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August 25th, 2010
09:35 AM ET

Some family members of 9/11 victims to support mosque construction

Some family members of 9/11 victims will rally Wednesday in support of a controversial mosque and Islamic center that is scheduled to be built near New York City's ground zero.

Their group, called September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows, will also be joined by at least 40 religious and civic organizations, and is expected to announce the creation of a coalition called New York Neighbors for American Values. The coalition's goals include support of "religious freedom and diversity" and the rejection of "crude stereotypes meant to frighten and divide us."

The rally is scheduled to be outside a municipal building in Manhattan.

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- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: 'Ground zero mosque' • Houses of worship • Islam • Mosque • New York • United States

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  2. religion.blogs.cnn.com

    Some family members of 911 victims to support mosque construction.. Slap-up 🙂

    April 18, 2011 at 6:20 am |
  3. paul A

    There is so much bigotery in this society today. But then, I should be surprised. This is our history. Many muslims and people of other religions, other than Christians died in the WTC building, and many of these same people helped in the recovery of bodies from the building, and yet these idiots are parading themselves in front of the proposed site of this "COMMUNITY CENTER" which is open to everyone to come and interact with others and enjoy the facility. This is the same paranoia which sent us to bomb Iraq on the false assumptions that they had weapons of mass destruction, and as a result, so many of our brave young men and women died or was injuried, some very seriously because some old stupid politicians with motives only known to them lied to us and we as gullible as we are, believed it. Wake up people!

    September 9, 2010 at 11:12 am |
  4. sheryl

    Muslims aren't outspoken people. Just like you'll never see many on your doorstep trying to convert you to their religion, you probably won't see many speaking publically about their disapointment of 911 being tied to their religion. When I talk to muslims they dont seem to aknowledge the extremists as true muslims. Regardless in this country we expect people to speak their minds loudly. Its too bad that people don't take the time to educate themselves in other peoples intrests especally before they speak out against it. Maybe we all need to visit a mosque or two.

    September 9, 2010 at 2:25 am |
  5. Steve

    I support the mosque/community center near ground zero under the condition that the muslims who want to build it there make a very clear statement demonstrating their sensitivity to the 9/11 victims. Any group of people that propose an activity in the name of religion should by definition be sensitive to the needs of others. That is what religion is about. So, therefore, I would expect the Imam and others that are pushing this construction, to make it very clear to the 9/11 victims, and to the entire world, WHY they want to build it. Of course, they want to build it as a show of unity between muslims and americans of all other faiths. They want to build it so they can show the world that they support the American way of life. They want to build it and provide a memorial inside the community center showing respect for the people of 9/11 that died, and those that helped to put back the pieces after 9/11. To show the whole world what islam is all about – peace, unity, support, sensitivity, sharing, love, respect. So..... I would expect them to make a memorial inside the building, and to inscribe on the outside of the building a statement to this effect that muslims in America and all around the world do not support hatred, do not support terrorism, and in fact are grateful for the land where they have freedom – America! Why have I not heard a suggestion like this from the Imam? It makes me wonder. And why doesn't any of the "officials" involved with this decision propose this as a solution? Any answers out there??

    September 5, 2010 at 10:30 pm |
  6. Rita

    Apparently this mosque is going to be a great place to get lettuce cause I heard that they are going to be teaching muslims how to cut fresh head inside.

    August 26, 2010 at 1:51 pm |
    • man

      that wasn't funny at all; just absolutely ridiculous.

      August 26, 2010 at 7:31 pm |
    • Mohammad

      You are a racist. Low life how and full of hate. You should read your bible before writing these ugly words like your ugly face.

      March 14, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
  7. Dee

    I am for the support of the Mosque this sort of rhetoric has an effect on our National Security and fighting in the Muslim World.
    We need to tone this stuff down and support our troops this is something that our elected officials have forgotten they are only looking out for themselves in the next election. Common sense has gone out of the door religion is a freedom that all have in the United Statest of America.

    The rest of the World is again skeptical of us just as the President tried to bring us closer together.

    August 25, 2010 at 9:17 pm |
    • Mark from Middle River

      This president just like many before and after him will not have as a goal of bring folks together unless it is under their administration.

      Obama idea of this country coming together is all of us following his goals and squashing any views not of his own. If you had opinion that did not go in line with his he would continue to look at you and question if you were going to ever let sound come out of your mouth.

      Sorry kid but most of us are not the republicans in congress who have been told that they do not have a voice. It's the growing voice of this country saying that you are cool mr president but on many things you are wrong.

      August 25, 2010 at 10:25 pm |
  8. Ali Sina

    As long as Islam is classified as a religion, it cannot be banned. Banning a religion goes against the First Amendment.
    Islam is also a religion, but unlike other religions it is multi dimensional. All other religions have one dimension or at least one main dimension. It is the vertical line that unites man with God.
    Islam has a width and a depth that are absent in other religions. They are its social and political dimensions.
    The social and political dimensions of Islam are defined by the Sharia law. Its social dimension regulates every aspect of human relations, e.g. the relationship between husband and wife. Under the Islamic social law, a husband has the right to beat his wife if he fears she is being uppity. He can divorce her at will and in absentia. To him belong the children. He can marry as many women as he pleased. The four wives limitation is a misunderstanding of the Quranic verse, or perhaps a well intentioned effort of Muslims to put a limit to the number of wives.
    The Shaira law does not apply only to Muslims, but also it regulates the rights of the non-Muslims. The non-Muslims in Muslim majority countries must be reduced into dhimmis, subdued and humiliated and they should pay a penalty tax to the Muslim state, as high as 50% of their income.
    Under the Sharia, women’s rights are half of the rights of men. They are deemed to be deficient in intelligence and their testimony in court is worth half of that of men.
    Under the Sharia, homosexuals must be killed; adulterers must be stoned to death, even if they are victims of rape. If a raped woman can’t bring four males witnesses to testifying that they saw the rape happening, her testimony against her assailant is not admissible in the court. However, if she gets pregnant as the result of the rape, her pregnancy can be used as evidence that she has had sex out of wedlock and according to the Sharia she should be stoned.
    The political dimension of Islam is its most important dimension. Without it Islam ceases to exist. The foremost objective of Islam is not religious, but political. The goal is to “reclaim” the earth and on it establish Allah’s domain. The means to do that, according to the teachings of the Quran and the examples set by Muhammad, are through raid and terror. The objective of Islam is not to convert everyone, but to make the Sharia law dominant. Even Islamic countries that are not Sharia compliant are legitimate targets of islamic terrorism.
    Under the Sharia, people of Book can still keep their faiths and practice their religion, as long as it is done privately and they don’t make a show of it. They are of course not allowed to preach their faith to others, except to their own children.
    A Muslim is not just a believer, but also a member of the umma and a subject of the universal Islamic state. Consequently, leaving Islam is regarded as betrayal to the state and a high treason. Apostates should therefore be put to death.
    Under these three dimensions noting is left to the individual. Every aspect of the life of a believer is regulated by the Sharia law. The Sharia determines what he should eat and drink and what he should not. When is he allowed to eat and when he is not. What should he wear and what he should not. How should he shave, bathe, brush his teeth, clean his private parts after answering the call of nature, with what foot to enter the toilet, what to say upon entering the toilet and on which fool to put most of his weight while defecating.
    As Muslims will tell you, Islam is not a religion. It is a way of life. It is a totalitarian system that dominates every aspect of one’s life. Even the believers’ thoughts are not theirs. The control is absolute.
    These three dimensions are indivisible. They are the trinity of Islam. Islam cannot exist without either one of them.
    This knowledge is important. The Chinese sage Sun Zi said, know your enemy and you will not be defeated. And here is the problem. Muslims know us and they use our system to penetrate into our countries and to defeat us from within. NABIC, CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, and a host of other Islamic organizations are not the only fronts of Islam. Many politicians, many academicians and I dare to say, many rabbis and priests receive favors from Muslims and viciously fight for their interests. They are not just useful idiots, but well paid traitors.
    Muslims have been planning and working relentlessly for decades to penetrate America and to destroy it from within. Today they have their man in the White House. The American Commander in Chief is a traitor in Chief. Obama came to power with the support of Islamists and his job is to open the gates of America to the enemy.
    As you see Muslims know us. They know our laws and they know how to use them against us. That is why they are advancing. The Westerns on the other hand don’t know Islam and as the result they are losing the battle. To win this war they need to know their enemy.
    If Americans understand the “trinity” of Islam, i.e. its religious, social and political dimensions as indivisible facets of one single entity, it will be easy to defeat it.
    We cannot ban Islam as a religion, but we can ban it as a political system. As a political system Islam is incongruent with our democracy and our laws.
    While Muslims use the First Amendment to advance their own propaganda, they riot and kill innocent people if someone draws a cartoon of Muhammad. They want to kill him if he speaks against Islam. So they are in violation of the First Amendment. Islam does not recognize the equality of all men before the law. And it does not recognize the equal rights of men and women. On these grounds Islam is in violation of our laws and as such it can be denounced and banned.
    Muslims should be asked to repudiate the parts of the Sharia and the Quran that are explicitly in violation to American constitution and Bill of Rights.
    Billy Rojas, from Portland OR, has launched a brilliant initiative. He has written a declaration and is inviting Muslims to:
    Repudiate any verses or interpretations of the Qur’an that oppose the American values
    Sign the Freedom Pledge promising Muslims who seek to change their religion the same rights guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution
    Demand that Muslim nations to grant other religions the same freedom to build houses of worship that American grants them
    Postpone, relocate, or reconfigure their plans for an Islamic center within a mile of Ground Zero

    These are legitimate demands. You can’t be loyal to America if you don’t agree with these principles. Nonetheless, Muslims will find it difficult to sign this declaration. That is because their allegiance is to Islam and not to America.
    This is how they will be exposed as the enemies of America and can be expelled under our laws. Those Muslims, who are willing to repudiate the inhumane laws of Islam and join the rest of humanity as brothers and sisters, will be received as such. We have no enmity with Muslims as fellow humans. But at the same time we must not tolerate their evil belief that calls for our subjugation and death.
    I urge all Americans to sign the Ground Zero Declaration. If millions of Americans sign this declaration, those patriotic servants of the people serving in the congress and senate will have plenty of ammunition to champion this initiative and put an end to Islam in America for good.
    This is by far the most effective way to combat Islam and ban it legally. This strategy is so powerful that no Islamic organization and no Islamic nation can oppose it. Anyone who does so is demonstrating his enmity to human rights to women right and to the cherished values of civilized world.
    Islam advances through deceptions. This is how to expose those deceptions.
    This declaration is by far the most powerful weapon we have in our fight against Islam. Please go here, read it and sign it, if you are an American.

    groundzerodeclaration dot org

    Those of us who are not Americans should create our own declaration.

    August 25, 2010 at 4:51 pm |
  9. Kaddafi_Delenda_Est

    Shame on Mayor Bloomberg (and his toady apologists) for slandering 9/11 widows and orphans who oppose Cordoba House as "un-American."

    "Thou hast seen it; for thou beholdest mischief and spite, to requite it with thy hand: the poor committeth himself unto thee; thou art the helper of the fatherless."
    [Psalm 10:14]

    August 25, 2010 at 4:20 pm |
  10. Cori

    What would the Amish do?

    August 25, 2010 at 3:15 pm |
    • Luke

      Build it with archaic tools?

      August 25, 2010 at 3:23 pm |
  11. Nvr4Get

    September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows are only a handful of family members and are 911 Truthers who blame Dick Cheney for the attacks not al Qaeda!

    August 25, 2010 at 2:38 pm |
    • Asher

      What about the other 31% of America that supports this mosque? Is anyone that disagrees with you a "truther"? That is no better than calling everyone that opposes it a racist.

      August 25, 2010 at 2:47 pm |
    • Reader

      Many, many, many Americans also blame the Bush Administration for what happened on 9/11/01 - wake up.

      Osama - from his cave - stood-down the US military from defending the Pentagon a full hour after NYC was hit - right? Oh, it was all a mistake, right? Give me a break. Osama sure wanted to kill Americans, and the hijackers did also, but in the end, it's unlikely they alone over-powered and out-maneuvered the $multi-billion full defenses of the US military. And in the end, who benefited? Not Osama. The massive industrial-defense-industry-machine of the US which now has control of an entire country in the Middle East. Sounds like a plan.

      August 25, 2010 at 3:37 pm |
  12. Rock Science

    To proclaim Right exists in the name of Religious Freedom is in serious error when the essence of Religion is about Freedom. How can there be a Religion who imprisons others for a different religious belief if they are found with a Bible or a crucifix when they enter a Religion State of Islamic faith.

    To claim Freedom of Religion while denying the same to others of other religions is incompatible with the concept of Religious Freedom.

    You can't claim Freedom of Religion while imprisoning others and denying their Religious Freedom.

    Freedom and imprisonment are incompatible mates with irreconcilable differences!

    August 25, 2010 at 1:16 pm |
    • heno

      Rock Science,
      Try graphing out your argument before putting it into words. I learned that back in middle school. It will keep you from sounding insane.

      August 25, 2010 at 2:14 pm |
    • Asher

      American Muslims are not terrorists or hostile foreign regimes, they are Americans. This mosque is for Americans, not for terrorists.

      So what if Saudi Arabia or Iran doesn't allow Christians to practice? We aren't Saudi Arabia, and we don't want to be like them. We have freedom here, and oppressing Muslims in America would bring us down to their level.

      August 25, 2010 at 2:45 pm |
    • Rock Science

      To Asher: did the Trojan Horse represent a desire for peace, or a desire to conquer, and how do you tell the difference before hand, except to know a tree by its fruit.

      I don't recall hearing any outcry among the Islamic community to decry the acts that occurred on 9/11, and I listened with hope, but there was silence. Instead the voices of Islam were saying the US received what it deserved, and it was justified. Did I miss anything?

      August 26, 2010 at 10:11 pm |
    • Rock Science

      To Heno: you seem to have understood what was written, maybe you could Graph out the language better than was managed.

      August 26, 2010 at 10:15 pm |
  13. Matt

    I'm an American. I think the Islamic center is good idea. I think [user Reality] should look into domestic terrorism in the United States, if you look in your local newspaper or any major city like Chicago or L.A. what do you see? 2 people died from a shooting here, 1 person found dead, and so on. Who are these victims being killed by? American terrorists...and what are their religious backgrounds? It's not Islam, it's Christianity, Catholicism etc. It's domestic terrorism, time to wake up.

    August 25, 2010 at 12:17 pm |
    • Reality

      Matt,

      A short list of our activity in the War on Terror here and abroad:

      Operation Iraqi Freedom- The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,481 and 924 died in non-combat, 97,172 – 106,047 Iraqi civilians killed as of 8/10/2010 mostly due to suicide bombers.

      – Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops 1,116 killed in action, 902 killed in non-combat situations as of 08/10/2010. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed to date due to the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban acts of horror,

      – Sa-dd-am, his sons and major he-nchmen have been deleted. Sa-dd-am's bravado about WMD was one of his major mistakes. Kuwait was saved.

      – Iran is being been contained. (beside containing the Sunni-Shiite civil war in Baghdad, that is the main reason we are in Iraq. And yes, essential oil continues to flow from the region.)

      – Libya has become almost civil. Recently Libya agreed to pay $1.5 billion to the victims of their terrorist activities. Apparently this new reality from an Islamic country has upset OBL and his “cra-zies” as they have thre-atened Libya. OBL sure is a di-sgrace to the world especially the Moslem world!!! Or is he???

      – North Korea is still u-ncivil but is contained.

      – Northern Ireland is finally at peace.

      – The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords. Unfortunately the Annapolis Peace Conference was not successful. And unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “squ-are one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!

      – Bin La-d-en has been cornered under a rock in Western Pakistan since 9/11.

      – Fa-na–tical Islam has basically been contained to the Middle East but a wall between India and Pakistan would be a plus for world peace. Ditto for a wall between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

      – Timothy McVeigh was exe-cuted. Terry Nichols will follow soon.

      – Eric Ru-dolph is spending three life terms in pri-son with no par-ole.

      – Jim Jones, David Koresh, Kaczynski, the "nuns" from Rwanda, and the KKK were all dealt with and either eliminated themselves or are being punished.

      – Islamic Sudan, Dar-fur and So-malia are still terror hot spots.

      – The terror and tor-ture of Muslims in Bosnia, Kosovo and Kuwait were ended by the proper application of the military forces of the USA and her freedom-loving friends. Ra-dovan Karadzic was finally captured on 7/23/08 and is charged with genocide, crimes against humanity and violations of the law of war – charges related to the 1992-1995 civil war that followed Bosnia-Herzegovina's secession from Yugoslavia.

      – And of course the ody terror brought about the Ja-panese, Na-zis and Co-mmunists was with great difficulty eliminated by the good guys.

      August 26, 2010 at 9:06 am |
  14. Frogist

    I wish I could be there today. I want to stand with others in peaceful support of our religious freedoms. I hope the supporters of the center will be respectful and dignified. Cheers Mr Bloomberg. You are the only one with balls enough to say it straight.

    August 25, 2010 at 10:50 am |
  15. Reality

    Peaceful Tomorrows? How does that work in regards to the following recent history of koranic-driven, mosque-planned, Islamic horror and terror?

    1a) 179 killed in Mumbai/Bombay, 290 injured

    1b) Assassination of Benazir Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh

    2) 9/11, 3000 mostly US citizens, 1000’s injured

    3) The 24/7 Sunni-Shiite centuries-old blood feud currently being carried out in Iraq, US Troops killed in action, 3,481 and 924 died in non-combat, 97,172 – 106,047 Iraqi civilians killed as of 8/10/2010.

    4) Kenya- In Nairobi, about 212 people were killed and an estimated 4000 injured; in Dar es Salaam, the attack killed at least 11 and wounded 85.[2]

    5) Bali-in 2002-killing 202 people, 164 of whom were foreign nationals, and 38 Indonesian citizens. A further 209 people were injured.

    6) Bali in 2005- Twenty people were killed, and 129 people were injured by three bombers who killed themselves in the attacks.

    7) Spain in 2004- killing 191 people and wounding 2,050.

    8. UK in 2005- The bombings killed 52 commuters and the four radical Islamic suicide bombers, injured 700.

    9) The execution of an eloping couple in Afghanistan on 04/15/2009 by the Taliban.

    10) Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan: US troops 1,116 killed in action, 902 killed in non-combat situations as of 08/10/2010. Over 40,000 Afghan civilians killed due the dark-age, koranic-driven Taliban.

    11) The killing of 13 citizen soldiers at Ft. Hood by a follower of the koran.

    12) 38 Russian citizens killed on March 29, 2010 by Muslim women suicide bombers.

    13) The May 28, 2010 attack on a Islamic religious minority in Pakistan, which have left 98 dead,

    14) Lockerbie is known internationally as the site where, on 21 December 1988, the wreckage of Pan Am Flight 103 crashed as a result of a terrorist bomb. In the United Kingdom the event is referred to as the Lockerbie disaster, the Lockerbie bombing, or simply Lockerbie. Eleven townspeople were killed in Sherwood Crescent, where the plane's wings and fuel tanks plummeted in a fiery explosion, destroying several houses and leaving a huge crater, with debris causing damage to a number of buildings nearby. The 270 fatalities (259 on the plane, 11 in Lockerbie) were citizens of 21 nations.

    15) Followed by the daily suicide and/or roadside and/or mosque bombings every day in the koranic-terror world of Islam.

    August 25, 2010 at 10:38 am |
    • Abby

      Terrorists are the enemy, not the Muslim religion. If terrorists were truly followers of the Koran, they would not hurt others. Not all terrorists are Muslim or Islamic. People have been using religion as an excuse to kill others for their own selfish reasons since the beginning of civilization. America was founded so that you could have the freedom to practice whatever religion you wish without government interference. To say that an Islamic center shouldn't be built anywhere, regardless of the location, is bigotry and discrimination and against the 1st amendment of our country!

      August 25, 2010 at 12:22 pm |
    • Asher

      ...and what does any of this have to do with peaceful Americans wanting to practice their religion? Couldn't one just as easily list all the casualties to "Christian" armies and say the same? Making this a religious war is the worst possible thing we can do, and gives Bin Laden more success than he could every dream of.

      August 25, 2010 at 2:50 pm |
    • Kaddafi_Delenda_Est

      Bloomberg has apparently been in a coma (both before and after 9/11) since he appears to think 9/11 was the only incident of Muslims attacking non-Muslims. If he wasn’t in a coma, there’s no excuse for such gross stupidity.

      Muslims must take some responsibility for their global jihad when thousands of their co-religionists over the past two decades kill thousands of innocents of every religion around the world; and when they deprive non-Muslims of their human rights in 57 of 57 Muslim governed countries.

      Look. American Muslims may be the very soul of moderation. But I don’t think it’s unreasonable for folks to ask for more from (allegedly) “peaceful” Muslims than disingenuous whitewashing of uncomfortable elements of Islamic sharia tradition, as practiced in Iran, Gaza, Kashmir, Malaysia, the Paris banlieue... and (pointedly) Cordoba House in NYC.

      A genuine tiny minority of anti-jihadist Muslims may be found @ SecularIslam.org.

      Americans remain breathless in anticipation of the vast majority of (allegedly) “peaceful” American Muslims supporting this genuinely tiny minority of their co-religionists... but don’t hold your breath.

      +15K deadly Islamo-supremacist attacks since 9/11 don’t lie. http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

      Don't parrot the propaganda lies of Cordoba House Islamo-supremacists your whole life, Bloomberg.

      August 25, 2010 at 4:28 pm |
  16. Luke

    Dear media,

    I can't decide if you are dumb, evil, or ignorant. I could make a case for all three, but a black hole opens up and swallows me each time I try to wrap my mind around your writing. Stop calling it a mosque. It's a community center, just like the YMCA and the JCC uptown. This thing has a pool, a weight room and GASP – a performing arts center. There is also a prayer room. The building is open to the public and frankly, I'm looking forward to getting a membership so I can join the pool. I like swimming, but there isn't one close to my apartment. Since I work 3 blocks away from Park Place, this thing is going to rock.

    Thanks,
    Sane people

    August 25, 2010 at 10:16 am |
    • g

      Does it make you feel better that it is MOSQUE inside a cummunity center? Does that make it not there? Some people can't wrap their brains around your ideas either.

      August 25, 2010 at 11:39 am |
    • heno

      luke,

      This is seriously the best worded/emoted response to this whole circus. Bravo.

      August 25, 2010 at 2:12 pm |
    • chaba

      THANKYOU Luke!!!

      August 28, 2010 at 10:00 am |
    • KAI NEDD

      You are very right.I am 13 and i don't see why people can't go and worship where they please.911 had nothing to do with this group of people. This is just not for the islamics it's also for the community. Why should they have to be subjected to those kind of harassments and uncalled for comments i think it is a crude to turn away innocent people to me that levels out to discrimanation.

      September 5, 2010 at 1:22 pm |
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