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Is the Internet killing religion?
A new study suggests that the Internet may play a role in the demise of organized religion.
April 9th, 2014
12:17 PM ET

Is the Internet killing religion?

By Jessica Ravitz, CNN

(CNN) We can blame the Internet for plenty: the proliferation of porn, our obsession with cat videos, the alleged rise of teen trends like - brace yourself - eyeball licking.

But is it also a culprit in helping us lose our religion? A new study suggests it might be.

Allen Downey, a computer scientist at Olin College of Engineering in Massachusetts, set out to understand the national uptick in those who claim no religious affiliation. These are the “nones,” which the Pew Research Center considers the fastest-growing “religious” group in America.

Since 1985, Downey says, the number of first-year college students who say they're religiously unaffiliated has grown from 8% to 25%, according to the CIRP Freshman Survey.

And, he adds, stats from the General Social Survey, which has been tracking American opinions and social change since 1972, show unaffiliated Americans in the general population ballooned from 8% to 18% between 1990 and 2010.

These trends jibe with what the Pew Research Center’s Religion & Public Life Project reported in 2012. It said one in five American adults, and a third of those under 30, are unaffiliated.

Downey says he stepped into the ongoing debate about the rise of the "nones" not because he has a vested interest one way or the other, but because the topic fascinates him. He says it’s good fodder for study and appeals to students who are learning to crunch real data.

In his paper “Religious affiliation, education and Internet use,” which published in March on arXiv – an electronic collection of scientific papers – Downey analyzed data from GSS and discovered a correlation between increased Internet use and religious disaffiliation.

Internet use among adults was essentially at zero in 1990; 20 years later, it jumped to 80%, he said. In that same two-decade period, we saw a 25 million-person spike in those who are religiously unaffiliated.

People who use the Internet a few hours a week, GSS numbers showed Downey, were less likely to have a religious affiliation by about 2%. Those online more than seven hours a week were even more likely – an additional 3% more likely – to disaffiliate, he said.

Now, Downey is the first to point out that correlation doesn’t necessarily mean causation.

But he was able to control for other factors including education, religious upbringing, rural/urban environments and income, to find a link that allowed him to “conclude, tentatively, that Internet use causes disaffiliation,” he said.

“But a reasonable person could disagree.”

The Internet, he posited, opens up new ways of thinking to those living in homogeneous environments. It also allows those with doubts to find like-minded individuals around the world.

He believes decreases in religious upbringing have had the largest effect, accounting for 25% of reduced affiliation; college education covers about 5% and Internet use may account for another 20%.

That leaves 50% which he attributes to “generational replacement,” meaning those born more recently are less likely to be religiously affiliated – though he doesn’t attempt to explain why that is.

The Pew Research Center has offered its own theories.

One explanation Pew gives is that our nation is experiencing political backlash – "that young adults, in particular, have turned away from organized religion because they perceive it as deeply entangled with conservative politics and do not want to have any association with it."

More specifically, Pew explains, this brand of religion and politics is out of step with young adult views on same-sex rights and abortion.

Postponement of marriage and parenthood, broader social disengagement and general secularization of society may also play a part, according to Pew.

But to be religiously unaffiliated doesn’t require a lack of faith or spirituality, researchers say.

Yes, the "nones" group includes those who might call themselves atheists or agnostics. But it also accounts for many – 46 million people – who don't belong to a particular group but are, in some way, religious or spiritual, according to Pew.

This is all part of the changing face of society and faith, and where the Internet fits in is just part of a complicated puzzle.

The evolving landscape includes plenty of people who go online in search of spiritual and religious sustenance, said Cheryl Casey, who delved into the issue for her 2006 dissertation.

Casey, now a professor of media, society and ethics at Champlain College in Vermont, wrote about the “revirtualization of religious ritual in cyberspace” and the morphing relationship between technology and religion.

That Downey would find a correlation, that the Internet is increasing disaffiliation, makes perfect sense to her.

"The institutional control over the conversation is lifted, so it's not just a matter of more churches to choose from but more ways to have that conversation and more people to have that conversation with," she said Wednesday.

People move away from formal affiliation and toward what she calls "grass-roots religious exploration," where "the nature of the medium allows for those conversations to grow organically."

Innovations have long played a part in influencing religion, she said, and will continue to.

Something she wrote back in 2006 said it best.

“When a new technology, such as the printing press or the Internet, unleashes massive cultural change, the challenge to religion is immense. Cultural developments change how God, or the ultimate, is thought of and spoken about,” she wrote.

“The dynamics of this transformation, however, await continued investigation.”

- CNN Writer/Producer

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soundoff (1,632 Responses)
  1. auntiekale

    Religion is the lack of knowledge, the lack of learning. It is pure wishful thinking. The internet is a great source of knowledge and learning. Of course it stands to reason that the dim light of gods/souls/demons etc will be extinguished...

    May 26, 2014 at 1:21 pm |
  2. Blessed are the Cheesemakers

    I do know for a fact whether I have dragon or not....or do I? Is it possible that I believe something to be true, that is not in reality true? Yes...that is called delusion. Peolple often believe things to be fact that are not facts, and how do we tell the difference?

    May 26, 2014 at 2:25 am |
  3. jamesinsf

    It's not the Internet killing religion, it is access to knowledge, facts, and accurate information about the origins of most of the major world religions that is killing people's interest in religion. Knowledge is power and religion has long claimed to be the sole purveyor, arbiter, and ultimate authority of knowledge and truth: it is neither.

    May 25, 2014 at 10:32 am |
  4. 19covenant19

    Most Superb and Amazing MIRACLES have been discovered in the BIBLE!
    (Genesis & Deuteronomy & Psalms & Matthew & .....)

    Absolutely see it, and you SHALL believe!

    http://www.holy-19-harvest.com
    BIBLICAL EXCELLENT MIRACLES

    May 25, 2014 at 6:15 am |
    • skytag

      That's just sad.

      May 25, 2014 at 6:38 pm |
  5. Cybershaman

    Have the moderator gods shined upon us yet? 😀

    May 24, 2014 at 10:00 am |
  6. idiotusmaximus

    Is the Internet killing religion?

    Sure hope so......it needs to die.

    May 23, 2014 at 2:03 pm |
    • awanderingscot

      "For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven, And do not return there, But water the earth, And make it bring forth and bud, That it may give seed to the sower And bread to the eater,
      So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, But it shall accomplish what I please, And it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it". – Isaiah 55:10-11, NKJV

      no, were not going away, wishful thinking on the part of the devil and his children.

      May 24, 2014 at 1:46 am |
      • skytag

        Quoting the Bible may reinforce your brainwashing, but it accomplishes nothing else. And the devil is just a fictional character in a fictional narrative.

        May 25, 2014 at 6:40 pm |
        • awanderingscot

          But you, Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book until the time of the end; many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall increase." – Daniel 12:4, NKJV – "knowledge shall increase" indeed the Internet is a big part of this prophesy.

          And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come. – Matthew 24:14, NKJV – "all the world" and "all the nations", with the Internet this prophesy has become a reality.

          May 25, 2014 at 6:49 pm |
        • skytag

          More religious drivel that proves nothing. You believe what you believe because you want to believe it. You "see" what you want to see. Wanting something to be true doesn't make it true.

          May 26, 2014 at 5:03 am |
  7. hillelariess

    It's not killing religion, it's enlightening people. The choices they make afterwards are educated choices. If escaping ignorance with information is considered killing then the writers priorities are askew...

    May 23, 2014 at 10:48 am |
    • tubsman

      Yes. I always use the internet to get me some enlightenment. That's where all of life's answers are found.

      May 23, 2014 at 4:46 pm |
  8. jknbt

    hey zilla and hot– God doesn't have to prove anything to you. He is not playing a game of "Let's Make a Deal" with you. (That was a doofy game show with Monte Hall years ago if you are too young to know what that is...contestants would "deal" with Monte Hall buying door # 1, door # 2, or door # 3)

    He did something even more impressive, dramatic, and amazing than uprooting Pike's Peak and throwing it into the Pacific Ocean...he sent his son Jesus into this pigsty and quagmire of a world. And more than that, he sent Jesus to the cross and hell in YOUR PLACE. Jesus took on your punishment that you deserve. All you have to do is accept it. If you are too proud and stubborn to do that, he is not going to put on a miracle show for you to try to win your approval. If you want a miracle show, go see the magician act there the next time the carnival is in town.

    So this is not a game of Let's Make a Deal. God says, "THIS IS THE DEAL." It is up to you to accept it or reject it. Sounds like you would rather die and go to hell than repent. If you repent and ask that God open your eyes to see Jesus on the Cross and what that means, he will work with you. Otherwise you will have all the "proof" you need after you die. It will be too late to repent then.

    May 23, 2014 at 10:11 am |
    • hotairace

      Alleged. Allegedly. Unproven. No evidence. Get back to us when you have a little more than a delusional rant.

      May 23, 2014 at 10:15 am |
      • jknbt

        May God have mercy on your soul. You will have all the proof you need someday.

        May 23, 2014 at 10:37 am |
        • hotairace

          Fuck you and your, alleged but never proven, gods.

          May 23, 2014 at 10:55 am |
        • jknbt

          people that don't have anything intelligent to say always fall back on insults.

          May 23, 2014 at 11:13 am |
        • hotairace

          Pardon me! I didn't mean to insult you, or your non-existent gods.

          May 23, 2014 at 11:15 am |
        • jknbt

          See– you can repent! May the day come whe you apologize to God for insulting him, and when you accept him at his word. Then Jesus will show you all the proof you need.

          May 23, 2014 at 11:38 am |
        • hotairace

          I didn't repent and I didn't actually apologize. Fuck Off!!

          May 23, 2014 at 11:43 am |
        • awanderingscot

          Hot *Air*
          don't like the comment? too bad. you can't stop us, but you can go back over to your own blog:

          [atheists.blogs.hateful.godless.com/immoral/profanity]

          May 24, 2014 at 10:34 am |
        • skytag

          "You will have all the proof you need someday."

          Yeah, right. Sure we will. One day. Someday. You just wait. It will happen. I'm sorry, how many centuries have you gullible fools been saying this?

          May 25, 2014 at 6:42 pm |
    • zhilla1980wasp

      jknbt:

      that is where you are wrong, jesus god in human form said that if you had enough faith you could place your hands on the sick and heal them, tell mountains to throw themselves into the sea, basically said anything you prayed for would come true if you only had faith.

      so if you can't do as your demi-god jesus stated; mind you this is his words heard by prophets; then either you are a failure as a christian or your god isn't real.

      another verse i like is the one where elijah "proves" to 400 baal followers their god isn't real by them holding a 3 day ceremony, yet in a single asking god burns to ashes water soaked logs and offerings.........then ofcourse elijah couldn't let those filthy baalians live so he had them all chased down the hill and massacred.

      May 23, 2014 at 11:29 am |
      • jknbt

        my aged mother had a stroke a few years ago on her birthday, no less. She was on her back with limited use of her left side. We prayed for her, and she was up walking again and recovered enough to live on her own alone in 3 weeks. She was fully recovered in 6 month. Good job, God!

        The neighborhood had a thief breaking into everyone's houses by day. I spoke Jesus' Name over my doors & windows and commanded the devil to stay away in the name of Jesus. I was the only house on the block that was not broken in on. The neighbors thought I was doing it! I called down judgement on the thief. One afternoon during the week, I had to stop in at the house for a minute. Going out of the subdivision to get back to work, I pulled in at the red light behind a police car. Ahead of him was an orange car. The cop pulls over the car as we all turn left at the light. Sure enough, it was the neighborhood thief. I not only got my prayer against him answered, God worked it out so I got to witness the arrest. He was caught with a car load of stuff he had just stolen. Good job, God.

        I have dozens of other examples. It is more important to me that my mom is well than seeing pikes peak disappear into the pacific. This may not impress you, but I think both examples are victories.

        May 23, 2014 at 12:23 pm |
        • hotairace

          Now all you have to do is provide specific evidence to support your claims and show that your request for divine intervention was what caused the events you claim. You might see "correlation" but you have not proved "cause and effect."

          May 23, 2014 at 12:30 pm |
        • jknbt

          hot buddy, I don't have to prove anything to you. My mom was on her back in the hospital. The neurologist diagnosed stroke. She was up and about in 3 weeks. She was recovered in 6 months. All of this happened because of the power of Jesus' Name. That's all the cause and effect I need to know.

          May 23, 2014 at 12:46 pm |
        • otoh2

          jk,

          Hospital? Neurologist? Why?

          Do you know that they have successes with stroke patients all the time? Even with people who wish upon stars or stick pins in voodoo dolls, or who do no fantasy incantations at all?

          May 23, 2014 at 12:57 pm |
        • jknbt

          hey otoh– hang onto your dream that you will spontaneously recover when you have your stroke someday. same goes for your mom or dad if they have one. stroke is one of the hardest things to recover from, especially when it is severe enough to harm the entire left side of your body.

          May 23, 2014 at 1:34 pm |
        • otoh2

          jk,

          Where did I say "spontaneously"? Recovery is due to the severity of the damage, the skills of the doctors and therapists and the patient's hard work.

          Get your "God" busy in the amputation ward, ok; and regrow all of those severed limbs.

          May 23, 2014 at 1:41 pm |
        • otoh2

          p.s.

          My father-in-law died from a stroke... and they and everyone in their church prayed like all get out.

          May 23, 2014 at 1:46 pm |
        • neverbeenhappieratheist

          if what jk is saying was actually true we would have testable evidence of divine interaction with our physical universe. We should be able to chart those who believe in Jesus and call on his name who have medical problems vs those who do not believe in Jesus and compare their recovery times and see a noticable difference for Jesus believers if he was actually helping at all. Well guess what, the statistics show exactly the same recovery times accross all religions and none. So what JK is doing is falsly reinforcing his belief in Jesus based on flawed evidence because he wants it to be true, nothing more. Let him live in his happy delusion. Ignorance is bliss as they say.

          May 23, 2014 at 1:57 pm |
        • jknbt

          hey otoh– do a google search online for miracles of amputee's limbs growing out...it happens. There are some amazing testimonies online. My youth pastor back in college days chopped his finger off with the electric hedge clippers while trimming his hedge. Jesus healed him instantly before his lost cut off finger had even stopped bleeding–it was laying on the ground at his feet.

          too bad about your dad. I lost mine too even though there was much prayer. Time to claim the Romans 8:28 blessing when something like that happens. God will make all these things work for good.

          May 23, 2014 at 1:57 pm |
        • jknbt

          hey atheist– I don't have access to the same statistical data you have apparently. My idea of a sample size is my family or friends when they are in need of Jesus' help. Can't say for all religions all over the world. What database are you referring to? I didn't know they kept world-wide statistics like that. If you can't produce your data, you are the delusional one spreading falsehood. So publish your reference for what journal or encyclopedia your data can be found in. or shut up.

          May 23, 2014 at 2:01 pm |
        • neverbeenhappieratheist

          There is not a single confirmed miracle or supernatural event that can be empirically proven. There are numerous claims but not a single one can be backed up with any actual evidence.

          May 23, 2014 at 2:07 pm |
        • neverbeenhappieratheist

          just look up the studys done on the efficacy of prayer. It's quite clear you are either a deluded moron or possibly a crazy person who is off their meds.

          May 23, 2014 at 2:12 pm |
        • jknbt

          hey atheist... I have researched the matter as far as me, my family, my church, & my friends go. The results are conclusive: Jesus is alive and is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. (Heb 13:8) He still heals & works miracles. you are missing the party...your life is poorer without God.

          May 23, 2014 at 2:20 pm |
        • neverbeenhappieratheist

          Apparently Jesus is blessing me as well then even though I don't believe in him. I'm an atheist and don't pray and don't go to Church, ever. And yet I have a beautiful wife, a wonderful daughter, a good job and enjoy living in a gorgeous small seaside town. So i'm just not sure what the measurement is to calculate how much of my blessing is coming from Jesus or not. How do you tell the difference between just general good fortune and Jesus' influence?

          May 24, 2014 at 1:11 am |
        • jknbt

          hello atheist....good question, this has come up before....see Ecclesiastes 5:19...it basically says all good things come from God....If you had a secret admirer who kept sending you gifts because of hidden love, wouldn't you want to know who that is? It would drive me crazy until I found out who was doing this. I would really really want to meet and know that person. Looks like that's how God is dealing with you. Jesus is gently calling. Can't you hear?

          Beware of the deceitfulness of riches. It is possible to have such a soft sweet life that you can completely miss God. Jesus spoke of this in Matt. 13:22 & Mark 4:19.

          "Taste and see that the Lord is GOOD" Ps. 34:8

          The example of Paul would help here....he was raised in a well to do family, went to the best schools, was a community leader, and had a brilliant future in front of him...he said that all of that was JUNK compared to the gift and calling of Christ...see Philippians 3:8 & context of ch. 3.

          if you don't have a bible handy, go to bible gateway . com...

          Sounds like the Lord has a gentle calling on you...don't miss God because of your comfortable life...

          May 24, 2014 at 3:31 pm |
        • skytag

          None of that proves anything. You prayed. What you prayed for happened and you decided to believe it was God answering your prayers. At other times you'll pray for things that don't happen and in those cases you'll just make excuses to give your God a pass for ignoring you.

          May 25, 2014 at 6:45 pm |
        • skytag

          You have mastered the art of telling yourself God is responsible for natural phenomenon when they go your way. I suspect you're equally adept at rationalizing when they don't. That's how Christianity works. Not once have you given an example in which God had to be the only explanation for what you saw. In every case you simply chose to believe that was the case.

          If God existed he'd have the easiest job in the universe. Anytime something good happens you give him credit and the rest of the time you make excuses to give him a pass. Millions of Jews prayed for God's help as the Nazis were exterminating them by the millions, but it was Russian and American troops, aided by guns, tanks, artillery, and air support that liberated the death camps, not your imaginary friend.

          May 25, 2014 at 10:50 pm |
    • zhilla1980wasp

      jknbt: " Jesus took on your punishment that you deserve."

      ok so by your logic i'm going to lock your children away for a crime you commited years ago; that's fair right?
      i mean you broke the law, thus your children forever will have to suffer because YOU made the mistake.......
      if you accepted that you are either insane or have no children to even worry about.

      May 23, 2014 at 11:32 am |
      • jknbt

        the next time you get a traffic ticket, you will rejoice if someone steps up and pays the ticket for you. All you have to do is accept it. Catch the drift?

        No, don't lock your children up. What a goofy ridiculous comparison.

        May 23, 2014 at 12:49 pm |
        • myweightinwords

          But we're not talking about a traffic ticket. We're talking about a death sentence.

          Allow another person to die because of a mistake I make, or a crime I commit? I find that reprehensible.

          And that doesn't even get into how reprehensible it is to condemn a person to that death for what is, essentially, a thought crime (disbelief) or how evil it is to condemn a person to an eternity of torment for a finite crime.

          May 23, 2014 at 2:00 pm |
        • jknbt

          read my comments about "let's make a deal" for an answer.

          May 23, 2014 at 2:05 pm |
        • zhilla1980wasp

          no i wouldn't allow my offspring to suffer due to my traffic ticket.

          according to your god because your ancestor did something it deemed wrong you and your ilk are going to be punished for all eternity. what kind of freak god do you worship..............nm don't answer i already know how your god came into being.

          you feel guilty and thankful over an imaginary "original sin"; if you wish to believe that you are worthy of death, then fine just keep it out of my schools and away from children.

          children have enough issues without you and your ilk making them feel worse.

          May 23, 2014 at 2:14 pm |
        • jknbt

          hey zilla– original sin is just the preponderance to do wrong. It is a lot like having a left front tire kicked out so it is always pulling you into the oncoming traffic. Original sin is the general cussedness and meanness that is in us all.

          God doesn't send anyone to hell because of original sin. He sends people to hell for the evil they work in what they think do & say. You must be under conviction of sin for you to push back like you are. There is a way out of hell. Repent and accept Jesus on his own terms for who he is. Ask him to be your personal Lord and Savior. This is God's "deal".

          May 23, 2014 at 2:26 pm |
        • myweightinwords

          Your "lets make a deal" response isn't an answer.

          The entire construct of the Christian religion is reprehensible and immoral, all dressed up in the camouflage of piety and righteousness.

          May 23, 2014 at 2:42 pm |
        • jknbt

          well, myweight, this is the deal God has offered. If you don't want Jesus to take your sins on him on the cross, then I guess you will have to bear your own sins.

          Better order your asbestos overshoes in advance. You are going to need them.

          May 23, 2014 at 4:15 pm |
        • observer

          jknbt,

          God has supposedly sent BILLIONS of people to hell for the "sin" of never having heard of him. Loving, caring, and fair to you?

          May 24, 2014 at 2:01 am |
        • jknbt

          my bible says in Romans 1 that they are only accountable according to the light they have received. "Supposedly"....hmm, that doesn't sound very concrete to me. Do some research online on how Jesus is appearing to jews & muslims all over the middle east in the last few years. He is sending his angels to evangelize people who have no access to Christian tv, radio, internet, or missionaries. God has a way of making himself known to people. What church are you going to that teaches the unevangelized will go to hell? I would get out of there and find a bible teaching spirit filled church.

          May 24, 2014 at 3:37 pm |
        • skytag

          Obviously you are well versed on the Christian narrative. Equally obvious is that you have no objective evidence for any of it. All you have is one claim unsupported by any objective evidence after another.

          May 25, 2014 at 10:56 pm |
        • skytag

          "God has a way of making himself known to people."

          Yeah, sure he does. Over the course of human history people have created thousands of religions and viewed collectively they have absolutely nothing in common. They don't even agree on whether there is one God or multiple gods. Even the various sects within Christianity have little in common. Some religions don't even have the concept of a god in the usual sense.

          It seems pretty obvious that if there were a god and he had a way of making himself known to people he would have made himself known to the people creating all those religions at least enough for them to know the basics and hence have those elements in common with one another. But the reality is that if two religions evolve without either influencing each other they tend to have very little or nothing at all in common.

          So like all of your claims here, this one has no connection to reality. It's just something you choose to believe.

          May 25, 2014 at 11:04 pm |
      • awanderingscot

        wasp
        you assume the children are innocent, they're not. all of your life you've been lied to, made to believe man is basically good, that we "have a good heart", we're not and we don't, just look around you at the world. time to wake up now.

        May 24, 2014 at 2:02 am |
        • observer

          awanderingscot,

          Any time there is a tragedy, people flock to help the victims, in some cases risking their own lives.

          Get out of your view that the world you think God created for you is so AWFUL.

          WAKE UP!

          May 24, 2014 at 2:08 am |
        • skytag

          observer: Some people flock to help those in need. Most don't. This has nothing to do with goodness or God, it's an instinct that has evolved because people in groups that work together have a much better chance of survival.

          May 25, 2014 at 10:54 pm |
    • awanderingscot

      well put brother.

      May 24, 2014 at 1:53 am |
  9. thesamyaza

    no its just killing the bullshit. internet is allowing people to see the broader picture its allowing them to see new doors and new ways of think as well as opening old hidden ones. they are throwing away their parents brainwashed teachings, looking to the old ways and em basing the new. its been instrumental for me and mine we have ben using to expand our teaching like never before. i believe the term is "techno pagan" we do not apostatize like Christians we merely put are teaching out their if your interested read them.

    May 21, 2014 at 10:14 pm |
  10. ragansteve1

    As with other aspects of community, one of the issues faced by those using the Internet is the issue of social or community disengagement. Now, before I am blasted, I know that social media is another kind of community. But there is a tendency for avid Internet users to be less connected face-to-face. In many social areas then, it may be that there is some lag time between use of the technology by individuals and an organization's ability to be effective in using it to build community on-line. That may explain some of the disaffection with church. But I think that is not the main concern. I think the main concern is that many churches are not addressing the root causes of a general cultural disaffection. Churches need to shape up and get to the root of the problems our people, young and old, face every day.

    May 21, 2014 at 12:55 am |
    • hotairace

      Young people aren't buying into religious mumbo jumbo so it's not likely they will be looking to a church to assist them with anything.

      May 21, 2014 at 1:00 am |
    • tallulah131

      I don't think that churches can overcome that thing called "education" which allows people to see the holes in what the church tells it's followers to believe. The internet just makes education easier to access.

      May 21, 2014 at 1:18 am |
    • jknbt

      the churches will be full the sunday after the rapture. a lot of teenagers are going to be surprised that they didn't get to go.

      May 21, 2014 at 8:06 am |
      • hotairace

        As a public service to delusional youngsters, most likely under the influence of their even more delusional parents, according to my favorite biblical prophet, the rapture is now scheduled for May 29, 2014.

        See http://prophecycorner.theforeverfamily.com.

        May 21, 2014 at 8:31 am |
        • jknbt

          as a public service to you, I want you to go to bible gateway . com and look up these verses:

          matt. 25:13

          Mark 13:32

          anyone who says they know the day of the rapture is deceived. You are promoting deception. The Agee lady in your website reference will be proven to be the false prophetess she is like all those before her who say they know the day of the rapture.

          May 21, 2014 at 11:45 am |
        • hotairace

          Thanks but I stopped reading the piece of crap often referred to as The Babble decades ago when it became obvious there is no rational foundation or actual evidence for any of the supernatural claims found in it. Re: Ms. Agee, her views have the same credibility as yours.

          May 21, 2014 at 11:51 am |
        • jknbt

          hey hot– your worldview is shockingly limited if you cannot fathom the possibility that the Word of God just might be right and those who believe in it like me just might be right after all.

          May 21, 2014 at 12:53 pm |
        • hotairace

          My worldview includes the possibility of supernatural beings. But! The complete lack of evidence for said gods causes me to estimate the probability to be extremely low, virtually zero. In the absence of evidence, the default, normal position on the existence of something should be skepticism, to withhold belief. It is abnormal to believe something is real when there is no actual evidence to support the belief. In the case of religion, the abnormality extends to mental illness, in my opinion of course.

          May 21, 2014 at 1:55 pm |
        • jknbt

          hot– sounds like you are too hardened to listen to any evidences I might suggest. I accepted my Lord on faith, but since then He has proven himself through hundreds of answered prayers, miracles, and the witness of fulfilled prophecy. But I'm sure none of that would impress you.

          So wait for the Rapture. You seem to know what that is. After the Rapture comes the Tribulation. There will be horrific world-wide judgments centered on Israel. There will be fulfilled prophecies then also. And the Antichrist and his sidekick the False Prophet will do public lying miracles. You will probably be impressed by that.

          Repent if you can during that time. Take care that you don't wait too long to repent.

          May 22, 2014 at 12:40 pm |
        • hotairace

          What would impress me would be one bit of actual real world evidence for any of your delusions.

          May 22, 2014 at 11:41 pm |
        • jknbt

          hey Hot– because you will not repent, but hold on to your sins, you have been blinded. see 2 Cor 4:1-6

          you asked for evidence....(not that I think you will respect it) go do a google search for iris ministries. they are getting miracles, healings, resurrections, and world class good works...and that in the context of a muslim socialist land...

          May 23, 2014 at 8:19 am |
        • zhilla1980wasp

          i would say this would be more impressive jknbt;
          matthew 21:21
          …20Seeing this, the disciples were amazed and asked, "How did the fig tree wither all at once?" 21And Jesus answered and said to them, "Truly I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but even if you say to this mountain, 'Be taken up and cast into the sea,' it will happen. 22"And all things you ask in prayer, believing, you will receive."

          so you tell me when you want to order that mountain into the ocean and i will be there with a camera crew; otherwise you don't have enough faith in your god. lol

          May 23, 2014 at 8:31 am |
        • jknbt

          hey zilla and hot- see new comment above...the goofy website posted my answer in the wrong place

          May 23, 2014 at 10:12 am |
        • hotairace

          There are many claims but none proven.

          May 23, 2014 at 12:28 pm |
    • awanderingscot

      "and this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come" – Matthew 24:14, NKJV – whose kingdom? Christ's kingdom. the Internet is a tool used by the Lord RIGHT NOW so while some may hope to stop the good news of His kingdom from being preached, they won't succeed. Just as the rain falling upon the earth does not fail to produce fruit, so His words will not return to Him empty. amen!

      May 22, 2014 at 11:20 pm |
      • awanderingscot

        "For as the rain comes down, and the snow from heaven, and do not return there, but water the earth, and make it bring forth and bud, that it may give seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
        So shall My word be that goes forth from My mouth; It shall not return to Me void, but it shall accomplish what I please, and it shall prosper in the thing for which I sent it". – Isaiah 55:10-11, NKJV

        Praise God, He is in control, men only think they are in control ... and yes He uses the Internet as He pleases as well, proof of this are His people who joyfully proclaim the good news of His kingdom here too!

        May 24, 2014 at 1:30 am |
  11. jknbt

    what a wonderful mission field! and no burdensome foreign travel for the missionaries! Perhaps countries like Tonga (98% Christian) will be good enough to send some missionaries too..

    if you have looked in on a liberal humanist mainstream church on a sunday morning, you will only see old people. Take a look at living evangelical/charismatic/pentecostal churches out in the suburbs, and you will see lots AND LOTS of young people.

    so don't start ringing the death bell toll just yet, liberals. Living Christianity is surprisingly alive and well in America....Churches that believe the humanist gospel that the bible is only moralistic mythology are going under. THE BELL TOLLS FOR THEE.

    AND GOOD RIDDANCE, BY THE WAY!

    May 19, 2014 at 1:19 pm |
    • Cybershaman

      That's right, buddy. You just keep your eyes closed as you click-clack away at that thing that Science brought you. Here... Have another giant cup of Flavor-Aid with a dash of Hate The Liberals Juice. Every hate group needs a target. Science is not a "liberal conspiracy"...

      May 19, 2014 at 4:01 pm |
      • jknbt

        THE ARTICLE DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SCIENCE. YOUR BIGOTED OPINION IS THAT I MUST BE ANTI-SCIENCE. FAR FROM IT...I AM WRITING A CHEMISTRY TEXT ON ANOTHER TAB RIGHT NOW.

        MORE BIGOTRY...YOU ASSUME I AM A HATER. NOPE, DON'T HATE ANYBODY...JUST GLAD TO SEE HUMANISTIC CHURCHES AND THEIR HERESIES GO OUT OF BUSINESS.

        YOU ARE THE HATER & BIGOT HERE, PAL,

        May 19, 2014 at 4:40 pm |
        • Cybershaman

          Oh... You're writing on a "chemistry text" on another tab... I'm so sorry... Excuse me all over the place. So, you go write your chemistry text and keep on thinking that good ol' down home "real" (for you) religion is on the rise because you see a bunch of young people in your immediate vicinity. That's pretty darn "sciency"...

          May 19, 2014 at 6:47 pm |
        • jknbt

          hey cyber, just because your kids and their friends are going to h .e ll. , don't assume everyone's kids are.

          May 20, 2014 at 7:58 am |
        • awanderingscot

          JKNBT
          brother, you're going hear gnashing of teeth here on this blog. it's because the end is near and it's only going to get louder. try not to buy into the lies and evil deceit; and don't blame them, their evil father also knows his time is near and is directing them to say and do evil. he wants to mute the gospel and discourage you so you won't get thru to our Lord's other sheep. I know this myself in an experiential way. they will say things to try and bait you into saying things you may not want to say and then will accuse you just as their father does before our God. they will quote scripture out of context, lie about our God, and use our zeal for the Lord against us when we reply. But they do the evil at the bidding of their father, the evil one. so be strong brother but pray for His grace to overcome this evil.

          May 22, 2014 at 11:36 pm |
        • hotairace

          Woo, woo, the end is near! You crazy ba.stards have been making that claim for 2,000+ years. Why should anyone believe you now? At least Marylyn Agee, my favorite wacko prophet, provides a few giggles along with the bullsh!t.

          May 22, 2014 at 11:47 pm |
        • jknbt

          thanks, bro. Scot, for the encouragement.

          May 23, 2014 at 8:09 am |
      • awanderingscot

        "I am the bread of life." – John 6:48, NKJV – whoever eats the bread from heaven will never die.

        May 24, 2014 at 1:38 am |
      • awanderingscot

        no Cyber, God gave us the computer and technology, not science. men in their foolish pride only think they do.

        May 24, 2014 at 1:40 am |
        • observer

          awanderingscot,

          God and Jesus NEVER announced any advancements in science. The Bible is full of scientific CONTRADICTIONS.

          It took MAN to make computers.

          May 24, 2014 at 1:48 am |
  12. samsstones

    Philioidiotism
    Using BS biblical verse to try and make a theistic point, circular reasoning at best. You are trying to convince yourself that your book of silly has all the answers for the 7 billion people on earth? Pompous, arrogant, delusional fool that you are.

    May 19, 2014 at 11:02 am |
    • awanderingscot

      thanks stoned, God loves you even tho you are at war with Him. you obviously secretly believe in Him otherwise you wouldn't be here. repent and accept His offer of salvation. he is patiently waiting for you because He does not want to destroy you.

      The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. – 2 Peter 3:9, NKJV

      May 23, 2014 at 9:32 am |
  13. 19covenant19

    There is only "One True Religion" on earth now
    which is absolutely proven to be
    the Ultimate and Perfect TRUTH!
    Here see it now with your own eyes to believe it.

    http://www.holy-19-harvest.com
    The HIDDEN SECRET in BIBLE has been DISCOVERED!

    May 18, 2014 at 6:32 am |
    • hotairace

      Fuck Off!

      May 18, 2014 at 6:54 am |
    • enderspeakerforthedead

      That is a, "No Drunk Scotsman," fallacy. It is meaningless except to the person who utters it.

      June 1, 2014 at 9:11 pm |
  14. demfromsc

    The internet is not killing religion; the effects of religion are killing religion as people (slowly) realize that it is nothing but delusional thinking.

    May 15, 2014 at 11:47 am |
  15. groovinslow

    “conclude, tentatively, that Internet use causes disaffiliation,”

    I think it would make more sense to say that internet use exposes individuals to different ways of thinking and information which, in turn, forces them to evaluate their previously unchallenged religious beliefs. The result of which can lead to disaffiliation.

    May 14, 2014 at 3:51 pm |
  16. cryomark

    OF course the internet is helping kill religion. When you're cloistered in your faith you don't hear the rational arguments against your religion. You aren't exposed to people who claim the mantle of religious goodness while exhibiting hateful behaviors. You aren't exposed to people who are both decent and unconvinced of non-material "souls" that are still somehow subject to eternal combustion. There's a reason most religions seek isolation of one sort or another; either physical or behavioral.

    May 11, 2014 at 2:34 pm |
    • rlfj

      Education and science in particular have historically been prosecuted by religion. Unfettered enlightenment has always been "the enemy" of organized religion as it presents history w/o spin and brings hypocrisy to light. I recall one of my employees asking me what The Inquisitions (mentioned in jest during a previous meeting) were all about about? Obviously his Catholic school upbringing had edited this dark chapter out of their history classes. He was stunned and initially refused to believe what I told him. No internet being available then, I suggested he visit the local public library. He never brought it up again. The internet allows everyone to instantly look most anything up... obviously a massive threat to organized religion.

      May 13, 2014 at 10:46 am |
  17. 19covenant19

    Nothing can kill a True Religion.
    Great MIRACLES have been discovered in the BIBLE.
    Welcome to the Final Age/Millennium.
    Here is what Jesus clearly foretold about.

    http://www.holy-19-harvest.com
    ==BIBLICAL EXCELLENT MIRACLES==

    May 11, 2014 at 6:40 am |
    • Cybershaman

      "Nothing can kill a True Religion."
      Can you give us an example of a "True Religion" that hasn't been killed?

      "Great MIRACLES have been discovered in the BIBLE."
      You don't discover things that are written down.

      "Welcome to the Final Age/Millennium."
      The "Final" one for you, for sure.

      "Here is what Jesus clearly foretold about."
      "holy-19-harvest"
      "==BIBLICAL EXCELLENT MIRACLES=="

      No, it's not 19 for "excellent" miracles. It's http://tinyurl.com/mhgmyos

      May 11, 2014 at 12:33 pm |
    • watussi10101

      Great miracles like exodus 21?

      May 15, 2014 at 3:53 pm |
  18. meatheist

    If you click on the FAITH NOW link above you get "taken" to a page that reads:

    Not Found

    Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here.

    Apparently someone at CNN gets it.....

    May 9, 2014 at 11:34 pm |
  19. Dyslexic doG

    Christianity is dying out, and it's going to happen a lot quicker than anyone expects. A couple more generations and the christian sky fairy will be in a category with Thor and Zeus as a quaint primitive supersti.tion.

    May 8, 2014 at 11:28 pm |
    • meatheist

      I thought he was already.

      May 9, 2014 at 11:26 pm |
  20. Science Works

    test

    May 8, 2014 at 7:01 pm |
    • meatheist

      Are you having problems with Chrome too?

      May 9, 2014 at 11:25 pm |
      • Science Works

        No it was the word filter with reply regarding this post to the t-it got me .

        Hey topher

        Time for a refresher course on the ID believers eh .
        By the way back in 1992 they were the Genesis Insti-tute – and the doc-ument was suppose to be top secret.

        http://ncse.com/blog-tags/intelligent-design-creationism

        May 8, 2014 at 7:09 pm |

        May 11, 2014 at 7:16 pm |
        • meatheist

          Click on CNN's link above, "Faith Now," if you want to see a beautifully ironic piece of programming.

          May 12, 2014 at 4:44 pm |
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