August 8th, 2010
10:15 AM ET

Developer behind 'ground zero' Islamic center: 'This is not about the World Trade Center'

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Q: Why not have this center a little further away from the World Trade Center instead of just two blocks right there? There probably wouldn’t be much opposition…

A: This is not about the World Trade Center. This is not about a particular location.

This is about a need that exists within the Lower Manhattan community and its need that exists within the Muslim community to have a community and a cultural center. And it’s pretty hard finding real estate in New York

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: 'Ground zero mosque' • Houses of worship • Interfaith issues • Islam • Mosque • Muslim

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  1. PeggyU

    There is a very dirty undercurrent here, I think. Who is being paid to allow this to happen, and what is the payoff? How many of New York's political elite are involved and is the Obama administration in on it as well? Bloomberg seems just hunky with it going up, and the Obama administration (according to its doughy mouthpiece Gibbs) does not want to meddle in "local" affairs (HELLO???!!!)

    August 8, 2010 at 5:55 pm |
  2. Garlandboy123

    I think lot of people here qutoing Quran 9:5 out off context without reading the verses that came after it....it kinda like what fox news did to shirley sherrod and called her a raicist...I will post the verses here. Please decide yourself about Quran9:5:

    (4) Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (5) And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. (6) How can there be a treaty with Allah and with His messenger for the idolaters save those with whom ye made a treaty at the Inviolable Place of Worship? So long as they are true to you, be true to them. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty

    August 8, 2010 at 5:54 pm |
  3. TexEcon

    The name of the building is to be "Cordoba House," the name of the city where the first mosque was built in Spain when the Moors invaded. If you think that has no significance you are a fool.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:54 pm |
  4. Jo

    Americans are such forgiving people, and they have very short memories. Opposition to that mosque is not racist. There has not yet been a memorial built to the people who died there, and no one seems to care. But there is a huge controversy over a mosque being built there. It doesn't take much common sense to realize that it will come to no good. This is indeed a victory on the part of Islam. A huge victory. They are building their mosque on the site of a building that they helped to demolish on 9/11. The killers are dancing on the graves of the victims.

    In the meantime, no non-Muslim is permitted to enter the city of Mecca.

    Don't think for a moment that the irony of this is not lost on the Muslims.

    Thank goodness I'm not an American.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:53 pm |
  5. Eric S

    Bloomberg and the other supporters of the mosque are fools. They fail to realize that Muslims do not want proper diologue, but to dominate the world. They want to place their banner at the WTC site as a sign of conquest. They do not alllow other forms of worship in the Middle East, but demand a mosque two blocks away from the WTC. Absolutely, dumb!

    August 8, 2010 at 5:53 pm |
  6. Jeremy

    The mosque is entirely unnecessary, superfluous, and a burr under the saddle. It's that continuing march, that slow, inevitable tide of conquest from within when open warfare is impractical. The Imam refuses to condemn radical Islamic terrorism when asked about it in English, but tacitly supports it in statements made in Arabic in Muslim countries.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:52 pm |
  7. Jo

    Americans are such forgiving people, and they have very short memories. Opposition to that mosque is not racist. There has not yet been a memorial built to the people who died there, and no one seems to care. But there is a huge controversy over a mosque being built there. It doesn't take much common sense to realize that it will come to no good. This is indeed a victory on the part of Islam. A huge victory. They are building their mosque on the site of a building that they helped to demolish on 9/11. The killers are dancing on the graves of the victims.

    In the meantime, no non-Muslim is permitted to enter the city of Mecca.

    Don't think for a moment that the irony of this is not lost on the Muslims.

    Thank goodness I'm not an American.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:51 pm |
  8. Brandon

    Why is it that i HAVE to accept your faith, without being allowed to criticize or voice another opinion? This is the same problem in muslim countries. Oppression, control, hatred is being taught. The entire middle east is at war. There is no peace. Certainly the US has done its bloodshed and abused the regional conflicts to their interest.

    I personally as an Atheist see no value in any Religion. The Catholic church abuse cases are just as shameful as the oppression of women in Iran. There has been (still is) so much bloodshed because of faith that the most 'normal' and decent people mostly are Atheists. I have not read the Koran nor do i ever have any interest in it. From what i can tell, nothing in the muslim world is 'moderate'. Everything is extreme. These comments here prove it that the most ignorant people are the ones asking "how dare you to not let us have our mosque". To say that this is not about the WTC is just a lie. Plain and simple.

    If being a muslim means bringing peace then it's surely is a paradox because there is a war in every corner of the world because others do not share your faith. I think when your faith will join the 21st Century maybe then we can talk. Until then I would simple like to vote for a no on that mosque.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:51 pm |
  9. verify

    Show us about 100 years of peace from Islam, with NO atrocities in its name, and we'll talk. You have no street cred. You cannot control your zealots.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:49 pm |
  10. nomoregbldgk

    Talk about taking things out of context: here is the set-up apageinthelife blogspot com 2009 09 world-war-what
    and in case you are the kind that only goes by what they see you may want to consider what the post Prismatic is saying at the same site

    August 8, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
  11. Steve Schoner

    Any developer or construction company that dares build this un-holy mosque near Ground Zero will do so at the expense of never having another job after... U.S. Citizens must stand against this outrage. Just as much as I think we would if Japanese veterans wanted to put up a Shinto Shrine to honor their "contribution" to Dec. 7th 1941 at Pearl Harbor, or the Mexican government proposing a statue of "Victory" at the Alamo at the Alamo as it is today. There is a reason that Islam wants a mosque there on the 9/11 Ground Zero site... And it is not for "understanding" or "community cohesion" but to HONOR THEIR MARTYRS WHO DIED IN 9/11. ! Not just the dirty 19 that did the deed but to HONOR ALL THOSE INNOCENT MOSLEMS THAT BECAME INSTANT MARTYRS BY DE-FAULT IN THEIR DEATHS CAUSED BY DEVOUT FUNDAMENTALIST MOSLEMS DOING THE DEED TO "DEFEND" ISLAM. !

    It is in the Koran... And one can find it if one has the stomach to read this hell inspired book. I choked through it from page one to the end... U.S. Citizens need to read that thing to understand what we we are facing. "Know thy enemy..." You won't know them by their words... For these people are commanded by the Koran to be deceptive... And to understand this one must read their Koran.

    Only then will we as U.S. Citizens come to understand the threat that we face from this barbaric Middle Ages religion.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:46 pm |
  12. sam

    Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called 'religious rights.'

    When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to 'the reasonable' Muslim demands for their 'religious rights,' they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

    As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

    United States - Muslim 1.0%
    Australia - Muslim 1.5%
    Canada - Muslim 1.9%
    China - Muslim 1%-2%
    Italy - Muslim 1.5%
    Norway - Muslim 1.8%

    At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

    Denmark - Muslim 2%
    Germany - Muslim 3.7%
    United Kingdom - Muslim 2.7%
    Spain - Muslim 4%
    Thailand - Muslim 4.6%

    From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.

    They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves - along with threats for failure to comply. ( United States ).

    France - Muslim 8%
    Philippines - Muslim 5%
    Sweden - Muslim 5%
    Switzerland - Muslim 4.3%
    The Netherlands - Muslim 5.5%
    Trinidad &Tobago - Muslim 5.8%

    At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

    When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions ( Paris –car-burnings). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats ( Amsterdam – Mohammed cartoons).

    Guyana - Muslim 10%
    India - Muslim 13.4%
    Israel - Muslim 16%
    Kenya - Muslim 10%
    Russia - Muslim 10-15%

    After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:
    Ethiopia - Muslim 32.8%

    At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

    Bosnia - Muslim 40%
    Chad - Muslim 53.1%
    Lebanon - Muslim 59.7%

    From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

    Albania - Muslim 70%
    Malaysia - Muslim 60.4%
    Qatar - Muslim 77.5%
    Sudan - Muslim 70%

    After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

    Bangladesh - Muslim 83%
    Egypt - Muslim 90%
    Gaza - Muslim 98.7%
    Indonesia - Muslim 86.1%
    Iran - Muslim 98%
    Iraq - Muslim 97%
    Jordan - Muslim 92%
    Morocco - Muslim 98.7%
    Pakistan - Muslim 97%
    Palestine - Muslim 99%
    Syria - Muslim 90%
    Tajikistan - Muslim 90%
    Turkey - Muslim 99.8%
    United Arab Emirates - Muslim 96%

    100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' - the Islamic House of Peace - there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

    Afghanistan - Muslim 100%
    Saudi Arabia - Muslim 100%
    Somalia - Muslim 100%
    Yemen - Muslim 99.9%

    Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:42 pm |
    • john catao

      @Sam this is mind boggling good. thanks for putting this on.

      August 8, 2010 at 6:50 pm |
    • Joe

      @sam good observation good research this is exactly what happen in every country where Muslim went. Here's what happen in Pakistan non Muslim girls are kidnapped and raped then kept captive family are threatened then the rapist gets a certificate of conversion from the local mullah which give the rapist immunity from the Pakistani Islamic law. Thus the girls family left with nothing but hopeless anguish.

      August 8, 2010 at 7:31 pm |
    • verify

      Pretty scary scenario, for sure; but be aware that this is an excerpt from "SLAVERY, TERRORISM & ISLAM – The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat", a book written by Dr. Peter Hammond, an evangelical Christian missionary in South Africa. I do not know the accuracy of the facts or figures, but the source is interesting.

      August 8, 2010 at 11:26 pm |
    • Jeff

      It is fascinating and not just a little eye-opening that as you descend down the list (and percentages of the Muslim population increases), the quality of life for people in those countries and their liberties and freedoms greatly diminishes.

      August 8, 2010 at 11:58 pm |
    • big picture

      You are right, Sam. This is not about religion – it is about control. There was a chicken farmer who kindly raised a litter of abandoned baby foxes. The fox kits thrived, ate all his chickens and the farmer lost his livlihood, his home and his land. I'm afraid we've already let the fox into the hen house. Islam is simply not compatible with democracy.

      August 9, 2010 at 11:17 am |
    • Nonimus

      85% of people know that percentages don't mean anything.

      August 9, 2010 at 12:53 pm |
  13. dj

    If you want to frustrate the ambitions of the terrorists then allow the centre to be built. Their intent is to turn Christians against Muslims, Shiites against Sunnis, Jews against everyone. Moderate Muslims, of which there are many, are a part of the solution to terrorism.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:41 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Well put!

      August 9, 2010 at 3:29 pm |
    • Jeff

      nicely put

      August 9, 2010 at 6:26 pm |
  14. Abul Kasem

    No Mosque At Ground Zero , by building a mosque to celebrate their victory on 9/11 and they're building it as close as they can to Ground Zero and we have useful idiot Mayor Bloomberg who is all for it. This is a victory for Islam . Unfortunately, the useful idiots don't realize that

    August 8, 2010 at 5:39 pm |
  15. Pete J

    How does one take "wife beating" out of context?
    Verse 4:34
    Do you really believe that crap?

    August 8, 2010 at 5:38 pm |
    • Aisha

      Well, again, it is important to read the full context. The Quran is saying that if your wife is doing something she shouldn't be doing – advise them, then if they continue, forsake them in bed, and then if they continue, then beat them lightly. It is clear that the Quran as well as the from practices of Muhammad that beating your wife is greatly frowned upon and prohibited except in cases that warrant it. What cases – infidelity, or acts that could lead to it, as well as other things that would not be pleasing to her husband. A husband does not just go and beat his wife. And lets say I was doing something I shouldn't be doing – like having a man in the house when I shouldn't have – then my husband would advise me several times, if I didn't listen, then he would forsake me in bed, and then if I didn't listen, he would beat me slightly. It wouldn't leave a mark, otherwise he transgressed and he would have to answer for that. It is not the actually beating that affects the women but the notion of her husband going through the action of beating her that would effect her emotionally. Remember, Islamic law prohibits it from leaving a mark. The problem is that we see beating in Afghanistan by some of the uneducated tribal people – but that's not because of Islam but because those people have a culture of it. I would never judge Christianity based on the MANY women in the west that are beat every day by their uneducated and intolerant husbands. And there are many many quotes from the bible that put women as 2nd class citizens and much worse, but I wouldn't bring that up because I understand that that is not what Jesus taught – it's what some random people decided to write.

      August 9, 2010 at 12:21 am |
    • Jeff

      thank you Aisha for your kind reply. In Islam, there are also rules that you have to keep in mind. You can say, "Islam allows a husband to beat his wife," and not give the whole story, and that would be unjust. We need to look at what Islam says about it in its entirity. Like Aisha mentioned, if a wife does something that is bad, then the husband must tell her kindly to stop. This goes on for a long period of time. Several days, if not weeks. Then, the wife continues to be disobedient and committing the same act that she was asked not to do, so the husband moves to staying away from her in bed. This also goes on for a period of time. If this does not work in preventing his wife from doing what it was, then he is allowed to beat her lightly – but it must not leave a mark, must not be on the face, head, breast, abdomen, and anyother sensitive part. It is meant for a last resort. Now you cannot correlate this to the beatings the media show you over and over again on the news in afghanistan. It's rediculous to asume that is because they are muslim. There are plenty of us here in the US that beat their wives and do it because of anger and short fuses. In Islam, you are absolutely not allowed to strike anyone out of anger, your wife or even someone who is attacking you. And for the wife thing, it has to be for an issue that is great enough to warrant it.

      August 9, 2010 at 12:40 am |
    • Nonimus

      I'm confused, so there are cases where it is okay for a man to beat his wife? even if it is lightly?
      Why is that? What right does anyone have to beat anyone else? (other than protection of self or others obviously)

      August 9, 2010 at 12:44 pm |
    • Jeff

      That is certainly a great question – who has the right to do that? The topic requires a lot more discussion because some background is needed. But for short, marriage in Islam is based on love and tranquiity. Muhammad said "The most complete of the believers in his belief is he who perfects his manners, and the best of you in manners are those who act best towards their wives." The elected government has rights over the people and the people have rights over their government. Parents have rights over their children as the children have rights over their parents. Wives have rights over their husbands and husbands have rights over their wives. One of the rights of the husband is that he is responsible for his family. As far as the right to lightly beat his wife, this is absolutely not a norm in the muslim family, and in fact Muhammad even forbade men to beat their wives. It is for times when the wife does something very bad and even then the husband has tried over and over to ask her to stop, and after that for a period of time forsaken her in bed, and then finally, as a last resort, to prevent divorce and to rectify the problem the lightly beat her. Now this is never in front of their children or anyone else, it never leaves a mark, it is not on the face, abdomen, breast, head, etc. Divorce and definately infidelity among other things are worse in the eyes of God. Now there are also things that the wife can do if the husband is the one doing something terribly wrong. You can learn more about the real Islam on http://www.shareislam.com

      August 9, 2010 at 1:51 pm |
    • Nonimus


      Admittedly, I am not very knowledgable on Islam. However, your response sounds a bit evasive to me. You talk about how uncommon it is, how many restrictions there are, such as force of blow and location, and how lengthy the process is before beating occurs but essentially the answer is: Yes, there are cases where a man has the 'right' to beat his wife.

      This is where I have a philosophical issue. Any religion/philosophy that condones physical violence that is not in self-defence or defence of others has some serious problems. One of the biggest is that once you cross the line of granting one person the right to physically harm another then it just becomes a matter of debate about such things as when it is right, to what extent is it permissible, how much damage can be done, how often, what are conditions. It becomes a matter of personal opinion. I for one would hate to be on the receiving end of anyone's opinion of what is an acceptable 'beating'.

      I think that no one should have the right to physically harm another, except for self-defence or defence of others. And honestly the restrictions you describe sound more like methods of torture intended to not leave evidence.

      August 9, 2010 at 2:54 pm |
    • Jeff

      It is a very important point that your brought up about personal opinion and just to summarize – Islam leaves no room for personal opinion in this area, as well as other places.

      I agree with you 100% that no one has the right to harm another except for self-defence or defending those that are being oppressed. If we're talking about Islam, then it should cause absolutely no harm.

      The real question we should be asking and talking to Muslims about is 'what is Islam, what does it stand for, what does it mean and what are the proofs and evidences that God is one and Muhammad is a prophet of God.' I have gone to many mosques and my research has turned to that direction. Because ultimately if that is the case, then He, the Almighty, is the one that makes the rules and knows best.

      August 9, 2010 at 6:28 pm |
    • Jeff

      sorry if my answer sounded a little evasive, but that certainly was not my intent. You raised good questions and I will try to address them.

      Some of the important things that you said was that once you allow something then it opens the door for personal opinions and things to creep in and exaggerate the rule. This is why Islamic doctrine does not leave any room for personal opinion in some matters. The rules are laid out very explicitly. First off, when we think of 'beating your wife' – we get images in our mind of what we think that means because of what we've seen on tv and have experienced in our own communities with domestic violence. In Islam, in the most rare and unfortunate circumstances, when a husband would need to scold (beat) his wife, it should never leave any physical harm to the point where it would even leave the slightest mark. So with the philosophical issue that at no point would a husband be able to harm his wife.

      August 9, 2010 at 6:30 pm |
    • Jeff

      And to remind readers, this is in the most severest cases when after many other steps were taken the wife continues to 'misbehave' – whether it be infidelity or other acts. Islam protects individuals as well as the society at large, and the emotional damage that an 'islamic' beating would leave is aimed to preventing the wife from doing something that would harm herself, her family, and the society at large. But remember this is really in very severe cases, as Muhammad said that the worst of you are those that beat their wives. Also, if we want to look at what would result with such rules being implemented, we can turn back to the time when people 'actually' followed Islam – and women at the times of Muhammad and several centuries after up till our more modern period used to own businesses, speak and have influence in politics, assist their husbands and men in the battlefield, etc etc.

      August 9, 2010 at 6:30 pm |
    • Jeff

      Nonimus, i had a response that was more coherent and well put but my comment is "waiting moderation." – so i tried to copy and paste some of it and part of that is now "waiting moderation" – so sorry if it doesn't get to all the points you addressed. Hopefully cnn will post it soon.

      August 9, 2010 at 6:33 pm |
    • acl812

      You can't quote text from a religious book then use that quote as an indictment on a religion, that is a simple way of thinking and or judging a religion. And who are you to say that a faith that a billon people follow is wrong? How arrogant, how American. And for your information you could take quotes from the bible and do the very same thing. That you think a "gotcha moment" can condemn an entire faith speaks to surface level thinking. Dig deeper, if you seek the truth.
      Here are some bible quotes to prove my point.
      Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to the good and gentle but also to the cruel.”(1 Peter 2:18) “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” (1 Timothy 2:12) or Happy is he who repays you for what you have done to us – he who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” (Psalm 137:9)

      How about these bible passages do they speak to what christianity really is? No it doesn't. I could pick out some more, but my point is this not how you judge a faith. A god fearing muslim, christian, or jew lives their life very much the same way. So what are we really fighting about? that is the true question.

      August 9, 2010 at 7:44 pm |
    • Nonimus

      I had assumed you were knowledgeable on Islam. What qualifies you to speak to what Islam stands for and what the Koran means?

      August 10, 2010 at 9:46 am |
    • Jeff

      I am by no means a scholar on Islam or any religion, or even a learned person in Islam. But I have obtained some basic knowledge through studying philosophy with a concentration in religious studies and with a focus on Islam.

      August 10, 2010 at 12:38 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Okay, thanks.

      August 10, 2010 at 12:56 pm |
    • Jeff

      no problem. Most of the people don't take the time to actually learn about Islam, or learn about anything for that matter. They just take the few quotes out of context that have been spoonfed to them, along with some arab culture and some angry extremists and think that's Islam. And unfortunately, Muslims aren't speaking loud enough either, so all the information is one sided.

      August 10, 2010 at 3:02 pm |
  16. Alan

    'This is not about the World Trade Center'
    Of COURSE this is about the World Trade Center. Are you crazy? The fact that this developer cannot understand or refuses to see the significance of this, tells me that these people are clearly unsympathetic to the national trauma over 9/11. Saying that it promotes tolerance is missing the point. You have to be understanding and kind, first in order to gain the trust of a population, region. Just because you have the money & the laws may support what you want to do, doesn't make it morally justified to do it.
    People do not want an Islamic center near the region where Islamic terrorists attacked us. Fareed Zakaria is a very smart journalist, but my respect for him has diminished greatly over this.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:33 pm |
  17. SayWhaaa!!

    Harem el shariff is a religously holy and sacred ground, Ground zero is nothing but a disaster area. Im not trying to belittle it but people are praising it like that is the site of the second coming. Blowing up Al aqsa then building a mosque is ofcourse extremely inciteful because it is a religous symbol. What does the WTC towers symbollize? maybe freedom or whatever religously it signifies nothing. This isn't a victory mosque its a place for all religions the sooner that gets through your thick heads, the better. Thank You

    August 8, 2010 at 5:28 pm |
  18. FrankLW

    The center's Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, rather than “building bridges”, is a fundamentalist Muslim interested in burning them. After 9/11 he said “United States policies were an accessory to the crime that happened” – providing an indefensible rationale for the terror and abetting yet more terror.

    “They (Americans) started saying what could have we done to make them so angry at us? Is it our foreign policy? Is it us? What did we do? …It’s their duty to do Jihad…conquering the world for Islam.” Nonie Darwish, daughter of a Shahid (Martyr), raised in Gaza.

    I would think Rauf would clearly know this – unless, of course, he himself is being deliberately deceitful, consistent with fundamentalist Islamic strategy (Taqqiya).

    Even more horrifically, Rauf refuses to condemn the mass murdering Hamas terror organization that targets civilians and celebrates their murder – which means he IS condemning their victims.

    “Would some Muslim or some Arab who in his heart believes that the Arab terrorism is terrorism, can he say it publicly? He would be lynched in a Muslim society if he says that Hamas is a terrorist…” Tashbih Sayyed, Editor, Pakistan Today

    Hard to know if Rauf won’t condemn Hamas out of sympathy or fear – but he will not.

    Such a center just has no place in America or anywhere else for that matter – and certainly NOT near Ground Zero of all places.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:26 pm |
  19. Abul Kasem

    In recent times many Islamists extolling how good Islam is for women have written plenty of essays. They will spare no pain to tell women how kind, just, progressive, non-discriminatory and fair Islam is towards women. They have invented these essays after they were shamed by a few essays on the pathetic treatment of women in the Quran and the Hadith. After reading these essays of the Islamists, any woman will wonder where can they find such paradises for themselves. The Islamists will never tell them where these paradises are or if any such paradise exists at all or not. To give credibility to the messages written by these Islamists towards our mothers, sisters, and wives, we need an absolute proof of where can we find such Islamic treatment for our women. So let us have a look at the conditions of women in one of the Islamic paradises,

    August 8, 2010 at 5:25 pm |
  20. txrdgteacher

    This is about disrespect to the many lives lost by radical terrorists. Those wishing to build an islamic center where lives were lost by islamic fundamentalists are either terrorists themselves, liars (since they are allowed to lie to those they consider infidels i.e., AMERICANS) or just plain dumb. As long as we Americans allow this, we are allowing them to continue the terror. I imagine their center will not be immune to the hate they have shown us.

    August 8, 2010 at 5:21 pm |
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