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August 20th, 2010
05:10 PM ET

Religious leaders speak out against International Burn a Quran Day

Religious leaders in Gainesville, Florida, have planned a Gathering for Peace, Understanding and Hope, in response to a local church's International Burn a Quran Day.

"We feel compelled to raise our voices to proclaim that the action the Dove World Outreach Center is proposing is absolutely wrong and counter to the life and teaching of the Jesus whom we love, follow and call savior and Lord," Senior Minister Dan Johnson of Trinity United Methodist Church said, in a note posted on his church's website Wednesday.

As part of the Gainesville Interfaith Forum - made up of Christians, Muslims, Jews and Hindus - Trinity Church will host the event September 10, the notice said, the night before the planned Quran burning.

"Our goal is to foster understanding, mutual respect and peace, while recognizing and appreciating our own particular faith understandings," Johnson said.

The nondenominational Outreach Center said it will host the Quran-burning event on the ninth anniversary of the September 11, 2001 attacks. The group said it will remember 9/11 victims and take a stand against Islam. With promotions on its website and Facebook page, it invites Christians to burn the Muslim holy book at the church from 6 p.m. to 9 p.m.

Wednesday, the city of Gainesville denied a burn permit to the center, said Bob Woods, City of Gainesville spokesman.

"It was a question of public safety," said Woods. "The Gainesville Fire Department has notified the center through a letter," he said.

But that isn't stopping the church. The Gainesville Sun reported that, in an e-mail newsletter sent out Wednesday, the church announced: "City of Gainesville denies burn permit - BUT WE WILL STILL BURN KORANS."

Gene Prince, the interim chief of Gainesville Fire Rescue, told the Sun on Wednesday that under the city's fire prevention ordinance, an open burning of books is not allowed. He said if the church goes ahead with its plan, it will be fined.

And the church's intentions aren't the issue. "It wouldn't matter what the book is they're burning," Deputy Chief Tim Hayes told the Sun.

"We believe that Islam is of the devil, that it's causing billions of people to go to hell, it is a deceptive religion, it is a violent religion and that is proven many, many times," Dove World Outreach Center Pastor Terry Jones told CNN's Rick Sanchez last month.

Jones wrote a book titled "Islam is of the Devil," and the church sells coffee mugs and shirts featuring the phrase.

On the church's website, a section details "Ten Reasons to Burn a Koran."

The Islamic advocacy group Council on American-Islamic Relations called on Muslims and others to host "Share the Quran" dinners to educate the public during the month-long fast of Ramadan beginning in August. In a news release, the group announced a campaign to give out 100,000 copies of the Quran to local, state and national leaders.

"American Muslims and other people of conscience should support positive educational efforts to prevent the spread of Islamophobia," said CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper in the release.

The National Association of Evangelicals, the nation's largest umbrella evangelical group, issued a statement urging the church to cancel the event, warning it could cause worldwide tension between the two religions.

"The NAE calls on its members to cultivate relationships of trust and respect with our neighbors of other faiths. God created human beings in his image, and therefore all should be treated with dignity and respect," it said in the statement.

- CNN Belief Blog

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  1. AthensGuy

    hatred begets hatred. burning the Q'uran will not only inflame the extremist minority among the Muslims, but also give other Muslims, otherwise peaceful people, a reason to enlist with the extremists. The burning will accomplish nothing good; it will only make matters worse.

    August 20, 2010 at 10:19 pm |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      thats what the christian right wants! it NEEDS to burn the Quran and inflame the terr orists. Without the terr orists, the christian right is nothing, an empty self-contradicting wasteland. Christianity needs an enemy and war to feel relevant in the world today, remember the crusades and how they enlivened a dying christianity in the middle ages.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:17 am |
    • jonathan

      burning the Koran keeps the fires burning. we are at war with Islam Terry 's attack is much less harmful and no damage is expected except to a few Korans..The fact that is has stirred such emotions is evident that Terry is successful..and they haven't struck one match..Terry hates Islam much less than I do..My hatred of Islam goes back before 9/11 before any attack on the USA....it goes back to the moment I was filled with the Holy Ghost..I want every Muslim saved..the Koran leads them all to hell..

      August 21, 2010 at 1:29 pm |
    • jonathan

      So (B)iraq you saying the Christian right attacked the twin.. Towers in New York in 9/11 ???

      no doubt you removed all doubt about it...you make idiots look good even smart...

      August 21, 2010 at 1:33 pm |
    • Really?

      So jonathan, you were "filled with a holy ghost" and then you started hating Islam, yet you want every Muslim to be saved, and then 9/11 happened, right?

      I really wonder what you are smoking and where I could get some of that.

      August 21, 2010 at 2:43 pm |
  2. {CA}Gen{Lead}

    Wow...seriously are we no better than our enemies? This is exactly what Al Qaeda and the Taliban wants. For us to burn Korans and make all people who believe in Islam hate us. Fools this is not the Christian way to act! Act like a responsible person and take this stuff seriously. You want all of Islam to hate us fine. Don't be surprised if we get attacked 10 times more cuz of it you idiots!

    August 20, 2010 at 10:18 pm |
    • Baltimore MD

      Fine you want a fight because of burning a book ....... Well then I say we get that joke of a POTUS out of office and get someone in there that values the USA and then if you really want a fight with uncle sam please get the history channel or call japan and ask them how well it worked out..... I dont like the fact that any holy book is being burned but it is a protected right under the feedom of speech of the 1st amendment and jeeze we all got to see how you people responded to a few cartoons .... I mean really its just a bunch of crazys

      August 20, 2010 at 11:57 pm |
    • Amm

      I'm glad that there are more people like you. I am a Muslim and have lived/worked in the US for many years ... Living in Cali, I am witness to the fact that people from many different backgrounds and religions get along just fine. A dear friend of mine has shared many things with me from Christianity and I with him from Islam and I am proud to say we both walked away slightly better human beings. I refuse to believe that the ignorant opinions of a few reflect the mindset of an otherwise sensible American nation.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:17 am |
    • jonathan

      Al Queda want us to bow down to them like you're trying to do here...Terry is fighting back!

      August 21, 2010 at 1:23 pm |
    • Really?

      @jonathan – really? He is "fighting" Al Qaeda? Must be a really tough "fight" burning a few books. I sincerely hope this clown does not burn himself while doing that and would like him to get a medal for his "heroism".

      Honestly, you're doing a disservice to the fighting men and women in uniform currently risking their lives in Afghanistan actually FIGHTING Al Qaeda when you compare them to this nutjob.

      If he wanted to fight Al Qaeda, he could've joined the Armed Forces and went as a chaplain to Afghanistan. Or he could've went there to spread the Word of the Lord, that'd be fighting Al Qaeda too.

      In the meantime he just infuriates regular moderate Muslims that have nothing to do with Al Qaeda and 9/11 and is actually PUSHING THEM towards Al Qaeda.

      Overall he's a false prophet, and the Bible warns us against them – a wolf in sheep's clothing.

      August 21, 2010 at 2:32 pm |
  3. H

    How could you live with yourself? And you call yourself a believer of God. Such a shame people like you are growing to the extent that they title a day as "Burn a Quran Day". Say for instance, the innocent Iraqi lives taken by George Bush as he sent his troops into Iraq. Now I don't know about you, but I have never heard of a Burn a Bible day from where they're coming from. These people you might see as the devil, are more peaceful (emphasis on "more") than you could ever be. So ironic hearing believers of God saying things as such.

    August 20, 2010 at 10:15 pm |
  4. the real people

    judy haught you are as sick and ignorant as the people responsible for 9 /11 i am a muslim and like every other religion islam promotes peace and to respect every other beleif of every indivisuals but what a shame being a christian you and all others who are celebrating this day are so lost i and every other muslim would not wish the same for any other faith you people are sick

    August 20, 2010 at 10:08 pm |
    • eman

      thanksssss 🙂 thats a true person!! who just beleives in god!!!

      August 20, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
    • sick of idiots

      whoever said allah a moon god in the bible. get your head out of your ass. muhammed (sp?) was born 600 years after the death of christ, who as far as we know has never actually been proven to have ever lived.

      all religions suck. they are the works of men to suit agendas and policies for idiots that would follow them blindly. it is hare to argue with any lunatic whose final arguement is "god says........". you vodoo worshipping tools. conned into giving money to pederasts, theives, war mongers and bigots.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:05 pm |
      • roshinobi

        I love when people like you call other people idiots.

        August 20, 2010 at 11:12 pm |
      • Loren

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are funny person, yaah. Glad you know it all, idiot.

        August 20, 2010 at 11:19 pm |
      • PhD

        wow. outstanding. religion will stop us from ever progressing as a species.

        August 21, 2010 at 2:53 am |
        • freewoman

          ever hear of the library at Alexandria? its destruction, set humanity back thousands of years of knowledge.
          The myth makers, could not let science take hold of the human thought processes. the myth had to rule.

          August 21, 2010 at 3:51 am |
        • peace2all

          @freewoman

          I like ya'..... nice to meet you... As a fellow atheist, I certainly appreciate you and your equal opportunity religion bashing....

          Peace to you...

          August 21, 2010 at 4:00 am |
        • Kate

          @freewoman

          You kind of skipped over the first three times it was destroyed – twice by Romans in simple nationalistic wars, and once by Christians (who considered it a pagan temple). The fourth time, reportedly by Muslims, isn't even certain.

          You're right ... myth-makers don't like the human thought process – the myth has to rule. Funny how that trap works innit?

          August 21, 2010 at 4:08 am |
        • freewoman

          as the story goes Hypatia was mutilated because she was a very intelligent woman, single and beautiful to boot. and did not believe in the myths of the time. she was a threat in all aspects of her life to the myth makers. The perfect woman... a real challenge to the men who demanded control.

          August 21, 2010 at 4:25 am |
        • ICEMAN

          hey freewoman did you know that that Libary was like dedicated to an African God i forgot the name but just look it up and it was Sarapis

          August 21, 2010 at 8:41 pm |
      • freewoman

        Mohammad was a complete illiterate. could not read or write a single word.. had to dictate his koran to a WOMAN to write.. so how did he know she wrote what he said? then there are those claims that others tossed in a few verses later on.. and on and so on.. like the bible it is a composite of authors.
        myth madness.. don't you love it... many have died for it... is it worth it... nope...

        August 21, 2010 at 4:09 am |
    • freewoman

      yep there was a lot of peace in those minds of those who flew those planes full of people into those buildings on 911...
      perhaps it a definition thing?
      mass killing is a peaceful expression in the Koran...
      Well it just does not fit in my world of free thinking.

      Wonder if a nuke landed in Mecca on that black rock.. during Ramadan would that be accepted as a peaceful expression... guess not.. I guess it would have to be just who was being blow to bits make it a peaceful mission.

      August 21, 2010 at 3:48 am |
    • Mike

      Islam a religion of peace? Which planet are you living on? The Qur'an, the hadiths, the religious authorities all proclaim the doctrine of war against unbelievers. Just pick up a newspaper any day to see what the "religion of peace" is up to. They commit murder in the name of Islam on a daily basis in over a dozen countries.

      August 21, 2010 at 8:52 am |
      • EK KADIDDLEHOPPER

        Thank you Mike! We ALL need a better education about Islam. This is shocking! Click on the following website:
        http://thereligionofpeace.com/
        Then go down on the left side until you reach "Featured Articles." Then click on and read "Islam's Indian Slave Trade." You may be interested in many of the other articles on the website. The fact is that we are not educated regarding the atrocious and reprehensible evils of the Satanic Islamic political-religious system. We desperately need education in this area of Islamic history. Spend some time getting educated and you will be appalled at what Islamic people plan for the USA, as well as the entire world. We MUST do something to turn the tide. If you will educate yourself, you will be glad you did!
        Our education has never covered this extremely violent and sad part of world history. These Satanists have murdered more people in the history of the world than all wars combined. I can't believe what they did in India!

        August 21, 2010 at 2:41 pm |
        • EK KADIDDLEHOPPER

          Mike, I must again compliment you for your logic and common sense. We all need a real education regarding Islam! This is shocking! Click on the following website:
          http://thereligionofpeace.com/
          Then go down on the left side until you reach "Featured Articles." Then click on and read "Islam's Indian Slave Trade." You may be interested in many of the other articles on the website. The fact is that we are not educated regarding the atrocious and reprehensible evils of the Satanic Islamic political-religious system. We desperately need education in this area of Islamic history. Spend some time getting educated and you will be appalled at what Islamic people plan for the USA, as well as the entire world. We MUST do something to turn the tide. If you will educate yourself, you will be glad you did!
          Our education has never covered this extremely violent and sad part of world history. These Satanists have murdered more people in the history of the world than all wars combined. I can't believe what they did in India!

          August 21, 2010 at 3:07 pm |
  5. bangenge boy

    why dont you do this 'celebration' in the middle east, or just the nearest islamic country – see how that works for you

    August 20, 2010 at 10:04 pm |
    • Muhammad's (P.B.U.H) Lover

      ah boy hw cn they do it>? these are just lazy cats

      August 20, 2010 at 10:15 pm |
    • jonathan

      He's doing it in America where it's legal..where freedom rings...

      August 21, 2010 at 1:21 pm |
  6. Mira

    Why didn't we see the muslims in America come out into the streets and condemn these terrorists? Because they were inside their homes chanting their stupid prayers to Mohammed...you can't fool the real Americans in this country, you might get by with some dummies who have no idea about the sympathy card game. You cannot fool the people of America, we are up to your game! Get the hell out of our country and go to your hell...I see that CNN brings in muslims to expain their holiness and it's all a bunch of garbage. DONT BE FOOLED AMERICANS..these people are crazy and they will take you down if you keep allowing them to change our laws. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

    August 20, 2010 at 10:03 pm |
    • Muhammad's (P.B.U.H) Lover

      if u people are sharp then y didnt u get Osama? a one person who has disturbed u all.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:20 pm |
    • AthensGuy

      I'm assuming that by "real americans" you mean WASPs, right? poor you... people like you give both americans and chriustianity a bad reputation

      August 20, 2010 at 10:22 pm |
    • The Number

      @Mira: I still find it hard to believe there are people as stupid as you in this great country. Satan will have fun with you when your day comes.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:58 pm |
    • Tim

      I cannot believe some of the ridiculous comments on here. I feel very ashamed to be a Christian and an American because some of you so called "patriots" are not only contradicting what this place was founded on, you also contradict you Christianity. I have taken many comparative religion classes in college and I have studied Islam quite extensively. I suggest you all read a book by John Esposito, one of the main scholars from the USA on the Middle East and Islam titled "What Everyone Needs to Know About Islam" Most of you who are posting insulting comments about Islam and Muslims are very uneducated about how they really feel towards America and Americans. The Muslims that do hate the US are a very small portion of the entire Muslim community. Get your facts straight people before posting nonsensical bullcrap.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:46 pm |
  7. MUSLIM AND PROUD

    guys,i'm muslim and proud and i wont and all the muslims in this world will accept the holly QURAN being burned!and my message to all christians and others who want to burn the holly QURAN,will earn glory and pride if you did this horrible thing?!just think and imagine how would you feel if u saw the bible being burned!

    August 20, 2010 at 10:01 pm |
    • freewoman

      you believe in the Quran???- holy c-r-a-p

      August 20, 2010 at 10:38 pm |
    • Baltimore MD

      Really I wouldnt like it but its a law of the land here the 1st amendment covers this ...... So have a bible roast if you want its protected speach and really the bigger this gets the more you fule their efforts

      August 20, 2010 at 11:50 pm |
    • tia

      Let me ask you this - why would burning a Quoran or a Bible or any other book offend anyone? It is just words printed on paper, right? Is your God so small that burning the book makes it all go *poof*? Well now that you know that here in the USA we allow people to express their opinions by doing things like this, you know to stay in a nice Islamic country where you won't have to witness such things as paper burning.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:04 am |
    • delphin

      please don't be offended by the juvenile posters on this forum. shame on all haters and shame of the blindly misinformed by choice.

      August 21, 2010 at 4:33 am |
    • peace2all

      @delphin

      Well said....

      Peace.....

      August 21, 2010 at 4:36 am |
    • alboze

      What happens to the Bibles that are confiscated in Islamic countries?

      August 21, 2010 at 9:28 am |
    • peace2all

      @alboze

      That is not the question here.... The real question is why in (America) are some religious wing-nuts going to burn someone elses holy book...... just because they want to cause more hate and strife.....

      Peace.....

      August 21, 2010 at 11:41 am |
    • Alvin D

      @peace2all

      Why avoid the question? What DO they do with bibles that they have confiscated?? Do you know or not?

      August 21, 2010 at 12:11 pm |
    • jonathan

      you can burn a copy of the bible every day if you like..it would not matter to me..They make em faster than you can burn em. If the Koran is true you shouldn't have a problem with someone burning it..but if it is dependent upon you to make it true , then it is false and you should burn it your self.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:19 pm |
    • peace2all

      @Alvin D

      I am avoiding the question of what do they do with bibles in predominantly muslim countries, because it is irrelevant to the article here.

      I believe what you are inferring in your question, and asking me to answer it is....... "Look at those evil muslim people that burn bibles in their countries" Therefore, how is this any different...? As someone else I was posting with said, well they burn them over their, so..."what is good for the goose is good for the gander.!"

      In other words, they do it, so we should do it.

      And I would argue:

      1)Just because you can do something in America, does not mean it is a 'good' thing to do.

      2)Burning on a national scale the mulim holy book, does nothing to further peace....... just more inflammatory hate-mongering.

      3)Being a citizen of the United States, and as someone who loves this country and the freedoms, and also the ability to make the good, right, better, best decisions around issue of any kind, but especially world peace..... I expect better from my fellow Americans. And that includes all people of faith... including muslim's and christians.

      Peace.....

      August 22, 2010 at 9:59 am |
    • NEON whip

      @ muslim and proud

      i'd be happy to see all the books burned, or at least throw them at people

      August 22, 2010 at 11:31 am |
  8. Colin

    Bible believers burning Qu'rans. It's a bit like thse who believe in the Easter Bunny burning stories about Santa Clause.

    August 20, 2010 at 9:58 pm |
    • freewoman

      yeah but the Easter bunny does not kill Santa Clause for being a non believer.
      Well at least not yet.
      but Santa may eat the wabbit...

      August 20, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
    • Mani

      Tardis ur worried about the spelling bravo I think u missed the point and focused urself on the spelling. I'm actually driving right now so u try doing this and then tell me about it. So do u get my point? Really there's so much crap that people are saying and instead of trying to make this event not happen they are just insulting which is really not cool.

      August 21, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
  9. freewoman

    I don't need an invisible male to order me what to do. I have a wonderful evolved human brain that was not created by some made up supper daddy in the sky.
    Myths will make you crazy killers... just ask the 3,000 who were murdered on 911.
    If those who killed were not promised those 72 virgins.. they would not have been killers for god.
    any fool has his price...

    August 20, 2010 at 9:49 pm |
    • Hashem of peace

      you do not have a religion you don't give a d-a-m-n about what people think you only look at your side of the story as azim said every day more people are killed in palestine as much as the amount of people who died in 9-11 and they are the ones to blame!!
      and what we r doing now isn't solving anything it is that causes conflicts between religions and by all means it s wrong!!

      hasem of peace'
      egyptian muslim
      peace..

      August 20, 2010 at 10:02 pm |
    • Muhammad's (P.B.U.H) Lover

      freewoman i thnk you are forgetting some thing. Listen, you people were nothing in between 17 -18 centuries. now at what stage u r is just because of our Holy Book. You reached to the moon, u have discovered almost every thng with the help of our book. And have u forgotten the rule of Salahud din Ayubi on u? I m agree with azeem.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:13 pm |
    • jan

      dear how regretfull if only your brain was has big has your mouth

      August 21, 2010 at 1:02 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      "I have a wonderful evolved human brain"
      perhaps you should show evidence of its existence in your posts here!

      August 21, 2010 at 1:13 am |
    • nomoregbldguk

      He might be invisible to you, sister, but he pays the rest of us regular visits and makes no pretense as to Who He Is or What He is here for. A page in the life blogspot com The Visit, Proliferation, Area 51, The Secret of Min...

      August 21, 2010 at 1:29 am |
    • The Dude

      Freewoman-
      I have to agree for the most part, but believing in something that may or may not exist isn't necessarily a bad thing. Believing that your ideas are the only path to whatever afterlife is, however, very dangerous. Believing in something greater than yourself can inspire one to greater things if taken in the right perspective.
      Furthermore, I'm against burning the Quran...they should be recycled. Along with any other document that teaches intolerance. If a book is used for division and violence, then it's not worth the paper it's printed on.
      "It's not who I am inside, but what I do that defines me" – Batman (Tired of reading religious quotes, lol)

      August 21, 2010 at 1:33 am |
    • c.g.s

      No worries, freewoman. They are proving your point when they verbally abuse you with their hate because you don't think like they do. They become completely emotional and hysterical, and have no capacity for logical thought.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:17 am |
    • buckwheat

      "don't need males", super daddy in the sky", any fool has HIS price". Someone has issues with men>

      August 21, 2010 at 12:44 pm |
    • jonathan

      Come on hashem of peace...3000 palenstinans a day??? Come on man what exzageration...no wonder you people magnify your problems....they're only burning copies anyway.....:)

      August 21, 2010 at 1:14 pm |
    • Salaam

      Hashem of peace, salaam ahuj!

      While it's true that the situation is bad in Palestine (specifically in Gaza), your facts are plain wrong.

      You write: "as azim said every day more people are killed in palestine as much as the amount of people who died in 9-11 and they are the ones to blame!!"...

      Well, over 3,000 people died in 9/11, this is a fact.
      The TOTAL population Gaza is around 1.5 million according to last census – so this is also a fact.
      Simple mathematics: If 3,000 people died every day in Gaza, it would take exactly 500 days = less than 2 years for Gaza Strip to become completely empty of people.

      So clearly something is wrong with your information sources!

      Now, as for why the people of Gaza are suffering.... Ever since Hamas took over Gaza the quality of life there dramatically decreased, since all they do is provoke the Israelis by shooting rockets at them every day and kidnapping their soldiers instead of doing something for peace. I personally think that Hamas is personally responsible for a lot of the troubles in Gaza Strip – after all, things seem to be going quite OK in the PA West Bank controlled zone.

      Another question I like to ask my Egyptian brothers (with respect! it's really a question that bothers me a lot): WHY Egyptians won't help the suffering Palestinians? You keep the Rafah crossing closed all the time, do not allow Palestinians to cross the border easily, shoot them when they try to cross illegally, do not send them humanitarian aid, etc... Why?

      I like Egypt, is a very good and tolerant country. But I really don't understand why nothing is done to help Palestinians – you do share one of the only two boarders that they have with them...

      Much respect from Canada

      August 21, 2010 at 2:08 pm |
    • Mani

      I really think that everyone in america apart from the few sane people are seriously insane and have problems in the heads. Do you people not watch documetaries? Have u heard of farenheight 9/11? And many other proofs that show that all this was a ploy I guess not. I am disgusted to call myself an American after hearing about this event that is to be taken place and all the comments from these stupid insulate people that claim to be of the nation of free democrates how sad they really havnt seen anything or got any education. And you guys say that we from the west are educated and the east is not I think u should think again go search and see what the muslims really did for civilisation while the west was in darkness the Islamic world was at it's peak we learnt a lot from these so called terrorists. Really I think u should be bothered because if this happens then this will cause a lot of problems. Problems that allready exist we should be looking to resolve things not fueling things. Even if u don't believe in Islam we should still respect it just as we wish to recieve respect for Christianity or Judaism come on people wake up!!!!

      August 21, 2010 at 3:09 pm |
    • Tardis

      Supper daddy? Check your spelling before you post a comment.

      August 21, 2010 at 5:12 pm |
    • p53

      By the way, its super, not supper. Supper is the last meal of the day. Super is to be extraordinary in some way. And, Muslim's were murdered on that day as well. You are truely in need of more grammar education.

      August 23, 2010 at 1:36 pm |
  10. azim

    burning the holy quran will never bring peace, just hate and revenge , it will encourage more terrorism acts and eventually new wars where both sides get huge losses in lives and money , simply a bunch of ignorant people full of racism decided to make a propaganda against islam , islam is a religeon of peace, but it also says we fight back, every action has its reaction you all know that , and for the record the the quran has good words about the christians and your prophet ! and the jews are who hate christian and who harmed them before, christians dont have anything in there bible against islam, but against jews and how they badly treated you in the history and how betrayal they are, so if you are to focus the racism in your hearts and the ignorance then it should be on the jews who are your enemies in your bible .
    for all who will post here please read and focus before your write dont just view opinions based on lies and propaganda

    and every 1 remember:
    jews are behind all this,, they got the biggest cominication netwrok in the world working with them and they have access to make huge propaganda all over the world based on what they want to say, and they are very good in hiding the truth .

    just look at palastine and all kids being killed daily and how jews react wit joy when seeing the f-16 plans hitting some poort kids while sitting at there home [ or should i say streets since they got there homes dstroyed ]

    think before you do anything, focus on the right enemy, burning the holy quran will bring more problems, and most important will prove to the whole world that its true that islam religeon of peace and its you who call for hate and wars !!!!!!!!!!!

    regards,
    egyptian muslim

    August 20, 2010 at 9:44 pm |
    • H

      Azim, it is true that the Jewish have/had immense hate towards us. But they aren't behind everything wrong in this world. It's as if I am believing in the illuminati and stating that whatever odd happens in the media eye, is for them to blame. We don't know what happened behind the scenes so you cannot accuse when you don't know anything about the truth.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:25 pm |
    • WHAT?

      Jews did not fly airplanes into buildings and kill Americans...that is the modern history that I teach my children....Jews are not killing American soldiers on a daily basis, either! I would not turn my back on a muslim.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:32 pm |
      • marie love

        i agree the part u said jew are not bad people but american getting killed ? here is a truth american went to other country to fight did they tell you how many people they killed for past years..i dont think so.

        August 23, 2010 at 1:27 pm |
    • SittinginaMuslimcountry

      I agree with your first point, that burning Qurans will only spread hatred and revenge, and cost lives and money. I also agree with your second point, that these people are racists. Stirring hatred against other groups, whether based on race, religion, creed, skin color, or some other distinguishing factor, rather than actions – is racism.

      Having said that, you lose all credibility when you blame the Jews for this act, and only highlight the hatred prevalent in the Middle East and your own racism. In your claim, you bring in some interesting fallacies. "and the jews are who hate christian and who harmed them before, christians dont have anything in there bible against islam, but against jews and how they badly treated you in the history and how betrayal they are, so if you are to focus the racism in your hearts and the ignorance then it should be on the jews who are your enemies in your bible ." Jews are not the enemies in the Bible. I would have to say that you are doing exactly what you asked your responders not to do – "for all who will post here please read and focus before your write dont just view opinions based on lies and propaganda."

      I won't deny that SOME Israelis sometimes celebrate Palestinian deaths, but in return, the Palestinians not only celebrate Israeli deaths, they glorify their own actions and teach their children through "eductional" videos that the Israelis deserve death and suffering. No person who considers him/herself a human being or a follower of a religion enjoys the thought of innocent children being killed. So ask yourself what it says about the Palestinians who do celebrate this, and also celebrated 9/11.

      Now that I've chased your red herring, let's return to the article and your comments in regards to the reaction Americans will face due to the proposed burning of Qurans. "burning the holy quran will bring more problems, and most important will prove to the whole world that its true that islam religeon of peace and its you who call for hate and wars !!!!!!!!!!!"

      Unfortunately, you are correct. By their actions, these individuals are asking for their hatred to be met with more hatred. However, I would argue that the individuals who propose burning the Qurans are 1) Not Americans, as they don't believe in our Constitution; b) Not Christian, as they definitely are not showing brotherly love or tolerance, but are instigating more hatred; and 3) Sowing the seeds for a religious war the likes of which no country has seen. You cannot attain peace by preaching hatred and intolerance, but then, that is also not this "church's" goal.

      A final thought, from the religion you claim is everyone's enemy. At least the Torah prohibits the burning of books, and rabbis today, remembering Hitler's burning of Torahs during WWII, are even more vocal about not showing disrespect to a religion. In other words, it is agains Jewish law to burn another's thoughts or beliefs. Can you say the same about your religion? I know these "church-goers" can't.

      regards,
      egyptian muslim

      August 21, 2010 at 1:25 am |
    • Islam_religion_of_terror

      Azim /Pig,
      Jews know that the quoran is a bible for terror. You hate Jews because they are better than you. Look at Israel and compare to all Muslim countries.. Islam has destroy Europe. France, German, UK, Spain have lost their culture.In 2020 50% of the population in France will be Muslim..coming soon near you.

      August 21, 2010 at 5:10 am |
      • zeshan farooqi

        Hear oh Isreal your lord our God he is one and love the Lord. It is sad they have to do it but burning a holy book which is a mercy for us and them wont harm us we have them all over the internet and in our home and plenty in copy and predicted in the bible as well. did you all know jesus spoke aramaic and called his father Allah just like we muslims do. Do you know no muslims is a muslim unless he belives in jesus as the messiah that his birth was a miracle and that he is coming back
        [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RbVt8Us8aY&w=640&h=360]
        watch this video itll tell you I LOVE JESUS and the Quran Loves Jesus and His mother theres a chapter dedicated to his mother she is the only women mentioned by name in the Quran...........theres no excuse to be ignorant in this world its what satan wants us to do...............http://www.signsofthelastday.com/1_returntoearth.html
        Allah, there is no god but Him, the Living, the Self-Sustaining. He has sent down the Book to you with truth, confirming what has there before it. And He sent down the Torah and the Gospel, previously, as guidance for mankind, and He has sent down the Furqan (the Criterion of judgement between right and wrong). (Surah Al ‘Imran: 2-4)

        He (‘Isa) is a Sign of the Hour. Have no doubt about it. But follow me. This is a straight path. (Surat az-Zukhruf: 61)

        Remember when Allah said, “‘Isa, son of Maryam, remember My blessing to you and to your mother when I reinforced you with the Purest Spirit so that you could speak to people in the cradle and when you were fully grown (wakahlan) …” (Surat al-Ma’ida: 110)

        He will speak to people in the cradle, and also when fully grown (wakahlan), and will be one of the righteous. (Surah Al 'Imran: 46)

        Isa’ (as) is the Messenger of Allah and His Word. (Surat an-Nisa’: 171)

        Allah gave his name as the Messiah, ‘Isa (as), son of Maryam (as). (Surah Al ‘Imran: 45)

        He was made a sign for all the worlds. (Surat al-Anbiya’: 91)

        ‘Isa (as) was given the Gospel. (Surat al-Hadid: 27)

        Those who divinized him have committed an error and fallen into blasphemy. (Surat al-Ma’ida: 72)

        The disbelievers plotted against him in order to kill him, but Allah nullified their plot. (Surah Al ‘Imran: 54)

        (And We cursed them) for their saying, “We killed the Messiah, ‘Isa son of Maryam, Messenger of Allah." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. (Surat an-Nisa’: 157)

        READ READ READ SURAH MARYAM!!!! you will know that him peace buh and His mother were honarable in this life and the hereafter may the peace and blessings of allah be with you!!!!!!!

        and read this !!!!!

        August 22, 2010 at 8:19 am |
        • NEON whip

          ...you convinced me. tell me something i don't know.

          August 22, 2010 at 9:56 am |
        • peace2all

          @zeshan farooqi

          Your post was so long, that i did not fully get into it. i hope that there is something about civility, understanding and peace between all religions in there somewhere. If so, I am with you....

          Peace.....

          August 22, 2010 at 10:02 am |
        • NEON whip

          is allah a girl? cause i tend to be se-xist.

          August 22, 2010 at 10:33 am |
        • Reality

          Just some of the words of Allah in the real world of terror and horror:

          1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

          1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

          2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

          3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,481 and 924 died in non-combat, 97,172 – 106,047 Iraqi civilians killed as of 8/10/2010

          4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

          5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

          6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

          7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

          8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

          9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

          10) Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops killed in action 1,116 killed in action, 902killed in non-combat situations as of 08/10/2010. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due to the dark-age mentality of the koranic driven Taliban.

          11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

          12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

          13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

          14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations

          August 22, 2010 at 4:13 pm |
        • Fad

          @Reality, what proof do you have that say its muslim or people involved with oil or politics and who just want to fight interest of some regime? Like i said in my last post, those people need it mass behind them and they are calling for jihad but nothing in what they are doing is from what the religion has taught us.

          August 22, 2010 at 7:45 pm |
        • Reality

          Just some of the passages in the teaching manual called thekoran that give credence to Islamic terror:

          Allah is an enemy to unbelievers. – Sura 2:98

          On unbelievers is the curse of Allah. – Sura 2:161

          Slay them wherever ye find them and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. – 2:191

          Fight against them until idolatry is no more and Allah's religion reigns supreme. (different translation: ) Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is God's entirely. – Sura 2:193 and 8:39

          August 23, 2010 at 12:29 am |
        • edwardel7asan

          That's lovely you can find quotes. Now tell me the context in which these quotes were.

          Still struggling? I'll be kind and inform you that the context of these verses are to do within context of war and treason. Death penalty is still applicable to treason even today in countries where death penalty is abolished.

          How do verses 2:98 and 2:161 invoke terror? In your ignorance you simply neglect the fact that Allah may be angry with them but that is NOT a command to terror.

          August 23, 2010 at 11:50 am |
    • 4thofJulybaby

      I might agree with you if I actually believed that Islam is a real religion. Frankly if Mohammed were alive today, he would be no different than David Koresh – a cult leader with many wives who molested his children. Where was Janet Reno when you needed her!

      "Beware of false prophets." – Matthew 7:15

      August 21, 2010 at 8:10 am |
    • Hashem of peace

      AGAIN!!
      FOR THE THIRD TIME!!
      whoever crshed in those towers is not a muslim we don't consider him to be a muslim and he will never be a muslim
      AND
      if u really wana teach your kids real history not crappy history you should tell them how jews used to burn the hell out of christains and u should tell them of the great richard.... WHO FAILED to to a d-a-m-n in muslim territory because of salah el deen!!
      Maybe u should tell them how a christain betrayed jesus and told the romans that he was a threat to them!!

      August 21, 2010 at 9:13 am |
  11. nonimouse

    You are as sick as they come. Too bad you don't seem to know anything about Jesus and the true Christian religion. You sound like you belong to that KKK brand of Christianity.

    August 20, 2010 at 9:33 pm |
  12. nonimouse

    International Burn a Quran Day? That is one of the sickest things I've heard yet. They can pat themselves on the back for being just like the KKK. Sick sick, disgusting people.

    August 20, 2010 at 9:31 pm |
    • pontius

      go and read what koran says and what its goals are. my dear friend islam is a threat to humanity as much as nazism was.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:51 pm |
    • DearyPie

      pontius and ed I do hope that you two aren't Americans. It would hurt too much to think that we have people of your type in our country. If you two are Americans, what a sad commentary that is for our country. Our education system as yet again managed to let another couple of people slip through the cracks.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:07 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      only the dumbest person on earth would use Koran as a toilet paper. Even if there is a 0.01% possibility that God will judge us on the Day of Judgement, such a person will likely have his very same ar se skewered over a nice hot fire for his silly behavior. And for what?? nothing! when regular toilet paper is soo cheap and plentiful.

      That is what we call an idiot of the highest order!

      August 21, 2010 at 1:11 am |
    • M.Delroba

      more like SS Nazi !

      August 21, 2010 at 3:06 am |
    • Chad

      @Pontius
      You must not have read the Bible either. If you weren't so brain washed you would realize that the Bible calls for the same actions as the Koran. ie; Old Testament. But then again, you would come back with some BS about how that part of the Bible shouldn't be taken literally. Both call for killing non-believers of their religion. In fact, the Old Testament has more violent verses than the Koran. Also, some Christian's celebrated when Dr. Tilly was murdered. That doesn't sound like a peaceful religion to me! In reality, ALL religion is violent – especially Christianity and Islam. Not everyone is an extremist, and there are plenty of peaceful Muslims and Christians.

      August 21, 2010 at 3:13 am |
    • BurnBabyBurn

      I plan to burn one.. After reading a few of these replies with people preaching peace and love, it only shows me that they have never been to war. Perhaps if they had gone to Afghanistan and seen their battle buddy flown out in multiple body bags and had these wonderful people shoot at them they would be singing a different tune. Im off to go get a free Quran and wipe my ass with a page every day.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:10 am |
    • Chad

      Reality – I guess that goes for the BIble to...can you say Crusades??

      August 21, 2010 at 10:08 am |
    • jonathan

      They're only burning copies; What's the big deal? This is America!!!!!! 🙂

      August 21, 2010 at 1:11 pm |
    • Reality

      Considering the horror and terror caused by the koran, using it as useless paper is only fitting.

      August 22, 2010 at 12:49 am |
  13. Hashem of peace

    Look everyone...
    I am a muslim and proud of it and every single muslim is!
    But this isn't how problems are solved this is how they start!!
    In both our religions god orders us to spread peace not war or hatred
    I sincerely wish this event doesn't occur ..
    And a little bit of information to all the ignorant people out there(whatever your religion is):
    People like ossama ben laden who cause wars and kill with no reasons and claim that they are right and are protecting islam and that this is right are wrong!!
    They are seen as terrorists in islam and very religion and are not welcome in anyway possible and may they burn in hell!!
    And there is a very famous proverb in the middle east especially in egypt it saya:
    "al erhab la deen laho" wich means:
    terrorism is not welcome in any religion it even asks us to fight them not help them!
    hope this was understood in the right way.....
    (P.S)(How would u like it if someone made an event to burn bibles??!! Islam forbids that by the way..)

    August 20, 2010 at 9:06 pm |
    • CatholicMom

      Burning someone's religious book is a despicable act. If they go ahead with this burning, they are not Christians. There are so many sects that confuse the world with their actions and the things they profess….calling themselves Christians when they are not.

      August 20, 2010 at 9:38 pm |
    • JustaPeasant

      Bin Laden is obviously liked.Someones hiding him for quite a long time.He has MANY followers....people haven't turned him in yet so someones helping him.....just saying

      August 20, 2010 at 11:25 pm |
    • Rick49

      In the Christian Church is someone would blow up another person claiming it was for religious purposes every pulpit- liberal and conservative would denounce the act on Sunday morning. How come the Imans never vociforously denonced 9/11. In fact some people of your faith were celebrating.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:32 pm |
    • pontius

      islam is not a religion but a political system to take over the world and impose its laws. we should stop considering islam a religion. there is nothing like moderates in islam, anybody who says himself a moderate is either not aware of what islam says or lying.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:50 pm |
    • Denise

      Unfortunately, no matter what the true basis of the Muslim faith is, extremists have seen to it that Americans, most of whom are already predisposition toward bigotry, will denounce an entire people for the acts of a few. Ignorance is rampant, and hatred is all some people have to fill their empty lives. This particular "Christian" group is going to burn Qurans because Islam is a violent religion sending billions of people to hell. Have they READ the Bible??? The Old Testament is account after account of "God's Chosen People" destroying and violently wiping out populations, and in some cases, God himself annihilating cities. Lest we forget the Inquisition, the Salem Witch trials, and the wars waged in the name of "God", but no one wants to talk about that, do they? People are ignorant, and that is all there is to it.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:52 pm |
    • AKS

      Actually Rick49 almost every Muslim cleric in this country and even around the world have vociferously denounced the attacks. Unfortunately, there's not much coverage of this so you don't hear it. In fact, a coalition of top imams in this country have produced a video against terrorism to all Muslims which is quite unequivocal. As far as some people celebrating, most news outlets that showed that quickly admitted that the clips were from other events. For example, one clip that had gotten a lot of press was a group in Palestine celebrating shortly after the attacks in broad daylight, even though that would be clearly impossible given the time difference. As a Muslim myself, I have yet to meet another Muslim that's remotely even tried to justify the attacks whether local or abroad.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:00 am |
    • Nobody Special

      Sure, people are helping Osama bin Laden avoid capture. And people also were helping Eric Robert Rudolph by giving him food and supplies.

      There are nutcases in every religion, just as there are people who follow them. If you don't believe me, then do some research on the World Church of the Creator, the Christian Identity movement, and, oh yes, Fred Phelps. And if you think that conversions to Christianity have all been peaceful, then read your Latin American history to find out how the missionaries did things down there. And then there were the Spanish Inquisition, Britain's transition from Catholicism to the Church of England, and the fate of the Huguenots. Oh, and I'm sure all the people burned in Salem were actually witches.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:08 am |
    • jan

      islam means peace and delivers this message in the holy quran' study it and u will see 4 your self.as for mr jones'it is said in the quran and the bible-there r angels and devils -good and bad amongest us all(the later of the 2 applies to a person such has mr jones)The burning of the quran will only open the doors of hell among the west and east,against muslims and none muslims.My message 2 mr jones through your religion unite people of all faith as the bible teaches u if u want 2 be remembered has a good person' NOT THE DEVIL U BURNT THE QURAN' but a great human being.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:56 am |
    • Kusta

      Islam doesn't mean 'peace' it means 'submission'. Salaam means 'peace'

      August 21, 2010 at 2:10 am |
    • delphin

      islam does mean peace and so does salam. moreover, islam means peace, submission to the truth, and reconciliation. it is a more comprehensive word. learn your arabic before you preach wrong information. not cool.

      August 21, 2010 at 4:30 am |
    • Jerry

      Do it...then, they've done that b4 ISLAM was born and Christianity still lives...i'ts just a a book..It becomes powerful and can change life when it's only put in a heart of a human being and live with it. Again it's just a book...

      August 21, 2010 at 4:45 am |
    • 4thofJulybaby

      I might agree with you if I actually believed that Islam is a real religion. Frankly if Mohammed were alive today, he would be no different than David Koresh – a cult leader with many wives who molested his children. Where was Janet Reno when you needed her!

      "Beware of false prophets." – Matthew 7:15

      August 21, 2010 at 7:58 am |
    • cndhawg

      @Hashem of Peace....as you are Muslim, can you tell me in layman's terms why it is okay to build a mosque at Ground Zero, which was attacked in the name of Islam, but it is not okay for Isreal to rebuild the Hebrew Temple at the Western Wailing Wall? Peace is a two way street and I do not believe the Islamic religion is interested in peace or they would be looking to compromise rather than insisting on everything being to their liking.

      I know you will see this as racist, but it is simply the image Islam is portraying to me as a proud Christian American.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:33 am |
    • Fladabosco

      To Rick: You are wrong. If the new mosque is built in NY and some wacko bombs it and kills a bunch of Muslims you can be sure there would be Christian clergy urging their flock to celebrate. It's the not the religion that's dangerous – it's the wackos, the revolutionaries, the extremists.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:59 am |
    • iac249

      @cndhawg Because there is currently an active and historical mosque occupying that area the Dome of the Rock. Besides, the proposed community center (for it is just that; there is planned a swimming pool etc), is located some blocks away. It would be unlikely the Israelis would be satisfied with building the new Temple a few blocks down. And besides, NYC is not a holy city for three faiths whose interests seemingly compete with each other over certain spots. I doubt any Muslim would object to a church or synagogue being build right next to the proposed community center. Rather, we have some individuals expressing interest in building gay bars and pork BBQ shacks.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:23 pm |
    • AgnosticAmerican

      To cndhawg: I’m not saying it’s right that Israel isn’t allowed to rebuild the Hebrew Temple and the Wailing Wall, but the reason it should be perfectly acceptable for a mosque to be built at Ground Zero is because of our first amendment. We pride ourselves (or at least I thought we did) on the freedom of religion. This is not the same in the Middle East. We as a world leader should hold ourselves to a higher standard. It is the same amendment that gives the Dove World Outreach Center a right to burn the Quran (and I don’t agree with their actions); the freedom of speech and the freedom of protest. The beauty of our country is that everybody has the right to express themselves and express their beliefs freely. Not everyone has to agree with everyone else, but we need to understand and accept the basic rights upon which this country is based. Instead of accepting this, we are turning into a country of bigots.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:38 pm |
    • Atul C.

      Although I am a devote Christian, I categorically condemn this act of burning of Quran.

      Having said that "Mr. Hashem of peace", just one change from Muslim side will make lot of difference to people who view Islam as a violent religion. Their clerics and religious leader behavior needs to change. They must condemn any act of violence by Islamic terrorists. You would rarely hear any of their religious leaders condemning acts of violence. On the other hand, you will see majority of Christians will condemn this act of burning Quran. I know there are extremists in every religion but those minority groups shouldn't be allowed to dictate terms and we should say as it is.

      Peace begins at home so Islamic countries should demonstrate restrain while protesting for every sneeze that west takes.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:54 pm |
    • StarMan

      Jihad is also in the quran and it means holy war. Infidel is in the quran and it means non beleivers. The quran also calls for the death of infidels. Religion of peace? Hardly!

      This is how problems start? What about killing 3000 of my fellow citizens? You sir are devoid of any real logic and knowledge of facts.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:01 pm |
    • jonathan

      burning a bible has absolutely no effect on me..The Romans burned many a Christian for almost 300 years..then stopped..:)

      then what did they do??? 🙂

      If the Koran is true then nothing like burning it is going to do anything to it...It's been around awhile so why worry about it???

      August 21, 2010 at 1:10 pm |
    • John in the US

      To all muslims posting comments such as “How would you feel if we did this to your bible.” For the record – YOUR PEOPLE have and far worse for many many years. Burning bibles is trivial. How about “Muslim Youths Destroy 10 Nigerian Churches” (September 2008), “muslim archeologist's destroy ancient Jewish stones by recutting for modern use, grinding into gravel or just dumping them in the Kidron Valley in order to perpetuate the myth to the Muslim world that Jews did not live in the land from 1400 BC to 70 AD.” (August 2005), More Koran Hypocrisy: Keep Koran Holy But Dip Crucifix In Urine, And Other Senate And Media Hypocrisies” (May 27, 2005). This is non-inclusive of the stonings of Christians (something that NEVER ONCE happens in the civilized western world) Beheadings for thought and speech or the universal praise to the Kamikaze stile attacks on out world trade centers.

      We will respect your right to believe whatever you wish to believe, we will never respect the message or hold any of your artifacts as holy or sacred. Our corrupt politicians may pander to your emotional plight but the masses underneath have stopped giving a rats ass about you your faith our your desolate forsaken useless parts of this planet and we do not welcome you into ours.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:37 pm |
    • JohnForStandUpAmericanAgainst_Islam

      How can a rational person be proud being that the Devil Islam Book identified as Koran instruction is reality to kill, kill, death?

      August 21, 2010 at 1:48 pm |
    • iac249

      @StarMan First of all, jihad is a general Arabic term for "struggle". The Arabic word for war is "harb". You will never find the literal phrase "holy war" in the Qur'an; indeed, there is nothing "holy" about war. Moreover, as a Muslim I've never used the word "infidel" nor have I ever heard any Muslim using the word. Rather, the only ones I hear using that word are Islam-bashers.

      August 21, 2010 at 2:18 pm |
    • shawn

      I'm in Afghanistan. I see the word "infidel" all the time, scrawled on the sides of churches. This word seems to accompany death threats most of the time. It's just painted on there, could easily be painted over by any of the locals. Is it? Nope.

      August 21, 2010 at 3:19 pm |
    • AgnosticAmerican

      The terrorist on 9/11 wanted to instill fear and affect the way we live. By burning the Quran, all you are doing is proving their point and allowing it to affect you. If you really want validate what they did...go burn a Quran.

      August 21, 2010 at 6:30 pm |
  14. Muhammad's (P.B.U.H) lover

    hey listen you all dirty minded people, who proclaimed to celebrate this day. This will definately hurt the feelings of Muslim Umma in whole world. Allah has mentioned prominently in Quran " Thou we have bestowed the Quran and thou we shall take care of it" So, it is cleared that our Allah will take care of His Holy Book. Allah ho Akbar
    And one thing more did the christians have forgotten the lessons in terms of wars between Muslims and christ in history, they all were bowed against Muslim's hero, Sultan Sallahu ud din Ayubi. So, if you will do what you have planned about 9 11, You will definately feel the Sultan in every soul of Muslim. We have faith in our Allah, he will Surely help us.

    August 20, 2010 at 8:33 pm |
    • pontius

      love the muslims but hate the koran. If you try to follow koran whole heartedly you have no option but to become a terrorist. This is the truth. Whether you agree or not in this country this pastor has the right to do what he is planning to do.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:46 pm |
    • Ed in Texas

      Sounds like you have made some sort of threat to us. It would seem that with even minimal intelligence, your type would have learned by now after what the US has done to Iraq and Afghanistan, that we dont take kindly to attacks and threats of any sort of harm. The attack on NYC on 9-11 by your brothers in faith helped open our eyes to your "kind natured" religion. Many us us have opened your koran and have seen with our own eyes just what kind of murdering beast your prophet/god muhammed was.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:04 am |
    • hippie

      ANY religion that claims to have a monopoly on truth or claims to be the only path to the Divine Spirit couldn't be further from the truth.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:15 am |
    • John

      HIPPIE-what book did you read that from?? Christ is the way, the truth and the life. Sorry to ruin your day.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:26 am |
    • DearyPie

      As a fellow Muslim I hate having people like you, lover be a any type of voice for the rest of us. My God, man your tone sounds like you are a terrorist waiting to punish those that offend your delicate senses. I don't like the idea of having a bunch of crazies burn the Koran but the book itself is just that-a book. Islam begins in your heart and soul. It is through treating others with peace, respect, and goodness that you become worthy of being a true Muslim. The prophet himself encourages us to be there for our fellow Muslim when he is in the wrong by stopping from committing a wrong. Wise up and watch how you speak to others.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:56 am |
    • DearyPie

      Ed in Texas, You need to be more respectful when speaking about another person's religion or religious figure. It is a sign of civility. I know that may prove difficult since you seems hell bent of painting all Muslims with the same murderous red paint. Try to overcome the hatred within your own heart. There is a better way than name calling. Peace be with you.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:00 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      idiot muslims are spending billions and billions of dollars buying weapon systems from Americans and can't even defend themselves. when somebody attacks them, they hide their tail between their legs and go beg America for protection instead of using the weapons they bought earlier. then they come on here and puff their chest and boast about saladin! laughing stock of the world.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:05 am |
    • Kusta

      who IS " Muslim's hero, Sultan Sallahu ud din Ayubi" ? How can I be afraid of someone I do not know of? If you think Islam is all that then you have not been to faithfreedom.org

      August 21, 2010 at 2:05 am |
  15. peace2all

    @Judy Haught

    Hey... that was a real thoughtful and helpful answer by you...! 'burn them all' 'god help the christians'... Does 'nothing' to create more understanding, civility or peace...

    As a christian.... I would think you should know better...?

    Peace....

    August 20, 2010 at 7:55 pm |
  16. Beauty Islam

    The more people try to do something against a religion the more publicity it brings or awareness to people to look into the RELIGION so thank you Allah for giving us muslims a way to spread ISLAM!! Allahu akbar

    August 20, 2010 at 7:54 pm |
    • peace2all

      @Beauty Islam

      Well.... You certainly are getting your wish.... There are more and more 'Christians' that are "looking into their religion" because of all that is going on.

      I hope that you being a muslim and the christians can somehow get along in peace someday...!

      Peace to you....

      August 20, 2010 at 7:58 pm |
    • Bob

      "There are more and more 'Christians' that are "looking into their religion" because of all that is going on."

      A devout christian is no different than a 757/767 muslim suicide bomber to some of us.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:27 pm |
      • peace2all

        @ Bob

        Wow... That's a little..... bit over the top, don't ya' think Bob.....? I mean don't get me wrong...... I am not for any of these religions, but that seemed to be a little much....

        Peace....;p

        August 21, 2010 at 3:14 am |
    • mytictac

      I would like answers to these questions.."why are Christians persecuted and killed because of their faith in Muslim countries You want to build your mosques all over this country–why can't Christians build churches in your countries without being killed or tortured?" I'm trying to understand, and in all honesty these nasty debates do nothing to help.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:29 pm |
      • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

        Christians are being killed in muslim countries for the same reason christians are bombing muslims in muslim countries. geo-politics and oil wars and competition for natural resources among major resource consuming nations of the world.

        to the average muslim on the street, a christian is a kin to the same westerner whose bombs are raining from the sky, so it is not unusual to exact revenge on the local helpless christian by mistake.

        in general christians are tolerated and treated very nicely in the muslim world. as long as they do not preach in public and keep a low profile, most islamists in the muslim world always help out christians and go the extra mile to make their life comfortable among the majority muslims.

        the only time when islamists turn nasty against christians is when they start openly preaching their religion in public. This is not appreciated by islamists and these christians know the rules, but choose to ask for trouble by disobeying them. Islam discourages open preaching of what it considers falsehoods and lies against God.

        There is no freedom to preach your religion in Islam, there is only freedom to practice your religion in your own homes and places of worship. If you really want to preach about God, become a Muslim and preach all you want. It does not cost you anything to become Muslim and whatever Godliness and Goodness your religion preaches, Islam offers the same, so if you have some extraordinary itch to preach in public about God and morality, you are welcome to preach islamic morals and ethics.

        August 21, 2010 at 3:28 am |
    • Fom

      Mystical – the last time I checked, Islam is not a country..........if you have issues with countries not allowing churches to be built, call that government and voice your political views......and, the whole point is that this country is founded on religious freedom....would be nice if you showed the world why you feel this country is the greatest on earth, rather than show hypocrisy

      August 20, 2010 at 11:56 pm |
    • Pongo

      mytictac,

      I would like you to answer these questions: Why, when you clearly think it is wrong for some Muslim nations to not allow Christian worship and buildings do you want to see the same sort of practice against Muslims here? Isn't the point of America's commitment to freedom of religion that we aren't like that? Why would you want us to become what you abhor in others?

      August 21, 2010 at 12:30 am |
  17. peace2all

    The pastor that is calling for a burn the koran day is an absolute idiot. That act will do nothing to further understanding, civility and peace of 2 of the major religions of the world.

    Hatred will not bring about peace..... this is not some kind of 'religious war'..... Peace and understanding will bring about Peace..

    I sincerely hope that this event does not take place, and am truly thankful that members of differing faiths are stepping up in agreement to talk about just how 'wrong' and disruptive this would be... in so many ways..

    Peace....

    August 20, 2010 at 7:49 pm |
    • Kiljoy616

      Peace is not coming, get over it. Islam as it is now has no place for Jews or Christian of any kind.

      But fear of the boogyman is what probably is motivating those to say this is dumb. Burn a Koran or a Bible, now does that affect a person faith, to me that sound like a very weak faith that needs violence to be believe in.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:49 am |
    • just nona

      Peace does exist, and it's already here. You don't need the Bible, Quran, or any other religious book to tell you this. Peace comes from the ability to understand one another. Perhaps as a society, peace cannot be achieved. But in each of our individual lives, we can choose to live it.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:33 am |
    • peace2all

      @kiljoy616

      Your post:

      Your pessimism and negativity does nothing but spur on the hatred being spread on this blog.

      To say that the only reason that people are against the burning of the koran ='being afraid of a boogeyman'..... Are you insane...?

      Please no more hate-mongering....

      Peace.....

      August 21, 2010 at 1:56 am |
    • notesham

      First of all there are more than 2 major religions in the world. Why is it ok to burn the american flag but not a book? Why is it that it is acceptable to desecrete a christian symbol but if you draw a toon or burn a book, you invite a fatwa. What is good for the goose is also good for the gander. Why the duplicity?
      If you think you can get peace by grabbing your ankles, you haven't studies world's history

      August 21, 2010 at 1:57 am |
    • peace2all

      @notesham

      If you read my post again.... 1) I said 2 'of' the major religions. 2) This is not a discussion about flag burning. 3) "What is good for the goose is good for the gander.."????? "Grab your ankles..?????

      My friend, your posting offers no help nor solutions for peace and harmony. Looks and sounds like more of same from others posting here.... hate-mongering and ignorance.

      Peace.....

      August 21, 2010 at 2:17 am |
    • notesham

      @peace2all

      oh allright, i missed the 'of'. I give you that
      I still find it uberconvenient for you to ignore the flagburning issue while you argue against the book burning. If one has a constitution given right to burn the flag, why is not Ok to burn something else e.g. book. While you accuse others of hatemongering, I see you as a dhimmi so eager to appease.

      I demand my freedom to burn a book I see fit if you demand the right to build a mosque at ground zero or if I tolerate others who burn something that I respect- the american flag. Why don't I get the same right as others you hypocrite?

      August 21, 2010 at 3:08 am |
    • Abraham Lincoln

      Islam is as real a religion as any religion is. Of course they're all stupid and ridiculous, but it's no more stupid and ridiculous than the people who worship a magical space zombie and and simulate cannibalism of his body.

      August 21, 2010 at 7:57 am |
    • 4thofJulybaby

      Taking in the body of Christ, is symbolic ofof Christ living within us, and thus living Christ-like. Unlike taking the lives of infidels on a suicide mission for your 72(?) virgins as a reward.

      August 21, 2010 at 8:01 am |
    • aatami

      Kiljoy616 – Well done! Burning books is always a good idea, if you are afraid of information. A true sign of ignorance and small mindedness. You are a perfect example of the ugly american. You spew fear and ignorance motivated verbage and I would bet my bottom dollar that you don't even know a single muslim nor have you ever even opened a Koran. Even Bush made the Koran part of the white house library. Too bad there's not an intelligence test to make a post, we wouldn't have to read such blithering dimwittedness as yours.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:50 am |
    • Fladabosco

      To notesham: it is wrong to burn the flag. It's not illegal but it's wrong. It's not illegal to burn books either but that doesn't mean it isn't wrong. If I lived in Florida I would tempted to go to the burning and start throwing bibles into the fire. But I won't – it's wrong.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:53 am |
    • HOWSAD

      How sad that there are so many ignorant, hating, revengeful people in this world.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:56 am |
    • elgathel

      The problem here is not "Islamophobia." The problem is that the Qur'an is chock full of Antisemitism, which is itself a virulent form of hatred. How can anyone condone a religion which explicitly denigrates Christians and Jews and stirs up violence against them? Have you ever wondered why Pakistan is so anti-Israel, but neighboring India is not? It's because Pakistan is a Muslim nation, and India is not. Antisemitism forms the very core of Islam, and until Muslims renounce this aspect of their faith, there will never be peace in the Middle East. It is not just that the Arabs are contesting Israel's right to her ancestral lands; Muslims all over the world are contesting the right of Jews everywhere even to exist as a people. If you think American Muslims are any different, just check out the video of Michael Oren, Israel's ambassador to the U.S., being heckled by Muslim students at the University of California. Muslims hate the Jews for being Jews. Period.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:04 pm |
    • forestmonk

      we should take away the tax exemption of any religious group/church that preaches a message of hate. at the heart of all religion is the message of peace and love.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:09 pm |
    • just nona

      HOWSAD- I agree. The best we can do is choose not to contribute to the hate. Choose to understand.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:10 pm |
    • iac249

      It seems only an attempt to propagate fear, hatred, and mistrust. I think the world has enough of that already. I

      August 21, 2010 at 12:11 pm |
    • Bill G

      The FL religious leaders are disingenious, holier-than-thou, bigots. Citizens who follow the Qur'ran are entitled to our understanding and support. Terrorists come from many different segments our our world...let's fight them together as one people.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:17 pm |
    • Niwotmom

      @Abraham Lincoln-

      The consumption of the body of Christ, is NOT cannibalism. Jesus said to his desciples, "this is my body, take and eat, this is my blood take and drink. Without it, you will not have life withing you".

      You may not understand or believe, but please don't mock those that do!

      August 21, 2010 at 1:03 pm |
    • jonathan

      what workable solution do you have? Terry Jones is absolutely right to burn the Koran..He is showing contempt for a religion that almost a decade ago changed our world in just one act..Now here almost ten years later.....No one has come forward with a better idea than the wringing of th hands and the outrage at Islamic activities like building a mosque where they have the right to in NY... You're just a coward cause you're afraid of Muslim anger an rage!

      August 21, 2010 at 1:04 pm |
    • Brent W

      >The problem here is not "Islamophobia." The problem is that the Qur'an is chock full of Antisemitism,
      >which is itself a virulent form of hatred...
      In response to the above, I agree that the Qur'an includes these things and you see antisemitism among Muslims in general. However, in all fairness, the Christian Bible is also chock full of it too. There's countless scriptures, primarily in the Old Testament, about the Jews supposedly being commanded by God to wipe out other nations and tribes that worshipped other Gods or idols. I love the way some Christians preach tolerance (which is good) but the irony is that their own Bible has many, many stories where the Biblical God practices extreme intolerance, even wiping out peoples to the very last woman, child, and baby. Some Christians pick up this and use it to embolden their hate mongering while others choose to simply ignore it. Burning books will do nothing but inflame people's emotions. Rather than burning books, perhaps we should read these books carefully and ask ourselves if they truly reflect an intelligent, loving Creator or ancient man's distorted notion of God.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:06 pm |
    • August 9th Peace

      I never know what to wear to Burn a Quran Day. Some of the pages are missing in mine as I ran out of toilet paper a few days ago. Wouldn't ya know it; I used the ending so I will never know how it finishes up. As for peaceful solutions; I prefer the August 9th solution. Tamed the Japanese pretty well didn't it?

      August 21, 2010 at 1:21 pm |
    • Bill Kilpatrick

      It's sad and pathetic to take someone's holy book and burn it. It is un-American. It is un-Christian. It is un-civilized and unintelligent. Nothing good can come from this, except the decision, by any thoughtful, sentient, person to not to be associated with idiotic jerks who invoke the name of Jesus while failing to read any of his teachings.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:27 pm |
    • Doug C

      With all the violence associated with all regions, singling out one as being the book of the devil would be quite difficult. I also think burning any book is what extreme radical people do. Instead I suggest simply downloading all three books digitally, (Christian, Jewish, Muslim) and simply delete them.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:30 pm |
    • Milliscent

      Education and information is the answer. Christianity has performed evil deeds in the name of god in the past. Islam followers need to be educated and informed. This will change more than wars will ever change.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:32 pm |
    • JohnForStandUpAmericanAgainst_Islam

      The action of the Dove World Outreach Center is proposing God's will upon the Devil Islam Book identified as Koran; burn Quran burn in hell for Islam, the Koran is absolutely hell made by their god Mohammed who was a pervert. The Quran guides the fate of Rifqa Bary - the teenage Christian convert who ran away from her Ohio home fearing her Muslim parents would kill her; Rifqa is a Christian who exposes the stench of Islam. Those of you cannot be so clueless as to ignore the world wide war on Jesus. If you think that you will escape by pretending that the death sentence for apostacy does not exist in Islam, you are wrong...It is the religion that no one can refuse. They will kill you. Stand_Up_America_Against_Islam

      August 21, 2010 at 1:41 pm |
    • Celeste

      Aside from spreading hate, and not promoting peace, this is totally unchristian.

      It really bothers me how many people can take a religion, with teachings of peace, and twist it into a religion of hatred. This goes for Christians, Muslims, and everyone else who misconstrues the word of God.

      As a Christian myself, I find it especially disgusting. This and the Westboro Baptist Church are two examples I can think off of the top of my head. They've managed to create churches based on hate, not on Christ and his teachings of understanding and peace. They spout their hatred in the name of our lord, disgusting. This detracts from the majority of Christians who are striving to live by Jesus's teachings, and those of whom have done a lot of good for our world in acts of charity and giving.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:46 pm |
    • wingman96

      Truly sad what this says about the current climate in our country. There will always be crazies out there, but how do they get so much press?

      August 21, 2010 at 2:58 pm |
    • Kenny

      I agree

      August 21, 2010 at 5:09 pm |
    • haneef abdul rafee

      it is a sad day when poeple would even foster the thought of burning any religous book but most of the quran the guidence to man kind with no errors or alterations like other religous books. one day the world will wish they were muslims when the see themselves being brung face to face with hell. islam is a peacefull religion but it teaches us to fight for our rights and stand against oppresion. for slaughter is better than oppresion. and who are man to denie the words of god? christans say there book is from god and are the words of god. but god is perfect and he doesn't make any mistakes. so why are there numerous contradictions in the bible from begining to end? most christains don't even know where and how the bible came to be but they believe in it whole heartedly. christian scholars have attested to the fact that the bible has been distorted, and it is a proven fact that the quran hasn't so if you want to burn a religous book burn the one that isn't complete and that has numerous errors running through it's veins.

      August 21, 2010 at 7:42 pm |
    • Saj

      To all Christians brothers: if a book glorifies Adam, Abraham, Moses, Noah, Isaac, Jesus as well as many of the other great prophets, then why would you burn it anyway? Before you decide to burn it, please try to read it, as ignorance is not an excuse. Surely you will find it to be the final message from your Lord, to save humanity from destruction.
      Almighty God's promise to mankind:
      Quran [15:9] Absolutely, we have revealed the reminder, and, absolutely, we will preserve it.

      August 22, 2010 at 12:02 am |
    • Iqbal musaji

      Hadhrat Shaykh Zulfqar Ahmad (db) said
      In 1987, Qari Abdul Basit was visiting America, the same Qari Abdul Basit whose cassettes of the Holy Quran have become famous. Someone asked him once if he had seen a miracle of the Holy Quran, to which Qari Abdul Basit said, "Just one miracle? I can relate thousands which I have seen with my own eyes." The man asked him to relate some, so Qari Abdul Basit started talking.
      Qari Abdul Basit related an event from the time of Jamal Abdul Nasser, who was once the president of Egypt. Communism was at its height, and once while on tour of the Soviet Union, Nasser was pressured heavily to become a communist and thus spread the doctrine in his country. He was promised that the Soviet Union would make Egypt a technological giant if only Nasser would renounce Islam and introduce Communism as the state religion. Abdul Nasser politely refused and thus ended this particular tour. He reached home but was restless that he had not defended Islam as sufficiently as he should have because he was not knowledgeable enough.
      Abdul Nasser was invited to the Soviet Union again after a few years, and so this time he requested Qari Abdul Basit to come to Moscow with him. Abdul Basit was surprised because he had never imagined that he would ever be required in the Soviet Union, a land whose government and people refused to acknowledge Allah.
      On this occasion Jamal Abdul Nasser courageously introduced Qari Abdul Basit to the Soviet heads of state, telling them that he would recite the Holy Quran, the Book of Islam. Qari Abdul Basit closed his eyes and started reciting Surah Ta Ha, the same part of the Holy Quran that had made one of the worst enemies of Islam, Hadrat Umar ibn Khattab, bow to Islam.
      Qari Abdul Basit opened his eyes and looked up after reciting two rukus, and he saw the miracle of the Holy Quran in front of his eyes. Four to five heads of the Communist Party were in tears. Jamal Abdul Nasser smiled and asked, "Why are you crying?" to which one of them replied, "We don't know. We haven't understood a word but there is something in this Quran that has melted our hearts and compelled us to cry. We don't know what has done this."
      Qari Abdul Basit said that this was an amazing miracle that he saw in front of him. These were people who did not know the Glorious Quran; did not accept the Glorious Quran, and who could not understand the Glorious Quran, yet Allah was affecting their hearts through the recital of the Glorious Quran. Hadhrat Imam Ghulam Habib (ra) used to say that no one makes routes for rivers; rivers make their own routes and ways. The Holy Quran is such a Book that winds its own route of mercy through to the hearts of people, which is why the unbelievers of Makkah and Madinah accepted Islam upon hearing it. This is why the unbelievers used to confer among themselves and advise each other to shout and make noise whenever the Holy Quran would be read, so that they would not be affected.
      However, the Holy Quran was sent to win over hearts, and Allah accepts those who live their lives by it. We should try and read the Holy Quran often and act according to its instructions so that Allah makes us successful both in this world and the Hereafter.
      Our righteous predecessors received blessings because of their closeness to the Holy Quran. This was the Message that shook Arabia, and wherever the Sahabah turned with this Book, the world was compelled to bow. Those camel and sheepherders who refused to bow to Caesar of Rome became people who changed the destiny of the world. How? They used to act upon the Holy Quran, unlike people who don't act upon it now. They were true lovers of this Glorious Quran, reading softly or loudly, sometimes crying.
      This Book has been sent to enlighten hearts, and if even today people read it with love, Allah will shower blessings upon them. This is a Book of guidance, sent to bring mankind out of darkness and into light. The lovers of the Glorious Quran receive the honor of both this world and the next, like the heights that Allah had awarded the Sahabah.

      August 22, 2010 at 8:16 pm |
    • Iqbal musaji

      There are many stories that contemporary imams rarely tell their congregations. The story of Mukhayriq, a rabbi from Medina, is one such story. I have heard the stories about the battle of Uhud, one of prophet Muhammad's (SAW) major battles with his Meccan enemies, from imams and Muslim preachers hundreds of times, but not once have I heard the story of Mukhayriq, who died fighting in that battle against the enemies of Islam.

      So, I will tell the story of Rabbi Mukhayriq - the first Jewish martyr of Islam. It is quite apropos, as the season of spiritual holidays has begun.

      Mukhayriq was a wealthy and learned leader of the tribe of Tha'labah. He fought with Prophet Muhammad (SAW) in the battle of Uhud on March 19, 625 AD, and was martyred in it. That day was a Saturday. Rabbi Mukhayriq addressed his people and asked them to go with him to help Muhammad (SAW). His tribe's men declined, saying that it was the day of Sabbath. Mukhayriq chastised them for not understanding the deeper meaning of Sabbath and announced that if he died in the battle, his entire wealth should go to Muhammad (SAW).

      Mukhayriq died in battle against the Meccans. And when Muhammad (SAW), who was seriously injured in that battle, was informed about that death of Mukhayriq, Muhammad (SAW) said, "He was the best of Jews."

      Muhammad (SAW) inherited seven gardens and other forms of wealth from Mukhayriq. Muhammad (SAW) used this wealth to establish the first waqf - a charitable endowment - of Islam. It was from this endowment that the Prophet of Islam helped many poor people in Medina.

      When Muhammad (SAW) migrated form Mecca to Medina in 622, he signed a treaty with the various tribes that lived in and around Medina. Many of these tribes had embraced Islam, some were pagan and others were Jewish. All of them signed the treaty with Muhammad (SAW) that is referred to by historians as the Constitution of Medina. The first Islamic state, a multi-tribal and multi-religious state, established by Muhammad (SAW) in Medina, was based on this social contract.

      According to article 2 of the constitution, all the tribes who were signatories to the treaty constituted one nation (Ummah). Mukhayriq's people, too, were signatories to this treaty and were obliged to fight with Muhammad (SAW) in accordance with article 37 of the constitution, which says: "The Jews must bear their expenses and the Muslims their expenses. Each must help the other against anyone who attacks the people of this document. They must seek mutual advice and consultation, and loyalty is a protection against treachery. A man is not liable for his ally's misdeeds. The wronged must be helped."

      In a way, Rabbi Mukhayriq, who was also a well-respected scholar of Jews in Medina, was merely being a good citizen and was fulfilling a social contract. But his story is fantastic, especially for our times, when we are struggling to build bridges between various religious communities. Mukhayriq's loyalty, his bravery, his sacrifice and his generosity are inspirational.

      Perhaps it is about people like Mukhayriq that the Quran says: "And there are, certainly, among Jews and Christians, those who believe in God, in the revelation to you, and in the revelation to them, bowing in humility to God. They will not sell the Signs of God for a miserable gain! For them is a reward with their Lord" (3:199).

      Mukhayriq was a true citizen of the state of Medina, and he gave his life in its defense. He was a Jew, and he was a true Islamic hero, and his story must never be forgotten.

      If Muslim imams told his story, I am confident that it would contribute to manifestations of increased tolerance by Muslims toward others. There are many such wonderful examples of brotherhood, tolerance, sacrifice and good citizenship in Islamic traditions that undergird the backbone of Islamic ethics. I wish we told them more often.

      August 22, 2010 at 8:18 pm |
    • Iqbal musaji

      .1 There are approximately 1.6 million Muslims in Britain. They form the country’s largest religious
      minority and come from diverse ethnic backgrounds. Although three quarters of British Muslims are of
      South Asian origin there are also significant numbers of Muslims from North Africa and the Middle East,
      Central and Eastern Africa, Eastern Europe, Turkey, Iran and Afghanistan. In addition, there are a
      significant number of British White and African-Caribbean converts to Islam.
      1.2 Although the majority of first generation British Muslims arrived as economic migrants, Muslims
      now work in all trades, industries and professions and at all levels, making an invaluable contribution
      to the British economy. In making this contribution there is no reason why Muslims should not also be
      able to fulfil their religious obligations. All that is required is that employers are aware that Islam is a
      comprehensive way of life and that understanding, flexibility and reasonable accommodation at work
      will not only allow Muslim employees to observe their religious obligations but also improve their
      performance in the workplace.
      1.3 However, a lack of understanding and accommodation, resulting in unfair discrimination in
      employment, is an unfortunate reality for many Muslims in Britain. Although equality laws have been
      in place to protect individuals from discrimination in employment for almost thirty years, these have not
      reflected the multi-faith character of British society. They have provided protection on the grounds of
      race, colour, nationality and national or ethnic origin – but not on the grounds of religion or belief. This
      has meant that the prejudice and discrimination against Muslims in the workplace, on the grounds of
      their religious identity, has never been directly addressed. The introduction of the Employment Equality
      (Religion or Belief) Regulations 2003 is therefore a welcome step forward. It recognises both that
      religion is often a central aspect of a person’s identity and that discrimination based on religion is as
      unacceptable as discrimination based on any other aspect of identity – for example, race or gender. This
      should greatly assist to promote better understanding, accommodation and equality of opportunity for
      Muslims in employment and vocational training.
      1.4 This guide has been produced to provide both employers and employees with an understanding of
      the main provisions of the Regulations. It also explains the specific needs of the Muslim community at
      work and how these can be best accommodated. The final section of the Guide seeks to provide some
      guidance on some frequently asked questions.

      August 22, 2010 at 8:23 pm |
    • Dave

      peace2all, your responce to someone questing what you wrote shows that you do not pratice what you preach. If you really look at the Quran and there law you you would see the hold no respect for any other religions or way of life. I have lived in side this way life and if I was to speak out about it at home I might not be here tomorrow to read your responce.

      August 23, 2010 at 1:02 pm |
    • p53

      If this so-called church cannot see its hipocrisy, and self-damnation so be it. We cannot control a group of religious fanatics, and plain old nut-jobs. The error of judging, and trespassing against others, in the name of whoever that "churches" god is; will be dealt with. "And with what measure ye mete, it will be measured unto you again". I'll close in the words of that blasphmous pharoah of that day: "so let it be written, so let it be done." Amen.

      August 23, 2010 at 1:03 pm |
    • Christian DeVille

      Burning Korans on 9/11 is a bad ide. It is better to do that during Ramadan. 🙂

      August 27, 2010 at 6:30 pm |
  18. talib

    what you think the ALLAH is not same who gives you as ESSA IBNE MARYAM and the HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMAD (S.A.W).ESSA IBNE MARYAM was the second last prophet of ALLAH and MUHAMMAD (S.A.W) is the last prophet and no more prophet further.same ALLAH gives you the books BIBLE and QURAN and you want to burn the QURAN ALLAH never forgive you because you are goinig to burn that thing to which ALLAH take the promise of protect it and you dirty people want to burn you got a punishment in the shape of fire MAY ALLAH GIVES YOU THE HUGE TYPE OF PANE OF DEATH......

    August 20, 2010 at 7:39 pm |
    • peace2all

      @talib

      I can certainly understand your feelings on this and the ignorant christians who want to and believe this is a great thing... to have a burn the Qu'ran day..... However, you certainly are not helping your case by wishing the 'pain of death' on someone.

      That is just as shameful and wrong too. If you want people to understand, then no more hate-mongering..

      Peace to you....

      August 20, 2010 at 7:52 pm |
      • Alvin D

        @peace2all

        "hate-mongering"
        I do not think that word means what you think it means.

        August 21, 2010 at 1:14 pm |
        • peace2all

          @Alvin D

          You very well may be right about my useage of the word 'hate-mongering.' It is short hand for me, and I believe that 99% of the posters recognize that basically, I am saying stop with the inflammatory rhetoric, speech, and bigotry towards a religion that apparently quite a number of people posting on this article seem to think that 'virtually' anyone who is a Muslim is basically a t e r r o r i s t

          If you read the postings, most want to do spew hate, if not some kind of harm..... And that is why I use the term....it's just short hand.

          Peace......

          August 22, 2010 at 10:07 am |
    • Will

      @ Judy Haught

      You sound like a terrible person and represent everything that is wrong with the majority of christians in America. You're a mean, bigoted person. Jesus would be ashamed of you.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:24 pm |
      • Fred

        Lk at the bible and how many people were killed. No man woman or child were saved.

        August 21, 2010 at 8:43 am |
    • AthensGuy

      Take Christ and the Bible back to where they came from... oops, same place as the Torah and the Q'uran...

      August 20, 2010 at 10:24 pm |
    • kjsmith110

      If you study your Muslim history, Allah is not the one true god of the Bible, but is the name given to the moon god who was worshipped by the descendants of Ishmael. Also, if the facts I have read are true, Islamic followers hold to the belief that Mohammed was the greatest prophet, and Jesus Christ was not the son of God, but only a man who was also a prophet, but considered less than Mohammed.

      As a Christian, I believe that there is but one God, the God of the Bible and the only way to salvation and everlasting life is by believing that his son Jesus Christ died for my sins and by repenting and believing on Him and accepting His forgiveness and letting Him be the Lord of my life, I will live with Him in Heaven one day. Just as Jesus said, I do not wish that any would perish, but that all would come to Him and accept Him as their Savior.

      If you, as a Muslim, say that you wish Allah will heap pain and suffering on Christians, then how can you say that Islam is a peaceful religion? When I pray to God, I don't ask Him to inflict pain or punishment on Muslims, but instead pray that the Holy Spirit will be able to open their eyes to truth and the love of God.

      In all of the debate about giving Muslims religious freedom here is the U.S., I want to ask one question and ask everyone to think on this-why are Christians persecuted and killed because of their faith in Muslim countries You want to build your mosques all over this country–why can't Christians build churches in your countries without being killed or tortured?

      August 20, 2010 at 10:43 pm |
      • Avi Shlomo

        I think you are a Mori]on Allah is the name of God in Arabic and your can find this in Any Arabic written christian bible. Remeber even the world Allah is in the original aramiac language that Jesus spoke and it is the mother of today's Arabic langauge. The world Allah is not vene the invention iof Islam. This show so much ignorance and stupidity on your part and those who leades you. you are just another moron chear leader in this saga of hate

        August 20, 2010 at 11:40 pm |
      • Jubril

        First you have your facts wrong, Allah is arabic for God. Not some moon god . Yes we believe Jesus Christ is a Prophet of God not Son, because God does not have a Father nor does he have a wife or son or daughter. Besides Jesus (Isa)'s Father is Joseph and mother is Mary. Mary carried him in the belly like any other being God created. Other prophets of God include Abraham,Adam,Isaac,Elijah,Moses

        August 21, 2010 at 2:29 am |
        • MacTubb

          @Jubril
          So is it impossible for Muslims to simply view those books in the hands of those people as already def!led and so they should be destroyed anyway? Because that's how I would feel about it. It would be an excellent solution.

          August 21, 2010 at 3:11 am |
        • Edwin

          @MacTubb: I think it's a cultural thing. In those parts of the world, it may be perceived as worse to insult religion than to kill someone. Thus, they might even feel they are using moderation and restraint, since they are not burning bibles.

          The bottom line, however, is that there are angry, unreasoning people there just as here. And the rule of law is, I think, stronger here than there. So the nutcases here who want to kill muslims in the United States and burn their mosques to the ground are better kept in check than the nutcases there who want to kill christians in Pakistan and burn their churches.

          August 21, 2010 at 4:04 am |
        • freewoman

          draw a picture and call it Muhammad.. and they will cut your head off.

          August 21, 2010 at 5:19 am |
        • U 4 Real?

          Why don't you and see what happens?

          August 21, 2010 at 11:31 am |
        • reem

          who ever who's going to cut his/her head is not a real muslim they just pretend they are just like 9/11
          islam is the religion of peace as u can't see any " real muslim " make fun of ur religion !
          we believe in freedom unlike other people who just pretend they do !

          August 21, 2010 at 3:07 pm |
        • reem

          ^^^^ @ freewoman
          " draw a picture and call it Muhammad.. and they will cut your head off " !!!

          August 21, 2010 at 3:11 pm |
        • ICEMAN

          @ Peace2all "i love the name" and @ freewoman....to you atheist is funny for one i'm a christian and know about alot of the history of it "well European christanity", the futher you look the more darker it gets and i mean skin color. Now if you want someone to believe your position then you have to give it in small doses. Not the whole bottle, you have to tell them to search for themselfs. Now yall kill me to think that we can evolve as a people and how space is beautifully made from what " you people say a big bang" lol from nothing then a spark. how old do you think the earth is. all the evidence you have just confirms to me and more and more scientist that God does exist. BUT FOR THE REAL BIBLE we will never know cause the same thing they did with what you were talking about the alexandira libary they did with the bible. So that bible statement was for a christian not an atheist..... there are books in the bible that are talked about but not in there. my statement to him was for him to open up to the possibity of more books in the bible that was left out

          August 21, 2010 at 7:39 pm |
        • ICEMAN

          oh and don't get it twisted i love you the same as anyone else. and if that is what you believe then all i want you to do is live a good life and be happy and if that is what makes you happy then i'm happy for you.. I have learn alot form atheist "good stuff to make me a better man and smarter one also but i understand why you think the way yall do"truly i do"

          August 21, 2010 at 7:48 pm |
        • dont get it twisted

          @ICEMAN

          "Did you sleep on the wrong side?
          I'm catching a bad vibe
          And it's contagious, What's the latest?
          Speak your heart, Don't bite your tongue
          Don't get it twisted, Don't misuse it
          What's your problem?
          Lets resolve it
          We can solve it, What's the causes?
          It's official, You got issues
          I got issues, but I know I miss you..."
          Song: We Need A Resolution
          Artist: Aaliyah

          August 22, 2010 at 4:26 am |
        • ICEMAN

          LOL funny i mean what i write, i write what i mean so i am a loving peaceful man. When i was into my christanity blindly i couldn't understand why people don't believe in God but i truely understand THERE POINT OF VIEW SOOOO I THOUGHT I SAID IT PLAINLY ENOUGH..... like how you came at me with some lyrics cool. I debate to teach and learn mostly learn cause there is so much to learn from people.

          August 22, 2010 at 7:06 pm |
        • MacTubb

          @Edwin

          What makes a cultural thing? It's learned behavior. If you are brainwashed into doing something insane, who's fault is it?
          No one likes accountability because nobody wants to be held accountable for their actions. Religion and "culture things" are some of the best ways of avoiding responsibility that humans have ever developed.
          Monkey and ape behavior is still being studied, but we've got plenty of relevant data already.
          This is all psychological in nature and scope.
          And hardly anyone can face that fact.
          Religion is custom-made madness used as a tool.
          Don't be a tool.

          August 21, 2010 at 5:35 am |
        • c.g.s

          @MacTubb

          You are exactly right. I could fill a tool shed with the posts on this story.

          August 21, 2010 at 10:24 am |
      • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

        no christians are killed or persecuted in muslim countries for their faith. you are welcome to be a christian in islamistan. you are just not welcome to preach your falsehood in public. most of the time, the christians who have been killed or harmed in islamistan are the ones who choose to ignore the rules and try to preach in public. they know they are breaking the laws of the land in so doing, and they end up in trouble as a result.

        Islam offers you a simple choice. if you have some extra ordinary itch to preach in public about God and Morality. Convert to islam! costs you nothing and whatever Good and Godly your religion has, Islam has better. So why not preach something better?? If you do not want to preach something better than what you have, then you are being intellectually dishonest, and Islam is not interested in intellectually dishonest people preaching in its midst. Very simple and straightforward really.

        August 21, 2010 at 3:34 am |
        • deccaone

          (b)iraq hussein osama
          you truly are an ass. how can you say that Christians are free to live in any islamic nation when your teachings tell you to convert those non muslims and, if they won't convert, they are infidels and must be killed. i have yet to know any muslim who will not look me in the face and tell me that Jesus was a hoax and that i will burn in hell as a non muslim. your religion spreads hate for those non believers and death to those not wishing to convert. the mere fact that a mosque is being built so close to ground zero is a shame and a slap in the face to ALL Americans and should never have been thought of in the first place. by the way, i am a very proud Canadian. every time i have ever seen a muslim preach his/her faith in public, they have always told those non muslims that 9/11 was justified and deserved. where the hell is the love in that.

          August 21, 2010 at 8:13 am |
        • chris

          hey buddy , read the koran before you sound off on what it says, or have you an cherry pick like you do the buybull. im not a muslim an i will say it to you face jesus was a hoax, jesus was female , the man they called jesus took her place to protect her so she could do more , yes i mean mary magdalene . but hey christians refuse to give women equal rights also . dont forget black men could vote before white women . but hey blind minds keep the world blind. an the koran actually says if they renegade against them to kill them . but hey if i cherry pick the buybull it will tell me what i want it to say also.

          August 21, 2010 at 10:32 am |
        • freewoman

          Jesus was Titus....

          August 21, 2010 at 10:40 am |
        • jack h.

          thats a good story you told about jesus being a hoax who was only covering for mary magdalene? you're a freakin idiot.

          August 21, 2010 at 11:30 am |
        • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

          TO PREACH IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY you have to be SINCERE ABOUT GOD AND RIGHTEOUSNESS.
          if you are sincere, you will have no qualms about converting to islam and preaching, but if you are not sincere, then you will not be willing to convert and as a result you will not be allowed to preach as a insincere person. Islam forces you to evaluate your reasons for preaching. if your reasons are ulterior, you are disallowed, if your reasons are sincere, than what is the problem?? what does it matter to you whether you are preaching Jesus of Allah, its the same God and the same good morals and manners.

          August 21, 2010 at 12:31 pm |
        • zeshan farooqi

          Hear oh Isreal your lord our God he is one and love the Lord. It is sad they have to do it but burning a holy book which is a mercy for us and them wont harm us we have them all over the internet and in our home and plenty in copy and predicted in the bible as well. did you all know jesus spoke aramaic and called his father Allah just like we muslims do. Do you know no muslims is a muslim unless he belives in jesus as the messiah that his birth was a miracle and that he is coming back
          [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RbVt8Us8aY&w=640&h=360]
          watch this video itll tell you I LOVE JESUS and the Quran Loves Jesus and His mother theres a chapter dedicated to his mother she is the only women mentioned by name in the Quran...........theres no excuse to be ignorant in this world its what satan wants us to do...............http://www.signsofthelastday.com/1_returntoearth.html
          Allah, there is no god but Him, the Living, the Self-Sustaining. He has sent down the Book to you with truth, confirming what has there before it. And He sent down the Torah and the Gospel, previously, as guidance for mankind, and He has sent down the Furqan (the Criterion of judgement between right and wrong). (Surah Al ‘Imran: 2-4)

          He (‘Isa) is a Sign of the Hour. Have no doubt about it. But follow me. This is a straight path. (Surat az-Zukhruf: 61)

          Remember when Allah said, “‘Isa, son of Maryam, remember My blessing to you and to your mother when I reinforced you with the Purest Spirit so that you could speak to people in the cradle and when you were fully grown (wakahlan) …” (Surat al-Ma’ida: 110)

          He will speak to people in the cradle, and also when fully grown (wakahlan), and will be one of the righteous. (Surah Al 'Imran: 46)

          Isa’ (as) is the Messenger of Allah and His Word. (Surat an-Nisa’: 171)

          Allah gave his name as the Messiah, ‘Isa (as), son of Maryam (as). (Surah Al ‘Imran: 45)

          He was made a sign for all the worlds. (Surat al-Anbiya’: 91)

          ‘Isa (as) was given the Gospel. (Surat al-Hadid: 27)

          Those who divinized him have committed an error and fallen into blasphemy. (Surat al-Ma’ida: 72)

          The disbelievers plotted against him in order to kill him, but Allah nullified their plot. (Surah Al ‘Imran: 54)

          (And We cursed them) for their saying, “We killed the Messiah, ‘Isa son of Maryam, Messenger of Allah." They did not kill him and they did not crucify him but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. But they certainly did not kill him. (Surat an-Nisa’: 157)

          READ READ READ SURAH MARYAM!!!! you will know that him peace buh and His mother were honarable in this life and the hereafter may the peace and blessings of allah be with you!!!!!!!

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          August 22, 2010 at 8:21 am |
      • ufadoof

        Uh news flash. We are talking about a mosque being built within our society and country not another. That's why we are a stronger society. You bring a false argument with your silly comparison. I suggest you move to Saudi Arabia where your world view will fit in perfectly with theirs. You know, except for that that whole killling infidels thing.

        August 21, 2010 at 4:17 am |
      • salayem

        Can you quoted a single line from Quran that support your lies?
        Kings 8:2 kill their young men with the sword, dash their little children to the ground, and rip open their pregnant women." You will not have something like this in the Quran.

        August 21, 2010 at 4:58 am |
      • Richard

        I have a question: this is something I've struggled with for most of my life...Why is it that Christians (I am one) believe that their bible is the one and only TRUE book? Why do they believe that their splinter faith in Jesus is the ONLY way to go? I mean, it comes from the same Old Testament that the other two religions come from. To me, it seems so incredibly obvious that, if in fact the first one (the Old Test) was created through God, that the others are just humans trying to personalize it and switch it around to separate from others. If God is perfect, then he wouldn't have created new and improved versions. We know (through history) that kings and other rulers have had their hand in molding and sculpting Christianity. I believe in God, but I do NOT believe in man, therefore I cannot believe all of the the things man has written and interpreted. Besides, what kind of God would allow us to subject any other human being. Too much of these religions happens to be misogynistic to believe that man's manipulative hand was not involved.

        August 21, 2010 at 7:22 am |
        • Ken

          The problem is one of faith and the imperfection of man. Man creates the various tomes and books professing to speak to God's will. Even if God were speaking directly to man, man would have to be perfect to copy God's words to a book. And since man is imperfect, we know that is not possible. Now lets add in the translations from one langauge to another over time, and how languages change and the meaning of words drift. The imperfections of man will ensure what is in the modern tomes and books is NOT what was originally written down 2000+ years ago. Words will be mixed, meanings scrambled and lost. One need only read the Wiki article on the ten commandments to see how different authors of the words have changed things slightly over the years ... Thou shall not steal .. You shall not steal ..... Neither should you steal ... all from different books, while some older texts list it as You shall not kidnap, or other anti-slavery phrases. If the experts can't even agree on the ten commandments, should any of the books be considered more than guides and teaching, mere distoreted echos of what God truly wants?

          August 21, 2010 at 11:20 am |
        • Brent W

          If God were intelligent and powerful enough to create this awe-inspiring universe we live in, don't you think he'd be able to communicate effectively to his creation if he wanted to? Why would he fail? So many people cling to the idea that the Bible is 100% true or that it is pretty much true except for the parts where man failed to do a good job translating it. However, neither makes sense. If you look at all of the many flaws in the Bible and make a list, it eventually becomes obvious that God could not have been so dumb, and such an ineffective communicator to create such a document. However, it makes perfect sense that mankind could create such a book. The Bible is simply one more set of documents from mere men who were capitalizing on our inherent need to know our Creator. Because of that need, we're willing to overlook it's flaws rather than looking at the book for what it is.

          August 21, 2010 at 1:14 pm |
        • Nadine

          Amen, Richard.

          August 21, 2010 at 1:43 pm |
      • Scott

        It's nice to hope for a Heaven. Sadly, I don't believe that it and Hell even exist. You have nothing to worry about. There won't be an afterlife, no pleasure, no pain or suffering, no thoughts or feelings of any kind. Just black nothingness. Death is not like being unborn. It will be just like dreamless eternal sleep. I can't explain, but somehow, I just know...I'm not inclined to believe that God even exists. Science has yet to show us. Even if he did, how do we know he even cares? How do we know that he's entirely benevolent? If he manifested himself physically in the past that made his existence clearly known to people, why doesn't he (or can't he) do it now?

        August 21, 2010 at 7:55 am |
      • obamalilmama

        Sorry hun but your wrong. Islamically, there is no distinction between any of the Prophets sent to us by God: Adam, Moses, Jacob, Jesus, Abraham, or Muhammad (saw), we as muslims believe that all of the Prophets were sent to us with a message and that Prophet Muhammad was sent with the last most perfect message. Esa (Jesus) is a highly respected prophet in Islam, we believe that he will return to the earth so we believe in his message as well, we just know that it was tainted by MEN, and when he walks this earth again he will reveal to ALL people the truth of his message ISLAM..ESA (Jesus) in Islam is the only perfect man. He never sinned..so darling Islamically we are taught to love and respect all MESSENGER's. That sweetie is where your wrong.

        August 21, 2010 at 9:31 am |
      • Bible Burner

        Blah blah blah.

        August 21, 2010 at 11:41 am |
      • JohnRJ08

        Probably goes back to a little thing called the Crusades. Then there's the British imperialism of the 19th and 20th centuries.

        August 21, 2010 at 12:08 pm |
    • freewoman

      those stone worshipers got too many prophets and not enough free thinking.
      think for your self and forget the brainwashing old c-r-a-p..

      try being human.. its fun and we don't have to kill others to make super daddy in the sky happy.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:44 pm |
    • WiDawg

      Say what????

      August 20, 2010 at 10:46 pm |
    • Greg

      Wow, are you people so brain dead, You can't recognize a troll post? Your replying to this clown like he actually meant what he posted. And people wonder how 20% of this country are so stupid they think Obama is a Muslim.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:19 pm |
  19. A German

    Stupid people!!

    They have not learned from the history. Just remind what Hitler has done with the books of our jewish neighbour. NEVER FORGET THIS TOO!!!

    Do we live in a country that has the freedom of speech? A church that means to change the spirit of people by burning there books is far out of touch with the bible.

    And by the way, don't forget that 400 Muslims died in the tower too.

    August 20, 2010 at 7:30 pm |
    • Nimrod

      Burning the quran IS a great example of freedom of speech which the muslims would absolutely deny us if they were in power. Does that 400 include those flying the planes?

      August 20, 2010 at 10:17 pm |
    • ItGoesBothWawys

      The church has the right to express themselves, even with this book burning, even if you don't like it.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:19 pm |
    • Rev. Selim

      It is sad to see that someone who promotes such acts can claim to be a church. The church which was founded by Christ Himself preaches love and peace towards all of God's creation. We condemn actions, not people! God alone is the judge. Anyone who preaches otherwise is only claiming to be a so called "church"

      August 20, 2010 at 11:53 pm |
    • 1guytalkin

      The difference is the Jews didn't constantly say the Germans were infidels that needed to be wiped out

      August 20, 2010 at 11:59 pm |
    • Bruce

      Just another victory for Bin Laden, the destruction of our personal freedoms and loss of rights are all victories of 9/11 terrorist strike. Destroying Korans and not allowing the construction or a mosque just demonstrate our weakness of convictions and constitution and government. Hand Osama a victory staff he is already waving the flag as Americans flail about stupidly.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:02 am |
    • coool

      Respect Human Beings!
      Since when Bin Laden(Terry Jones) shaved his beard and started talking in English?

      Absolutely right! Dove center understood Islam in the same way Al Qaeda did.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:07 am |
    • Ask Yourself

      Rev. Selim – Don't you think the same towards all the Imam's that advocate stoning women, and oppressing females in their society? Shall we bring up the beheading and see if they fit the definition of a church in the name of Islam?

      August 21, 2010 at 12:27 am |
    • Ask Yourself

      Rev. Selim

      It is sad to see that someone who promotes such acts can claim to be a church. The church which was founded by Christ Himself preaches love and peace towards all of God's creation. We condemn actions, not people! God alone is the judge. Anyone who preaches otherwise is only claiming to be a so called "church"

      --

      By your standards I fail to see how Islam or the Koran can be called a church. Please show me otherwise.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:29 am |
    • ADifferentShadeOfBlack

      By burning the quran, who do they think that they hurt most ? The billions of Muslims around the world ? The God that sent us the Quran ?! No.. They hurt themselves, in this life and in the hereafter. If it gives them piece of mind, they can burn the Torah, the bible, the quran, the last testament, the first testament and all the holy books in the world.
      As we sow , shall we reap.

      August 21, 2010 at 12:46 am |
    • SAL THE GERMAN

      Many of the 400 Muslims (in addition to the highjackers) who died in the Towers are considered Martrys in he ARAB world and those people each received significant monetary payoffs (MARTRYDOM PAY) from the leaders of various terrorist factions operating in predominanlty muslim countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Syria, UAE, and a host of other muslim brotherhood nations. These people who espouse to be Americans are constantly deriding US policy abroad and often march in protest of U.S. policies. If they feel so strongly about the events in their homeland, they should go back and offer a hand to help overthrow those governments. You won't see that though. These foreign national from the mideast who constantly throw their views in the mix do so to muddy the political waters in the U.S. They use the issues togarner empathy for thier cause so that they can work to divide and conquer American people. Just look at what the Mosque issue is doing. When's the last time ANY foreign national of Non-Muslim belief was even allowed to step foot in MECCA, or any other city deemed too holy for the INFIDELS!

      August 21, 2010 at 12:56 am |
    • nomoregbldguk

      @1guytalking

      no...they just quietly went about assassinating the Nazis and rounded up all thei associates and interlopers...see they made a distinction between Germans and Nazis...something this Church is adamantly refusing to do, for what purpose other than rousing enmity between people, must be a big ticket event...hear anything about the movie rights?

      August 21, 2010 at 1:26 am |
    • Hira

      The level of ignorance exhibited on these forms is truly amazing. The media decides to pick up on an incident that occurs 1% of the time and replays it to death and people buy it for holy truth ! Here is a FACT, no spin, in reply to the questions some have posed about churches in Muslim countries.

      Five of the biggest and best schools in Karachi, Pakistan are Catholic run schools. The schools are in robust financial condition as are the Churches and local diocese that support them. The schools are

      St.Patrick's High School (Supported by a church spanning a considerable breath of area in downtown Karachi)
      St.Joseph's High School for girls (Multiple Church Locations)
      Convent of Jesus and Mary (Alum)
      St.Paul's High School (Multiple Church Locations)
      St.Micheal's High School

      The schools are attended by Muslims who not only tolerate the churches and catholic system of teaching in their midst but genuinely cherish it.

      August 21, 2010 at 1:30 am |
    • david b

      Last time I checked we have freedom of and from religion. most morons in this country will encourage burning of the us flag, which offends me and most good people, but they get mad as hell when we burn a stupid terrorist tool like the Quran. Burn all you want!

      August 21, 2010 at 1:42 am |
    • notesham

      why do the same people who burn the US flags are the ones who are against burning the book? Why is it that building the ground zero mosque is a matter of freedom yet burning the book is not? Hyppocrites all!

      August 21, 2010 at 2:00 am |
    • Funkycherry

      You couldn't be more right. I completely agree with you.

      August 21, 2010 at 2:10 am |
    • peace2all

      @Funkycherry

      Just curious as there are quite a few postings..... Who exactly and what exactly are you in agreement with....?

      Peace....

      August 21, 2010 at 2:12 am |
    • sigmud

      Can I delete a downloaded copy of koran without hurting anyone's feelings?

      August 21, 2010 at 2:26 am |
    • M.Delroba

      I agree, Books today people next !

      August 21, 2010 at 2:54 am |
    • the jin.............. :}

      I THINK ISLAM SHOULD EMBRACE THE IDEA OF ALLOWING THE HEBREW TEMPLE TO BE REBUILT UPON THE WESTERN WAILING WALL NEXT TO THE DOME OF THE ROCK -TO PROVE TO THE WORLD -ISLAM IS NOT A HATE FULL VENGEFUL INTOLLERANT RELIGION -THAT GIVE FREEDOM TO OTHERS TO BELIEVE AS THEY WISH -TO ME IN PART THIS WOULD HELP THE DAMAGE DONE TO THE REPUTATION OF THERE RELIGION THERE PROPHET AND THERE HOLY BOOK -–THIS WOLD BE A TEST OF THE WESTERN WORLD – TO THE ISLAMIC WORD IN TOLLERANCE AND TRUTH BY ACT OF IT :} .....

      August 21, 2010 at 2:55 am |
    • the jin.............. :}

      FREEDOM OF RELIGION AND THE EXCERSIZE OF IT -SHOULD NEVER HINDER -EFFECT OR AFFLICT ANOTHER -AND ALL BELIEFS SHOULD BE RESPECTED -AS WITH FREEDOM OF SPEECH AS LONG AS IT DOES NOT INFLICT DAMAGE OR RESTRICT RIGHTS OR CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR OTHERS THERE SHOULD ALLWAYS BE A DIVISION OF CHURCH AND STATE -THERE SHOULD ALSO BE REQUIRED RESPONSIBILITY OF RIGHTS TO RESTRICT ABUSE OF THEM ...

      August 21, 2010 at 3:01 am |
    • JEB

      Stupid, stupid people. There is nothing like asking for trouble. No wonder so many in the world are out to get us. Stupid, stupid, stupid..........

      August 21, 2010 at 3:05 am |
    • the jin.............. :}

      I THINK ALL BOOKS SHOULD BE READ INDIVIDUALLY BY THE BURNERS BEFORE THERE BURNED -SO THAT PEOPLE SUFFEREING FROM THE BLINDNESS AND BIASNESS -OF LACK OF UNDERSTANDING WOULD KNOW AND UNDERSTAND WHY THERE BURNING THE BOOK .ME I BELIEVE IN THE BIBLE IVE READ IT AND FIND NO REASON WHY IT SHOULD BE BURNED -AS FOR THE KORAN – ITS NOT A HOLY BOOK TO ME – I USE IT FOR REFERANCE ONLY ON HOW TO UNDERSTAND WHY IDSLAMICS THINK THE WAY THEY DO .

      ISLAM IS A THEOCRACY -THERE FORE SHOULD ONLY BE A RELIGION – NOT A POLITICAL STAND –IT IS DEAD SET AGAINST INDEPENDANCE –FREE WILL – AND REPUBLIC OR DEMOCRATIC THINKING POLITICALLY . SO BOTH THE WESTERN WORLD AND ISLAM ARE IN CONFLICT POLITICALLY AND RELIGIOUSLY –IN THE END -ISLAM IS DEDICATED TO TAKE AWAY FREEDOM OF RELIGION -CHOICE -WILL -SPEECH -THATS THAT IS WHY SO MANY IN THE WESTERN CULTURE -DISPISE THE KORAN /QURAN – I DO NOT HATE ISLAMICS – – I MUST RESPECT THERE FREEDOM OF BELIEFS -BUT NOT TO A POINT OF WHERE I MUST GIVE UP MY OWN BELIEFS OR RIGHTS TO ACCOMIDATE THEM -I SHOULD NEVER BE FORCED TO ACCOMIDATE ANYONE -OR ANY OTHER BELIEFS -IT IS THERE RIGHT TO PRACTICE AND BELIEVE -AND MY RIGHT-TO DISBELIEVE .

      August 21, 2010 at 3:18 am |
    • Newsguy

      Ignorance is never a good thing. Shame on that church and its members. Very Un-American of them.

      August 21, 2010 at 3:27 am |
    • MICHAEL WHITE

      Regarding this planned event to burn the Koran, remember, this is America and that church has a right to do so under the Constitutions Freedom of Expression clause (1st amendment). It is no different from burning the U.S. flag. People have the right to do so. People may get offended, but that's just too bad. John Locke, a famous political philosopher, argued that people do not have a right to be free of being offended. He made this argument in favor of free speech and expression.

      August 21, 2010 at 3:37 am |
    • atheist

      what would american christians do without their booze, their NASCAR, their trailer parks and meth labs, and brown-skinned people to hate on?

      August 21, 2010 at 4:18 am |
    • peace2all

      @atheist

      Other than the biased stereotype of the american christian..... which of course most are not as you say..

      But, I gotta' say..... THAT was funny....! Made me laugh out loud...thanks...

      Peace.....

      August 21, 2010 at 4:24 am |
    • Forthesakeoflove

      The Quoran was the inspiration for 9/11 attacks, what is written in the Quoran made the perpetrators do what they did: the bloodiest, cruelest, deathliest and cowardest terrorist attack ever done in human history.

      August 21, 2010 at 6:12 am |
    • Jedi Falcon

      How do you start a New Thread here?

      August 21, 2010 at 6:36 am |
    • Boecken

      Quite frankly, the Trinity Methodist church and the other churches have done NOTHING in the past. The did not stand up against abortion, they did not join the protests again homosexuality and there buildings are empty throughout the week except for Sunday morning and Wednesday night. THAT is far off the bible,not the burning of the books (see Acts 19). Our humanism has deceived the church. At the most we talk about a fight between light and darkness, but we do not believe it and we do not fight it anymore.

      If now somebody like DWOC stands up and fights, everybody turns against them. Sure, the alternative would be to acknowledge that Jesus and the New Testament church confronted false religion all the time. The went through hardships up to jail and death sentence for their faith. We skip church for a family barbecue in these days! And we get in the back of those who confront a religion (which is more a totalitarian political system) leading billions of people to hell, because there is no salvation through the blood and resurrection of Jesus Christ the Son of God. Guess many of us Christian do not actually believe this core of the gospel any more either.

      August 21, 2010 at 7:44 am |
    • Abraham Lincoln

      Looks like my time machine malfunctioned and I wound up in 1939 Berlin.

      August 21, 2010 at 7:55 am |
    • Manny

      I wonder if these yocals bothered to read the Quaran, it is beautifully written and in many places mentions Jesus and Mary as well as it being quite similar to the Holy Bible and Torah. I would not want to have to expalin to God why I burned his word nor face his wrath for doing so. Thank you to the German who wrote in about this. Please know that this German is also disturbed by the fact that this is just what Hitler did too, we must never forget that lesson of history. My fellow Christians in Florida, take the high road and don't be mislead. Even if you may not like Islam, remember the diginity of Christianity, not the barabaric teachngs of fundamentalism...do no harm!

      August 21, 2010 at 7:55 am |
    • Horatio Caine

      I agree with you. The idea of burning a religious book, no matter what type of religious book, is utter heresy. Does no one even care anymore where these type of actions is going to lead this world. It sometimes makes me wish I was not a citizen of this country. People have taken the First Amendment to a whole new sick and depraved level. I ASSURE YOU, ANY ONE WHO PARTICIPATES IN THIS KORAN BURNING WILL BURN IN HELL THEMSELVES WHEN THEY LEAVE THIS EARTH. That is just something for those morons in Florida to think about.

      August 21, 2010 at 7:58 am |
    • StevieT

      I appreciate your sentiments butI do not think you do justice to the peaceful Jewish people that were victimized during WWII for no other reasn than their ethnic difference with a homogenized majority.
      The Muslims are not being singled out because of their ethnicity, it is because of the violence created in the name of their religion all over the world.
      You say that 400 muslims died in the WTC attack, I do not believe that number. Either way, it should not surprise any astute observer because they are mass slaughtering their own every day. Look at the suicide bombings from just the last week. Iraq, 61 Muslims slain by Muslims. China 12 Chinese slain by Urghar (Muslim) terrorists. Pakistan, dozens of Shiites murdered in their own mosque while praying to Allah.
      I find any book buning repulsive, but in the face of repeated Muslim atrocitries, I can see why it is happening. As repugnant as it may seem to be, perhaps a more mild protest could be easily overlooked.

      August 21, 2010 at 8:19 am |
    • Bill

      These people are not from a real church – just a tax shelter they created one night while sitting in their kitchen. This is their best time to promote their hate books, where a lot of bigots and hate mongers are being cultivated by certain political parties like the republican tea party. Strike it rich while it's hot.

      August 21, 2010 at 8:29 am |
    • noboat1

      People have a right to peacefully assemble and protest any way they want. I don't believe Islam to be the religion of peace that the politicians and "political correcties" say it is, I believe they want the world under one faith. With that said there are extremist christian organizations in our own country who want the same thing. So where does that leave people like me who aren't very religious and could care less? Probably not an easy question.

      To me organized religion is dangerous thought, all one has to do is watch the news and read between the lines to see that. Human Beings have been killing each other over faith since the beginning of recorded history. I personally don't care what anyone believes, but when the day comes that someone walks up to me and attempts to cram his or her faith or way of life down my throat; thats the day I stand up and fight back. Until then I think I'll just sit back and watch the Mulems, Jews, and Christians kill each other over what was written in a book back in 589 AD (I think). And I don't even have to buy a ticket.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:05 am |
    • Willyboy

      notesham: Burning any book is an insult to rationality. However, no one is really trying to say they have no *right* to burn this or any book. It's the message that most here are attacking. The message is "Islam is bad and has wronged our nation." The message is pure BS. Muslims have done no harm to our nation. Islam is just a religion, identical to Christianity. It has done no harm to our nation. Terrorists have attacked us and we are fighting terrorists around the world, but this has nothing to do with Islam. This is about extremists who distort and use religion to justify their hate and bigotry. Just like the ignorant bigots at Dove World Outreach Center – they too are distorting religion and using it to justify their willful ignorance about Islam and Muslims.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:11 am |
      • Alvin D

        @Willyboy

        You said, "Burning any book is an insult to rationality."

        In response, I say, "burning a book of lies will always be a rational act."

        August 21, 2010 at 11:54 am |
        • Alvin D

          I should qualify the above post by saying that there is a difference between fiction and non-fiction – and non-fiction is not supposed to be filled with fiction. That's when they are lies. Kind of like those made-up textbooks they were flinging at the kids down south...

          August 21, 2010 at 12:22 pm |
    • AdamG

      Rev. Selim....Islam is one of the first religions to un-oppress women. It gave women the right to own property, run their own business, be independent, divorce, and protect her. Don't take bits and pieces from the Quran and misinterpret it. The true implementation of the punishments you are talking about are there to deter others from engaging in illegal and immoral acts. In addition, they conditions for them to be applied are so difficult that they would rarely ever be imposed. Our own country's constitution has laws and rights strait out of the Quran. Our founding fathers were christian but were also tolerant and all had copies of the Quran in their own personal libraries. Why don't you first read the quran without any bias or expectations, and then talk with knowledge rather than ignorance and misinterpretation.

      August 21, 2010 at 9:15 am |
    • BADGUY

      Didn't a German writer say "Where they burn books, they eventurally will also burn people":?

      August 21, 2010 at 9:43 am |
    • mario

      If people can burn the flag in this country...I say we can burn the mexican falg and korans if we want to...don't give me that we are all kind hearted people because a bigot would say that! It isn't true! We have racist, homos, lesbians, liberal terrorists, an idot of a president and a stupid congress and they don't care what ayone says...they just do what they want to do in their agenda to bring this nation to it's knees. Moslem are no different...they want to run this country and have us comply with their stupid sharia laws...never will happen I promise you that. If the government supports building a mosque when the majority don't want it buiold...thenm I say burn the koran and say Mohommad was gay! They think that everyone else are beneath them...shoot all ragheads then! and burn more koran books! end of problem.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:03 am |
    • Mike

      This is a great idea – I love it. It'd be great if more people got involved with this grass-roots kind of attack on the worst religion on this planet. Islam is a total joke and its followers all-too-frequently become involved in terrorism. Far too often, in fact, for there NOT to be some correlation between this false religion and these horrific activities.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:08 am |
    • Mike

      Excellent answer. Descending to the level of the lowest common denominator is not what civilization is all about.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:08 am |
    • chas

      everyone loves free speech until it infringes on what they feel should be left alone. unfortunately what is left is that nothing is sacred. Anything and everything that anyone holds dear in their heart can be destroyed under this country's constitution. Be it a flag, or a book. Now if you'd like us to start trimming down the constitution, let the government know. They would just love to help you get rid of your rights.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:12 am |
    • Center yourself

      We should all remember that people quoting the Bible are quoting the KING JAMES BIBLE. Which means it was rewritten by monarchs. So you can believe all you want from the former King of England or you can open your eyes to the world and open a civil discourse instead of condemning Islam because of a book. All are fairy tales of morality...mostly good messages, but not literal people. Take it for the message, and before you condemn it...read it!

      August 21, 2010 at 10:16 am |
    • LRoy

      This fundamentalist "pastor" is boardering on being totally neurotic. He's SO paranoid of Islam, he would not even be able to sit and talk to a Muslim-ANY Muslim one on one. He's too paranoid.

      He can't see past the Islamic terrorists, can't see past the differences between Christianity (and I question how "main stream" this pastor is), and other religions.

      Anybody this scared, cannot be functioning properly. He really needs a reality check.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:24 am |
    • WITNESS

      This is what happens when people organize their spirituality into an organization. While some churches operate without incident, others become a hateful mob. Too much conflict comes from organized religion, which is nothing more than the spiritual version of corrupt politics. It is contrary to Christ's teachings.

      I am a New Yorker who experienced hell on earth that day, I lost several people and I truly resent these backwater hicks taking it upon themselves to speak for what I lived through that day, and the many days that have followed after.

      As a New Yorker, These Dove dopes do NOT speak for me.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:25 am |
    • jack h.

      this is america, there is no law against burning this evil book. MUSLIMS BURN BIBLES AND WHOLE CHURCHS ALL THE TIME. you should be ashamed that your people in germany are afraid to take a stand against islam. i live in tenneesse. if i had the time and the money i would gladly attend the koran burning. muslims need to know that america won't stand for any islamifacation of america. DEATH TO ISLAM, THE ENEMY OF THE CIVILIZED WORLD.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:36 am |
    • Wzrd1

      The latest in the never ending saga of this ostensible minister is that they will also burn the Talmud along with the Quron.
      So, apparently this fine Christian doesn't like Muslims OR Jews.
      I respectfully suggest the good Reverend burn any book he is wearing.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:39 am |
    • Mrs Histeria

      We need to have a good old fashioned 'Burn the Bible" day.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:42 am |
    • namssa

      so, 400 muslims died in the tower? where did you get this info? or did you just fabricate it for your story?

      August 21, 2010 at 10:49 am |
    • Wzrd1

      Jackh, please learn the FACTS, rather than parrot what others tell you.
      I spent nearly 5 years in the Persian Gulf region supporting our war effort.
      The State of Qatar sponsored a number of Christian churches and even one Roman Catholic church. They never burned a bible there, they still aren't now. Kuwait never burned my bible when I was there. Bahrain didn't burn my bible either.
      Iran has been known to, but they're weird anyway and any self respecting Muslim will say that what Iran does isn't proper Islam, it's a perversion of it generated by extremists in their government.
      I've been told here in these forums that I paid a "unbeliever" tax, nope. I was told I was a liar and no churches exist in Qatar and my bible was burned and that I was hiding the tax I paid. Nope.
      But, why trust me? I only served this nation with 27+ years of military service. Those who call me a liar only serve themselves.

      August 21, 2010 at 10:51 am |
    • Hugo del Aguila

      Violence...Do the American people understand history? Remember the crusades... Remember the inquisition.... Remember slavery...Remember that every war has been fought in the mane of Jesus, including WWII. Iraq, etc.
      Look within your self to understand violence.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:04 am |
    • jack h.

      WZRD1 TELL ME ABOUT HOW YOU BROUGHT YOUR BIBLE INTO SAUDI ARABIA AND HOW HAPPY THEY WERE TO SEE YOUR BIBLE? also, how many churchs or synaqouge are there in mecca or medina?

      August 21, 2010 at 11:24 am |
    • Wzrd1

      Well, Jack. Didn't go to Saudi. I was more forward deployed.
      As for Mecca, tell me first, how many mosques are in the Vatican City? How many are next door to Westminster Abbey?
      And more importantly, WHY would we wish to REQUIRE a sovereign nation to do whatever whim we wish? That overrides the very notion of a sovereign nation and actually endangers our own, as we would have to do what other nations wish.
      No, each nation is free to rule their nation as they see fit.
      But I will say this, the State of Qatar sponsored a number of Christian churches and even a Roman Catholic church. And they are of the same branch of Islam (denomination, essentially) as the Saudis are.

      August 21, 2010 at 11:37 am |
    • j

      All I can say is, Burn Baby Burn. Americans are the worst suckers in the world. We are slowly giving up our right to free speech and handing it over to our enemies and foreigners. They rely on the premise that we allow freedom of religion even to the detriment and dissolution of our own rights. Enough is enough. You want to burn a koran, bravo. Muslims are burning our constitution, so what the hell....

      August 21, 2010 at 11:43 am |
  20. (B)iraq Hussein Osama

    More free publicity for Islam!! Can't think of a cheaper and better way to introduce the religion of Islam to the hitherto insular christian world. Right wing propaganda. Surely, a gift from Allah.

    August 20, 2010 at 5:13 pm |
    • andy

      Burning another religions holy book in the name of Jesus Christ is a way to show Christian Love. Jesus said to love your neighbor as yourself. so I guess that means you need to burn your bible at the same time to show how mus you love him .

      August 20, 2010 at 10:23 pm |
      • jerry

        well said as cristians by burning their quaran in the name of religion is just the same as muslums killing people in the name of religion

        August 20, 2010 at 11:49 pm |
        • marcos

          burning a book is the same as murder? Wow, you must be a muslim.

          August 20, 2010 at 11:58 pm |
        • freewoman

          if adultery was a crime in this country like it is in irna.. there would not be hardly a singe woman alive...

          including ME...
          I do not want the holy crotch police in this country.. your god has no business in my private places and neither do you, unless you are invited....

          August 21, 2010 at 12:01 am |
        • Dee

          @freewoman...maybe the concern should be controlling your own crotch as opposed to the "crotch police". Whatever happened to virtue and tact? You sound proud to be an adulterer...but if you're Christian you can just repent and you're forgiven right? Sometimes I think we need the moral police;Americans are immoral, out of control and proudly posting it!

          August 21, 2010 at 1:03 am |
        • Kate

          Yeah, that really worked well for Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan, didn't it ...

          August 21, 2010 at 1:09 am |
        • Justina

          Saudi Arabia and Afghanistan were never that immoral...

          August 21, 2010 at 1:13 am |
        • Kate

          Probably because of their habit of shooting, hanging, stoning, or decapitating people they consider immoral. Has kind of a deterrent effect – although the condemned tends to skew towards women.

          If the US is that immoral by comparison and it offends people, then maybe it's not the Muslims who should be thinking of moving over there ... Considering all the FUD about Muslims trying to take over the world, it's ironic that people would consider making even one part of the US over into the very thing they claim to be scared of Muslims doing.

          We don't need Christian Sha'ria any more than we need Muslim Sha'ria.

          August 21, 2010 at 1:21 am |
        • freewoman

          I could not imagine living in a world that forced me to obey that nasty sharia garbage.

          Oh the shame of it. I would go but t naked before I would do that.
          Bring that c r a p to America and there will be pen is's lying all over the place.

          Tell me I have to submit to any man and watch the knife boys.... we will settle the issue right quick.

          August 21, 2010 at 1:30 am |
        • peace2all

          @freewoman

          I have been reading several of your posts.... Are you new to this blog...? I kinda' like your style. An equal opportunity religious basher....

          I too am an agnostic/atheist..... but I do attempt to bring a bit more peace in messages. Maybe it will help, maybe not.... but worth a try...

          Anyways, nice to meet ya'.....

          Peace to you.....

          August 21, 2010 at 2:09 am |
        • ICEMAN

          freewoman i think you wouldn't live long well long enough to cut one of them..lol as a matteer of fact don't bring a knife to a gun fight....... what you are talking about meght just might come true...nwo

          August 21, 2010 at 2:32 am |
        • Roger

          Among the points made, there is a lot of concern about the Christian God ordering and preforming mass killings.
          The truth about that as recorded in most Christian Bibles goes something like this...
          Gods motives for how God acted before God came to earth as the man called The
          Lord Jesus,
          and about Gods motives for how God acted after that, are explained by the disciples of Jesus in their writings.
          I have read the writings of one disciple called Paul, and the reasons he set forth were quite acceptable to me
          in light of the first fact i mentioned, that God does what God does for Gods final will to be accomplished.
          God never did anything thinking about it like one of God's human creations think, but with supernatural reasoning and motive.
          When God was in Jesus and teaching the world, He taught that everything He had done or ever would do
          was in the best interest of His sons and daughters, and that satans sons and daughters would always hate
          Him and His children. Jesus and His disciples taught that Gods killing of satans children over and over as He did before coming to earth as The Lord Jesus Christ, never brought a lasting peace, and was done to teach Gods children that they should never rely on the law and killing your enemy as a way to true peace. Ever since the first child of satan killed a child of God, they never stopped trying to kill them. Only the children of God were taught correctly by Jesus to stop killing anyone, satans children or Gods children. Only to love your enemy even if it meant letting satans children hate you and kill you. This is what the true believers of Jesus sermons lived out from that day to this. Since Jesus to now, over 100 million believers allowed satans children to kill them, just for disagreeing with their religions.

          ISAIAH 55:8
          For my thoughts [are] not your thoughts, neither [are] your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
          ISAIAH 55:9
          For [as] the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

          HEBREWS 8:7
          For if that first [covenant] had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
          HEBREWS 8:8
          For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
          HEBREWS 8:9
          Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
          HEBREWS 8:10
          For this [is] the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

          MATTHEW 13:38
          The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked [one];

          JOHN 8:44
          Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

          ACTS 13:8
          But Elymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation ) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith.
          ACTS 13:9
          Then Saul, (who also [is called] Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
          ACTS 13:10
          And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, [thou] child of the devil, [thou] enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?

          I JOHN 3:
          10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

          One more thing I believe…
          Since God can do what God wants to with God's own creation, and nobody has more power than God to stop God, nobody
          will ever succeed in making God look stupid when finally standing before God at the time of God's final judgement of that person.

          August 21, 2010 at 3:16 am |
        • peace2all

          @ Roger

          All of the bible verses.... and your last sentence about God.... is probably something near how Muslim's think too....

          Did ya' really need to post all of the christian bible stuff....? This article is about peace and getting along between 2 of the world's major religions( in terms of numbers).

          Peace...

          August 21, 2010 at 3:26 am |
        • ICEMAN

          i didn't see nothing from the book of Enoch. You know his book was in the bible?

          August 21, 2010 at 3:33 am |
        • freewoman

          its call beheading. changes people mind real quick... not the best way to perfect free thinking.

          good way to keep the myth magic alive an well in a insane society.

          August 21, 2010 at 1:41 am |
        • SonofMollyM

          Eventually we'll all have webcams every where 24/7,the they'll behave.........Or become exhibitionists

          August 21, 2010 at 1:11 am |
        • freewoman

          Dee I am an atheist.. just like you were when you were born and before the myth of you parents was programmed into your impressionable mind.
          I had some of that brain stripping mythic pushed on me, but got my self free of it by ready the bible. and realizing is was all bunk. By reading other myths and comparing them I saw the patterns of myth making and realized it was just all a joke.
          Then I found out it is really a joke from Joseph Atwill.and well its been a great life since.
          Never will see the bible as anything as what it was intended again.. a joke... a very very funny joke.
          And well as a Christina Dee you bible demands you kill me.... now I am afraid of those who would follow that commandment.. but We are both fortunate we live in a country that would be a crime. If we lived during the dark ages...of the time of Bloody Mary in England.. you no doubt would be cheering as I was burning at the stake for being a heretic.

          it all about time and place... where the myth rules and claims its victims..

          August 21, 2010 at 1:25 am |
        • msaprilr

          freewoman you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. And if you read any of the 66 books in the current Bible, you didn't understand any of it. How is King Solomon's love letter to his wife a joke? How is a book full of poetic songs a joke? How is the history of the judges a joke? How are Paul's letters to the early congregations a joke? The joke is that you actually think you can pass off your spoiled, arrogant, beholden-to-nobody BS as though it's some kind of expert commentary on the usefulness of the Bible. You sound like a two year old throwing a temper tantrum against her parents. Grow up.

          August 21, 2010 at 10:13 am |
        • vdiddy71

          The books of the bible are not a joke. However, they are stories of perception. And we all know perception is reality. I believe that the majority of the bible is accurate, however, you cannot think that the bible is totally accurate due to the fact that it was interpreted many times from its original writings. There are several versions of the bible in print now, which are all interpretations. And there are many hypocrisies within the bible. But that is to be assumed because of the many different interpretations. But also know that if some is interpreting something, they will be biased based on their beliefs.

          Just be openminded no matter what you choose to believe in. And if you are Christian, then you should remember Christ loved everyone.

          August 21, 2010 at 10:42 am |
        • Keith

          What hypocrisies? Name one.

          August 21, 2010 at 11:08 am |
        • Alvin D

          @vdiddy71

          Perception is not reality if you are religious. Faith has nothing to do with perception of reality. Duh.

          August 21, 2010 at 11:58 am |
        • freewoman

          is there such a thing as adultery for other species? why not? who invented the term adultery and why?
          why is a super natural sky daddy so interested in what humans do with their s e x organs and not animals?

          the truth is the males were the ones who had to know... they want to make sure only their offspring would inherit his wealth and power from them and not the milkman's kids. There goes that money thing again.. to keep the ladies in line and the womb closed to outsiders.. strict s e x rules were added to the myth books. the pen is was free to do as it pleases, but the womb was a place that was property, like the cows in the field. the one and only god of the house had ownership of the womb.
          The pagan goddess was killed because she did not follow that rule.

          August 21, 2010 at 4:20 am |
        • Phil

          Under that caveman system the men were bigger and stronger, so they got what they wanted – and killed anyone who stood in their way, including other men. Sounds like you want to go back to that system. Good luck with that.

          August 21, 2010 at 10:05 am |
        • freewoman

          the only thing that is murdered it the poor tree.. what a waste of a beautiful life.. how many trees are sacrificed to hold mythic BS... now thats a crime.

          August 21, 2010 at 12:03 am |
        • Ariel

          What a waste the plannet earth to feed a person like you, all this years and not a bit of common sense in you. waste, waste, waste.....................

          August 21, 2010 at 2:40 am |
        • ICEMAN

          who r u talking about

          August 21, 2010 at 2:51 am |
        • Wzrd1

          I'll not mention trees being turned into toilet paper.
          Oops, too late...

          August 21, 2010 at 12:40 pm |
        • Dee

          Not the same, but just as warped and illogical. Neither action solves a damn thing.

          August 21, 2010 at 12:57 am |
    • stephen

      Burning the books could be perceived as a form of free speech. If burning the flag is considered free speech, then why is not burning a book?

      August 20, 2010 at 10:26 pm |
    • AthensGuy

      stephen no one is questioning the legality of the act. rather, the morality of it.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:27 pm |
    • moondoggie

      Stephen: Just because you can do domething, does not mean you should. Book burning an infringment of free speech as well. It is trying to stop ideas.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:36 pm |
    • SuperMe

      wow guy...you're prejudice in like 10 ways in one post....you're like those book burners from decades ago...so backwards and wrong.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:36 pm |
    • ricky

      If you want to know why America is one of the most hated countries in the world right now here is a perfect example. We preach a religion that states God see's all people as equal and his likeness, yet those who so called follow God don't follow his words. Get a passport, see the world, you might learn something.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:46 pm |
      • Justina

        USA is hated because it is the only and last nation which really fights for human rights in the entire planet.

        August 21, 2010 at 12:21 am |
        • Taco Lady

          Only problem is we've been stubborn in fighting against our own civil rights issues.

          August 21, 2010 at 1:19 am |
        • Latinopwer

          USA is the last democratic nation and perhaps the most vulnerable after the eurabia has floated belly up trying to appease uknowwhooos!

          August 21, 2010 at 2:16 am |
    • ricky

      I am very curious about those of you that are preaching freedom of speech. Are you the same ones that threw rocks at us when we returned from Vietnam, are you the same ones that watched an american blow up Oklahoma city are you the same ones that recognize the KKK, you love to point at other countries but you live in one of the most bigot countries in the world.

      August 20, 2010 at 10:52 pm |
    • Patrick

      Christians, Muslims, Jews, you are all morons. To date, zero evidence in god. The same evidence exists for the tooth fairy, leprechauns and the flying spaghetti monster. Zero people. Wake up, its all a lie, a comfortable one, but still seek truth and knowledge, regardless of how good your holy book makes you feel, it isnt real. Until evidence is shown, there is no afterlife, no heaven, no hell, no Allah,nodda, zippo zilch. If you have evidence, please let me know, you would be the first. Oh and if it cant be used in a court of law, I could care less about your personal testimony and subjective stories that have zero repeatability. BTW god (no god to date) can restore the limbs of an amputee. Ask yourself why god cant manage that one.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:00 pm |
    • ricky

      Nimrod, you could not be more wrong. I am an american who lives in Dhaka Bangedesh and attends a christian church in a country that is over 90 percent muslim. No one deny's me attending my church. All of my employee's are muslim and now is Ramadan, they are fasting each day but still serve me my lunch, coffee and everything else during the day, they don't exercise their religion on me and respect me for what I believe. there are extremes in every religion including christians, yet most Americans that have never been outside the US believe that what one does all do. Would you like to be judge as being in the Klan, remember they claim to be Christians. There are many forms of all religions, and no two people should be judged the same. when I lived in El Salvador and they brought in the communist killed each day for display, 50 percent of them were Americans fighting for money, no honor, not a country, but good old money. The US trained them yet they fought for the communist aggression. Open your eyes the world is round and there are good and bad people everywhere, including Gainsville Florida which is where I was born.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:08 pm |
    • keep it 2 yourself

      more peaceful ways christian taliban deal with non believers. the christian taliban mullahs hath issued an edict of burning now go forth and burn or thalt shalt be burned too. aaaaaaaahhhhhmen

      August 20, 2010 at 11:34 pm |
    • DJ

      I'll make trips to the garage sales tomorrow and find me a Quran and burn it then put the video on iReport. You know, to sorta get this book burning off to a hot-dog start. It's my right as an American to do that.

      August 20, 2010 at 11:34 pm |
      • rafael

        It's your right as an American to shove your head up your a$z, which makes about as much sense as a way to combat terrorists. But feel free.

        August 20, 2010 at 11:38 pm |
      • Frank

        Aah, another one of those bigoted, stupid Americans that contribute to this country going down the tubes... Why don't you hail your stupidity even more publicly... haha

        August 21, 2010 at 8:33 am |
    • montu

      I am not a muslim or a christian and idiots like you make me feel glad i am not...

      August 20, 2010 at 11:45 pm |
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