August 2nd, 2010
06:27 PM ET

NY panel to vote on landmark status for ground zero mosque site

By Allan Chernoff, CNN Senior Correspondent

New York (CNN) - The building slated to house a proposed Islamic center and mosque near Ground Zero leads Tuesday's agenda for a meeting of New York City's Landmarks Preservation Commission.

The 11 commissioners will vote whether to grant landmark status to 45-47 Park Place. It and an adjoining building are owned by real estate developer Soho Properties which intends to build an Islamic center two blocks north of Ground Zero.

Watch the commission's vote now on CNN.com Live

While the public vote has been the focus of much debate about the planned Islamic center and mosque, the commission cannot prevent the developers from building such a community center. The commission, by designating the building a landmark, can only prevent Soho Properties from demolishing the building or significantly altering its exterior.

"We will continue going forward with the project. It's a project that will build bridges," said Oz Sultan, spokesperson for the Cordoba Initiative, the organization behind the planned center that says it is "committed to promoting positive interaction between the Muslim world and the West."

Cordoba opposes landmark status for the five-story building because it would like to build a taller, modern building. "It's not minarets," said Sultan, who described a mock-up of the proposed center as consistent with the latest architecture found in New York City.

New York City Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg and other city leaders support the Islamic center.

Opponents, including former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, have argued against a mosque being so close to the scene of the nation's worst terrorist attack.

"Peace-seeking Muslims, pls understand, Ground Zero mosque is UNNECESSARY provocation; it stabs hearts. Pls reject it in interest of healing," tweeted Palin last month on her Twitter account.

The Anti-Defamation League, an organization that battles anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry, is asking for the Islamic center and mosque to be built further away from Ground Zero in consideration of families who lost loved ones during the September 11, 2001, attacks. "Building an Islamic Center in the shadow of the World Trade Center will cause some victims more pain - unnecessarily - and that is not right," said the organization in a statement.

The Landmarks Preservation Commission points out its decision has nothing to do with the planned use of the structure.

"The purpose of tomorrow's vote is to decide whether the building has a special character or special historical or aesthetic interest or value as part of the development, heritage or cultural characteristics of New York City, New York State or the nation," commission spokeswoman Elisabeth de Bourbon said Monday.

Most recently a Burlington Coat Factory retailer, 45-47 Park Place was completed in 1858. The Landmarks Commission describes it as "a prominent example of the store and loft structures that dominated the dry goods warehouse districts of Lower Manhattan" during the era.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: 'Ground zero mosque' • Islam • New York • Politics • United States

soundoff (702 Responses)
  1. Genomecop

    You cant pick and choose your civil rights. We all have them, or we all dont. These people have a right to build on that site.

    August 2, 2010 at 7:24 pm |
    • Ryan

      They do indeed; however, no one can argue that it's a considerate thing to do. It's in extremely poor taste.

      August 2, 2010 at 7:25 pm |
    • Bairkus

      Now let us express our opinions.

      I oppose the Cordoba Mosque as it is sited. In fact, in a recent poll of New York City Voters, 58% opposed the Mosque.

      Let us tell the Imam this: write him; call him; email him. Let him know our thoughts. To disagree with the Cordoba Initiative is not, in itself, to oppose any religious freedoms.

      August 2, 2010 at 9:09 pm |
    • 4thofJulybaby

      You will live to regret your words.

      August 2, 2010 at 11:44 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      The majority of Manhattanites support the community center. I guess it's just those pesky people on Staten Island, who should really stop threatening to secede and just do it already, who skew the poll.

      August 3, 2010 at 12:45 am |
  2. Shaq

    Downtown Cairo, Amman, Damascus, Beirut, and other Arab and Muslim cities have many churches to serve the Christian minorities in these countries. We should be open minded and encourage peace.

    August 2, 2010 at 7:21 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      You are absolutely right, but that's not even the issue. What, we only do something if they do it in the Middle East? Because we don't have our own values? That's a red herring and, although you make a valid point re the churches, you shouldn't fall into that trap.

      August 3, 2010 at 12:44 am |
  3. Jubril

    Who is the "They".I am a muslim and i am very much against terrorism, And so are Millions of other Muslims, A lot of people died on September 11 not just Christians, Some Muslims died too and some are currently in Iraq and Afghanistan fighting for this country. SO i ask against who is the "They are laughing "

    August 2, 2010 at 7:21 pm |
  4. Amanda

    Sorry, but more atrocities have been carried out in the name of Christianity than most other religions combined. So, because some freako killed an abortionist in the name of Chrisitanity, should we also declare that all Christians are murderers? Sorry......try again.

    August 2, 2010 at 7:18 pm |
  5. Lat145

    That comment surely reflects your sub-standard intelligence level.

    August 2, 2010 at 7:18 pm |
  6. Amanda

    Wrong.......they'll allow it because to not allow it on the basis of religion is against the laws of our government. For people who are always saying how great American democracy is, you ultra conservative, flag-waving, bigots are pretty quick to toss it aside when it suits your agenda.

    August 2, 2010 at 7:16 pm |
    • BMaryland

      Amanda, on most issues you would find me arguing the position on the left. This one is more complicated to me.

      August 2, 2010 at 9:57 pm |
    • 4thofJulybaby

      They are masters at manipulating laws. It's still wrong of them. Why so insistant on this site? Why not more compassion and really practice what they preach?

      August 2, 2010 at 11:46 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      BMaryland: There is nothing complicated about this. We're talking about a community center modeled after the 92nd Street Y. This is complicated to you?

      August 3, 2010 at 12:41 am |
  7. Megan

    So should churches not be allowed to be built anywhere in Atlanta, near the World Trade Center or near an abortion clinic that has been bombed just because the terrorists involved in those attacks were Christian? And how ironic that the Anti-Defamation League, which "battles forms of bigotry", is discriminating against all Muslims because of the actions of a few.

    August 2, 2010 at 7:15 pm |
    • Jubril

      I ask the so-called "Anti-Defamation League" if there is not a German Embassy in Israel? Why allow a German embassy to be built

      August 2, 2010 at 7:34 pm |
    • JP

      i have yet to see a muslim soup kitchen or a muslim homeless shelter, christianity and judaism have proven to be religions of peace, not just in their texts but through their actions to the community, in judaism doing a good deed for someone else is called a mitzvah, and it is very very integral in the lives of jews; devout jews....one's who actually believe and go to temple, not the ones who hide behind the faith without actually practicing it (wall street brokers and big corporation CEO's)

      someone please show me or tell me a story about the time a muslim helped you in the name of god because i have yet to see it....meanwhile the town next to me has the largest buddha in north america, and the monks are pretty awesome

      August 2, 2010 at 7:45 pm |
    • Rebecca

      JP, you are so wrong. I'm a Muslim, and one of the 5 pillars of Islam is to donate to charity or help the poor! We fast for Ramadan to know what it is like to be poor and hungry, as well as to a devotion to God. Ramadan is a time of giving, of helping out. My masjid (another name for mosque) sets up clothing and food drives all over Atlanta.

      I also donate my time at the local library, since so many cuts have been made for education. You must have a horrible understanding of Islam if you do not know that zakat– the act of charity– is one of the most important things to a Muslim.

      August 2, 2010 at 8:15 pm |
    • Bairkus

      To Jubril:
      And I ask you, Was there not a Catholic Convent built in one of the Nazi death camps? And did the Catholic Church not remove the Convent after it heard protests, and then agreed that it was not appropriate to site the Convent there?

      August 2, 2010 at 9:00 pm |
    • Markymark

      We are only asking that the Mosque be built somewhere else. It is too close. It was Muslims that planned the 9/11 attack and it was Muslims that carried it out. I am not saying all Muslims are terrorists, but I am saying that if you had an ounce of compassion that you would understand the problem.

      August 2, 2010 at 9:04 pm |
    • Cocoloco

      The Muslim religion is about "subjection" (by the way, that's the meaning of their book). Subjection, either by brainwashing, intimidation, terrorism, or just plain ignorance. By the way, a true Christian does not kill (Catholicism is not Christianity), but a true Muslim is allowed to do so by law when holy war, or any other laws applied by their governments. That's why Muslim clerics in Muslim countries are also part of the governments. Their power comes in many forms to make everyone a 'subject' of their pagan god 'allah'.
      Their 'holy book' is full of hatred and ignorance, just as their false prophet's life indicates (muhammad). It is a slap on the face to build a mosque in the U.S. after all, regardless of where it is built. Muslims are about world dominance.
      At the same time, people in the U.S. are at the same level of this ungodly people of the east. So, for whatever is worth, let them do whatever they want: their true nature will eventually come out and more September 11's will be more common not far from now.
      May Jesus save us all, or may He come soon!

      August 3, 2010 at 12:10 am |
    • missadr

      I would oppose building a church at the site of an abortion clinic bombing because the bombers probably used christianity to justify their action. Oklahoma city, however, had nothing to do with christianity.

      August 3, 2010 at 12:12 am |
    • Emma the Grey

      Thank you Rebecca.

      August 3, 2010 at 12:40 am |
    • mitch


      did it ever occur to you that maybe what we're doing over in the middle east might be seen as a terrorist activity to them? just something to think about...

      August 3, 2010 at 7:24 am |
  8. Dustin

    That's like arguing that no Christian church should be build anywhere near downtown Oklahoma City. Why are people unable to separate the extreme actions of a few who follow the world's second largest religion? I'm so disgusted with what this nation is becoming: Mindless sheep who follow whatever mob mentality ideas pop into someone's head. I can't believe I spend my time fighting wars for those who loosely veil their bigotry, and spend their time devoted to hatred. In this vets opinion there's way too many Americans who promote the same evil with their words that the terrorists do.

    August 2, 2010 at 7:11 pm |
  9. Bob

    I say let them build it. Let's not confuse a faith with the actions of crazies who allegedly adhere to that "faith". Would we ban a church near the site of the Oklahoma City massacre?

    August 2, 2010 at 7:10 pm |
    • rs1201

      the right question is would muslims allow a church or a synagogue to be built in Riyadh...how would that sit with the imams there and worldwide. That damn mosque will be a center of terrorism and New Yorkers will suffer for allowing these monsters to do as they please. How many people have to die before the world realizes what monsters these people are.

      August 2, 2010 at 8:38 pm |
    • Raven

      No, rs, that is NOT the right question. America is supposed to be land of the free... not land of the Let's hate everyone who isn't Christian.

      August 2, 2010 at 9:47 pm |
    • 4thofJulybaby

      Bob – read further down. The forum has already agreed that not only is this absurd, but rather an idiotic comparison.

      August 2, 2010 at 11:47 pm |
    • missadr

      That's apples and oranges. Oklahoma city had absolutely nothing to do with Jesus or Christianity. Building a church there would be a great idea. The world trade center attacks were caused by Islam. Building a mosque there is hateful.

      August 3, 2010 at 12:11 am |
    • Emma the Grey

      missadr: 9/11 WAS NOT caused by Islam. That is a completely ridiculous statement. What those men did was as against Islam as murder is against Christianity, and still, people murder doctors in the name of Christianity. Should there not be any churches allowed anywhere near a hospital?

      And it's not a mosque being proposed, it's a community center, which is much needed in that part of the city.

      August 3, 2010 at 12:38 am |
    • DanW

      Once again, McVeigh was an agnostic.

      August 3, 2010 at 3:49 am |
  10. John

    If this was at ground zero I might object but for crying out loud let's get real this is no ground zero but is nearby, well half of NYC is nearby. Person after person lines up to whine that this is to close, okay how far is far enough away? Is 3 blocks still to close, how about 4, 10, 50, how about Buffalo NY, is that still to close?

    August 2, 2010 at 7:08 pm |
    • Ricky

      Buffalo is ok

      August 2, 2010 at 7:19 pm |
    • LeeVT

      How about Mecca

      August 2, 2010 at 7:44 pm |
    • Markymark

      Would Muslims allow a Christian Church or a Jewish Temple to be built in Mecca?

      August 2, 2010 at 9:00 pm |
    • dave

      Are we to understand that you support a Constitutional Amendment establishing a national religion, or at least outlawing the practice of Islam?

      August 2, 2010 at 9:11 pm |
    • Marlene

      MarkyMark: People really need to stop using what other nations allow as a reason to deny the construction of an Islamic center. The nice thing about being in this country is we don't look at every immigrant or American of a heritage other than WASP and wonder how that WASP would be treated in another person's country of origin before making any determinations. We judge these situations by OUR laws, and we don't throw them out the window just because there aren't churches in Mecca. Of all the preposterous suggestions....

      August 2, 2010 at 10:16 pm |
    • Kurt

      no Markymark Iran would not let a christian church be put any where in there country let alone 2 blocks from Mecca. But we should allow this mosque. That is why America is a great free country and Iran is part of the axis evil. I hope there is a lot of things that we can do in the USA that they can not do at Mecca and I pray we never use that as a measuring stick.

      August 2, 2010 at 10:20 pm |
    • er

      Anywhere close enough to offend a 9/11 victims family member is close enough for me.

      August 2, 2010 at 11:00 pm |
    • GlobeTrotter

      LOL @ Kurt saying Mecca is in Iran

      "no Markymark Iran would not let a christian church be put any where in there country let alone 2 blocks from Mecca"

      SWING and miss.

      August 2, 2010 at 11:26 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      Markymark: what on earth does Mecca have to do with NYC? Now we're only doing what they allow there? Really?

      August 3, 2010 at 12:34 am |
    • adsfd

      Actually there are christians in iran although most people are going to the west so building a church might be useless. Tell me how many of you are going there. 1 and 2 then theres no use whole communities then it will come into an idea. still there are churches but there are few and there needs to be more.

      August 3, 2010 at 1:24 am |
    • Cedar Rapids

      'Would Muslims allow a Christian Church or a Jewish Temple to be built in Mecca?'

      Would the pope allow a synagogue or mosque built in the vatican city?

      August 3, 2010 at 9:29 am |
  11. Robin Bray

    The Twin Towers is not a Christian Shrine. People of all faiths and non faiths died there. The cause and reason goes way back and is not an one off story. People need to learn the history behind these events and not the 30 second clips. We have plenty of blood on our hands just as others do. But while at least some people are trying to stop this cycle others as the posters seen here want it to continue.

    August 2, 2010 at 7:07 pm |
    • Bairkus

      There are many who are not bigoted protesters that disagree with the Cordoba plan and oppose it.

      August 2, 2010 at 8:53 pm |
    • Raven

      People forget that it was the WORLD Trade Center that fell. Key word WORLD. People of all faiths were there. Denying a Muslim Center would be like denying a Christian Church.. THAT is wrong. What happened to America being land of the free? What happened to having people of all nations and faiths allowed ot have a life here? This is not an exclusively-Christian Society. People need to wake up.

      August 2, 2010 at 9:46 pm |
    • James

      The attack was done in the name of Islam. They were convinced they were doing their Islamic duty. That's the difference. Also, Islam commonly places mosques at the locations of their "conquests". One of the biggest was the Cordoba house in Spain. What did they want to call this Mosque location? – You guessed it, Cordoba house.

      August 2, 2010 at 11:41 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      James: and people kill doctors in the name of Christianity. Does that make them good Christians? Does that mean all Christians kill doctors? Should we not allow any Christian churches anywhere near a doctor's office or hospital?

      August 3, 2010 at 12:30 am |
    • amplifryer

      History shows that Muslims build mosques in the midst of cultures it has conquered. Such is the case of the Dome of the Rock mosque on the Temple hill in Jerusalem and he first Cordoba mosque which was built after the Muslim conquest of Christian Spain. The Islamic “Conquista” in Spain was followed by killing men, and enslaving women, many of whom were taken to the Arab lands to work as servants and concubines for their Muslim masters.

      Is there any doubt about why they wanted to name the place "Cordoba House" initially?

      August 3, 2010 at 8:27 am |
    • John Sheldon

      Robin...I sometimes read these posts against my better judgment. People seem to use this forum to simply vent their frustration. One of the things people seem to have forgotten about 911 is that it was carried out primarily by Saudis and that it was politically, not religiously motivated. The roots of 911 are not to be found in a religious credo, but in the power structure that exists in the middle east that keeps the oil wealth in the hands of a select few. Osama used some oil money in a challenge to the status quo. It was a horrific attack on the innocent, but also a revolutionary one. I think that what most people who post here don't realize is the extent to which US policy abroad supports dictators and royal families who control this oil money while at the same time smother democracy. The lines are not as clear as people would like to believe. thanks for the post.

      August 3, 2010 at 8:44 am |
  12. Peter

    I totally agree with Bernie. It is totally WRONG to even condier allowing it!

    August 2, 2010 at 7:07 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      Why? There are churches, synagogues, mosques, all in that area. There is even a strip club. So a community center is a problem?

      August 3, 2010 at 12:28 am |
  13. Peter

    Totally agree with Bernie. It is simply WRONG to even consider it!

    August 2, 2010 at 7:06 pm |
  14. wyominguy

    Sarah Palin like it or not reflects a HUGE number of peoples thoughts on this and many other issues.. its why she can collect all the $$$ she has been stashing and why her speeches sell out!

    August 2, 2010 at 7:02 pm |
    • Jeff

      Really? Where were all these HUGE number of peoples on election day in 2008? The people spoke on that day and Sarah should listen to that.

      August 2, 2010 at 8:57 pm |
    • nick2

      Oh I believe you. Its that vision and clarity of speech thh that she has – a direct appeal to ignorance. Come on, you can surely do better than to listen to the meanderings of a middle-aged Tea Bag. Wait for her next book – 'The inexorable Migration of An Alaskan Fish' or 'From Obsurity to Inconsequence'.

      August 2, 2010 at 9:12 pm |
    • wyominguy

      They give her a lot of money because fools and their money are soon parted.

      August 2, 2010 at 9:44 pm |
  15. Robin Bray

    And you are the leader of that group.

    August 2, 2010 at 7:00 pm |
    • Zax

      Hell ya...nothing wrong with a little genocide in the name of progress.

      August 3, 2010 at 4:46 am |
  16. Ryan

    This is terrible, is should be a youth center and have nothing to do do with religion.

    August 2, 2010 at 7:00 pm |
  17. MrMailman

    lol is this how they are taking over Europe?

    August 2, 2010 at 6:56 pm |
    • Mario

      I know. Are you scared? May be you should move up to norh pole or something

      August 2, 2010 at 11:52 pm |
  18. John

    NO WAY!!! Did they build a Shinto Shrine at Pearl Harbor? I am for freedom of religion but remember freedom comes at a cost and the religious group that wants to build at ground zero has cost Americans thousands of lives and billions of dollars.

    NO WAY!!!

    August 2, 2010 at 6:54 pm |
    • Robin Bray

      You don't understand Shinto do you?

      August 2, 2010 at 7:00 pm |
    • Margaret

      It's not at ground zero. It's two blocks away.

      August 2, 2010 at 7:26 pm |
      • Wake-Up

        Can I build a hog farm 2 blocks away from your house?

        August 3, 2010 at 8:20 am |
      • Lucy

        That's ONLY because they're not allowed!

        August 3, 2010 at 8:34 am |
    • FlyBoy

      So if 2-Blocks from Ground Zero is too close, what is a fair distance for our fellow citizens to gather?

      The Media has incorrectly reported the fact that this is NOT a Mosque Per Se, but rather a Muslim Community Center for ALL to enjoy.

      This entire debate is bigoted based, because lets not forget that Ground Zero is NOT a Christian Exclusive Zone, because many of the victims were Jews, Muslims, Hindus, etc.

      I find this entire debate unconscionable in a FREE COUNTRY.

      August 2, 2010 at 7:30 pm |
    • Daniel

      Two blocks away. There are any number of churches and synogogues closer than that, already. What is the big deal?

      August 2, 2010 at 8:15 pm |
    • realworld

      There's a Christian church in Hiroshima. They aren't screaming about a monument to the Roman empire.

      August 2, 2010 at 8:36 pm |
    • nick2

      You should work out your anger in another way. The Christian way is to forgive. As Ghandi once said – an eye for an eye and the whole world will go blind.

      August 2, 2010 at 8:50 pm |
      • Satish

        Forgive the indiscretion of the civilised, and not the uncivilised, certainly not given Islam's track record.

        Islam has just too much blood on its hands from destroying the culture of the Indian sub-continent. That should be a lesson in history.

        Why a mosque? Why not a hospital? Islam perseveres in implating mosques as a means to extend its control, since religion is a rallying cry among muslims.

        August 3, 2010 at 10:03 am |
    • Chaos

      I am for freedom of religion but...NO WAY!!!

      You really have a knack for contradicting yourself.

      August 2, 2010 at 8:51 pm |
    • Greg

      Let me know when you plan on pulling out the crosses at the OKC memorial, because Mcveigh was a christian after all and that isn't appropriate.

      August 2, 2010 at 8:56 pm |
    • upeopleridiots

      I understand the hatred you feel...hell, what am I crazy? You are insane! If I called myself a Christian, then blew up a building, would you really ban all Churches near it? No silly goose! You obviously have insecurity due to possible bad experiences with those different from yourself, however you go out and actually meet a Muslim, you may find your fear misguided.

      August 2, 2010 at 10:24 pm |
    • James

      All these arguments that Christioan churches shold be built anywhere a Christian committed terrorism are not good analogies. VcVeigh, etc did not do their crimes in the name of Islam as the 911 terrorists did. These terrorists felt it was their muslim duty to kill these inoocent people. Aslo, just because Muslims were also killed during 911 does not make a difference because the extremist muslims kill innocent muslims all the time when they committ their terrorist acts and 911 was no different.

      August 2, 2010 at 11:22 pm |
      • Joe

        And don't forget the thousands of muslims who were dancing in the streets celebrating after the twin towers blew up. Kind of funny how the media hid a lot of that from the general public. I live in Oklahoma and don't recall a single christian celebrating after McVeigh blew up the Murrah building. Muslims are in a holy war with anyone who is not a muslim..end of story. This is apples and oranges..can't be compared!

        August 3, 2010 at 7:56 am |
        • educate yourself

          I am shocked that there are so many Americans that need to educated themselves regarding the Islamic religion...I am an American and a Christian. I wonder how many Americans know the facts, Muslim's worship the same God that Jews & Christians do. The Koran speaks of Jesus and recognizes him as a prophet, the same as Jews. Not all Muslim's are extremists, and I do not agree with the way the media is projecting this story. I like FACTS! Its unfortunate that people cannot open their minds and understand that there are religious extremists in all religion, remember waco? Open your mind....

          August 3, 2010 at 8:23 am |
        • benson

          of course not all muslims are extremists. but islam is a political movement as well as a religion, and views mosques as their embassy which must never be dismantled by nonbelievers. the people building this are trying to polarize both the muslim and the western worlds against each other. if built, the mosque serves as a beacon and a symbol of conquering over the symbol that the twin towers once stood for. if it is dismantled, muslims will riot worldwide. before telling people to "open your mind" you should learn for yourself that islam is much more than simply another "religion".

          August 3, 2010 at 8:35 am |
        • Nick San Diego

          One can say the same thing for Israel and Zionism. These are the people pushing the anti Muslim agenda It serves their interests not we in America. It's against our interest to be anti any religion, because our Nation (being different than any other ) is made of ALL different peoples and religions. Sure these men that did in the Twin Towers were evil and just happened to be Muslim, is no reason to condemn the whole Religion anymore than comdeming Irish Catholics for what McVey did in Oklahoma.

          August 3, 2010 at 9:05 am |
        • mrsb

          No, not all Muslims are extremists but the ones who flew the planes into the Twin Towers that day most certainly were and to put up any kind of Muslim symbol that close to Ground Zero is disrectful to those who lost their lives and their families who sent their loved ones off to work only to never see them again.

          August 3, 2010 at 8:50 am |
        • insider

          Isnt it funny how 8 of the supposed muslim terrorists passports found amongst all the burning rubble were still alive?? hmmm fake passports i suppose – where have i heard this story before...

          August 3, 2010 at 9:21 am |
        • Cedar Rapids

          How are they different? Have you read the descriptions of the old testament god? Hes a nasty SOB. Heck, he practically wiped out the whole world at one point!

          August 3, 2010 at 9:38 am |
      • Cedar Rapids

        'extremist muslims kill innocent muslims all the time when they committ their terrorist acts'

        Exactly, so why are you assuming this mosque is for the glorification of the terrorists, and not as a place of worship for the 'innocent muslims'?

        August 3, 2010 at 9:36 am |
    • James

      Correction. Christian terrorists committed their crimes in spite of Christian values whereas the muslim terrorists did them because of their Islamic beliefs. They are convinced they are doing their Islamic jihad duty.

      August 2, 2010 at 11:25 pm |
    • Mario

      @Jmaes . So If I committ a crime in your name, would you be locked up along with me?

      August 2, 2010 at 11:50 pm |
    • read closer

      @ James
      You said, "Aslo, just because Muslims were also killed during 911 does not make a difference because the extremist muslims kill innocent muslims all the time"

      -So, you're saying that "innocent muslims" do exist.
      -So then I'm wondering why, to you, these people who want to build this spiritual center are certainly "extremist muslilms", and are absolutely not "innocent muslims"?

      August 3, 2010 at 12:22 am |
  19. MrMailman

    Like ol lady Jacqueline once told me...heck lets put a mosque on top of every building, let every building be sacred to muslims.

    August 2, 2010 at 6:53 pm |
    • Atheist

      Don't you remember a couple months back when a couple suicide bombers blue up a mosque in Pakistan? Your plan won't work, sorry.

      August 2, 2010 at 8:05 pm |
    • nomoregbldgk


      August 2, 2010 at 8:46 pm |
  20. typo in headline

    Hi there – typo in the headline !!!

    August 2, 2010 at 6:43 pm |
    • nomoregbldgk

      No. This is apageinthelife.blogspot com the secret of min

      August 2, 2010 at 8:48 pm |
    • Steve

      The Commissioner of the NYC Landmark Preservation Commission is Robert Tierney

      Please be nice. We don't want to make the terrorists look good.

      August 3, 2010 at 2:41 am |
    • Mark

      Of course Mr Bloomberg supports the building of a new Islamic center close to Ground Zero. Both he and his Jewish backers who control him know that this will cause even more hatred towards Muslims in the USA and as such it would mean that much more support from Americans for Israel's ongoing battles against other Muslims within the Middle East!

      August 3, 2010 at 5:11 am |
    • goose24

      How can you say that Islam is a peacefull religion,has anyone read the Koran–come on please

      August 3, 2010 at 6:53 am |
    • chillipepper

      This is a slap in the face. The Muslim behind this Mosque has radical ties. Why would the real peaceful Muslims build this? They wouldn't.They would be understanding on the hurt that this Mosque would cause. But the peaceful Muslims aren't in charge. The Radicals and have the money to back their evil. They're energized with their 100 year plan to take over America. These Muslim Countries have been around thousands of years and are very patient.They have a plan to make this world run by Musilm law. You can see what they're are doing around the world wherever they move to. And they have the numbers, billions to get er done. To many simple minded people are to busy watching American Idol to even realize this plan or kind of thinking by the Radical Muslims

      August 3, 2010 at 8:16 am |
    • Rob

      It's really a shame that idiots and religion will eventually cause the end of humanity.

      August 3, 2010 at 8:16 am |
    • Frog Prince

      "Cordoba Initiative, the organization behind the planned center that says it is "committed to promoting positive interaction between the Muslim world and the West"

      Oh? You mean not committed to strapping explosive devices to your children? That's different...........you must not be Muslim then...........

      August 3, 2010 at 8:26 am |
    • Dan

      For all of those making childish fearful ignorant anti-muslim and anti-semetic comments. Come out from under your white sheets, leave your tea party hatred meetings and come live in the spirit of what this country really is! A mix of cultures, religions, atheists, and yes even those with ignorant thoughts like some of the ones being expressed here!

      August 3, 2010 at 8:40 am |
    • lottie

      makes me sick to even think you would put that at ground zero..there are many other places it can be located I dont think that any religious building should be put there......I think it should be left as a tribute to the people and not involve religions of any sort......please reconsider....I am from Canada and have been wanting to go to New York again to see ground zero...if you allow that mosque I will never go again...its just out right stupid......

      August 3, 2010 at 8:43 am |
    • pjinchicago

      Our country was a 'melting pot'. It no longer is. The reason being the cultures who are coming here do not want to assimilate like our parents, grandparents and others did. They want us to assimilate to them – or die. I can't believe the ignorance to the blatant errosion of OUR American culture. Just look up the word "Cordoba" in the context of the Islamic culture and you will hopefully understand their motives.

      August 3, 2010 at 9:15 am |
    • MrHotter

      People fear what they do not understand. I'm not sure why we would even discuss suspending our countries religious freedoms out of hate . The ignorant terrorists have succeeded in turning our ignorant Americans against innocent people. Another victory for the terrorists and a shame on us.

      August 3, 2010 at 9:28 am |
    • Dead Patriot

      I don't think hate is the answer, for one nothing in the muslim faith promotes faith, a radical muslim is no different than a radical christian or just a radical random idiot. if you want a direction to express your anger go to youtube.com and watch "loose change" then you'll have someone to hate!

      August 3, 2010 at 9:31 am |
    • Jim

      The question shouldn't be 'should we allow them to built this mosque' but we should ask 'why do they want to build a mosque is this location if they realize that it is causing so much controversy'? I think the answer is pretty obvious.

      August 3, 2010 at 9:36 am |
    • VelvetElvis

      News bulletin, folks: Not all Muslims are terrorists. Islam is not the religion of terror.

      Remember why early New World settlers left England? A big reason was religious persecution. They came to the New World looking for a new life to worship, free of interference - or even death - for not practicing the established "approved" religion.

      It's true that many of the 9/11 terrorists practiced Islamic faith. But not all of them. Extreme fundamentalists like bin Laden are taking one aspect of the Islam, shaping it and messaging it to those who are susceptible to fear, anger and resentment and looking to target their anger/revenge at a country they deem responsible.

      To say that having an Islamic center near Ground Zero is unacceptable is just ridiculous. If you take that stance, then you have to take the stance of not permitting any Catholic church from being built anywhere near family planning centers (do you condemn ALL Catholics because a few wing-nuts bent and warped its principles to allow them to murder doctors?).

      When did America abandon its values of being a "melting pot" where different cultures and religions could co-exist?

      August 3, 2010 at 9:36 am |
    • Mo

      Hey guys all Muslims countries have western countries Embassies and consulates buildings in their heart of capital cities, even though Wester Christian Crusaders killed millions of Muslims Mens, Women and Chrildren.

      August 3, 2010 at 9:51 am |
    • Kamara

      I'm sure that they will not plan muslim events around 9/11 or demand that those wanting to visit ground zero on 9/11 be forced to do so at certain hours, so as not to interupt their social gatherings...No they have never used this tactic anywhere or at any time before...sure pal.

      August 3, 2010 at 9:55 am |
    • EmInCanada

      A) It is not Ground Zero. It is 2 blocks away from Ground Zero. Just because a piece of a plane landed on the roof, does not make it Ground Zero.
      B) Not all Muslims are Osama bin Laden, just like all Christians are not Warren Jeffs. The bad people in a group should not represent that whole group. How would Christians like to be thought of as child molesting polygamists? Not much, I would guess.
      C) Wasn't your country founded on religious tolerance? Or is it only Christian tolerance? I'm pretty sure it is unconstitutional to refuse to let a religious centre be built, and to ask where their funding comes from. You would never put up with this if it were a Christian fundamentalist church, even though some of them are just as radical.

      Americans espouse the tenants of freedom and democracy until you don't like something, then you forget all about your principles. Aren't you supposed to be the shining example of truth, justice and the American way to the rest of the world? Why don't you act like it!

      August 3, 2010 at 11:07 am |
    • kadir

      please before comment read about the islam! islam says just the god can take the life! you can find this in the quran. no one has right to kill other (besides the protection). those people who kill the innocents are stupid. they just believe in something which is unacceptable by Islam. if you know about hassan sabbah (who pesuaded soldiers and try to reach his goal) can reilaze whats going on! the suicide bombers do not have mind! they are persuaded by someone to do what those want as a do it for religion. leave the stereotypes and respect people in what ever they believe. THIS IS PEACE AND LOVE!

      August 3, 2010 at 3:00 pm |
    • joe

      i think this is extremely disrespectful to the firemen, emts, police and all the people that lost there lives on September 11 2001

      August 7, 2010 at 4:35 pm |
    • Bertie Williams

      Just after 911, I was terribly distraught. I could not sleep or eat. All I did all day was cry. My town of Bayonne offered free psychological counseling so I went to see the doctor. I told him of my problems and after about a half hour he rose from his chair and said, "do you mind if I bring someone in?" I agreed and a man came into the room. He sat down beside me and the doctor asked him to tell about his 911 experience.
      He had been in the north tower when it began to come down. He had called to his friend who was working with him in the parking lot at the WTC. He ran upstairs and as he did the body of a dead person slammed down right in front of him. He saw other people falling out of the building and as the top began to collapse he began to run. Caked with white dust and struggling to surive, he finally reached a point where they were bringing survivors across by boat to NJ. His friend perished that day.
      Of course his experience was far worse than anything I had gone through, only seeing the even on TV. This gracious, quiet man drove me home. On the way he said to me, "I don't understand, why did they do this to me? Why did they do this to my friend? We are Islam. They are my people. Why did they do this to me?"
      The point here is that Islamic people died in that horror just as well as many other worldwide citizens. I think it shameful that America claims this terrible disaster as souly their sadness.
      You don't want a mosque near ground zero, but it is well enough for Islamic people to die there. And, what about the French, German, and all the other internationals that died there? Should they be ignored in America's mad rush to make this an American injury?

      August 16, 2010 at 11:43 am |
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