Christians separating from the secular
May 28th, 2010
10:04 AM ET

Unplugged Christians living off the grid

To look upon the beauty of Oregon is to understand what people mean when they say this is God's country, and that's exactly why Brother Gregory lives here.

He is part of a wider movement of conservative Christians who are choosing to live their lives on the edge of society, unplugged from civilization as much as they can, living under basic biblical principles.

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  1. elgee

    It seems apparent that anyone who believes that a first-century Jew walked on water is capable of believing anything that want to believe - anything that makes them feel good about themselves. And people with that capability are dangerous, because they also have the ability to justify the most horrific of crimes by refering to them as "God's will." See Number's 31. Gods were created by men bent on dominating their brothers and on justifying their evil deeds.

    June 5, 2010 at 10:35 pm |
    • freaksmeout

      I would suggest that you read John and then Romans

      June 7, 2010 at 2:40 pm |
    • freaksmeout

      Here you have this man standing up for what he believes in, Pro Life.
      We care more about the killing of wild life, animals in zoos then we do about human life.
      Yes it comes down to that.

      June 7, 2010 at 2:50 pm |
  2. mrrealtime

    completely makes sense. Its far easier to keep a crowd ignorant and easily influenced...incapable of critical thinking if you isolate them from diversity.

    June 5, 2010 at 7:32 pm |
  3. righteous-in-Christ

    Atheists just seem to crawl out from their hell hole to criticize truth!!

    June 5, 2010 at 1:52 pm |
    • verify

      And the "believers" drift in from fairyland to purport their fabrications and delusions.

      June 5, 2010 at 2:17 pm |
    • GodIsForImbeciles

      How's the view from the set of Hee-Haw?

      June 5, 2010 at 6:19 pm |
  4. steve

    It must be amazing as a Native American to read that Oregon is "god's country". The sad, filthy history of the destruction of the original inhabitants of that land mean nothing to self-righteous trash like this ridiculous man who ignorantly hide a legacy of murder, theft & bigotry behind meaningless words in "holy" books. How sad.

    June 5, 2010 at 10:03 am |
  5. KeithTexas

    This is an example of people believing what some hillbilly in Tennessee decided the Bible said. And they developed their belief by reading a masochistic French Philosopher. Most of them couldn't have found Israel on the map and never even heard of the Aramaic language.

    June 4, 2010 at 10:15 pm |
    • Lola

      Too funny. I dounbt they even realize the OT is the Torah either. Must be wonderful to live such a powderpuff existence.

      June 4, 2010 at 10:57 pm |
  6. Gary

    Anna ...its fine you believe in what you believe.....Please do not judge others on books ,religious texts and lectures from preachers that you find true or agree with. .....

    June 4, 2010 at 4:39 pm |
  7. verify

    Good that you realize that these people have been deceived. Next step... seeing that *you* have been deceived also. Best wishes for your journey...

    June 4, 2010 at 2:36 pm |
  8. Kittykat

    To RodBfromNC....Your comment about killing in the OT. Yes there was a lot of killing, but you need to understand the history and fully understand all of the Old Testament. GOD is a "just GOD". Jesus came to do away with the old laws. Jesus said 'Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you," Matthew 5:43-45. These people who separate themselves, have been deceived. The bible also tells us that we are to submit to those in authority (such as our governments) and we are to obey, unless they ask us to do something contrary to the Word of GOD. So we live in the world, but we Christians are not of the World. Heaven is our home. PTL

    June 4, 2010 at 2:26 pm |
  9. stevie68a

    You can be against abortion without being a "christian".
    I agree with Sigmund Freud, who said "Religion is a mental illness".
    Prophet means profit.

    June 4, 2010 at 9:11 am |
    • Anna

      Yep. And Meet is Meat. Please get the info right. Just because it sounds the same, doesn't mean it is.

      That Freud doesn't know what he's babbling about anyway. Who's to say he doesn't have a mental illness? Because he says he doesn't?

      June 4, 2010 at 10:31 am |
    • verify

      Anna: "Prophet means profit." - It's a little play on words... a pun... a joke. If you are that clueless, I doubt that there's much hope for you...

      June 4, 2010 at 12:50 pm |
    • Anna

      I knew it was a pun. My point was that it was a lame one.

      June 4, 2010 at 1:25 pm |
  10. Sparky Off-Da-Grid

    These folks are not off the grid. They have computers, access the internet and write blogs.
    Off the grid means you have none of that, and you don't get your electric and gas and phone and tv and internet access from the utilities. This is one big BS story.

    June 4, 2010 at 8:19 am |
  11. berucem

    Jesus said his kingdom is not of this world and that Satan is the ruler of the world how else could Satan have offered Jesus all the kingdoms of the world if only he would bow down and worship him, so you can choose christ or you can choose the world
    there is no middle ground

    June 4, 2010 at 7:45 am |
  12. ricky

    Hell I don't blame him one bit, just because he wants to be left alone doesn’t mean he is doing anything wrong. If I had the chance to get away from all the crime and corruption this country has become, I would to. He just wants to see the true side of things god has to offer.

    June 4, 2010 at 4:59 am |
  13. pete

    If they want to live in seclusion that their business, but as soon as one of their kids dies because they were denied health care then things suddenly get very complicated.

    June 3, 2010 at 8:50 pm |
    • Zeppelin

      Some of them dying off is certainly good. The world is much better off without impediments imposed by some invisible fairy tale person.

      June 4, 2010 at 10:15 am |
  14. Jeremy Richardson

    It's all very confusing.

    June 3, 2010 at 6:39 pm |
  15. kre8gate

    If we get some of these characters off the grid, maybe we can get ALL of them off the grid. And good riddance!

    June 3, 2010 at 6:33 pm |
    • Zeppelin

      Right there with you. Logic > religion. Fact.

      June 4, 2010 at 10:12 am |
  16. borisjimbo

    Secession on a small scale. The opposite of government isn't freedom, it's anarchy, but these people don't seem to mind.

    June 2, 2010 at 9:05 pm |
  17. McCluck

    wait...you mean i can buy a book that tells me the evidence that PROVES christianity is true?-lol but forgive me for thinking this is just a scam to get christian money. I would love to hear the arguments, maybe a short version from you, since i will not pay for a book that will likely be full of the same non sequiters that i hear from the christian soldiers online. Im sure that the pope is working on how to work this proof into his philosophies that have never had proof before. FAITH wouldnt be needed if there was EVIDENCE. I would still listen if you feel like telling me about it.

    June 2, 2010 at 3:29 pm |
    • Jennifer

      Here are some reasons why I believe the Bible is the Word of God. I hope you truly will consider them, but I honor your right to have different beliefs. (1) It is historically accurate in extraordinary detail. (2) Many writers living at different times, without access to prior works or any communication abilities, wrote the same words and principles "independently". (3) Many of its prophecies (factual and specific, not fortune cookie stuff) are proven to have occurred later. (4) Jesus Christ, whom many religions respect at least as a teacher, attests that the Bible is true. If he is wrong, then he was lying or had a mental disorder; but that is not consistent with the accepted record of perfect behavior, wisdom and caring. (5) Its words have the power to change lives dramatically, positively, and permanently. (6) Faith. I cannot "prove" most things in life, from the facts of what truly happened in current events to the nature of quantum physics. But at one point, you choose to believe because it makes sense.

      June 3, 2010 at 3:07 pm |
    • Anna

      Jennifer: good points. It says that the first thing Satan is going to do is take over the church as his main goal is to get people to turn away from God. Isn't that already happening? With priests molesting children and the like? At this rate, Satan is certianly getting his wish.

      People need to stop taking things so literally. And that's the whole point of faith. You can't phyiscally prove it but you just *know* it (whatever it is) to be true. You have faith in yourself right? You have faith in the doctors to "fix" you/your loved one right? Then how hard is it to have faith in God? Because you can't "see" him? He's right in front of you. As I have said before. You hear but do not listen. You look but do not see.

      June 3, 2010 at 3:40 pm |
    • GaryG

      Well McCluck, an athiest is someone who will not believe because they can neither prove nor disprove that thier is a God. You sound more like a sceptic which is much different than an athiest. A sceptic is someone who refuses to go in a certian direction in search of the truth. Because of your retoric you cannot say that you are an honest intellectual. But, depending on your age you have about 40 more years to figure it out and if you are right that there is no God then you have nothing to worrry about but if you are wrong you may pay a long heavy price with your stance.

      June 4, 2010 at 10:32 pm |
  18. McCluck

    I wish all the crazy christians would do this. Then the world could start using logic and reason to get things done and not magic and fairytales...

    What you think because im an athiest that i dont have morals? I FEEL right and wrong and my motivation for helping people comes from myself and not the fear of punishment.

    I would happily change my mind given a little evidence. If you do have some, however, you may want to help your pope because the whole "forgo logic and have faith" thing is losing its appeal as the general population gets more intelligent.

    June 2, 2010 at 3:01 pm |
    • AWBivins

      Where is your evidence that God does not exist?

      June 3, 2010 at 3:51 pm |
    • Zeppelin

      AWBivins, where is the proof that your god exists?

      June 4, 2010 at 10:11 am |
    • Anna

      Zeppelin: And where's your proof that he doesn't? You can't counter that argument if you can't prove it either way. It shows you weak and ignorant you are.

      June 4, 2010 at 11:56 am |
  19. Bud

    Did the Apostles of Jesus retreat and live "off the grid"? NO, they went out into the world to preach the gospel to the people who did not understand it and try to win over followers by example. This is what Jesus did. That is why the Bible refers to Jesus as "Teacher" more than any other word. These people have it all wrong. Jesus Christ meant for true believers to evangelize to the non-believers and engage them. Preaching the gospel is meant to go outside the walls of a church. Not to retreat from the world.

    June 2, 2010 at 11:54 am |
  20. The Sheeple don't like them

    I love seeing the comments people have made about these "off the grid" Christians having kids that will become psychos. I guess it's time to take their kids for their own good huh?

    Most of the population is conditioned to see those who want to be out of "mainstream" society as kooks, wackos, etc. The gov't loves that too of course because they love seeing a population dependent on them-it makes them feel like they are doing something worthwhile.

    Personally I think the idea of a Christian "God" is ludicrous...but I admire their want to be independent and live in a way more compatible with their world views.

    June 2, 2010 at 10:42 am |
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