers spiritual counseling, charity and Bible studies to many in his hometown of West Monroe, Louisiana, the family pastor, Mike Kellett told CNN.

The "Duck Dynasty" star also preaches around the country to conservatives that flock to hear his blend of woodsy, plainspoken Christianity.

Many conservatives backed Robertson's views on Scripture and homosexuality this week, if not the "crude" way he argued his point to GQ.

My Take: The Bible really does condemn homosexuality

But other Bible experts said the Scripture Robertson cited isn't quite clear about homosexuality.

"A lot of people misread this text because it's so complicated," said O. Wesley Allen Jr., an associate professor at Lexington Theological Seminary in Kentucky.

First, scholars say, we have to look at the context surrounding Paul's letter.

The Christian leader is trying to get the quarreling Corinthians to stop taking each other to civil courts and being judgmental. "The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already," Paul says.

Things were supposed to be different after they became Christian believers, Paul continues; they were supposed to stop their sinful ways.

Then Paul lists some of their sins of the past, including greed, drinking too much, worshipping idols and sexual immorality. "That is what some of you were," Paul says. "But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

The list of sins is likely based on rumors that Paul heard about Corinth, says Warren Throckmorton, a psychology professor at Grove City College in Pennsylvania who has studied the Bible's teachings on homosexuality. Bible scholars call it a "vice list," and it appears several times in Scripture.

So what does Paul's "vice list" say about homosexuality? That's the tricky part.

The first word Paul uses is "malakoi," which means "soft" in Greek, according to Allen. By analogy, the word came to mean "effeminate," which is how the King James Version of the Bible translates it.

"In the ancient world, it would refer to a boy in a relationship with an older man," Allen said. "It was pederasty, not homosexuality as we think of it today."

The other relevant word on Paul's "vice list" is "arsenokotai," which means "male sex." It refers to the other half in the man-boy relationship, common in Greece at the time, Allen said, the older male having sex with the "soft one."

"It isn't anything to do with what we would see today in an intimate, mutual relationship between gay adults," said Allen, who is co-authoring an upcoming book on homosexuality and heterosexuality in the church.

My Take: The Bible’s surprisingly mixed messages on sexuality

Even so, scholars such as Allen acknowledge there are no Bible passages that support same-sex relationships, and at least seven that appear to condemn gay sex.

"There's no way around the fact that those passages take a negative view of homosexuality, and nowhere in the Bible is a positive view offered," Allen said. "So conservatives and liberals continue to debate."

Liberals say that some parts of the Bible offered particular truths for a specific times and places but those times and places, as well as human understanding of sexuality, have progressed dramatically.

"The Bible may be divinely inspired, but its authors were human and saw, as St. Paul puts it, through a glass darkly," said Jim Naughton, a Christian gay rights activist and communications consultant. "On the subject of homosexuality, the Bible doesn’t mean what Phil Robertson thinks it means."

Conservatives such as Robertson, on the other hand, argue that the Bible is the bedrock of their faith, unchanging and unalterable. "We want you to know that first and foremost we are a family rooted in our faith in God and our belief that the Bible is His word," the Robertson family said Thursday.

For decades, the gulf between the two sides has divided denominations, churches and families. To paraphrase Lincoln, both sides read the same Bible and pray to the same God, and both invoke his aid to argue against each other. Which is why our contemporary debate over homosexuality is so fierce, and so seemingly unending.

- CNN Belief Blog Editor

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  1. moderatedave

    I see more pain from those who do not believe than those who do. Passionate about the hatred of Christians, that is what I see, it is sad.

    May 23, 2014 at 3:41 am |
  2. Greg

    Why does the left wing media censor Conservative voices?

    January 15, 2014 at 6:01 am |
  3. MonkeyBoy125

    If god is Omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent why would he, having foreknowledge of what satan would do, create satan? Being omnipotent means nothing can happen unless through will. Either your god is none of these things or your book has it all wrong and sin and evil are the will of god and the need to send a redeemer is irrelevant. The ONLY people who misinterperet the bible are those who believe it is true.

    January 14, 2014 at 10:19 am |
    • steven c

      Oh, I think God created Satan for a very special purpose. And probably beyond our comprehension.

      January 14, 2014 at 1:08 pm |
      • MonkeyBoy125

        Then why send Jesus to suffer and die to redeem us from the sin that god intended to give us?

        January 14, 2014 at 3:18 pm |
        • stevec

          You are confused, God never intended to give us sin. We chose that for ourselves.

          January 19, 2014 at 3:40 pm |
  4. Ford

    People who actually believe that the bible is true are the ones who "get the bible wrong." What this half-wit thinks it means is completely irrelevant.

    January 9, 2014 at 11:18 am |
    • stevec

      No matter, what you believe the scriptures in the bible say it is truth, because you believe it is true and it agrees with your belief of God, mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, or do you believe what it says because you have studied it, dwell on it, and actually acted upon so you truly know your beliefs are those of God.

      January 9, 2014 at 7:46 pm |
    • Don Schenk

      Christians aren't a persecuted minority group. They're a persecuted majority group.

      January 13, 2014 at 9:48 am |
  5. Katherine

    Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code" : The Bible did not arrive by fax from heaven.

    AMEN! http://ifhappinesscanlastforever.com/2014/01/03/the-bible-did-not-arrive-by-fax-from-heaven/

    ...

    January 6, 2014 at 5:36 am |
    • Science Works

      And neither did the Mormons Katherine – but the bible did get the creation story wrong.

      January 6, 2014 at 6:37 am |
      • Mantid

        What part of creation did the bible get wrong?

        January 6, 2014 at 4:20 pm |
        • stevec

          Why the conflict, I believe both are correct, evolution and creation, doesn't genesis say the animals and plants came first, why everyone want to argue.

          January 7, 2014 at 7:17 pm |
        • truthprevails1

          steve: Well yes but we also know we are indirectly related to those animals and we know that there is zero evidence that a god was involed or that Adam & Eve were the first inhabitants. A basic Evolution course might do you some good...stop assuming you know based on your small understanding and acceptance, and start caring.

          January 11, 2014 at 4:37 pm |
        • Now that's just stupid...

          What part did it get right?

          January 24, 2014 at 9:21 pm |
      • Katherine

        Neither did the Mormons what? Arrive from heaven? What is it that you're trying to say? Makes no sense. Oh my, you got completely off topic by going out of your way trying to be rude. Tsk, tsk.

        January 8, 2014 at 10:56 pm |
  6. Katherine

    Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code" : The Bible did not arrive by fax from heaven.

    AMEN! http://ifhappinesscanlastforever.com/2014/01/03/the-bible-did-not-arrive-by-fax-from-heaven/

    January 6, 2014 at 5:35 am |
  7. mungo

    Phil tells his followers to get married while you are still children but the Bible instructs Christians to never marry and to dedicate all your time to God.
    So yes Phil gets the teachings of Jesus wrong and he really should shut up and read his bible instead of using it to sell his duck calls.

    January 3, 2014 at 1:17 pm |
    • Brandon

      Lies. Read the Bible please.

      January 3, 2014 at 5:08 pm |
      • Bob

        Yes, read that Christian book of nasty AKA the bible, wherein you can find horrid stuff like this about the foul Christian "god":

        Numbers 31:17-18
        17 Now kiII all the boys. And kiII every woman who has slept with a man,
        18 but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.

        Deuteronomy 13:6 – “If your brother, your mother’s son or your son or daughter, or the wife you cherish, or your friend who is as your own soul entice you secretly, saying, let us go and serve other gods … you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death”

        1 Timothy 2:11
        "Let a woman learn quietly with all submissiveness. I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. For Adam was formed first, then Eve; and Adam was not deceived, but the woman was deceived and became a transgressor."

        Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

        Leviticus 25
        44 “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
        45 You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property.
        46 You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

        Note that the bible is also very clear that you should sacrifice and burn an animal today because the smell makes sicko Christian sky fairy happy. No, you don't get to use the parts for food. You burn them, a complete waste of the poor animal.

        Yes, the bible really says that, everyone. Yes, it's in Leviticus, look it up. Yes, Jesus purportedly said that the OT commands still apply. No exceptions. But even if you think the OT was god's mistaken first go around, you have to ask why a perfect, loving enti-ty would ever put such horrid instructions in there. If you think rationally at all, that is.

        And then, if you disagree with my interpretation, ask yourself how it is that your "god" couldn't come up with a better way to communicate than a book that is so readily subject to so many interpretations and to being taken "out of context", and has so many mistakes in it. Pretty pathetic god that you've made for yourself.

        So get out your sacrificial knife or your nasty sky creature will torture you eternally. Or just take a closer look at your foolish supersti-tions, understand that they are just silly, and toss them into the dustbin with all the rest of the gods that man has created.

        Ask the questions. Break the chains. Join the movement.
        Be free of Christianity and other superstitions.

        http://whywontgodhealamputees.com/

        January 4, 2014 at 11:59 am |
        • Now that's just stupid...

          My personal favorite is the story of Lot, where his daughters get him drunk and have s-e-x with him to carry on the family seed. But god after incinerating a whole town for immorality has nothing to say, but did just days before torched lots wife for looking over her shoulder.

          January 5, 2014 at 1:33 am |
        • It aint love

          You've missed the most important statement Jesus made: the golden rule supercedes ALL other rules. In a nutshell it means to treat others the way you'd want to be treated. Vilifying gays publicly only serves one purpose: to give a green-light to those who want someone to hate, beat-up, maim or kill. If, in spite of knowing this is the probable outcome, your cult-leader vilifies gays and justifies the consequences of his behavior by arguing that whatever happens is 'in gawwwwds hands'... think about what your cult is teaching. I'll give you a hint: it ain't love.

          January 5, 2014 at 10:37 am |
        • stevec

          I suggest you stay in the Book of John, learn to love first before trying to other the rest of the bible. The old testament teaches you the things man should not do, the new testament teaches man the things he should do. That will get you on the right path.

          January 5, 2014 at 2:07 pm |
  8. Just Sayin...

    Phil Robertson's parents actually had a lot in common. Way way wayyyyy too much in common.

    January 3, 2014 at 11:05 am |
  9. TYRANNASAUR

    Does Phil Robertson get the Bible wrong?

    Since the bible is a piece of ambiguous written crap he's only doing what most people do that THINK THEY READ THE BIBLE... they interpret it any way they want....if you're a negative hateful person that's what you will see.... and apparently he is.

    January 2, 2014 at 5:54 pm |
    • steven c

      Amen, I don't think we read the bible, I believe the bible reads us

      January 3, 2014 at 9:46 am |
    • Brandon

      I wish you would go to Church. You need it.

      January 3, 2014 at 5:10 pm |
      • truthprevails1

        Only the weak need church and gods, the rest of us are good without. Maybe you should actually read your bible, it is the greatest path to disbelief. Or perhaps check out evilbible.org-it shows the contradictions and fallacies within that book.
        Join us in the 21st century!

        January 4, 2014 at 7:23 am |
        • stevec

          I don't think Jesus was weak. To all the Christians, why didn't God destroy Satan?

          January 4, 2014 at 9:55 am |
        • truthprevails1

          stevec: Why even believe jesus existed? Considering nothing was written about him until 30-40 years after he apparently died (but not really cause no-one returns from the dead...why would jesus be any different?)...stories get embellished and tend to lose pieces over time...so why accept the ones told about jesus?

          January 4, 2014 at 10:16 am |
        • stevec

          Good Questions. Strongest evidence, everyone of Jesus disciples, except John, gave up their lives for what Jesus showed them. Jesus has 2 billion people that believe in him today and growing, including the Muslims, they more books on Jesus than the Christians.

          January 4, 2014 at 10:22 am |
        • sam stone

          steve: many people took their own lives in the heaven's gate fiasco. this does not prove that marshall applewhite was a prophet

          January 4, 2014 at 11:50 am |
        • stevec

          right, I bet you would sacrifice your life willingly for something you didn't absolutely believe is true. Would you sacrifice you life to proof that god does not exist. I bet not.

          January 4, 2014 at 12:19 pm |
        • Cpt. Obvious

          People (and some animals) sacrifice their lives for a cause that they feel is worthy. Muslims do it because they are 100% convinced that their god and their religion is correct, so it's the BELIEF that is the impetus for such an action. Just because someone is willing to be a martyr for a cause does not mean that that cause is accurate. Very, simple, basic logic.

          January 4, 2014 at 12:32 pm |
        • stevec

          See, misquoting of scripture, actually turns more people away from God, than towards God, this is what Jesus warned us about people adding and subtracting their own opinions, beliefs, and thoughts in with God's. Jesus was only about teaching the world one thing, that was unconditional, I did not come here to judge the world, I came to give mercy, what is so hard to understand about that. It's not, we just don't want to do it.

          January 13, 2014 at 9:43 pm |
        • Don Schenk

          Religious believers may be wiling to sacrifice themselves for a cause, but it tykes Atheists to sacrifice millions of others to advance their cause–e.g., in the Soviet Union and "mainland" China.

          January 16, 2014 at 9:39 am |
        • sam stone

          steve: the fact that people died for a belief does not make it true. people flew airplanes into the twin towers on 9/11, that doesn't verify the truthfulness of allah

          January 4, 2014 at 7:30 pm |
  10. Felix Sinclair

    Disliking someone or something simply because you're told to is moral cowardice.

    January 2, 2014 at 1:18 pm |
    • igaftr

      Judging someone for a trait that people are born with, such as skin color or $exual preferance is even more abhorant.

      January 2, 2014 at 3:01 pm |
  11. stevec

    Happy New Year And I hate to bring this up, but there is another problem with our interpretation of the Scriptures, a big problem, the word “Hell” was added to the bible too. It was translated from “Hades” or Shoal which really means grave. Our Christian view of Hell is really from the book Detente’s Inferno, which based on Pagan belief as the same time Christianity was forming. Sorry, there is no story in the bible about a third of angels falling from God and forming Hell. Amazing to me, two religious sects believe in Hell, only the modern Christians and Muslims. I find it telling. A loving God that creates Hell for his creations. Here goes the complaining now.

    January 1, 2014 at 12:13 pm |
    • Cpt. Obvious

      Well, just because you slaughter an entire planet's worth of humans and animals (think of the kittens!!!) and just because you torture your enemies for all eternity in a pit of never ending fire, doesn't mean you can't tell people not to kill and to love their enemies. Oh, and there's rules on how much you can beat your slaves and when you can sell your children into slavery. It all makes perfect sense.

      January 1, 2014 at 12:25 pm |
      • stevec

        I understand your frustration, hopefully we can all try to get it right, its a matter of changing the way we think, Jesus did not think like us, that's why we killed him

        January 1, 2014 at 12:29 pm |
        • Cpt. Obvious

          I had no part in killing any human 2,000 years ago that may not have even lived. Silly.

          January 1, 2014 at 12:36 pm |
      • Walter Johnson

        Well Cpt, FYI, Stevec is absolutely right about the bible stating that people go to the grave at death. Paganism ,and Greek mythology about a "soul" being released from entrapment in the flesh at death have been baptized falsely into Christianity. No matter which way you choose to live your life on earth, a God given gift, choice, you don't have to worry about burning in "hell" when you die. Nobody is burning in hell right now, nobody, period. Though you may not understand the actions, or patience, of our, yes "loving" Creator God, you need not fear eternal burning in hell fire ever either. It's not eternal punishing, but punishment that lasts for ever. The punishment is the second death, and eternal separation from God and all that He has planned for those who love Him. Revelation 20:5-6, 11-15. To some it may not seem so obvious, but it's true.

        January 6, 2014 at 6:00 pm |
  12. Linda

    Do you know where you are going when you die? you don't want to be WRONG..

    When you die, you are going to stand before God and give an account for your life. Because God is good, He is going to judge you according to the perfect, moral standard of His Law. If you’ve ever lied, stolen, or taken His name in vain; He will find you guilty of breaking His Law. Because God is good, He must punish your sin; and the punishment for all sin against God is eternity in Hell. But God is also merciful, loving, and kind in that He provided one way to escape that punishment; and that was through the gift of His Son Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ: fully-God and fully-Man, without sin. He died on the cross a death He did not deserve, in order to take upon Himself the punishment you rightly deserve, for your sins against God. And then three days later He forever defeated sin and death when He rose from the grave. What God requires of you is that you repent (turn from your sin and turn toward God) and by faith alone, receive Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior.

    January 1, 2014 at 1:57 am |
    • J. Frank Parnell

      No one knows what happens after we die. You are making the assumption that whatever religion you have embraced is the correct one. You should get off your high horse and be a tad more skeptical.

      January 1, 2014 at 8:00 am |
    • sam stone

      your threats are laughable, linda

      if you are so sure of where you will spend eternity, why not go there now?

      January 1, 2014 at 2:43 pm |
    • Keeping It Real

      Linda,

      How could you ever trust such a character as that biblical "God" - a schizo, whimsical, petulant, narcissistic tyrant - who knows what new tricks it would come up with during "eternity"?!

      January 1, 2014 at 2:50 pm |
    • Now that's just stupid...

      Have you even read the bible? Try the story of Lot and what he did in the cave...not exactly moral. Of course at the beginning of the story he offered up his daughters to be gang r-aped, and in the middle your loving god did what to his wife for looking over her should?

      January 1, 2014 at 8:25 pm |
    • Wakeup America

      Linda, you are 100% correct and those that suggest you get off your high horse or "go there now" are never going to understand what you are talking about. If people didn't listen to Jesus in His time it will be even harder to convince those with blinders on now. The Bible calls us to spread the good news that Jesus came so we wouldn't have to be separated from God for eternity, which that in itself is hell. How it is received is not our business.

      January 2, 2014 at 1:04 pm |
      • Observer

        If America listens to what Jesus said, there wouldn't be so many hypocritical Christians picking on gays or pro-choice supporters since he never mentioned gays or abortion.

        January 2, 2014 at 1:09 pm |
    • d taylor

      how can it be by faith alone if the person is required to turn from sin. The Gospel of John never mentions repenting from sin as part of a person receiving eternal life not once.

      And John 20:31 says that this book was written to tell people how to have eternal life.

      John 20: 30, 31
      20:30 Now Jesus performed many other miraculous signs in the presence of the disciples, which are not recorded in this book.
      20:31 But these are recorded so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that by believing you may have life in his name.

      January 2, 2014 at 7:52 pm |
      • Linda

        A person is indeed justified by faith alone, but repentance and faith are two sides of the same coin. Also there are two kinds of faith – one is a kind that gives assent to the facts of Jesus but does not actually follow Him (no repentance and superficial) and the other is genuine saving faith (obeys Jesus).

        January 3, 2014 at 2:57 am |
    • d taylor

      So you are saying obedience actually gives a person eternal life and not faith (trust).

      Because you have redefine faith to mean obedience to fit your work salvation.

      look up the definition of faith,belief, trust you will not find obedience in the definitions below

      faith fāTH/ noun noun: faith
      1. complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

      be·lief biˈlēf/ noun noun: belief; plural noun: beliefs
      1.an acceptance that a statement is true or that something exists.

      trust trəst/ noun noun: trust
      1.firm belief in the reliability, truth, ability, or strength of someone or something.

      January 3, 2014 at 10:33 am |
      • ANDRES

        Its is because of my faith in and love for Jesus that I Willingly follow His law. Just as my love for my wife results in me wanting to do things for her whenever I can. The actions of people are the result of what is inside their hearts.

        January 6, 2014 at 5:36 am |
        • steven c

          Amen

          January 6, 2014 at 12:42 pm |
        • d taylor

          (The actions of people are the result of what is inside their hearts.)
          you are speaking about obedience

          the point is this, do you believe that is requirement for a person to have eternal life.

          what about the four soils in the The Parable of the Sower Luke 8: 4-15
          which of these received eternal life. The first soil is the unbeliever what about the other three are they believers.

          January 7, 2014 at 7:19 pm |
        • stevec

          I wonder what happening to Christians that profess their faith to God and Jesus, and continue to hate and not forgive.

          January 7, 2014 at 7:24 pm |
        • d taylor

          A believer is accountable to God. An example was the group getting drunk at the Lords supper in 1 Corinthians 11:17-34

          Look what has happened to some in verse 11:30 That is why many of you are weak and sick, and quite a few are dead.

          January 8, 2014 at 5:18 pm |
    • Fallacy Spotting 101

      Post by "Linda" is essentially an instance of the flawed argument known as Pascal's Wager.

      And Linda, I have to say, you must be pretty fucking stupid.

      January 4, 2014 at 12:02 pm |
    • Robert

      And if I do not bow before this loving Gawd of your he will punish me forever. Worship and adore me or I'm going to hurt you! You will suffer forever if you don't believe! And if you don't believe in this story you are inherently a bad person! Well I don't believe it never have and never will. So I guess your all knowing all omniscient loving Gawd made me a non-believer. All evidence points to your creator being a myth. Always has. You choose to believe it because you need to.

      January 11, 2014 at 4:20 pm |
  13. Pastor Bill Nap 3

    Romans 1:18-32 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (From The King James Bible!) Sincerely, Pastor Bill

    December 29, 2013 at 7:04 pm |
    • Jill

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      And remember, never pass up an opportunity to watch an elephant paint Mozart.

      December 29, 2013 at 7:50 pm |
      • ElectricLion

        Jill, that was wonderful!

        December 31, 2013 at 8:04 am |
      • J. Frank Parnell

        I have no idea if that was cut and paste or your own original work. Either way, kudos. Made my day.

        January 1, 2014 at 8:10 am |
      • Now that's just stupid...

        Who's holy scripture did you copy that from? That religion is much more rational than any I have heard of so far.

        January 1, 2014 at 8:28 pm |
      • Pastor Jill Follower

        I didnt think pastor bill could be made to look more ridiculous than he made himself look, but Pastor Jill did it. that was hilarious. thanks Pastor Jill

        January 4, 2014 at 5:45 am |
      • Robert

        I love it! Sign me up! Finally a Church that makes sense!

        January 11, 2014 at 4:23 pm |
    • sam stone

      Wow, pastor, a cut and paste!

      Pretty impressive, indeed

      Do you actually have parishoners who listen to this drivel?

      December 30, 2013 at 6:27 am |
    • Pete

      Yup and none of that has to do with gays as we know and understand it today. That's just a bunch of people in a cult worshipping a pagan god.

      December 30, 2013 at 3:48 pm |
      • Don Schenk

        I see that you have a censored Bible. Mine goes on to say that..."Therefore God gave them up to the lusts of their hearts to impurity...women exchanged natural relations for unnatural, and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another...receiving in their own persons the due penalty for their error." (Romans 1:24,26,27)

        January 2, 2014 at 10:05 am |
        • Pete

          They're still worshipping a pagan god in their cult, it has NOTHING to do with today's Christian loving gay couple. Christians like you are hysterical because of your bad reading comprehension.

          January 2, 2014 at 2:55 pm |
        • Don Schenk

          A "Christ loving gay couple" would be celibate, and not campaign to persecute the Church for calling sin sin.
          "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." John 14:15

          January 9, 2014 at 9:23 am |
    • ElmerGantry

      WOW,
      A great example of the religion equivalent of technobabble; religiobabble (TM)
      LOL

      December 31, 2013 at 5:44 am |
    • J. Frank Parnell

      Pastor Bill must have been a real hoot at the New Year's Eve party.

      January 1, 2014 at 8:04 am |
    • J. Frank Parnell

      I bet you were a barrel of laughs at the NYE party.

      January 1, 2014 at 8:07 am |
  14. X

    All of the resources of the executive branch should be controlled by a benevolent dictator committed to destroying political correctness. It's the only way to solve problems effectively, such as illegal immigration, gay marriage, etc.

    December 28, 2013 at 4:33 pm |
    • Guest

      Nope. Thanks for playing.

      December 28, 2013 at 6:54 pm |
  15. Derek

    Robertson looks like Bin Laden. Check out the camo, the beard, the gun, and the crazy religious delusions. Go speculate.

    December 28, 2013 at 11:18 am |
    • Opposing View

      guns are fun...bang bang-kind of like what I would like to do to all Atheists

      December 29, 2013 at 9:12 am |
      • sam stone

        Come and get us, pen-day-ho

        December 29, 2013 at 12:32 pm |
      • Opposing View

        Fake "Opposing View"... Stop using my name. Any worthless moron who has to highjack someone else's name is worthless indeed...

        December 29, 2013 at 12:44 pm |
      • ANDRES

        That is utterly disgusting!!! Look, if you have nothing constructive to further God's kingdom, then SHUT UP!

        January 6, 2014 at 5:41 am |
  16. Science Works

    No dougie the bible is full of BS like YOU !

    December 28, 2013 at 8:34 am |
  17. Douglas

    Phil got it right...the Bible condemns h-o–m-o behaviors in both the Old and New Testaments.

    A&E has come to its senses and GLAAD has gone back to partying in LA where it belongs.

    GLAAD cannot change the eternal word of God. When the pressure hit and the angry, pro-Phil emails and tweets
    poured into GLAAD's in box, they tucked their tails between their legs, folded up their tents and
    went back home.

    Priceless!

    December 28, 2013 at 8:31 am |
    • sam stone

      still on your knees, doogie?

      December 28, 2013 at 10:59 am |
    • midwest rail

      Delusional idiocy from our resident closet case.

      December 28, 2013 at 11:13 am |
    • Mary

      Bull. It was a publicity stunt. For attention. Similar to your cries for attention.

      December 28, 2013 at 12:10 pm |
    • Mary

      And chapter and verse where JESUS condemns being gay, please.

      December 28, 2013 at 12:12 pm |
    • Doris

      More insanity from the BB's very own gay Shaker.

      December 28, 2013 at 2:27 pm |
    • Pete

      "GLAAD cannot change the eternal word of God. When the pressure hit and the angry, pro-Phil emails and tweets
      poured into GLAAD's in box, they tucked their tails between their legs, folded up their tents and
      went back home.

      Priceless!"

      OH look another Christian lying for their god.

      December 30, 2013 at 3:49 pm |
  18. Reality # 2

    And once again some reality for the Robertson family and the other red-necks out there:

    o "Abrahamics" believe that their god created all of us and of course that includes the g-ay members of the human race. Also, those who have studied ho-mo-se-xuality have determined that there is no choice involved therefore ga-ys are ga-y because god made them that way.

    To wit:

    1. The Royal College of Psy-chiatrists stated in 2007:

    “ Despite almost a century of psy-choanalytic and psy-chological speculation, there is no substantive evidence to support the suggestion that the nature of parenting or early childhood experiences play any role in the formation of a person’s fundamental heteros-exual or hom-ose-xual orientation. It would appear that s-exual orientation is biological in nature, determined by a complex interplay of ge-netic factors and the early ut-erine environment. Se-xual orientation is therefore not a choice.[60] "

    2. "Garcia-Falgueras and Swaab state in the abstract of their 2010 study, "The fe-tal brain develops during the intraut-erine period in the male direction through a direct action of tes-tosterone on the developing nerve cells, or in the female direction through the absence of this hor-mone surge. In this way, our gender identi-ty (the conviction of belonging to the male or female gender) and s-exual orientation are programmed or organized into our brain structures when we are still in the womb. There is no indication that social environment after birth has an effect on gender ident–ity or s-exual orientation."[8

    3. See also the From the Philadelphia Inquirer review “Gay Gene, Deconstructed”, 12/12/2011. Said review addresses the following “How do genes associated with ho-mose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?”
    "Most scientists who study human se-xuality agree that gay people are born that way. But that consensus raises an evolutionary puzzle: How do genes associated with h-omose-xuality avoid being weeded out by Darwinian evolution?"

    http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/evolution/Gay-gene-deconstructed.html

    December 28, 2013 at 6:36 am |
    • BK

      Some choose most do not. To cite published work in order to prove every single gay person since the beginning of time is nonsensical. Some chose most do not. Whats your stupid point anyway?

      January 5, 2014 at 1:36 pm |
    • Really

      It is not for me to judge, BUT....... You have not given any PROOF.

      "Being Ho mo se x" as genetic (I was born that way) would go against evolution and existance.
      Ho mo se xes can NOT reproduce, therefore if it was genetic, then we would soon cease to populate this planet.

      Which gene is inherit to make someone BORN that WAY?
      What is next? Pedophiles saying they were born that way and should be accepted?

      January 7, 2014 at 1:04 pm |
  19. Surprise, Surprise

    A&E has decided to reverse their decision and star filming new episodes of DD in the spring WITH Phil Robertson back in the show.
    Big shock, right?
    DD got publicity, GLAAD got publicity; a win win sitch for all concerned.

    What a stunt.

    December 28, 2013 at 1:25 am |
  20. Honey Badger Don't Care

    He does get the bible wrong.

    He should be advocating for the kiIIing of gays, not saying that their lifestyle is wrong. Read the bible. It is a horrible book.

    December 27, 2013 at 11:15 am |
    • Joe Cool

      No – it's not a horrible book. I would give my reason but apparently my comments were probably deemed to spirtual for the Belief board. The irony.

      December 27, 2013 at 12:33 pm |
      • Joey

        NO, the most likely thing is that you are just not smart enough to figure out how to get around the dirty word filter.

        December 27, 2013 at 2:00 pm |
      • Dyslexic doG

        the irony is that you are simply using blocked words. no-one is preventing you from posting your fairy tales.

        December 27, 2013 at 3:08 pm |
      • Derek

        Joe Cool is too stupid to figure out why his comments are being blocked, even though it has been explained to him. That sure parallels his religious delusion nicely.

        December 28, 2013 at 11:16 am |
      • Opposing View

        will you marry me?

        December 29, 2013 at 9:11 am |
        • Opposing View

          Stop using my name. Any worthless moron who has to highjack someone else's name is worthless indeed...

          December 29, 2013 at 12:42 pm |
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