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April 5th, 2014
04:48 PM ET

Archbishop to vacate $2.2 million mansion

By Chandrika Narayan, CNN, and Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - After coming under sharp criticism and issuing an apology earlier this week, the Archbishop of Atlanta announced Saturday that he would vacate his $2.2 million mansion in early May.

The decision came after a meeting with members of several church councils and parishioners in Archbishop Wilton Gregory's headquarters north of Atlanta.

"I want to thank those parishioners whose prayers, counsel and concern brought this issue to light and ensured that their Archbishop was properly attuned to the important symbolism of simple actions and the challenges faced by many of the faithful in the Archdiocese of Atlanta," Gregory said in a statement.

There were nearly 60 people present at the closed-door meeting, said Pat Chivers, communications director for the Archdiocese of Atlanta. They included members of the Archdiocesan Pastoral and Finance Council, the Council of Priests and parishioners of differing points of view,

"He listened to everyone's concern ... there is tremendous love and respect for Archbishop Gregory, and support for his decision to move forward," Chivers said.

Gregory moved into the 6,000-square-foot home in Atlanta's upscale Buckhead neighborhood in January. It was built on land donated by Joseph Mitchell, nephew of "Gone With the Wind" novelist Margaret Mitchell.

The property will be sold and the proceeds invested in the needs of the Catholic community, according to the statement. The archbishop will move into another available Archdiocesan property.

Earlier this week, Gregory publicly apologized for building the mansion.

"What we didn't stop to consider, and that oversight rests with me and me alone, was that the world and the Church have changed," Gregory wrote Monday in the archdiocesan newspaper.

The archbishop's apology came just days after the Pope accepted the resignation of Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst, also known as the "Bling Bishop," who spent $42 million renovating his residence in Limburg, Germany.

Since his election last year, Francis has repeatedly urged Catholics to focus on income inequality and the suffering of society's marginalized. "Oh, how I would like a poor Church, and for the poor," he has said.

The Pope himself has eschewed many of the trappings of papal life, living in a small apartment in the Vatican guesthouse instead of the sumptuous apartment in the Apostolic Palace, and traveling in a small car instead of a limousine.

Francis' example has put pressure on American bishops to adopt similarly austere lifestyles, and it has emboldened rank-and-file Catholics to call them out if they fall short.

In the past year, Archbishop Jon Myers of Newark, New Jersey, has been criticized for planning $500,000 to outfit his retirement home with a elevator, exercise pool, hot tub and library.

Bishop Dennis Sullivan of Camden, New Jersey, was slammed for spending the same amount on a mansion in the suburb of Woodbury while presiding over one of the state's poorest cities.

Catholics in Charleston, West Virginia, have written to the Pope's ambassador, asking him to probe construction costs, including $7.5 million spent on the chancery, the diocese's central offices, according to the Charleston Gazette.

In Atlanta, Gregory said he had received "many ... heartfelt, genuine and candidly rebuking" e-mails, phone calls and letters during the past week.

"I failed to consider the impact on the families throughout the Archdiocese who, though struggling to pay their mortgages, utilities, tuition and other bills, faithfully respond year after year to my pleas to assist with funding our ministries and services," the archbishop said.

- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. ausphor

    It is a scam, from witch doctors to the pope and all of the clergy and evangelists until the present day are fraud artists, living off the poor and ignorant

    April 5, 2014 at 7:30 pm |
    • seedenbetter

      Poor, ignorant, gullible and deluded. They are all easy pickin's for all religious leaders/scammers.

      April 5, 2014 at 8:16 pm |
  2. Akira

    IMO, no pastor/priest/ministerbishop/WHAEVER should ever live in nicer quarters than his poorest congregant...unless that congregant is completely homeless.
    Then, that minister should offer shelter in his abode.
    I have felt this way for a while...of you're going to talk the talk of the humble Jesus, walk the walk.

    April 5, 2014 at 7:18 pm |
    • glennstehle

      Remember M. Charles Francois-Bienvenu Myriel, the "good Bishop" of Digne from Les Miserables? He personifies my ideal of what a good cleric should be.

      Given the broad appeal of the Franciscans among the common people and the consequent threat that it represented to the well-heeled clerical hierarchy, it is no wonder that Pope John XXII (1249-1334) condemned and hunted down the most zealous Franciscans, the so-called Fraticelli.

      April 5, 2014 at 7:43 pm |
      • ugetthefacts

        Franciscans were the primary group who sod-omized children in New York State. That is fact.

        April 5, 2014 at 8:01 pm |
      • Akira

        The establishment Catholics are certainly taking umbrage with Francis. It kind of amuses me, actually.

        April 5, 2014 at 8:07 pm |
  3. jrg

    He "failed to consider the impact on the families throughout the Archdiocese who, though struggling to pay their mortgages, utilities, tuition and other bills, faithfully respond year after year to my pleas to assist with funding.." of his 2.2M mansion? How possible out of touch with reality can this guy be? Even to make such a statement is hard to believe.

    April 5, 2014 at 7:10 pm |
    • tubal22

      He's completely in touch with reality. Why do you think he wanted to be the archbishop? To "guide the flock"? LOL

      April 6, 2014 at 12:40 am |
  4. phil221

    Rev Jeremiah Wright, 66, $1 million, 10,400 sq ft mansion, built by grateful parishioners. Was this built by grateful parishioners? How does an Archbishop get his hands on this kind of money? The fault also is with the people who allocated the funds, they should be investigated.

    April 5, 2014 at 7:09 pm |
  5. glennstehle

    I'm agnostic, so don't get into the religion-bashing of the militarnt atheists, nor the atheist-bashing of the militant religionists, nor the internicine battles between the various sects of Christians.

    But that said, I don't see why we can't give Pope Francis the benefit of the doubt, and accept his statements of conern for the poor at face value. Symbolism, after all, is of great value. The message the Pope is conveying must have rich Catholics, like Bill Simon, who in the 1980s launched a right-wing campain opposing the Catholic bishops' pastoral letter on poverty, rolling over in their graves.

    April 5, 2014 at 7:05 pm |
    • pepiopi12

      I appreciate your comment. Just for the record, I am not militant. I just see everyday priest and nuns and want to point out that you can't castigate all of them. Even the one above had likely contributed much to his community and everyone rushes to judgement. No one even takes into account the cost of homes in Buckhead or the fact he gave up the right to have children and the property is going back to the church anyway.

      April 5, 2014 at 7:09 pm |
      • glennstehle

        I live in Mexico, ac counrtry where almost 90% of the population profess to be Catholic, and about half of those say they attend mass weekly. So almost all political, economic, and social debate takes place within the context of the Catholic Church.

        Immediately after Pope Francis became pope, a group of Marxist Catholics published a scathing critique of him in one of the Mexico City dailies. It was based on the allegation that the new Pope had been too closely aligned with the rich and powerful of Argentina. But again, if that is true, all appearances are that he has experienced an ephiphany, and the Pope's pronouncements in favor of the poor have great symbolic value. So I'm not willing to join the Marxist Catholics in condemning him.

        April 5, 2014 at 7:22 pm |
    • ugetthefacts

      how about the pope denying children abused and denied help, suffering today? Or was your post a pretend agnostic?

      April 5, 2014 at 7:12 pm |
      • pepiopi12

        This particular Pope doesn't deny anyone's suffering. You need to differentiate the political from the spiritual. If we want to get on a high horse, us Americans should atone for slavery, current racism, give everything back to the Native Americans, Iraq, and just about every conflict the last 10 years. The fact that this was achieved on the backs of suffering does not make USA any less great. I am sorry for the people who were abused and every Catholic prays for them and their healing, even feels guilty but we can never make up for this on a political level anymore than USA can on slavery. Everyone has fallen short of the ideal is the point

        April 5, 2014 at 7:17 pm |
        • ugetthefacts

          he doesn't?? Is that why he enables bishops to lobby against children victims.

          Is that why he allowed the cover ups of abuse when he was cardinal and didn't speak out or even demand abused children be sought out and helped.

          You are a good catholic.

          April 5, 2014 at 7:59 pm |
  6. ausphor

    Any luck trying to shame the likes of Joel Osteen and his lilk out of their mansions and their private jets, not bloody likely.

    April 5, 2014 at 7:04 pm |
    • ausphor

      his ilk, sorry.

      April 5, 2014 at 7:05 pm |
  7. ugetthefacts

    Thankfully secular society does far more good than these money w-hore religions. In fact secular society has to reprimand organizations as the catholic church.

    April 5, 2014 at 7:00 pm |
    • pepiopi12

      I find that interesting. Please give us an example of a "secular" org able to take on the challenge of poverty. Logically, without beliefs, we are all the same flawed humans: subject to greed, pride, lies. I would welcome the example. DWB is probably the needle in the haystack and it is arguable even those folks have spend a lifetime bilking the insurance system, going on "conferences", and billing everyday folks $100 for 15 minutes. Not to mention medical professiong is replete with politics and greed itself comparable to lawyers.

      April 5, 2014 at 7:13 pm |
      • copanut

        You can't think of a single secular organization that does good? How about Doctors Without Borders? How about the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation? There are many examples. Get real.

        April 5, 2014 at 7:19 pm |
        • pepiopi12

          Again, I like DWB. I like BGF, but none can compare to the scale the Church. They have been around 20 years compared to 2000 years! I am being real

          April 5, 2014 at 7:32 pm |
        • Akira

          DWB has no strings attached. I agree that the Church does much good, but can it say the same?

          April 5, 2014 at 7:50 pm |
        • otoh2

          Don't forget, St. Jude Children's Hospital is wholly secular too:

          "We are not a Catholic hospital, nor are we affiliated with any religious organization."

          http://www.stjude.org/stjude/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=eb00ef5d00670110VgnVCM1000001e0215acRCRD

          April 5, 2014 at 7:57 pm |
        • ugetthefacts

          and those groups don't take a cut for themselves as the catholic church does. Taking a cut, denies those the money was meant for.

          April 5, 2014 at 8:02 pm |
        • copanut

          Pepi, you're still not quite being real. DWB has annual revenues (contributions and grants) of about $200 million, of which perhaps 80% goes to those in need and 20% goes to overhead. They don't hoard profits.

          The Vatican has amassed billions of dollars, conservatively estimated at $10 – $15 billion. That means that the church has annual earnings just based on those assets that already far exceeds the annual revenue of DWB. I'm just talking about earnings from assets, and not counting the doubtless tremendous revenues acquired from donations from their over one billion members. If every member coughs up $1 per year into the collection plate, that would be 5x the annual donations coming into DWB. It's a safe bet they pull in a lot more than that.

          Do they do that much more for the needy? Really? Not sure how you measure that, but I'm in serious doubt of it. I see no excuse for hoarding tens of billions of dollars while there is so much suffering where they could put that wealth to good use. Further, if DWB were shielding corruption like the Vatican does, they'd be shut down.

          Really no comparison here, I don't think.

          April 5, 2014 at 8:38 pm |
  8. NativeAnomaly

    It kind of reminds me of Hampton Court and another Prince of the Church. We know how that ended.

    April 5, 2014 at 6:56 pm |
  9. ugetthefacts

    a priest or bishop who gets caught stealing is fired. However abusing small children or the worst crimes of cover up they are protected.

    Defrocking is not getting fired. Deals are cut to pretend they are doing something, yet less than a .5% were ever defrocked. More so they got cushy jobs with full retirement.

    Yep, destroying children is OK with the pope and vatican

    April 5, 2014 at 6:56 pm |
  10. mirofr

    The local priest drives an Acura but banned from his church those that supposedly took donated cans of food without permission. He should instead reach out and try to help those that need to be helped. Nothing quite as disappointing as someone in a leadership role that can't lead and followers that follow blindly.

    April 5, 2014 at 6:52 pm |
  11. tavuka2

    the religious business has always been in the selling of lies and false hope... more and more people are relizing this with examples like this coming to hit them in the face of reality.. for more on the myth.. check out the web site Caesar's Messiah..

    April 5, 2014 at 6:50 pm |
  12. ugetthefacts

    catholic charities receives nearly 3 Billion Dollars in federal grants, our tax dollar.

    Parishes pay only 3% of the cost of catholic charities. Sounds like the US tax payer is the largest donor.

    April 5, 2014 at 6:49 pm |
    • pepiopi12

      Correct point, I looked that up and was educated, so thank you for that. Again, challenge is to find one organization that would step in and do a comparable job. You can't even pay a teacher 100k and give two months off every year to convince them to work in some places that the Church has presence in. How many of your charity CEOs are making millions and hiring their family and friends? Are they on-call anytime when you or your neighbor are sick, needs help you, or to bring the community together? No one group stands up for the poor than the Church. I think we are raising our children to be cynism that we worship entertainers and bash lay people. Again, no one is without sin or dirty deeds

      April 5, 2014 at 6:59 pm |
      • ssq41

        You, most of all, pepi...

        Your anger and childish namecalling is instructive...you should hurry down to the parrish, it is Saturday and the I'm sure you still have time to make Confession.

        Oh, and consider enrolling in the Archdiocese's Anger Management class.

        April 5, 2014 at 7:05 pm |
        • pepiopi12

          You are right, my apologies for being offensive to you and everyone.

          April 5, 2014 at 7:36 pm |
        • ssq41

          You didn't offend me. Just instructive...My former fundamentalist brothers and sisters are full of ignorant and arrogant anger....I anticipate it from them.

          I expect Catholics to be considerably more mature.

          April 5, 2014 at 7:41 pm |
      • ugetthefacts

        please don't include the catholic church and children in the same sentence.

        What is the pope doing to help the children victims suffering from the abuse cover ups? NOTHING. In fact the pope enables the bishops to lobby against them, to deny them again. Imagine these children suffering today as this pope parades around and people as you with your posts

        Your post is worthless.

        April 5, 2014 at 7:08 pm |
        • pepiopi12

          Because there child abuse existed, therefore the church has never done anything good for children and advocates their suffering? C'mon. The vows of priests and nuns are meaningful sacrifices, and the work of this vast group far outweighs. What about orphans? No group has done more for them!

          April 5, 2014 at 7:35 pm |
        • ugetthefacts

          what about orphanages? The one run by three priests in Florida? The children's graves?

          The Indian orphanage in Canada, more children graves?

          Boys Town USA, small children sold for s3x?

          April 5, 2014 at 8:44 pm |
  13. mattytwoshoes

    Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa.

    April 5, 2014 at 6:45 pm |
  14. tavuka2

    will be interesting who gets the money from the sale... a TAX FREE SALE AT THAT!!

    April 5, 2014 at 6:43 pm |
  15. lewcypher

    religion and the worship of god(s) .......... the ultimate ponzi scheme

    April 5, 2014 at 6:38 pm |
    • ugetthefacts

      the vatican with their popes, bishops and cardinals are proof of that

      April 5, 2014 at 6:40 pm |
    • NativeAnomaly

      It's sad,.

      April 5, 2014 at 6:52 pm |
    • pepiopi12

      If it weren't for religion you wouldn't have this beautiful country we live in!

      April 5, 2014 at 7:01 pm |
      • copanut

        You mean because the Founding Fathers were motivated to create a secular government due to disgust with the Church? True enough.

        April 5, 2014 at 7:21 pm |
        • pepiopi12

          Not quite what I meant. I mean the folks that first came were looking for religious freedoms and getting away from the taxes and discrimation of the King. Something the Founders may have acknowledged when they implemented a separate from church and state.

          April 5, 2014 at 7:30 pm |
  16. bellaterra66

    You just wonder what these Bishops and Archbishops are/were thinking of. I wonder if they think they deserve all this in exchange for being quasi-celibate all their lives.

    April 5, 2014 at 6:34 pm |
    • pepiopi12

      They give up way more than you can imagine Mr/Mrs. 666. You, nor anyone, can fathom the level of basic human needs they sacrifice so lazy asses can sit and comment on poverty and service from a distance.

      April 5, 2014 at 6:38 pm |
      • ugetthefacts

        I'd have to say Doctors without borders, for one, gives up far more. And when done, they don't go back to a castle.

        Vatican is a wealth w-hore

        April 5, 2014 at 6:40 pm |
        • pepiopi12

          Good comparison on DWB. They are solid. That said, they cannot give help people's spiritual needs, very limited % of population can join, and again, can't stack up to the amount work the Church does and can do. I wish you all would stop hating. For every molestor there is 1000 other priests and nuns doing the Lord's work . I don't see how you can judge until you give up your spouse, iphones, vacations, cars, house, retirement, etc.

          April 5, 2014 at 6:53 pm |
        • ugetthefacts

          ah, but they do more for spiritual needs. In fact they don't run around kissing deformed people, they actually do something.

          April 5, 2014 at 6:58 pm |
        • shortstone

          reply to pepiopi12: What makes you think that higher-up clergy are giving up anything on your list? Except for a legal spouse, of course, because that would be way too public and obvious. Even some of the lower serving clergy have some things on your list. Just like any organization, the church has good and bad. Unlike other organizations, the church is supposed to be above the material and everyday things that life offers. They are not and have never been wholly holy. Their problem is the progression of societal thinking and technology. They can no longer hide their misdeeds as they once could and are being caught out for the hypocrites they truly are. That's why all the pious are rising up and acting totally against the teachings of Christ. They are realizing that they are losing power so are trying to implement laws to gain some back and trying to elect reps that will do as they want while in office. Bunch of hateful and selfish people are ruining religion for the quiet ones who truly believe. I will be interesting to see where it all ends up because people are starting to realize what and who they believe in is a false representation of what it should be.

          April 5, 2014 at 8:47 pm |
      • tavuka2

        yeah.. tell that to the little alter boys who have given up even MORE..

        April 5, 2014 at 6:47 pm |
        • ugetthefacts

          yep, and the alter boys whose lives were destroyed are destroyed again by the pope and the vatican. The pope and vatican lobby against the children abused and suffering. Imagine that!

          April 5, 2014 at 6:50 pm |
        • otoh2

          (it's "altar", not "alter"... just fyi)

          April 5, 2014 at 8:34 pm |
        • ugetthefacts

          a Freudian slip. Guess their lives changed as a result of the abuse, alter.

          April 5, 2014 at 8:42 pm |
      • ausphor

        pepi...
        Of course it all depends what is "is" and those stains on your vestments, priest, bishop, cardinal....

        April 5, 2014 at 6:47 pm |
      • ausphor

        pepi ...
        Of course giving up reason and logic is a great sacrifice, what else did you have in mind?

        April 5, 2014 at 6:56 pm |
      • bellaterra66

        Are you feeling all right? You sound a little sick.

        April 5, 2014 at 8:30 pm |
  17. radar8

    Wow. It is beyond my comprehension why anyone would follow thieves like this Archbishop. The man is an outright criminal.

    The Church is rich beyond belief, yet constantly talks about helping the poor. How about you use some of those riches and land to help the poor. Maybe allow the homeless to live on those properties, or are they only for the Church elite? The Church is tax exempt, which means that the rest of us have to make up for what they don't pay.

    Tax-cheating, child-molesting, two-faced thieves.

    April 5, 2014 at 6:33 pm |
    • tavuka2

      This spending is really the norm for the catholic church... there is no surprise...here. but the money they get from the sale needs to be divided up among the church members... where it belongs.. but it will be sent to the pope ...

      April 5, 2014 at 6:37 pm |
    • pepiopi12

      I would take this man's record, flaws included against you any day radar – and I don't know either of you. I bet you never suffered for anyone more than a day or followed the Lord's example. You are the camel that cannot see going through the eye of the needle. Don't judge what you don't know CHUMP

      April 5, 2014 at 6:39 pm |
  18. ugetthefacts

    The vartican has been stealing since their inception.. Not to forget the crusades, Inquisition, assisting Hitler and the recent child abuse cover ups.

    The pope is playing a game, fooling and manipulating all. 'Look at meeeeee, I'm hummmmmmble!'

    And what has he done for the children victims suffering from the abuse cover ups today? NOTHING. Excpt to say, 'Look at meeeeeee. I'm hummmmble!'

    He enables the bishops to lobby to stop laws and continue the harm to all children victims.

    Not a nice person.

    April 5, 2014 at 6:08 pm |
    • pepiopi12

      First of all get your facts straight because the church is not allowed to take state grants. Second, I would love for you to visit the ghettos and orphanges of america or the war torn areas of Africa. Joel Osteen and the Pretty White Suburban Church you attend have 0 presence in these places. Its devoted priests and nuns that commit their lives to their fellow man. This small event is just a pebble compared to the good Catholics and the Church have done very day and throughout history! Everyone loves to act like a historian but forgets that all the good in this world is done at the ground roots, which the Church has always committed to. I am sick and tired of people running down good devoted people, it is you types that are ruining the world with your cynism and selfishness. I would love to see everyone here go through year after year of life without a bank account, a 401(k), weekends off, a car, a personal CPU, no free time (because folks like you expect them to be serving you 100% of every minute), exotic getaways. These are people too and we all are flawed! My guess is the cost of this house pales in comparison to the service this man has done his whole life.

      It is sad to see everyday American's only seeing the five inches in front of them and hating on everything and anything. Go back to your Costco and once a week Joel Osteen-money-grubbing-white washing-racist church. You people are the real scam on religion!

      April 5, 2014 at 6:34 pm |
      • ugetthefacts

        I see.. and the vatican has all that wealth while others suffer. And that includes stocks in bank of america for one.

        Fed grants are used to pay 67% of catholic charities operating costs. Get your facts right.

        Let's not forget recent money laundering in Italy

        April 5, 2014 at 6:38 pm |
        • pepiopi12

          Right, because you have to be rich to be a good Christian. Did Big Joel O teach you that? The Church has been around, oh, about 2 milennium longer than your Church and has reach every corner of the world. Of course it is going to gain assets and manage its wealth smartly. Stop hating because any organiziation would be doing the same. It could give up all its wealth tomorrow and cynical people like you would still drag the world down and cause poverty. Man's sins are permanent and unfixable

          April 5, 2014 at 6:43 pm |
        • pepiopi12

          Fair enough but what other choice does Fed have? Are the gay rights people helping orphans? Are the Catholic haters on this board doing anything in South Central? Somalia? Again, just proves my point that money is nothing. True good comes from the heart of people doing the deeds, not politicians or demogogues. In this vein, the Church' deeds has done more than any organization on Earth.

          April 5, 2014 at 6:49 pm |
        • ssq41

          "...Stop hating because any other organization..."

          Hmmm, any other organization gets taxed, to begin with.

          Gotta love it when someone diminishes their faith. And "man's sins are unfixable"?????

          You should consider doing a tour with the militant atheists. In a single sentence you have single-handedly made the Gospel of no effect.

          Bravo!

          April 5, 2014 at 6:52 pm |
        • logicdd

          I doubt I'll ever convince you because your hatred seems deep rooted and beyond any point of change. However, know that sniffing out only the stories of greed and abuse in the church while ignoring all the stories of actual progress for society that it brings pretty much negates all of your arguments to that of an obsessed critic with nothing better to do than make up facts against the church. We both know it. I recognize the flaws in the church. The difference between you and me is that you don't recognize that it does any good at all, which automatically makes all of your points look incredibly uninformed to the neutral commentator.

          April 5, 2014 at 7:51 pm |
        • ssq41

          Logic,

          In a world where the religious spend a signficant amount of time pointing out the sins of others while claiming that they are in relationship with the One who has set the moral standards...and then a significant number of them commit one of the most heinous of crimes against children and have leaders spend significant effort at covering it up...

          ...well, the genuine good that they do will be so completely eclipsed by their horrible acts.

          April 5, 2014 at 7:58 pm |
        • ssq41

          ...oh, and accusing someone of "hatred" just because they point out the sins of the ones who should know better tells me more about your inability to empathize...

          I hope you get a chance to suffer in such a way as those kids and their familes did...then maybe you'll understand the term humility.

          April 5, 2014 at 8:01 pm |
      • pherenes

        If only you could scourge yourself twice more a day, and finish the work you obviously love.

        April 5, 2014 at 6:50 pm |
  19. toujoursvrai

    I mean... all these beautiful words in this article. Isn't this considered to be "Stealing"? i mean, the land was donated but where did the money to build come from. Was it donated towards the building of a mansion for my lord? oh my God..

    April 5, 2014 at 5:54 pm |
    • doobzz

      ""I failed to consider the impact on the families throughout the Archdiocese who, though struggling to pay their mortgages, utilities, tuition and other bills, faithfully respond year after year to my pleas to assist with funding our ministries and services," the archbishop said."

      No shit.

      April 5, 2014 at 6:07 pm |
      • tavuka2

        the sheep have a purpose... to be fleeced...

        April 5, 2014 at 6:39 pm |
    • ugetthefacts

      the vatican is a wealth acc-umulator. Look at all the tax free properties they have at our expense. We'd pay less taxes if they paid their fair share.

      Add to this,, GRANTS. and lots of them. They pretend catholic charities is run with their own money when in fact it's tax payer money

      April 5, 2014 at 6:12 pm |
      • tavuka2

        the myth masters.... of lies... have the best business on the planet.. they can use threats to steal money and get to keep what they steal...tax free... billions and billions of tax free income... its all a scam..

        April 5, 2014 at 6:42 pm |
        • ugetthefacts

          I suppose facts aren't important to you. Understood.

          April 5, 2014 at 6:51 pm |
      • pepiopi12

        You would actually pay the same tax regardless. Just there would be another god-hating finger pointer beaucrat telling you where the wealth should go. We have an infinite supply of that and not enough people like priests and nuns

        April 5, 2014 at 7:07 pm |
        • ugetthefacts

          nope. Catholic church leaches off our tax dollar.

          April 5, 2014 at 7:10 pm |
        • pepiopi12

          It does the work our society deems unfit for themselves.

          April 5, 2014 at 7:32 pm |
  20. ausphor

    Poor baby. Next thing you know he will have to give up his pension and dress only in sack cloth and whicker sandals, Jesus like, not bloody likely.

    April 5, 2014 at 5:23 pm |
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