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August 24th, 2010
09:22 PM ET

Pastor says armed militia to protect church during Quran-burning event

An armed Christian organization, Right Wing Extreme, will protect a church that is planning to host an "International Burn a Quran Day" on the ninth anniversary of September 11, the church's pastor said on Tuesday.

The Dove World Outreach Center, in Gainesville, Florida, says it is hosting the event to remember 9/11 victims and to take a stand against Islam. With promotions on its website and Facebook page, the nondenominational church invites Christians to burn the Muslim holy book.

Dove's Facebook page, set up for the September event, has nearly 6,000 fans. The initiative has also drawn critics.

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- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Books • Christianity • Florida • Islam • Muslim • Quran • United States

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  1. brad

    There are two strategies available for anti-religious people:
    1) When serious discussion begins, lampoon and ridicule religious faith to make it look silly. No thought or debating effort required for those who have quit thinking.
    2) Wait for some Christian or Muslim to fall on his face in hatred, greed, or sexual perversion. Again, no thought or effort required.

    I am a Catholic who is accused of not being Christian. But I've been noticing how easy we Christians make things for the religiophobe.

    August 25, 2010 at 2:23 pm |
  2. Amy J

    Those poor 9/11 Muslim victims and their Muslim families whose sacred texts are being burned in their honor.

    August 25, 2010 at 12:53 pm |
  3. Selfish Gene

    hows that shootin' protecty thing workin out for ya?

    August 25, 2010 at 12:18 pm |
  4. GSA

    @Kate
    I can totally see that, there is always money, greed or hatred behind these types of rallies and really no good will come of this. Again I just don't get it, the majority of Americans are such good people yet these types of people dominate the media. I get the need for ratings and the financial gain behind it but as a Canadian on the outside looking in I would think US citizens would want a better representation of themselves. I have so many friends in the US and none of them are scared like these "Quran burners" and none of them have these prejudices.

    August 25, 2010 at 11:03 am |
  5. GSA

    I love watching scared Americans on tv, haha! Everytime I see any news on with this Christian group that want to burn a Quran I make a warm bowl of popcorn and sit back and enjoy the pure stupidity that they spew. It's like watching an episode of the Three Stooges but they were way more intelligent. RUN, the big bad Muslims are coming to get you, save their souls so they can run to Jesus....or in this case some Christian willing to take their money and stick their c**k up their children backside, lol. USA USA USA USA! Greatest country on Earth right jim-bob?

    August 25, 2010 at 10:20 am |
    • Kate

      @GSA

      I read somewhere that the Jones' were asked to leave their little church outside Hamburg because of "financial irregularities" ... Oh yeah, I can so believe that they're rubbing their hands at donations they've got coming in now.

      New Cadillac on the horizon?

      August 25, 2010 at 10:23 am |
  6. Frogist

    So they are doing an obviously indecent act backed by an armed militia to protest that another religious group is indecent and violent? Boy will their faces be red when they see the irony! Just wondering what people would say if the center/mosque at wtc was defended by armed muslim militia... Right now all they are using to defend themselves is the const-itution and debate. So who are the indecent and violent ones?

    August 25, 2010 at 10:16 am |
  7. LuLu

    Boy, I sure am glad that I joined the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster yesterday.

    @Reality: Love your post...well said!!!

    August 25, 2010 at 8:00 am |
  8. tacoma

    Dude, I do not know who these people are but they do not represent Christ. As a Christian, one of the things I cannot stand are those who put on the mask of Christ to represent their own agenda. I am positive that Jesus is saddened by the actions that these people are choosing to take in his name but I do not believe he is surprised since there are many passages in the new testament that warn against false teachers. That's what these people are, false teachers.

    "And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love. But the greatest of these is love." 1 Corinthians 13:12

    August 25, 2010 at 2:33 am |
    • Sothen

      @tacoma

      So you represent "Christ"? Did he vote for you, too? Will you now make religious laws on his behalf?
      Better contact your const!tuents, you silly little truck.

      August 25, 2010 at 3:41 am |
    • brad

      I certainly agree. Religiophobes have an easy enough time finding something to lampoon and ridicule without Christians making it easier. Jesus most have anticipated what would happen when he intrusted his message to such ham-handed "believers".

      August 25, 2010 at 2:56 pm |
  9. Kate

    So an "outreach center" that supports and admires the same bunch that hates our troops so much is going to be guarded by a militia ... what, a bunch of skinheads? Hutaree rejects?

    Of course the might just be in it to provoke trouble the same way WBC does, and soon will announce how they had to "cancel" the event because of the "concerns of the authorities" and how it's just one more example of how "the Muslim Menace" is threatening their way of life by getting the government to shut them down and stop them exercising their 1st amendment rights too.

    Smoke and mirrors.

    August 25, 2010 at 12:09 am |
    • iac249

      It's kind of funny, to see these kind of people posting about how much Islam is such a hateful religion. I mean really, do these people see themselves and what they're doing and saying? Book burning? Copying/pasting phobic texts into the comments? It's like a mass hysteria has taken over.

      August 25, 2010 at 6:12 am |
  10. ozzie

    After they finish they will all retreat into the church for some all boy fun

    August 24, 2010 at 11:53 pm |
  11. Reality

    Actually, it is the Muslims that should burn their copies of the koran for the 1400 year old con job that is pulled on them daily by the imams and ayatollahs. Christians should burn their copies of the NT for the 2000 year old con job that has been perpetuated on them by popes, bishops, priests, ministers and evangelicals. And Jews should burn their copies of the OT/Torah for the 6000 year old con job pulled on them by their past and current rabbis.

    August 24, 2010 at 11:42 pm |
    • Mike

      "by popes, bishops, priests, ministers and evangelicals"
      Don't forget the fishermen, tax-collectors,and especially the people that die to bring us the good news of Jesus Christ.

      August 25, 2010 at 8:31 am |
    • Reality

      Mike,

      The best history can tell us is that Nero rounded up all the Christians including Paul and Peter in Rome and had them executed. There are no other historical details as to methods of execution.

      With respect to the tax collector: He is said to have died a natural death either in Ethiopia or in Macedonia. However, the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church each hold the tradition that Matthew died as a martyr.

      August 25, 2010 at 11:27 am |
    • Mike

      "There are no other historical details as to methods of execution" So your saying Peter was not crucified upside-down?

      August 25, 2010 at 12:46 pm |
    • Reality

      Mike,

      "There are no other historical details as to methods of execution" So your saying Peter was not crucified upside-down?

      Yes. See Professor JD Crossan's book, In Search of Paul, pages 400-402 for a review of the martyrdom of Paul and Peter. The upside down cross story is simply another legend analogous to the legend of the freeing of Paul from prison by an angel.

      August 26, 2010 at 9:20 am |
  12. serenity

    This is absolutely digusting. For 1 as an american converted Muslim of 3 months In no way is the way of a Christian to act. To burn a Qur'an is wrong. To burn any books of GOD is wrong. To react in this manner because a Mosque/Muslim Community Center is to be built not even on the same block of where Ground Zero does not show that you are better or that you are right, or that you even make sense. The people that did those evil acts to take over a plane does NOT represent the Muslim Community. Have you even thought or looked outside of your little box to realize that those same EXTREMIST are the same people that are terrorizing MUSLIMS in Afganistan...Pakistan or other places over sees NO!!! you have not cared to notice that WE Americans are not the only ones that are being terriorized by terriorist groups. Pakistan that has just been flooded and is still in need of help, majority of them are Muslim...and they were being terrorized by the taliban...Did you know that... this burning of a Holy Book is ignorant and it shows just how misguided you are... To even have your Church support this is wrong. Do you think this is something that "Jesus would do"? NO....The pastor of the church should be ashamed of themselves and should think really hard to have this followed through. Muslims are not the enemy... Bad people are and those bad people happen to be Muslim, but Muslims do not respresnt these Bad people... For all we know, they could have killed innocent Muslims in their acts as well. but you are so close minded to even think that maybe a muslim family is in mourning as well but how would you know. you are too busy judging and doing evils of your own... You call this justice... how about learning peace, forgiveness, how about talk to a Muslim and see how they feel....

    August 24, 2010 at 11:32 pm |
  13. Saira

    the invasion of iraq and afganisthan was self interest of U.S. not to protect them, if that was the case then why did american military rape a teenage Iraqi girl and other women..also the mass destructions of the IRAQ are done by the invasion... there ares o many documentaries made my Americans themselves.. yet no one to look after these muslim countries.. if MUSLIMS wanted they could have birned the BIBLe at the mosque but they didnt.. and PLEASE DO NOT COMPARE TRUE MUSLIMS with non Islamic ideology of violence.. if you do.. where in Christanityd oes it say to take revenge ... ? STOP PASTOR– IF YOU DEFINE the u.s. as a DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY!!!that PROTECTS EVERYONEs rights!!!

    August 24, 2010 at 11:21 pm |
  14. Gopherit

    Well now, there ought to be a reciprocal Burning of the Bibles at a mosque to commemorate the deaths of the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans who have died as a consequence of the U.S. invasions, urged by so-called "Christian Conservatives."

    August 24, 2010 at 11:07 pm |
    • iac249

      No, it shouldn't be return one bad with another. I hope American Muslims take the higher road.

      August 25, 2010 at 6:13 am |
  15. Saira

    I am protesting ... No 1 has the right to brurn the Quran.. QUran just not teach any rivalry ,no religion tecahes that please we as muslims request the president and mayors and all government to take authoririties to stop this.

    August 24, 2010 at 11:07 pm |
    • zingye

      @Saira

      We have more of the freedoms here in USA than you do in your head.

      August 25, 2010 at 2:31 am |
    • Cooks

      Distasteful as this event may be, they do have to right to do it. They don't, however, have much of a right at all to call themselves Christians, and I'd be ashamed to call them my brothers and sisters after this.

      August 25, 2010 at 4:20 am |
    • ta

      @Cooks

      a hissing shame upon ye, ye bludy spalpeen!

      August 25, 2010 at 4:32 am |
    • Kate

      @Saira

      They have the right to do it, in the US – but the whole idea behind first amendment protections is to promote the free exchange of ideas, and to foster debate. This has done that – and at the same time it allows the world to see virulent hatred and those who preach it.

      Which is better, hate that festers in the shadows hidden from sight, or those who promote it being seen in the full light of day for what they are? If they weren't so "in your face" about this, would anyone have known about this new bunch of radical nationalists masquerading as christians, would we have had to wait until they follow in the footsteps of the Hutaree or AQ and planned mass murder?

      August 25, 2010 at 10:20 am |
  16. Jessie

    Hopefully both sides will annihilate each other so the Scientologists can take over.

    August 24, 2010 at 10:40 pm |
    • Nonimus

      lol! Unfortunately this is way to passive a strategy for them.

      August 25, 2010 at 9:39 am |
    • Chuck

      Sir Richard Dawkins, Bill Maher, & Christopher Hitchens must be somewhere smugly amused by all of this. If it weren't SO sad it would be laughable.

      August 25, 2010 at 12:37 pm |
  17. Iqbal Khan

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edmyCHwPabs

    August 24, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
    • Mike

      At 1:34 he makes an incorrect statement that the traveling men did not hear the voice
      Acts 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man

      At 1:58 he states Paul had a vision
      No Ananias had the vision not Paul, Paul had the experience that made him blind Acts 9:10

      Around 2:40 he makes the statement that Paul only saw Christ once
      This is not true Acts 9:16,22, 2 Corinthians 12:2, and the rest of the letters where Paul says he dies daily to grow in Christ.

      Around 4:10 he states that the epistles were written before the gospels
      This is not the case for Matthew and Mark which were believed acroos the board by all types of historians to be about 30-40AD
      Acts was written as the epistles where being written the Historian Luke keeping a journal as the early churched developed.

      4:50 Absured, Matthew mark and john walked with Jesus for 3 years. Think of all the people you have known for 3 years would they say you were perfect but John tells us I walked with Jesus and He was without sin

      August 25, 2010 at 8:28 am |
    • Reality

      Mike,

      As per most contemporary NT exegetes, the apostles, Matthew and John were not the authors of the Gospels. The authors just happened to have the same names and were not eye-witnesses to Jesus' life. And there never was an apostle named Mark. See Father Raymond Brown's 878 page book, An Introduction of the New Testament, for an exhaustive review of all the elements of the NT.

      August 25, 2010 at 10:53 am |
    • Mike

      Reality, where do you come up with this stuff?
      Most NT biblical scholars do agree without a doubt that Matthew was the author. Whether he was the scribe is a different issue. It is commonly understood that Luke when creating his account for Theophilus used most of Matthews account.
      Way to avoid the issue of this video misquoting acts.

      August 25, 2010 at 12:32 pm |
    • Reality

      Mike,

      "Many scholars today believe that "canonical Matt was originally written in Greek by a non-eyewitness whose name is unknown to us and who depended on sources like Mark and Q".- Google it

      For a contemporary review of the Acts of the Apostles, see for example the studies of Professor JD Crossan.

      It is generally believed that the author of Acts did not have access to a collection of Paul's letters. One piece of evidence suggesting this is that, although half of Acts centers on Paul, Acts never directly quotes from the Pauline epistles nor does it even mention Paul writing letters. Discrepancies between the Pauline epistles and Acts further supports the conclusion that the author of Acts did not have access to those epistles when composing Acts.

      Other theories about Acts' sources are more controversial. Some historians believe that Acts borrows phraseology and plot elements from Euripides' play The Bacchae.[4] Some feel that the text of Acts shows evidence of having used the Jewish historian Josephus as a source (in which case it would have to have been written sometime after 94 AD).[5] For example, R. I. Pervo dates Acts to the first quarter of the second century[6].

      And of course any book that involves angels (pretty, wingie, thingies) is immediately thrown on the very suspect-history pile.

      August 27, 2010 at 12:41 am |
  18. iceman6161

    YEA SPERAD HATE AND SAY OUR LORD IS THE BADDEST .OH WE NEED MEN TO SAVE US......

    August 24, 2010 at 9:51 pm |
  19. iceman6161

    It's not free the only thing you hate to give them in return is your love for hate

    August 24, 2010 at 9:49 pm |
  20. Usama Ata

    Here is a link for free qurans to burn. Just do a search for free korans and there are a few sites that give these to kafur ONLY. The rich suadi family will send you one at no cost. It takes a couple weeks to get your leather bound qoran. I got mine just in time.
    .
    http://www.explorethequran.com/request-a-quran.html

    August 24, 2010 at 9:41 pm |
    • tbt

      just in time for what? for the burning, what kind of sick person are you. there is never any good reason to burn any book, especially a religious text, all that kind of behavior is doing is opening a door for more violence, its like asking for sept. 11th all over again. what, do you seriously not think that Muslim extremist are not going to retaliate. this whole idea about burning the Quran is just childish, all it is is asking for trouble. think about it, what if the shoe was on the other foot. and Muslims were burning bibles, would the church retaliate? and on top of it all not all Muslims are bad people, just because a group of extremist are fighting this Western power dose not mean we have any right to punish a whole religion. and No i am not Muslim, i am a realist and this whole fiasco is just silly, please for the love of God stop and think about the implications of actions, i don't want any more un-necessary violence to insue, do you?

      August 25, 2010 at 12:18 pm |
    • Joseph Fassett

      So what happens when a few Muslim extremist get angry because of this foolishness? This isn't just a little prank, sir. This is a very serious religious offense to a great people and faith. But I can promise you that as soon as someone has something bad to say (or do) because of this, the good Christians at this "church" will be all in favor of freedom of speech and religion. Let's pray that Muslim Americans are more tolerant than this... For all our sake.

      August 26, 2010 at 3:06 am |
    • May_Allah_Guide_You

      This activity will provoke every muslim to react strongly. you do not have any right to burn any religious scripture.

      I think by doing this you are calling destruction. Your ignorance will have impacts on others.

      I think the local government should take measures to stop this event to prevail peace across nation.

      September 1, 2010 at 6:07 am |
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