May 28th, 2010
12:10 PM ET
Outrage over plan to build mosque near Ground Zero
HLN's Joy Behar and panel - Atlas Shrugs' Pamela Geller, Huffington Post's Roy Sekoff and American Society for Muslim Advancement's Daisy Khan - recently debated a proposal for a Muslim center to be built near where the World Trade Center once stood. Watch the video below and join the conversation at Joy's blog.
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I'm not a racist person and I have nothing against Muslims, but I think its a heck of a note that near the site of an important, though tragic, part of history destroyed by Muslims, they are building a religious building for Muslims, For all we know, once they built it the terrorists which are Muslim could be using it for a covert training center. Also, I think this is like a slap in the face to the families whose husbands, wives, daughters, sons, etc were killed by the Muslim terrorists.
I'd rather a Taco bell or something more useful
Wake up people!! Do you see the world around you? Here we are back and forth about about a building (material) being built in a place where another came down. I'd also like to add, only by the will of GOD does any of this happen. "from GOD we come and to GOD we will all return. " Not a Leaf falls from a tree that HE is not aware" So let us all stop crying and start praying for our dear lives in this beloved USA...
One does not have to be an atheist to be open minded. In fact, I find that my faith allows me to be more open to other people, and I find that atheists are as closed minded as anyone. As for putting a mosque near ground zero, it seems that there could be another place to put a muslim center. This seems a bit too in-your-face for me. I understand the reason behind putting a mosque there–extending a hand of peace, but we need to be sensitive to everyone's sensibilities here, not just muslim sensibilities.
Why does it have to be near the WTC?
Julian is greatly mistaken. Timothy McVeigh was atheist, as detailed on Maddow's show, and not Christian. Think before you type, Julian.
T.T. Clock no wonder you agree with Jeff, you are Jeff! Somehow you've both spelt 'ridiculous' as 'rediculous'. That must be you Jeff trying to prop yourself up.
America is rolling over like a lap dog. We're becoming so weak. Remember the video clips of muslims in the middle east dancing in the streets when our Twin Towers were falling and our people were dying? To jeff who finds all religious practices ridiculous and believes it is their "right" and muslims should be able to have their way in America: better buy a koran. I'm sure you'll be the first to join ranks rather than lose your head. That is their belief (it's in the koran). If the infidel won't convert, it's OK to kill them. They've taken France, Britain, and they're taking America. I'm sure they appreciate the full support of all you "sheeples." It's what we deserve for throwing the God of Abraham out. Why do you think God/Jesus is such a threat? HE IS GOD! If He weren't real, HE wouldn't be a worry to the antichrist. Jesus is coming soon!
It later came out that the video you're referencing was doctored. It was a video clip taken from a local celebration of a completely different event made to look like a celebration of 9/11 – look it up.
Look, people – I don't like Islamic extremists any more than anyone else, but we have to face facts: 22% of the entire planet is Muslim. If all of them were exactly the same as the violent terrorists you want to conflate them with, the entire world would be on fire.
It would be just as much of a fallacy to equate all Christians with the KKK...the world is not divided simply between "good people" and Muslims.
good bye America: If the infidel won't convert, you live with them in peace because they are people of the book. If the infidel or anyone else for that matter attacks you, you attack them. And Jesus is coming soon to end this mess.
I can understand your concern but America is FAR from rolling over. We've got plenty of fight left!!!
@Julian, thank you!
I am not racist..But do not agree with building a mosque near ground zero.It is like a slap in the face and we dont know where there money is coming from,heck it could even be osama binladins money!!!
Or OBAMA AKA BinLadin
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The most popular name for male Muslim babies born after 9/11 is Osama. I think about that and try to picture a mosque at the site; sorry, it just don't fit.
Osama is a popular name, but that fact is not true. The most popular name tends to be Mohammed or Ahmed or Mahmoud. Where do you get your facts? Your head?
Fayrouz – the stated fact (maybe) was that SINCE 9/11 the most popular name for kids is Osama. Not before or in the history of the religion. You support your claim that 'Duvoille A Dixon' must be making this up in their head is with your statement that it 'TENDS' to be 3 different names. Doesn't sound like you've highly researched this either.
Is it a slap in the face? Yes. But, it's legal. What a world.
Tell me when the last time you saw Christians hijacking airplanes and flying them into building, killing thousands of innocent people. Find them and then you can build your mosque near ground zero. Until then keep the mosques in the middle east where they belong.
Oklahoma City Bombing. He didn't use an airplane, but I hope you can appreciate the point.
I agree with this... and Julian – yes, McVeigh did murder innocent Americans and deserved more than the punishment he got but his wasn't a religious hatred. The 19 murderers on 9/11 were on a mission from their "god".
The attacks on the World Trade Center, the attacks in NYC, DC, PA on 9/11, the attacks on the Indian Parliament, the London Underground attacks, the Mumbai attacks on a primarily Jewish residence (Nariman House) – all these were perpetrated by muslims unprovoked. Rarely do you see anything happening the other way 'round.
Tell me the last time you saw Muslims taking over an aid ship going to Gaza where people don't even have any semblance of life left and are dieing from starvation? Or sending troops to a country and completely destroying it in the mis-guided attempt to free the Iraqi people?
Pointing a finger at other religious groups and their negative actions is not a defense. It doesn't justify what people are doing in the name of your religion. Yes there is the example of the Oklahoma City bombing 15 years ago ... nobody said it was anything other than deplorable. Yes there are passages in the Bible that do get interpreted literally – which is a childish & ridiculous thing to do ... case in point the Phelps group from Kansas. And yes Israel uses a heavy hand in dealing with its problems ... but there are so many more instances of disrespect for other religions(at best) and atrocities(at worst) that happen in the name of islam. You can't just deny that & pretend it doesn't happen and hope it will just go away if you don't acknowledge it. That is unfortunately the status quo. What's good for this country should come first. Religious sentiments/affiliations etc. are secondary. No offense to anyone, but at the end of the day we're all talking about an imaginary friend up in the sky. So for those of us for whom religion(be it islam, christianity, judaism, hinduism etc. etc.) is so important, believe what you like but please keep it private. Take a deep breath everyone and hopefully we focus on solving real problems facing our country. Rule of law(i.e. the man made ones) trumps everything else. For those of you inclined to live under 'gods' laws, you have the rest of eternity in your 'afterlife' to do so. For now, lets get real. Atleast, here in America.
This is twice that Jeff has took the words out of my month. It's a battle over symbolism and it's rediculous. As soon as she finishes going on about how we shouldn't build a mosque, she'd probably go on about how we should build another church. The whole thing is rediculous, I don' t care if they build a Tiki Hut memorial.
How would the muslim community feel about a catholic church or synagogue at the Haj or the dome of the Rock?
Pat, did you just compare the Ground Zero and the World Trade Center to a thousands-of-years-old religious site holy to Jews and Christians (and Muslims)? I'm not so sure that's an accurate comparison.
But your point is well taken. I have noticed that while they want to build mosques all over the place, they're not very welcoming of other faiths themselves.
According to the Koran, the Muslims must protect the Saudi Peninsula from all outside religions, therefore, no church building. However, any other Islamic-run country should allow other churches to be built (i.e. Egypt, Pakistan, Indonesia). So, as previos said, I can see them protecting their sacred site vs. our "painful reminder" site.
"How would the muslim community feel about a catholic church or synagogue at the Haj or the dome of the Rock?"
how can you compare ground zero to mecca or dome of the rock? the latter are places holy to the religion of islam. you are mistakingly grouping the holy places with places that have been unfortunately devastated. since when was ground zero 'holy' to the christians? and the mosque isnt even on ground zero for crying out loud!
and besides, there are churches, and temples alongside mosques in countries such as Pakistan. take it from someone who has actually been there and would know themselves.
Right... a seed of peace? Really? Let's blow up a bunch an Iconic American Landmarks, kill thousands of Americans so we can build a mosque there...
They have as much right to build a mosque "near" ground zero as christian's do to build a church "near" ground zero. I find all religious practices to be rediculous, but it's their right
Jeff. As when you're young you're told to pick a career before it picks you, I suggest instead of thinking religion is a joke (people are usually the week link) maybe you may want to believe in something before Muslims rule the world and you bow to them or get beheaded. Belive in something before something picks you. Believeing in nothing isn't really helping anyone but giving you the feeling of some sort of smug elitism. Who knows what happens when the lights go out and we die but for now I'd rather carry in my heart a place called heaven with past relatives and friends with pure love and peace where we've earned the right to be there with our actions on this earth. I believe it but can't prove it. That's faith.
I agree with Jeff... and no, I'm not Jeff.
@M, that sounds a lot like selling fire insurance. "Believe in something, just in case!" FYI, it's a terrible argument.
The koran teaches that male Muslims should dominate the globe by any means and we want to concentrate these individuals in Manhatten?
The Bible teaches that we must stone to death any person who eats shellfish and we want to concentrate these Christians along America's coastline?
@julian: the bible doesn't say that. the food ban only applied to Jews in the old testament. God gave them specific rules to help them be healthy and promote social order. He later changed some rules but kept the spirit of those rules. God repealed it in the new testament and declared all foods clean. Please read the Bible and understand it in its social context before you state incorrect facts out of ignorance. It's funny how people judge religious books without having read them. (I've read both the Koran and the Holy Bible from a critical perspective.) I actually disagree with God on some points, but who am I (or you) to argue with the Boss?
Dave, why would God change his rules? Isn't he all knowing? How could a being who created the universe have second thoughts about his rules on eating shellfish?