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April 5th, 2014
04:48 PM ET

Archbishop to vacate $2.2 million mansion

By Chandrika Narayan, CNN, and Daniel Burke, CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

(CNN) - After coming under sharp criticism and issuing an apology earlier this week, the Archbishop of Atlanta announced Saturday that he would vacate his $2.2 million mansion in early May.

The decision came after a meeting with members of several church councils and parishioners in Archbishop Wilton Gregory's headquarters north of Atlanta.

"I want to thank those parishioners whose prayers, counsel and concern brought this issue to light and ensured that their Archbishop was properly attuned to the important symbolism of simple actions and the challenges faced by many of the faithful in the Archdiocese of Atlanta," Gregory said in a statement.

There were nearly 60 people present at the closed-door meeting, said Pat Chivers, communications director for the Archdiocese of Atlanta. They included members of the Archdiocesan Pastoral and Finance Council, the Council of Priests and parishioners of differing points of view,

"He listened to everyone's concern ... there is tremendous love and respect for Archbishop Gregory, and support for his decision to move forward," Chivers said.

Gregory moved into the 6,000-square-foot home in Atlanta's upscale Buckhead neighborhood in January. It was built on land donated by Joseph Mitchell, nephew of "Gone With the Wind" novelist Margaret Mitchell.

The property will be sold and the proceeds invested in the needs of the Catholic community, according to the statement. The archbishop will move into another available Archdiocesan property.

Earlier this week, Gregory publicly apologized for building the mansion.

"What we didn't stop to consider, and that oversight rests with me and me alone, was that the world and the Church have changed," Gregory wrote Monday in the archdiocesan newspaper.

The archbishop's apology came just days after the Pope accepted the resignation of Bishop Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst, also known as the "Bling Bishop," who spent $42 million renovating his residence in Limburg, Germany.

Since his election last year, Francis has repeatedly urged Catholics to focus on income inequality and the suffering of society's marginalized. "Oh, how I would like a poor Church, and for the poor," he has said.

The Pope himself has eschewed many of the trappings of papal life, living in a small apartment in the Vatican guesthouse instead of the sumptuous apartment in the Apostolic Palace, and traveling in a small car instead of a limousine.

Francis' example has put pressure on American bishops to adopt similarly austere lifestyles, and it has emboldened rank-and-file Catholics to call them out if they fall short.

In the past year, Archbishop Jon Myers of Newark, New Jersey, has been criticized for planning $500,000 to outfit his retirement home with a elevator, exercise pool, hot tub and library.

Bishop Dennis Sullivan of Camden, New Jersey, was slammed for spending the same amount on a mansion in the suburb of Woodbury while presiding over one of the state's poorest cities.

Catholics in Charleston, West Virginia, have written to the Pope's ambassador, asking him to probe construction costs, including $7.5 million spent on the chancery, the diocese's central offices, according to the Charleston Gazette.

In Atlanta, Gregory said he had received "many ... heartfelt, genuine and candidly rebuking" e-mails, phone calls and letters during the past week.

"I failed to consider the impact on the families throughout the Archdiocese who, though struggling to pay their mortgages, utilities, tuition and other bills, faithfully respond year after year to my pleas to assist with funding our ministries and services," the archbishop said.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Catholic Church • Pope Francis

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  1. pmar2014

    Perhaps he could have adopted the middle ages custom of selling indulgences to finance his home building aspirations. After all, Martin Luther is no longer around to keep him honest.

    April 6, 2014 at 10:55 am |
    • Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

      I don't know about that, but it has been made clear to me today that not every child has been molested and not everyone lives in nice modest homes. Interesting stuff!

      April 6, 2014 at 11:13 am |
      • Alias

        You are the worst troll i've seen here in a long time.

        April 6, 2014 at 11:17 am |
        • midwest rail

          This is what happens when AB gets bored.

          April 6, 2014 at 11:18 am |
        • Heaven Sent

          I know, right?

          April 6, 2014 at 11:19 am |
        • midwest rail

          It's mildly more entertaining than the emotional-depth-of-a-prepubescent-Bieber-fan poetry, so that's a plus.

          April 6, 2014 at 11:37 am |
  2. soinab

    Faithful from all means, AND persuasions, give each Sunday to the Church, the biblical 10%. More than a donation, it seems like a contract that all must fulfill if they want to worship or hear the word of "God", wether they have or have not. God has no use for money. Charity exists in many forms, and the most useful are those that are performed on a daily basis towards fellow men.

    April 6, 2014 at 10:51 am |
    • Alias

      That 10% is why muslim communities unite and thrive. They use the money to support their local communities, while the catholics send it to the Vatican.
      Is there anyone here who doesn't know that the RCC is the richest organization on the planet? And possibly one of the most corrupt?

      April 6, 2014 at 11:10 am |
  3. soinab

    Glad that Francis is head of the Vatican, it was about time. Now, he needs to expose the child molesters, tar and feather the lot...in public.

    April 6, 2014 at 10:44 am |
    • igaftr

      They could sell ticket pay-per view, with the proceeds going to the church's victims. I think they would set an all time sales record. I'd pay to see that.

      April 6, 2014 at 10:47 am |
      • Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

        I may seem strange but I think the reward for the victim is built into the crime. That is just how these guys behave and lessons are learned. It's wrong, I know but everyone has that uncle or teacher or priest to screw them up. It is a right of passage.

        April 6, 2014 at 10:53 am |
        • Alias

          Seek professional help.

          April 6, 2014 at 11:03 am |
        • igaftr

          It is NOT a right of passage, and not everybody was molested. It is sickening to most people, and is not acceptable at any time. It is a crime and should be handled accordingly.

          April 6, 2014 at 11:05 am |
      • Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

        Ok I agree, that makes sense. They shouldn't take a man's house thought. Who did he molest?

        April 6, 2014 at 11:07 am |
    • Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

      I are suggesting that YOU aren't messed up like everyone else?

      April 6, 2014 at 11:06 am |
  4. misteragreeable

    Just remember, ladies and gents, to think about where your weekly donation goes in church every Sunday! Wow! So is this what jesus would do?

    April 6, 2014 at 10:40 am |
    • Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

      I think so. Most likely.

      April 6, 2014 at 10:44 am |
  5. Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

    I am not sure I understand the concern over this modest home. The man has to live somewhere. Does he have to live in a cave to make people happy?

    April 6, 2014 at 10:24 am |
    • Shane Destivelle

      Yes. All purveyors of religion, including religious priests, shamans, and any other god fraudsters should all live in isolated caves with no means of communication with the outside world whatsoever.

      April 6, 2014 at 10:33 am |
      • Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

        Well I have to disagree with that.

        April 6, 2014 at 10:36 am |
    • bellaterra66

      You're joking, right?

      April 6, 2014 at 10:34 am |
      • Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

        I am just saying you have to live somewhere. Not everyone wants to live in a shack.

        April 6, 2014 at 10:37 am |
      • soinab

        He ought to disgrace them, and take away whatever material goods they obtained from the faithful....at the very least.

        April 6, 2014 at 10:53 am |
    • misteragreeable

      This is what you would call modest? BA HAHAHAHA. Maybe in Southern California where home prices are disgustingly inflated.

      April 6, 2014 at 10:41 am |
      • Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

        I am just saying the man has a right to live in a decent home. You don't want property values falling because he built a totally small house. At least it has a little room.

        April 6, 2014 at 10:49 am |
        • pmar2014

          True. But a modest home could be a ranch style house in a middle class. The problem was he was going upscale with other people's money.

          April 6, 2014 at 10:52 am |
        • Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

          I just disagree that the man has to live like a pauper because of a few homeless people.

          April 6, 2014 at 10:56 am |
  6. thefinisher1

    Atheists have been shouting there is no God for thousands of years. Where's the evidence? Even with all their "logic", "reason", and so-called "evidence", they still haven't been able to prove they are 100% right.

    April 6, 2014 at 10:22 am |
    • Czechoslovakian Crotch Bugle

      You are weird.

      April 6, 2014 at 10:27 am |
    • moorhs

      They don't need to prove anything, you do.

      You're the one claiming that something exists that isn't visible.

      April 6, 2014 at 10:36 am |
      • stagg

        thumbs up.

        April 6, 2014 at 10:43 am |
    • lscot1

      Actually we don't need to show evidence that something doesn't exist. You apparently believe in something that you believe "exists" but have zero evidence. The burden of proof lies with you. Where is your proof?

      April 6, 2014 at 1:36 pm |
  7. woodin59

    Aside from the obvious and on going anger and disgust by the congregations on the misconduct & questionable behavior at best of the church hierarchy worldwide, I would be interested in learning/hearing the opinions of the nuns who serve the church and take a vow of poverty, what their uncensored take is on the free spending ways of their male counterparts parts.

    Shameful that Pope Francis' new order/conduct is now the excuse given to explain away pure bad judgement.and fleecing of donations.

    April 6, 2014 at 9:10 am |
  8. jaareshiah

    Only after coming under sharp criticism has Archbishop Wilton Gregory decided to vacate his $2.2 million mansion. Being an archbishop, is he not supposed to be well educated in the Bible, so that he should understand the pattern that Jesus set. But, obviously he knows little to nothing about the life course and pattern that Jesus set for his genuine followers.

    For example, after a scribe said to Jesus that "I will follow you wherever you go", Jesus responded: "Foxes have dens and birds of heaven have nests, but the Son of man has nowhere to lay down his head.”(Matt 8:20) Though Capernaum was his home base (Mark 2:1), in traveling in his ministry he had no real place he called "home" on the earth.

    The apostle Paul wrote to the Corinthians: "We are fools because of the Christ.....Down to this very hour we continue to hunger and thirst and to be poorly clothed and to be beaten and to be homeless."(1 Cor 4:10, 11) Paul too, because of following in Jesus "footsteps" (1 Pet 2:21) considered himself "homeless", traveling extensively in his missionary work to the "nations".(Acts 9:15, Paul went on 3 different missionary tours over about a 9 year period, from 47 C.E. to about 56 C.E.) Did either Jesus or Paul have a mansion in which to "lay down his head" ? No. Rather, they considered the ministry of making known the "good news of the kingdom" as the most important work to be done (Matt 24:14), not taking it easy in a mansion.

    When Jesus walked the earth, he could see that the Jewish religious leaders were greedy, "money lovers" (Luke 16:14), taking it easy and gave an illustration about them and the people they were supposed to be taking care of at Luke 16. Here he calls them "a rich man who used to dress in purple (color of royalty) and linen (fine clothing),enjoying himself day after day with magnificence (in luxury)." However, at the entrance to the "rich man's" villa, was "Lazarus....covered with ulcers and desiring to be filled with the droppings from the table of the rich man."(Luke 16:19-21)

    The Jewish religious leaders, pictured by "the rich man", were spiritually worthless, for they provided nothing but spiritual "crumbs" for Lazarus (Luke 16:21, KJV), that pictured the common people. The common people desired some spiritual truths but were only fed "crumbs", for the Jewish religious leaders had nothing more to offer, nor did they desire to give anything of substance spiritually even if they had any, which they did not.

    Hence, Archbishop Wilton Gregory is like those Jewish religious leaders whom Jesus likened to "a rich man" that loved money and what it can buy, while the common people were starving spiritually. Nothing is brought forth by him nor the Catholic church that is "true food and true drink."(John 6:55)

    Can Archbishop Wilton Gregory explain the depth of the book of Daniel regarding the ' king of the north and king of the south ' at Daniel 11 ? Can he explain the meaning of the book of Revelation concerning Revelation 6 and ride of the "four horsemen" that has been happening since the start of the "Lord's day" ?

    Can he explain the meaning of "new covenant" that Jesus established with his disciples and that replaced the old Law covenant ?(Luke 22:20) Can he explain what God's kingdom is and why it was created by Jehovah God that Jesus so beautifully explained through illustrations at Matthew 13 ? Can he explain the meaning of "the last days" that we are experiencing ?(2 Tim 3:1-5) And this is just the "tip of the iceberg".

    April 6, 2014 at 8:57 am |
    • midwest rail

      " Can he explain the meaning of "the last days" that we are experiencing ? "
      Men have been insisting we are living in the last days since roughly 40 A.D. There have been hundreds (more ?) of such predictions. They have all been wrong. So are you.

      April 6, 2014 at 9:01 am |
      • TruthPrevails1

        It's those thoughts of being in the last days that are dooming us and these dolts don't seem to care. Maybe if they stopped worrying about their imaginary friend returning to save them and looked at the reality of things, our species might stand a chance but instead they remain ignorant.

        April 6, 2014 at 9:08 am |
    • soinab

      Interesting comment, but somehow I have the feeling that your point had more to do with " the greedy Jews" more than the rest. Did you manage to squeeze an insult there? if so that was not nice

      April 6, 2014 at 10:43 am |
  9. sburns54

    Myers in NJ should be dumped next. It's not just the $500,000 addition to a million dollar home, for the bishop of the cash-strapped Newark diocese. He is arrogant, uncaring, and is being sued for protecting and covering up for pederast priests.

    April 6, 2014 at 8:26 am |
  10. ricardowilli

    It is sad what greed has done to humanity. How the people we give access and power over our lives use us for money and use that money for their own security. Can we blame them? We all want to be secured in this life. I think of the term "Christ in sheep's clothing." Christianity is becoming like a bus that left the station and real Christians are the "Forgotten ones." The churches seem to be no different in operation to that of the government and the people in Congress. Get my share from the people, suck them dry mentality, because without money there is no security. Sure they do good works, but not like Christ did?
    And please CNN there must be a way for people to see responses made to their comments without blowing up our emails with other peoples comments. I don't need 5 million responses in my inbox. Is that the best CNN can do with technology?

    April 6, 2014 at 8:12 am |
    • midwest rail

      Turn off the e-mail response option. At the top of the page, next to your screen name, is a small dialog icon. Click on that icon to see who responds to your comments. (At least, the icon is on my page, I'm only assuming it is on yours as well.)

      April 6, 2014 at 8:16 am |
      • ricardowilli

        The only one I see is turn off notification of follow up emails. I have that turned off, but is there one that would have allowed me to see just your response to me?

        April 6, 2014 at 8:39 am |
        • ausphor

          ricardowilli
          Not sure how that works, but I found it best to use an e-mail address that I set up but never visit. Using an address that you use for business or communication with friends should not be done.

          April 6, 2014 at 8:48 am |
  11. ugetthefacts

    Clearly the catholic church treats their priests, bishops and cardinals with great life styles.

    However women treated as 2nd class. Nuns make virtually no money and live in group homes.

    April 6, 2014 at 8:00 am |
  12. pmar2014

    It was only after heavy criticism from various sources that this guy was "moved" to sell the mansion. It's unfortunate he didn't eschew the trappings on his own volition. Makes me wonder why he entered religious life in the first place. To get rich?

    April 6, 2014 at 7:55 am |
    • ugetthefacts

      wealth and power,, how many catholic bishops live in poverty?

      Ever check out the living arrangements of cardinals? Quite spectacular. Yet children starve and child abused by the cover ups suffer.

      April 6, 2014 at 7:58 am |
  13. pmar2014

    One doesn't need to be a part of any church synagogue, mosque, etc. to believe in God. Better to give your money directly to the poor. Eliminate the middle man.

    April 6, 2014 at 7:52 am |
    • beliepher

      One doesn't need to believe in God to give to the poor.

      April 6, 2014 at 9:00 am |
  14. pmar2014

    What is the other diocesan property that he is going to move into? I will be giving much to the collection plate. It appears that the funds aren't really needed.

    April 6, 2014 at 7:44 am |
    • ugetthefacts

      Ever watch the priests roam nursing homes, looking for cash from those who are reaching the end of their lives.

      They are taught on how to manipulate and con. I remember one priest who had worn out shoes so my parents bought him a new pair. The next time my parents saw him he wasn't wearing the new shoes. They asked why. He said he gave the shoes to a man who had none.

      It was a con. I worked in the rectory as a kid, he had an enormous wardrobe. The old shoes were to fool parishioners.

      Add to this, parishioners use to shake his hand while stuffing a $20 bill in his jacket pocket. Yep, tips I guess. I later figured he made quite a bit of money.

      They are taught well.

      April 6, 2014 at 7:54 am |
  15. ugetthefacts

    Yet another great coverage of the popes, cardinals and bishops crimes against children and their manipulations.

    Just 6 days ago

    google 'NYTIMES the-shame-of-the-church'

    April 6, 2014 at 7:41 am |
  16. kingazuraz

    So the catholic religious order has mansions worth millions and millions of dollars while single mothers of their faith and flock fight for every penny and every scrap of food they can get to feed their kids. Typical.

    Makes me more and more less religious.

    April 6, 2014 at 7:21 am |
  17. alexlehm

    Nothing compared to this guy Tebartz-van Elst who spent $40m+ on his humble residence in Germany.

    April 6, 2014 at 6:56 am |
  18. tysmuch

    1 Nephi 13:8
    "And the angel spake unto me, saying: Behold the gold, and the silver, and the silks, and the scarlets, and the fine-twined linen, and the precious clothing, and the harlots, are the desires of this great and abominable church."

    April 6, 2014 at 2:01 am |
    • zendraxus

      Over and over we read in the New Testament how the rich will get theirs in the afterlife...couple that with "vengeance is mine saith the lord" and the corrupt clergy can enjoy their ill gotten gains openly. This neat little combo works well protecting the traditional rich as well, is why a certain party is fighting just as hard as the churches to keep the con alive.

      April 6, 2014 at 2:47 am |
    • otoh2

      tysmuch,

      What makes you think that an "angel" said that? It sounds like the words of a number of expressive and loquacious poets, philosophers, song lyric writers, etc. over the eons.

      April 6, 2014 at 3:00 am |
    • lscot1

      The problem with the quote by Nephi is that he never existed. The book of mormon was written by J. Smith. There is literally no evidence that the native americans are related to the jews. In fact, there is evidence to the contrary. The BOM mentions elephants. There were none in the new world. It mentions iron weapons. None in the new world. It mentions chariots. None in the new world. Fiction.

      April 6, 2014 at 1:43 pm |
  19. colin31714

    Has anybody here ever been to a Catholic mass? It’s weird. At one point, they truly believe that grocery store bread and wine is changed into flesh and blood because the priest says some words over it. And, I don’t mean symbolic – they actually think it changes. The doctrine is called transubstantiation. This is what the grown adults there believe, too – it’s not just a story for their little ones.

    In other parts of the event, they think silent thoughts like, "please God bring peace to Israel," or something like that, and they think that a being that created the entire Universe and its billions of galaxies is somehow hearing their thoughts and will intervene to alter what would otherwise be the course of history to answer their requests. Once again, the adults believe this, not just the really young children.

    Wow, just wow.

    April 6, 2014 at 1:58 am |
    • fsamvura

      Hello Colin31714,
      Faith is a Gift. The Giver of this Gift has a power and authority such that His choices can't be understood as there is no such authority we can compare with. Having said that, this Gift can be requested.
      There is a perception that Children are supposed to believe in God more than adults. This is not correct, Children believe naturally in everything. This is something adults loose over time. It does not mean that children believe in the Body of Christ (There is a lot about this and I can't cover it here) per se. As for adults, a belief leads to actions. Saying that all adult believe in receiving the Body of Christ every time is not correct. The Body of Christ is food along the way: sometimes you need it some times you don't. Your Body takes what it needs.
      Going back to Faith being a gift is what should matter. Faith is not something you deduct (though there is more than rationality in having Faith), increase or decrease by your own choosing. You can decide to reject Faith, but if you need to achieve a goal, you will still achieve it, only at your loss.
      The rationality of Faith is actually all around us: it is my opinion that an adult can't live fully without faith. And trust me, it is not something I could have said before I turned 23.
      Though only meant to give you some 'Of Course!' moments along your journey, the rationality of Faith is simple: The Motive.
      In other words, there is no gain in lying to us. People literally died for this. I won't even cover Christ as His target was Death itself. I will talk about the little men who 'lost' their time writing stuff no one would buy or read for that matter. Something that even themselves would not understand unless they go to the future. Indeed, many things in the Bible are only understood a long time after those who heard it died. I will give the example of Daniel. His writing could be considered foolish and indeed a man would have lost quite some time writing this. And nobody in his time would even understand his writing. But I can tell you, his writings dictate the area we call 'politics'. Faith coupled with rationality does wonders, but the first thing is to know it is a Gift. All the science Vs Faith arguments are unfounded. The Scriptures gave more Science at their times than could have been deducted. The Evolution story isn't very different from the Days of creation. Only that people knew it well before they could find fossils. In any case, this Gift has many gifts of its own. Be blessed.

      April 6, 2014 at 6:41 am |
      • TruthPrevails1

        Oh dear, someone has totally failed to see or comprehend that evolution and the creation story are not even close to one another...one is based on evidence, the other myth. Stating you have faith is to admit you don't care about actual evidence and are willing to accept things based on stories told....the true lazy mans way of getting by in this world-so much more honest to admit to not knowing than to claim faith.

        April 6, 2014 at 6:47 am |
        • fsamvura

          Hello TruthPrevails1,
          I like your name for its truth. So, following your name: Truth is not what people accept. Truth has its own witness and that witness is enough. About evidence of evolution and myth of creation, I would tell you to read the Bible at the time it was written. This is of course not possible. But put yourself in the shoes of those who did. After, jump to the evolution movement and tell me if something doesn't sound familiar. First, the sequence of creation is copy-pasted into evolution. There could have been many ways to get where we are. A non-scientist wouldn't have thought of writing that plants came before animals. Indeed, some animal eat dirt and many more don't breath oxygen the way we do. And there are so many other 'Findings' that could be seen already told by the Bible. But the may point is not how we got here. The main point is why we got here and where we should head to. Be blessed.

          April 6, 2014 at 6:56 am |
        • TruthPrevails1

          We know that since the time of the writing of the bible, we have learned much and that the bible has been shown to be false on many things. The creation story is one man, one woman but yet we know that we are directly related to apes.
          We need to focus on saving this planet-our main resource for survival, instead of 'hoping' some dead creature returns to save us...what can we do ourselves??

          April 6, 2014 at 7:09 am |
        • fsamvura

          I thought I had replied to you TruthPrevails, but I guess I didn't. First, one's need to fully be serious when making arguments. The Bible is not a story book. You do not read the story of characters portrayed, but the story of the world at once. For the creation story, how would you interpret the days of God? Do you need to be told that one day for God is not one day for man? But for your sake, this is actually written in the Bible. As for us being related to apes, I would say that we are related to many things if you want to limit the areas of comparison. For example, our molecular consistence is similar to that of pigs, our lungs are similar to that of many animals...as mammals, we're not short of relatives. Well, the relation is there, but without trying to argue with you, I would remind you that no 'direct' link has yet been establish. Indeed, such link cannot be established, because if it were, the intermediate being would be existing. Two extremes can't exist without the link existing. In the Amazon, both apes and Humans may have coexisted for ages, I suppose the intermediate being must be found. Plus by incrementally 'evolving', reproduction should have been continuous and the would be several levels of intermediate beings. Just like humans' skin color shows several intermediates between races.

          April 22, 2014 at 11:00 pm |
        • TruthPrevails1

          First off the bible has been proven wrong and your god can't be proven outside of it to exist.
          Second, RNA alone proves that we are directly related to Apes...for this I'm sorry the education and your parents failed you.
          Now next time, try to join the present conversations and stop being a dolt-much like your bible the article you're commenting on is out of date and no longer important.

          April 23, 2014 at 4:56 am |
        • fsamvura

          Hello TruthPrevails1, I can feel you are more angry against the Bible. I can't understand why as there is nobody forcing you to act any differently. As for your insistence on finding a relative in apes, you still have the 6 Billion humans to deal with first...
          For the existence of God, your acceptance or refusal is unfortunately not my concern other than wishing you the best in your own knowledge. Sometimes the perspective is such that you can't see larger things because you focus on your own level (for example trying to find a ape relative but not giving much consideration to your own neighbor). God fills the universe and more, so it is not easy to see him without first looking at much smaller things like the birds flying. I comment not because the article is on fashion, but because your deserve a response and because I consider this matter to be of the most importance.

          April 23, 2014 at 10:41 pm |
        • TruthPrevails1

          You dolt, lets get this straight...your god-no matter what you or any other christard says, can't be proven to exist...grow up!
          Not angry with a book-that's a ludicrous statement on your behalf showing your delusional state of being.

          April 24, 2014 at 6:17 am |
      • sam stone

        "faith is a gift"

        faith is a drug

        April 6, 2014 at 7:53 am |
      • lscot1

        Faith is a trap. It teaches you to NOT look for evidence. Believers don't need evidence. They blindly believe something. What kind of god would want his followers to just blindly follow along, without thought? There are lots of arguments against religious belief. The requirement of blind faith is one of the best.

        April 6, 2014 at 1:46 pm |
        • fsamvura

          Hi Iscot, I had not noticed your reply. I do not know where it is asked to believe blindly. I sincerely don't believe blindly. There is actually too much to see that not believe is an action of wanting to be blind. As believers, we are always asked to discern things. Ourselves, others and our environment. Having said this, Faith is an act of trust after experiences. There are events that lead to Faith. And these events allow us to progressively put Faith in God. Just like when you learn new things, trust is the first step. As for evidence, there are too many of them. Evidence is what makes our Faith. From the evidence of the Bible to all the Churches built. What do you call evidence? Isn't it evident that Jesus was someone important enough for you to at least learn to know? The least you can do is try. You'll tell me all religions were founded by great men. Then search for God in the best way you can and with an open heart. Those who did found God easily even when they were not 'chosen'. So, the ball is in your court. Some evidences: the Bible, the story of Christ, the history of the Church (like finding Peter's bones in Rome where the Church knew he would be) and the world in general.

          April 22, 2014 at 10:50 pm |
    • ugetthefacts

      it's a cult.

      Imagine a little kid told he's a sinner? Reducing the victim is what terrorist do to members. The child is then told of a place were he will get painful third degree burns with ugly monster who will eat them. Terrorist use fears to continue the brainwashing.

      Now imagine they show you a guy on a cross who is 'on your side' but they harmed him. You have to know fight for this guy.

      Then you eat the guys flesh and drink his blood.

      That is some pretty rotten stuff to do to children which is why you will see some posters who actually support thee religion with awkward deflections that make no sense. Logic vanishes with those brainwashed.

      April 6, 2014 at 8:05 am |
    • ausphor

      colin...
      Never been to a ma-$$, can you get a Ritz cra-cker and a Bud instead?

      April 6, 2014 at 8:26 am |
  20. bozobub

    I really like this Pope, and I'm not even remotely Christian, much less Catholic (Deist, if it matters). I have to respect any religious figure who truly tries to live up to the best aspects of their faith.

    It's like sighting a unicorn or something..!.

    April 6, 2014 at 12:27 am |
    • calebboone

      Dear Unicorn:

      You're right.

      Have a Dovely.

      Sincerely yours,
      Caleb Boone.

      April 6, 2014 at 6:34 am |
    • ugetthefacts

      OK priest

      April 6, 2014 at 8:05 am |
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