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August 7th, 2010
03:05 PM ET
Ten killed in Afghanistan worked for Christian groupThe ten medical team members shot dead in Afghanistan Thursday were working for a Christian group, the International Assistance Mission. The Taliban, which claimed responsibility for the attack, accused them of carrying Bibles.
It's only the most recent round of bad news for American missionaries abroad. Last month, missionaries from Pennsylvania were among those injured in a bomb attack in Uganda. |
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@(B)iraq Hussein Osama
Sure there is a lot in the Bible, that is not in the Quran. But is it useful information?? God being in the image of man is anti-intellectual. Given the nature of the universe, to assume that God resembles one of his highly limited physical creations in features goes against common sense. The same applies to Justification by faith, it too goes against common sense. No where in the entire christiandom is any criminal act forgiven simply because you believe someone died for your sins. In "real life" you almost always have to pay a penalty for your "sin".
So let me rephrase what I said earlier. There is nothing "useful" in the Bible, that the Mohammedans cannot find in their Koran.
August 7, 2010 at 11:29 pm
The thief on the cross next to my Lord Jesus Christ did believe it. This man was a convicted criminal, and said, "Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom" And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."(Luke 23:42).
My God died on the cross and was ressurrected from the dead....Was Mohammed ?
My God said to Love your neighbor...did I read that our missioinaries were killed for having a bible with them ??(one that you say has the same things as thier Quran) Seems that was really a threat to go and shoot people over..and you speak of Common Sense??
How Sad!
Check this out..so4j.com Muslim Vs God
It will enlighten you, hopefullly. Tells exactly what the comparison is between Our God and Your Mohammed. Our teachings are not false...and someday when you stand before the Lord Jesus Christ, you will know that what I have said is true. May the Peace and Love of Jesus find you!
Excellent point(s)!
Once the bowers to Mecca see that they have been conned by the "angelic" hallucinations of a long-dead, warmongering, womanizing (11 wives) Arab, these 1.5 billion lost souls will quickly become secularists, agnostics or atheists and a semblance a global peace will spread across the globe
so you are saying, that for 1,500 years Muslims were not aware that Muhammad was a "womanizer" or a "war mongerer" or that they did not have direct access to his Quran?? and that all of a sudden they are going to discover this and become idiots, i mean atheists, excuse me. Good luck with your silly theories. And if you want "global peace", just rid all the atheists of their billions and billions of dollars worth of weapons systems, you will have your "global peace" quick time!!
Please learn about the TALIBAN and how evil these men really are.
You absolutely MUST see this!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9aw6Cnw0hY
The Islamist form of the Khmer Rouge it appears. But of course, it's all the fault of the U.S.
On second thought.....more like a human form of Uruk Hai!
Connecting with GOD has nothing to do with religion, whatever it's name. Look for that connection within, meditate, you will come to know. Violence from whomever comes from fear and lack of understanding. Seek the LIGHT.
These terrorists just get crazier.
I wonder what they'd do if the missionaries had the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster...
peace2all Yes many do without belief in that God, but for what reason if our existence is nothing but a random "roll of the dice"? I am not saying you said that, but if there is no Lawgiver, why the need for a law by which to live. Millions of years from now the universe will collapse on itself and maybe start all over, who knows. I speak as if I did not believe in that Creator. Then everything we have done amounts to nothing. No wonder some philisophers have gone mad!
David Johnson, I am not a member of the religious right. I cringe whenever Pat Robertson speaks not knowing what is going to come out of his mouth next. I don't think the RRR has the wherewithal to take over this country. Of course, they could cause a lot of problems, but I am also against the marriage of church and state. We need leaders with integrity and compassion, no mater what their religious beliefs are.
My point about the differecnce between the Quran and the Bible on the origin of man is this. If you really believe that God created man in His image, not physically, then you would treat all people differently. It is true however, that to some extent all of us create God in our image.
Well said. But please, vote for the Dems in November.
@ Woodrow Bailey
Some.... people don't need to believe or take part in your own fallacious 'If/then' rationale...
("If )*you* really* believe* that God created man in His image, not physically,(then) you would treat all people differently."
Again, some can and do treat people with fairness, love, equaltiy, kindness, etc.... without needing to believe in your God/create man in image, etc... etc....
And yes..as @ David Johnson says.... vote Dems in November...
Peace.....
@John J
You said, "Not to mention, the human being "created in God's image" is not meaning in a literal physical sense. It is to appeal to a moral image, that of kindness and compassion being the image of God, which humans should embody."
You find the desert war god to be kind and compassionate? You mean when he wasn't raging and killing men women and children, right?
God has nothing to do with this war. Or any wars, for that matter. People with some power and/or some money always want more power/money. Religion or God always provides a handy excuse (or "reason") to convince others to go into it with them, do the dirty work for them, give the power/riches back to the instigator. Inevitably, a group of people will be the target of the instigator, and they will fight back.
This is how war/conflict always comes to be. It is never about God. It is always a power/money grab veiled in religious rightousness.
No (B)iraq, I didn't say God in the image of man, I wrote that God created man in His image. How does that go against common sense? Yes, justification by faith is uncommon, but that doesn't invalidate it. No, I still disagree with your statement, but you have the right to make it. If I lived where the Taliban ruled, I wouldn't have that same right.
Not to mention, the human being "created in God's image" is not meaning in a literal physical sense. It is to appeal to a moral image, that of kindness and compassion being the image of God, which humans should embody.
And if the religious right have their way, there will come a day in this country when it will be illegal to speak against evangelical Christianity . Vote for the Dems in November.
Under the Taliban, your wife is also not allowed to prance around buck naked in front of your neighbors! So Freedom to say what you will works both ways. You seem to be focusing only on the negatives. All manner of evil is prohibited from finding public voice under the Taliban as well. Evil ideas and talk which finds open space under your guise of Freedom to speak. And if I may say so, satan is winning the battle! Wherever in the world christians practice freedom to speak, p orn and n udity and all manner of adultery glorification are openly and loudly trumpeted around in public.
It is against the law in the United States to be naked in public, for both men and women. That crime us called indecent exposure.
As far as morality is concerned; it is a free choice, where the character and integrity of a person is displayed by the decisions they make regarding their behavior. The vast majority of Americans exhibit moral decency, as they tend not to receive any media publicity. It is the immoral rejects of society that make the news splash simply because they are the deviation from the norm.
for someone whose sage suggested that even glaring at a woman is akin to committing adultery, you do seem to have a diametrically opposite defintion of nudity!! Imagine if someone showed Jesus a bikini clad woman and pointed out this is not considered "public nudity" in christiandom!!
I feel no pity, they died like thousands of ppl do daily. They knew the risks, they were fully aware of everything going on there, so whats the problem? Where was god when they were killed anyway? Religion = a huge lie.
And you feel no pity for the thousands killed daily either? Has no one ever offered you a kindness throughout the course of your life? If not, then I am sorry for your troubles.
They did know the risk and they did not die in vain. They did just as our Lord commanded, Go to all nations and preach the gospel. As a christian I pray each day for the strength to be able to stand and profess my faith even when faced with the possiblity of physical death because that is the wonderful thing about being a christian, our life just begins with our earthly death. There are worse things than death. There will be a day when we will pray for the end of times because of the horrible shape our world has gotten in from angry, selfish people. Come on, does anyone honestly think that God was not responsible for all life. Religion in man made, faith in the one christ is not. We live in an evil world because God did allow free will and people would rather have immediate gratification for something regardless of who it hurts than rather use self control and work for the most wonderful gratification that will come in the end if you profess your faith. The ones that speak so angrily with their comments are the ones that I feel so sorry for and pray for. It is sad to have to go through life with such a hard heart.
Moral of the Story. Never take a Bible into Muslim War Zones, even with the best of intentions. Your false preachings will not be appreciated there. They have their Koran there, nothing in your Bible that their Koran does not offer as well. If you must read your own Bible everyday, do it in Muslim lands which are not in a War Zone. So atleast the authorities can offer you some protection. But still, never preach from your Bible to a Muslim, war zone or no war zone, you are asking for trouble. And trouble will find you!!
Nothing in the Bible that the Quran does not offer as well? You obviously know less of the Bible than I know of the Quran. There is a great deal in the Bible that is not in the Quran. Justiification by faith for starters. Mohammeds version of the the plagues in Egypt does not include the Passover either. Plus, Islam does not teach that God created man in his image as the Bible does. That is a huge difference!
Sure there is a lot in the Bible, that is not in the Quran. But is it useful information?? God being in the image of man is anti-intellectual. Given the nature of the universe, to assume that God resembles one of his highly limited physical creations in features goes against common sense. The same applies to Justification by faith, it too goes against common sense. No where in the entire christiandom is any criminal act forgiven simply because you believe someone died for your sins. In "real life" you almost always have to pay a penalty for your "sin".
So let me rephrase what I said earlier. There is nothing "useful" in the Bible, that the Mohammedans cannot find in their Koran.
@Woodrow Bailey
You said, "Islam does not teach that God created man in his image as the Bible does. That is a huge difference!"
Then, you are saying the Quran is less of a myth?
The only difference from the Bible and the Koran is EVERYTHING! Those who think they are similar have never read Either! The BIBLE offers Salvation by Faith in the Living Son of God, Jesus, and the KORAN only offers salvation by works... which is exactly what every other religion teaches! There were over 300 prophecies about Jesus in the Torah & Tenach (Old Testement) How many prophecies about Muhammad? 0! The God of the Bible is a Long Suffering, Loving God who delights in making and KEEPING promises... the God of the Koran is capricious... does Whatever he wants! Consider that UNTRUSTWORTHY!
@ Zabihullah Mujahid: Are you as stupid as you sound?
“They were lost. ....they tried to escape and were killed,” said Zabihullah Mujahid, a spokesman for the Taliban.....“They carried Bibles into Dari, maps, GPRS systems. They used to map the positions of the fighters’ Taliban, said the spokesman.
Let's examine this statement.
They had GPS systems and were lost? Not likely. They tried to escape? Possibly, when they knew you were going to shoot defenseless humanitarians. Could they have simply used the GPS systems to find their destination? First you claim they are lost then you claim they have the skill to use their GPS to report Taliban fighter positions. What, in between administering medical aid to the people?
LIES MURDEROUS LIES
Tell Bloomberg and the other imbeciles to start drinking water and lay off the Kool-Aid. Here's an up-to-the-minute story of the peace, love & compassion these people show. Doctors, saving lives, murdered (er welcomed) by those with a different ideology.
The Taliban has claimed that it has killed eight foreigners and their two Afghan interpreters for spreading Christianity.
“These people were preaching Christianity and we punished them,” a Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid was quoted as saying.
Perhaps we should add prayer stones for them in the new mosque that Bloomberg and others think is a great thing to do at the 9/11 site in NY.