September 5th, 2010
07:54 PM ET

American Muslims nervous about Ramadan's end coinciding with 9/11

For Muslims, the end of the holy month of Ramadan is typically cause for celebration, with three days of feasting and socializing after a month of daytime fasting.

This year, though, many American Muslims are greeting Ramadan's end with a measure of worry, as the holiday coincides with the anniversary of the September 11, 2001, attacks.

"Most Muslim communities will be reluctant to have something that's perceived to be celebratory on 9/11 even though we're not celebrating 9/11," said Ibrahim Hooper, National Communications Director for the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

"There's a whole cottage industry of Muslim bashers now who would seize on that," he said. "Unfortunately, these are the times we live in."

With many American Muslims already feeling intense scrutiny over the controversy surrounding a proposed Islamic center and mosque near New York's ground zero, many mosques and Islamic groups are dramatically altering their usual plans for Eid ul-Fitr, the end of Ramadan holiday.

In the United States, most mosques are expected to celebrate the holiday - typically called Eid - this Friday, September 10, though some may celebrate it a day later - Saturday, September 11 - because of their interpretation of the lunar cycle. Ordinarily, festivities - bazaars, potlucks, bowling alley parties - would extend for three days, following more solemn prayers on the morning of Eid itself.

The Islamic Cultural Center of Fresno, California recently announced that it was cancelling its Eid carnival, originally scheduled for Saturday.

"The decision to cancel the Carnival was due to the recent increase in the levels of hostilities against Islam and Muslims following the proposal to construct an Islamic Center in lower Manhattan," a statement on the center's web site said, "and to deprive extremists from the opportunity to claim that American Muslims are celebrating 9/11."

Eid has never coincided with the anniversary of the September 11 attacks before. Because Muslims follow a lunar calendar, the holiday falls roughly 11 days earlier with each passing year.

The Islamic Center of Murfreesboro, Tennessee, which made national headlines after the site of its future mosque was vandalized last month, has decided against scheduling any festivities for Saturday.

"It's a sad day for us as Americans and it's a sad day for us a nation and we don't feel it would be right to celebrate on the anniversary of 9/11," said Abdou Kattih, vice president of the center's board of directors.

Kattih, who says his brother-in-law was headed to an appointment near New York's World Trade Center on the morning of the 9/11 attacks but got stuck in traffic, says he would never schedule festivities on September 11.

In lieu of celebrations, many mosques are planning open houses next weekend in hopes of strengthening ties to their communities, according to Naeem Baig, vice president for public affairs at the Islamic Circle of North America.

"The anti-Muslim wave we are witnessing is really affecting the Muslim community," Baig said. "Some fear violence against their Islamic center. Rather than be afraid, we're encouraging them to be open and to let people come to their Islamic centers."

The Islamic Circle of North America normally schedules its annual Muslim Family Days at Six Flags amusement parks around Eid, but was careful this year to avoid scheduling any on September 11.

In most cities, Muslim Family Day will be either September 10 or 12, Baig said.

A coalition of influential Muslim groups, meanwhile, has announced a national day of service for September 11, aimed largely at burnishing the image of American Muslims at a sensitive time.

"All eyes will be on us this Eid and on 9/11," reads promotional material for the event. "...But can you imagine the power of a headline or TV news story that features American Muslims as citizens, giving back to our country?"

"On September 11th, let's show that we can rise above prejudice and hatred and be the kind of conscientious citizens who give back to our country by through a national 'Muslim Serve' campaign," the materials continue.

The event is being promoted by CAIR, the Islamic Society of North America, and the Muslim Public Affairs Council, among other organizations.

CAIR's Hooper said that some mosques fear attacks because of Eid and the 9/11 anniversary next weekend. He said his group is encouraging mosques to request stepped-up patrols from local police and to review security procedures.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: 'Ground zero mosque' • Holidays • Houses of worship • Interfaith issues • Islam • Mosque • Ramadan

soundoff (690 Responses)
  1. Damien

    i'm sorry but i find this story hard to believe with the plans of building a mosque near ground zero

    September 5, 2010 at 8:22 pm |
    • Greg

      That's because you are a moron.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:35 pm |
    • Junaid

      thats fine dont believe the story.. do your own research, ramadan follows a lunar calendar and therefor moves back 12 days every year. So go do research, find out when Eid was on 2001 and then take 12 days off for every year till now and see what day that is around.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:55 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Damien, I find it hard to believe that YOU find this story hard to believe. Especially since you still believe in Santa Claus.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:46 pm |
    • Tired

      I am tired of the mis-reporting. It is not a mosque, it IS a community center. Yes, it has a prayer room, for the use of any person of any religion. No, it is not AT ground zero, in fact there are several strip joints closer to ground zero than this community center will be.
      As for 9/11, lets try to remember that it was not just white, christian, Americans who died that day. A plethora of world citizens died that day; persons from many cultures, races and religions (including innocent muslims) and that makes it a day of grief for all who choose to remember. It was an attack on American soil but, more than that, it was an attack on the ideal of true freedom. Let us not remember them by encouraging the loss on any aspect of that freedom, instead let us honor those who died by defending and supporting the freedoms that make us strong.

      September 6, 2010 at 9:29 am |


    September 5, 2010 at 8:22 pm |
    • Haters

      ALL muslims support Al Queda motives, you hypocrite. We don't like people that hate Israel.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:32 pm |
      • Xugos

        You're a troll, I've said over and over again about three times that I do not hate Israel. You'd rather play stupid, so I'll leave you be.

        September 5, 2010 at 9:35 pm |
      • MrsFizzy

        Well guess what? WE don't like people who HATE, period! 😛

        September 5, 2010 at 11:49 pm |
      • wasabiwahabi

        This was an Israeli murdered by muslims. Like in the first ever hijaking by the PLO, like in the 1972 Olympics. The truth hurts, so muslims recreate it. Monsters get as monsters do. You cannot fool all the people all the time.

        September 6, 2010 at 12:37 am |
        • Marc Seltzer

          The ought ot make a movie about all the Christians and Muslims who were murdered at the hands of Israeli's in 1948. Turkey started it all by educating their first leader. The irony is that Israel's first leaderships came out of the Ottoman Empire.

          September 6, 2010 at 1:42 am |
        • Oyster

          Seek help.

          September 6, 2010 at 2:42 am |
        • Oyster

          This was an Israeli murdered by extremists. Like in the first ever hijaking by the extemists, like in the 1972 Olympics. The truth hurts, so extemists recreate it. Extremists get as extremists do. Extremists cannot fool all the people all the time.

          September 6, 2010 at 3:10 am |
      • Indian Hindu

        another muslim hiding beind false propogandas.

        September 6, 2010 at 7:28 am |
      • ROCKWOOD

        I really wish I wouldn't of watched this video, yet on the other hand I somehow found it to be the responsible thing to do. It is going to take me a couple of hours to meditate it out of my head. I was surprised to hear in the video that they think Westerners actually enjoy seeing this fighting going on. I know I don’t enjoy it, and I can say that none of my friends would enjoy it either. Americans commit countless atrocities against one another every day but our laws punish those that commit such crimes. If America acted like this as a society, We wouldn’t be here anymore.

        September 6, 2010 at 9:12 am |
      • rifo

        I can always show you a bus or a market place after a suicide attack in Israel but we dont like to disgrace our dead by displaying their remains for some sympathy so please dont make this about Israel

        September 6, 2010 at 3:38 pm |
      • reality check

        Maybe you should post the pictures and video of the peaceful Hamas who murdered the 4 settlers.

        September 6, 2010 at 6:05 pm |
    • wasabiwahabi

      No kidding: bin Laden called nuclear weapons, "Islamic Bombs." Remember watching that in the second half of that September?

      September 6, 2010 at 12:40 am |
  3. lluna001

    If the Islamic Centers do this that means the terrorists have already won.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:22 pm |
    • Edwin

      lluna: Americans are very fond of their hate. If there had been no 9/11 bombings, this hate would be all directed at Mexicans and Cinco de Mayo. So it really isn't the fault of the terrorists - they redirected the hate, but they didn't create it.

      September 6, 2010 at 2:28 am |
      • Joe

        this is a robotic post.

        September 6, 2010 at 2:43 am |
      • Surthurfurd

        All cultures of any size have this problem. Sadly when we do not know our "fellow" members by name or at least face, we tend to need a simple mechanism to decide who is likely a friend and who is likely an enemy.

        September 6, 2010 at 6:44 am |
  4. Xugos

    Guys, you're all missing the point, Ramadan is on September 10th, not septemeber 11th. I think there's a significant difference.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:22 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Yes, Eid starts on the 10th, BUT how long to many celebrate it for? THAT could cause a problem that would cause this Christian to kick a few anti-american "Christians" butts. You see, long ago, I swore an oath to defend this nation and the constitution. While my term of service ended due to retirement, I don't consider EITHER oath to expire.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:41 pm |
  5. j

    lets all blame Bush for everything....

    September 5, 2010 at 8:21 pm |
    • Arrr!

      everythings the fault of some damme bush!


      September 5, 2010 at 11:01 pm |
  6. mcrocker

    more media BS. no muslims will be attacked during this annual hard period for americans surrounding the 9/11 anniversary. certainly any muslim that might be attacked by a crazy american will not be incinerated at their place of work in a burst of jet fuel followed by being crushed under the weight of a sky scraper. im pretty sure they wont have their heads cut off or be stoned either. i'm pretty sure that even though muslims are attempting to build a victory mosque at ground zero and open it on 9/11, no one will be attacked in anger. anyone caught will be prosecuted promptly and will be shunned as violence is not the answer.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:21 pm |
  7. Surprised

    this is the first time I have ever heard of a group of Muslims joining together to NOT demand their own way. to actually consider how their actions might affect others. It's quite refreshing.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:20 pm |
  8. Charlie

    Ya know, I had no idea Ramadan ended on 9/11 untill C N N pointed it out. And I can only presume they did just to stir up the mud. Nice going, C N N. Real smart.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:20 pm |
    • Xugos

      It ends on the 10th.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:22 pm |
    • Reality

      Actually, CNN isn't the only news organization to report that - and it wasn't to stir up the mud. They did it so that the ignorant masses of people in the US would be informed that the Muslims weren't celebrating 9/11. Talk about nutty conspiracy theories...

      September 5, 2010 at 8:57 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      It actually ends on the 10th, the start of Eid. BUT, that celebration goes on for a week or so (depends on the nation).

      September 5, 2010 at 10:39 pm |
    • Xugos

      Haha, Wzrd, I think you're confusing that with Eid al hadhaa (the latter eid). That one goes on for a week, this one ends at sunset.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:40 pm |
  9. Nick San Diego

    I think it's a wise move, NOT to celebrate. Why give the racists, nastys and hate mongers a chance to distort the whole thing. It's a NO win situation.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm |
    • Junaid

      i agree its tough.... im muslim, ive lived here my whole life and i feel like i havent done anything wrong and why should i stop celebrating my religion.

      I do understand the fear and the sensitivity behind 9/11, those terrorist attacked my country... im just as hurt as any other american, but i know that it was 16 terrorist that flew these airoplanes and not the 1.5 billions muslims around the world.

      In the end, as an american i feel like the constitution has given me the right to celebrate my religion so why shouldnt i? i was attacked too, and as fellow americans you should support my rights regardless of when Eid is.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:52 pm |
    • Reality

      So people should refrain from exercising their rights because they're scared that some group of ignorant fools might distort it? Talk about being cowardly.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:53 pm |
  10. Kas

    Really Parrot........that is a stupid comment. I guess Bush caused the Muslims to bomb the Cole and our embassys too......you are so typical

    September 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm |
    • Fernando F.

      they bomb the Cole because they consider the US Military an invasion of their lands... did I said that? because Americans are not suppose to talk about their Foreign Policy and the problems its causing in Arab lands.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:50 pm |
      • Xugos

        They bombed the cole because they are hell-bent-on-chaos terrorists. Period.

        September 5, 2010 at 9:52 pm |
        • Xugos

          Referring to the radicals of course.

          September 5, 2010 at 9:52 pm |
      • Fred

        You mean we do business with them by buying oil and making them rich???

        September 5, 2010 at 10:02 pm |
        • Sherry in Kentucky

          We don't make all of them rich. Just a few. Just sayin. . .

          September 5, 2010 at 10:55 pm |
      • Wzrd1

        Fernando, so if a GOVERNMENT allows our ships to port, we shouldn't be upset when some extremist attacks us? Granted, we can't be THAT upset with that government over one or a handful of individuals, but we should NOT dock?
        If so, we'll have to abandon flagging our ships and use someone other nation as the registry, because there are people who object to ANY US ship docking in "their" port, cargo, military or Red Cross/Crescent.

        September 5, 2010 at 11:28 pm |
  11. Bill

    We don't hate American Muslims because of 9/11. We hate the foreign muslims who attacked our country and their will be no forgiveness until the leaders and followers of those that attack are country are all killed. They wish for a Holy war, they should have been careful what they wished for.

    What was a disgrace is that some American Muslims cheered when we were attacked and for that those that cheered should consider how fortunate they are to live in a country like this that has religious freedom.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm |
    • Xugos

      I agree.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:21 pm |
    • Junaid

      you hate all foreign muslims? 1.5 billion people? you hate 1/5 of the world? thats a lot of hate

      i bet even the terrorist dont hate that many people

      September 5, 2010 at 8:44 pm |
    • Reality

      What's this "we" crap?

      September 5, 2010 at 8:49 pm |
    • Anoymous

      Don't hate the Religion hate the organization. Black people don't hate Christians because of the KKK's terrorism, don't hate any Muslims because of Al-Quaeda. We are at war with Al-Quaeda not Muslims.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:49 pm |
    • Xugos

      Wasabi, work on your trolling man, it's too obvious.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:08 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Xugos, I personally ignore the horseradish fundamentalist.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:52 pm |
  12. Xugos

    I am a Muslim. I feel that we muslims need to stop playing the victim, and get up and start taking our religion back from mongrel who pretend to run things. We need to stop playing victim, and we need to start educating people upon what we're doing. If someone asks you why you're having a party at your house so near to 9/11, TELL THEM WHY (My family, personally, is toning down celebrations to respect the victims of that horrific attack).

    Hopefully most of my fellow Americans realize that most muslims are just normal people (which means that they have their fair share of criminals, model citizens, and normal people) trying to get by. We're not plotting a take over of the United States or the world as the extreme right-wingers would have you believe.

    I can honestly say that I would not want to LIVE anywhere else in the world, ever, except for the United States of America. There is nothing more you can ask for than this place.

    God Bless America.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:18 pm |
    • Reality

      I say respect those who were killed on 9/11, who died in an attack on their freedom simply be living as America had promised them the ability to live, by -not- toning down your holiday festivities. I say this and I'm not Muslim. I'm a Christian - except I don't follow any particular sect of Christianity and rarely attend church (Christian churches have become far too corrupt - as Revelation stated they would).

      September 5, 2010 at 8:45 pm |
    • Hank

      May God bless you and enjoy Eid. I think the main problem is most Americans do not know a Muslim and just get a picture of what they are like from the news media. I am fortunate that I live in area close to an Islamic center and have actually gotten to know some Muslim people. It is my belief that 95% of the worlds people just want to go about their lives and a small percentage of extremists are the trouble makers. I'd rather believe that than believe a billion or so of the world population is evil.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:17 pm |
    • arthurr

      Xugos- no offense but your Koran tells you to kill-assasinate-MURDER anyone who fails to follow your false prophet who was an illiterate pediphile murderer and follow your false demon god allah. so which is it? you refuse to follow your own precepts? your dont believe in the koran? or you do and like most moslems hide it?!!!

      September 5, 2010 at 9:19 pm |
    • Linda K.

      @arthurr–I'm also an American born Muslim, a convert, and I can tell you that this is not what the Qur'an says. The first time I read the Qur'an, I did so with the intention of finding the mistakes. There are many misconceptions but you won't know for sure what it really says until you read it. I hope you do.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:40 pm |
    • Linda K.

      Eid is a major holiday for Muslims. My teenage children have fasted all during Ramadan and I plan to celebrate, especially for them. Could you imagine depriving your children of celebrating a holiday because it coincides with a tragic event?

      September 5, 2010 at 9:42 pm |
    • Xugos

      Well Arthurr, I don't know why I'd pray to a demon god everyday, demon god doesn't sound very inviting. Humans are more alike than you think, and just fyi if you took the time to open the Qur'an instead of burning it, you would be surprised.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:43 pm |
    • Jibril

      Hank, as you said 95% of these guys are harmless ( ie they want to harm us but don't have the guts or means to carry out) – speaking as a law enforcement official we always worry about the exception to the rule:

      5% of them do have the means to go ahead and commit terrorism. Now 5% of 1.2 billion is a staggering 60 million terrorists. If that doesn't scare you, tell us what you're smoking/growing and my buddies at the ATF will want to visit.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:28 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      I know for a FACT that you're planning on a TOTAL takeover of the kitchen table with food on Eid! Don't deny it!
      If not, drag yourself a bit south of Phila Intl Airport and pop on in. You can celebrate as loud as you want in THIS Christian's house. BUT, I'll insist you only have halal food. I couldn't respect MYSELF for anything otherwise...
      So, a bit early, but... Eid Mubarak!
      Anyone wanna gripe, read my posts above first. To do otherwise is to risk seeing my arm reach out of your computer screen and slap you in the back of the head, then scroll up to those posts...
      OK, I'm not THAT good with computers. But you'll WISH I did...

      September 5, 2010 at 10:37 pm |
  13. No way Joe

    Still blaming Bush. What a freak.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:16 pm |
    • Joe

      How is it that I can hit the "Post" button and 5 "reply" comments appear below mine, in a short robotic nature?

      CNN, you were the only mainstream media I trusted; but I'm starting not to.

      September 6, 2010 at 2:42 am |
  14. Amine

    American regardless of their religion will remember 9/11 and pray for all those who lost their life by the terrorist who murdered children, women and men in the name of religion to justify their barbaric act of death and destruction.

    Rashhashana, Eid prayers for all who lost their life

    September 5, 2010 at 8:16 pm |
    • Reality

      Pray for people who were killed 9 years ago? The same prayers as the last 8 years? By now, even the unfortunate ones you pray for are over it. You think they're stuck in some perpetual state of depression or something? They're free from pain and sorrow now.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:39 pm |
    • mdworker

      Everything I have read, xugos, on islam states that there is NO seperation between church and state. Your believes are in everything, even your laws. That is why women are held in such low esteem, stoned (read any news lately?) kept in check like they don't have a brain in their heads, men get the kids and can divorce when they want to. This is what the muslims want to incorporate into our laws, big push in Deerfield. And you are right,I don't beleive a word that comes out of a muslims mouth and never will, they have an agenda and I don't like it. Thanks but no thanks, keep your religion or better yet lets get rid of it completley. Now there is an idea worth looking into.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:43 pm |
    • Xugos

      Mdworker, the Qur'an doesn't say "stone", "stoning", or "death by stoning" even ONCE. Women are held in low esteem because of backwards tribal culture, not because of Islam. Think about it. One of God's attributes in Islam is "The Just", how can one be just when you make half the world BORN inferior to the other. I know, some people are unfortunately handicapped when they come into this world, but that's different from being inferior in a societal context.

      CHURCH AND STATE ARE SEPARATED. It says that there is no compulsion in religion, it says on multiple occasions that

      "Say to the nonbelievers that you shall believe what you believe, and I shall Believe what I believe, and you shall have your religion, and I shall have my religion"

      If that isn't separation of Church and state, I don't know what is. It clearly says that people who don't believe in Islam are entitled to their beliefs and opinions.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:48 pm |
    • wasabiwahabi

      Reality, that's right. Like slavery, the Holocaust, and cross burnings, just forget it. Forget the problem, and it will blow up downtown Manhattan.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:03 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      mdworker, kindly tell me then. If Islam is SO intolerant and demanding AND jealous, WHY did the State of Qatar build several Christian churches and one Roman Catholic church?
      Isn't that NOT allowed in YOUR world view? Don't confuse Iran and Saudi with the rest of the world. Get REAL facts, I did during my deployment to the Persian Gulf for nearly 5 years. Where did YOU get your info? Some websites?
      THAT's authoritative, why I know of websites that say we've had a war with aliens and lost and they're running the world. I've saw websites that tell me I can have antigravity with a few refrigerator magnets.
      So, don't trust website. Seek the truth yourself. Oh wait, they lie. Oops. That means you cannot have proof provided, even if you're SITTING on it.
      BTW, I'm Christian AND Republican.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:31 pm |
  15. Guy Montag

    As an atheist, I sincerely hope the day will soon come when people choose to longer believe and act upon the tenets of outdated superstition that have led to some of the greatest atrocities known to mankind.

    In the meantime, however, people should be able to celebrate any religion of their choosing without fear of violent retaliation, and the atmosphere of fear and hate currently being fostered and even used as a political platform by many Republicans and all Conservatives today is sickening.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:16 pm |
  16. rob

    The Muslims should respect the issues of 9/11 and not have any celebrations around that time. We are sensitive. Just be yourselves, but do not be outwardly celebrant until after September passes. We remember the jubilation in the streets of the Middle East after the attacks. Don't remind of us that. We are still in mourning and we want to see a peaceful, reserved Islam, not the militant terrorist one.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:15 pm |
    • Xugos

      Rob, I think it's very unfair to label muslims like me – who literally felt a sense of impending doom closing in on that day. The people who were dancing in the streets in the middle east are the scum of the earth, anyone who celebrates the deaths of innocents is. I think we all know how they'd feel if their loved ones were killed in such a fashion.

      We are all human, a different religion does not alter our common senses/morals as humans. I mourned just like every other decent American on 9/11, and it's not fair to label me as "one who danced in the streets with joy".

      September 5, 2010 at 8:20 pm |
    • Bill

      I remember the same in the city of New Orleans during 9/11, so don't think we don't have some radical Islamists here in large groups. I question anyone that has to have dual citizenship in the United States and in Terrorist countries like Iran. They work for our Federal Government and the Private sector and still have dual citizenship. My pledge is to America.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:25 pm |
    • SA

      It's unbelievable how many people still think that those images shown on TV that day was actually footage of people celebrating the attack on 9/11. The footage that was actually shown was Palestinians celebrating Iraq's scud missile attack on Israel in the early 90's. How and why these images were shown following the 9/11 attacks I'll leave to you to decipher.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:31 pm |
    • Greg

      No we are not still in mourning. It's been nine years. Stop using 911 to justify your fear and ignorance. And why shouldn't they be able to celebrate their religious Holiday? Because you and some other bigots think they should crawl under a rock? Grow up.

      September 5, 2010 at 8:32 pm |
    • Reality

      No, -you- are sensitive. -You- are still in mourning. Stop being so sensitive. Stop mourning. Get brave. Are you going to be sensitive and mourn for the rest of your life? What a horrible way to live. And then you expect everyone else to bow to your oversensitive, out-dated mourning?

      September 5, 2010 at 8:33 pm |
    • George

      Really? Would you expect Christians in the Middle East not to celebrate Christmas if it coincided with the US dropping bombs in Iraq?

      September 5, 2010 at 8:37 pm |
    • Junaid

      Bill-i call b.s. on that....

      firstly, im an american muslims, i lived all my life here, and went to many different mosques and never have i seen muslims have hate towards any one, especially not their own kind... americans

      secondly... no one would be stupid enough to celebrate 9/11 in america
      the guy was probably celebrating on his birthday, which happened to be on 9-11, and you saw him and a bunch of other brown people and thought they are celebrating 9-11...

      my brothers birthday is 9-10... bet you would think we were terrorist to for going out and celebrating his birthday. I suggest you not hate others based on misconceptions. Be better then the terrorist your afraid of...

      September 5, 2010 at 8:39 pm |
      • nobody999

        Islamic extremists are my enemy and they should be removed. But your words make sense, and in my mind are valid. I think that muslims should have the right to live among us and with us, with the same rights and freedoms that we all have. However, after Sep 11th, muslims should also have the sensitivity to steer clear of emotional sore spots (like the day that 3000+ Americans were slaughtered by islamic extremists) or I don't know, maybe not building a mega-mosque within a few blocks from the site of that ungodly attack on American civilians. No issues living with and having muslims in our nation, just some increasing issues with their judgement and compassion towards others.

        September 6, 2010 at 3:04 pm |
    • sable

      This sounds sensible Rob,but it would be similar to ask Christian not to celebrate Christmas.Would you do that ,say in respect to bombing Hiroshima.The Muslims have few occasions to celebrate as is and they have been fasting for 1 month,the NEED to celebrate.They WOULD NOT be celebrating 9/11!!

      September 5, 2010 at 8:56 pm |
    • feather

      So the Muslims should suspend celebrations that have gone on for hundreds and hundreds of years because of you.

      Selfish, much?

      September 5, 2010 at 9:08 pm |
    • mboo

      Most ignorant people think that Muslims are not part of America. I am an American born Muslim. My family has been here for generations. I did not celebrate in the streets nor did any Muslim friends of mine. We were all stunned and saddened about the events of that day. I cried for hours. I am also sick of hearing people commenting that "Muslims need to go back home to the Middle east." I have news for you. Only a small percentage of Muslims live in the Middle East. The largest percentage of Muslims live in Asia, and also they are in North Africa. I just wanted to say to those morons, I am home and I am not going anywhere! By the way, my husband is a very loving and kind man and he would never lay a hand on me.
      So, if a terrible catastrophe happened on Thanksgiving. Would that stop anybody from celebrating Thanksgiving with your family and friends in the future? EID is a similar celebration like Thanksgiving. It just falls on different days throughout the years. We should not feel that we cant celebrate on September 11. I do not know anyone that is a terrorist. I get so upset that just because I am Muslim that somehow I am associated with the criminals of 9/11. I am an American and 9/11 happened to me too.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:10 pm |
    • Martin Korvak

      Just how the Nazi's talked about the Jews before WWII; they blamed the Jews for losing WWI. Telling Muslims how to behave around 9/11 is saying they're responsible for it. No one claimed that right after 9/11 – making that claim now is a BIG LIE.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:15 pm |
    • Amee

      Rob, I am Christian and I don't understand a lot about the muslin faith, but I am very disturbed by what SEEMS to be a group of people that hate us just because we are Christian. I don't understand that. I have NO problem with you worshiping the way you want to, that is why our men and women have went to war so many times, to let freedom ring!! I just want to be afforded the same freedom and it seems like it is politically incorrect to be a christian, we seem to have no rights lately and to be honest it does scare me. I see in the middle east where they want to stone a woman for not wearing a head covering, why is that?? I am not trying to be a fearmonger just trying to understand. I believe in Jesus and he was for love not hate. I am not a radical nor am I an extremist.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:15 pm |
      • jspitzer

        No one hates you, go to a Mosque and talk to Muslims and educate yourself. Your questions are like a Muslim asking you why you Christians kill Muslims in Russia and Serbia?

        And so you know, both Jesus and Mary are mentioned more times in the Quran than Muhammad.

        September 7, 2010 at 12:37 am |
        • Fast Eddie


          There are people who hate everybody. But I suppose you weren't really including them, were you?
          Thanks for being a voice of peace in the wilderness. We need more people like you...I think.

          September 7, 2010 at 1:02 am |
        • jspitzer

          No, you are correct. I should have been more specific. What I meant was Muslims don't hate Anna? Emma? I forget her name. Crazy Muslims might hate you, but that is because they are crazy and not Muslim. People should really just go to a Mosque and see for themselves.

          September 7, 2010 at 1:06 am |
    • Xugos

      Islam is not a legal system, it is purely away to establish a relationship between you and God.

      Mdworker, something tells me that you would still be angry if muslims did not celebrate 9/11 (which they won't, and never will).

      September 5, 2010 at 9:32 pm |
    • Kate


      You're wrong, not that the right answer is much better. They want to stone her for adultery (though really it's for murder but they couldn't prove the charge so figured the adultery charge would do instead), they want to flog her for not wearing hijab – or, rather, for "causing to be distributed a picture" of her not wearing hijab.

      Although somewhere along the line they seem to have been making up the punishments as they go along – flogging is supposed to be the punishment for adultery (in the US you just get divorced, a much more painful process).

      Don't mistake culture for religion is all I can say. Not much comfort, but ... at least you'll be wincing with accurate information now

      Just educatin'

      September 5, 2010 at 9:38 pm |
    • Jibril

      Words to the unwise : When in Rome, do as Romans do. ( I know that went way over your head, so I'll break it down for you: If the people of the land don't find a particular date to be good for partying, either don't party or keep in very quiet)

      Kinda like how it is illegal for foreigners AND natives to eat in public in Saudi during Rammadan fasting – get it now ?

      September 5, 2010 at 10:22 pm |
      • Temitope

        Ya right, Bro...

        September 6, 2010 at 5:11 am |
    • Wzrd1

      Bill, you're ABSOLUTELY right! We should NOT get intelligence help from them! We'll throw out ALL intelligence given by Muslims. Right after YOU put on a military uniform and go to the front.
      Until then, shut up about what you don't know about.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:26 pm |
    • Sevda

      @Bob "we want to see a peaceful islam, not a terrorist..."

      UM are you kidding me? Islam is a peaceful religion and to blame all muslims on a handful of uneducated men's decision is stupidity. I'm embarrassed for you.

      September 6, 2010 at 2:21 am |
  17. Jessie

    The Beck/Palin Hate Machine is leading to this century's Kristallnacht. I'm getting my attic ready.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:14 pm |
    • Yahoo

      True and scary!

      September 5, 2010 at 9:13 pm |
    • Rachel

      @John-I can't help but notice that this is the 2nd time that you have accused someone of being a "muslim sympathizer"? Are you a little bit sensitive or are you just looking for people to attack?
      This kind of paranoia is caused by a fear of something that you don't understand. Its a similar reaction by many in this nation whose first reaction is to condemn all because of the sins of few. American muslims are just that...American. This nation was founded on freedom of religion, separation of church and state, pure and simple. Good people exist no matter what their faith, so love God your way and don't hate someone for loving in theirs, because its the same God anyway.
      By the way, I'm not even acknowledging the obvious exclusion of radicals everywhere, in ANY religion. I wish people could see how alike we all are.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:52 pm |
    • scranton

      Please find other bogey men to hide under your bed...oh and you may wish to turn off MSNBC.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:14 pm |
    • Jibril

      Rachel, are you stating that you're not a Muslim ?

      September 5, 2010 at 10:15 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Rachael, don't be surprised. Earlier today I was denounced as a "confirmed AQ member" and that the authorities were notified.
      Had that happened, my phone would've already rang. Something about my work with DoD would generate THAT, as I was deployed in the Persian Gulf region for nearly 5 years.
      I simply replied with a LOT of ROFLMAO and told him that I would have been notified. AND that I had 27+ years of military service. AND my clearance was higher than those who HE could talk to... 🙂
      This week it's denounce the commies, errrr, Muslims.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:23 pm |
    • Rachel

      No, I am not a Muslim, in fact I was raised in the Southern Baptist faith. However, some of my dearest friends are Muslim, and its heartbreaking to see generalizations and hatemongering cause American citizens to look over their shoulders while their living their daily lives-hatemongering that is endorsed by politicians!
      I am not a teeny bopper. I am a woman who recognizes that God is always God, however he is called, and always good.

      September 5, 2010 at 11:01 pm |
      • AGeek

        When the followers don't speak out, denouncing atrocities caused in the name of their religion, they're defacto supporting those atrocities. *This* is what people are outraged about. It's no more or less different than Catholics who remain silent about The Vatican's handling of pedophile priests. This outrages sane, moral (w/ or w/o religion) humans.

        September 6, 2010 at 7:31 am |
        • Mei

          I agree, though you are wrong on the Vatican. Actually the Vatican has spoken out a LOT concerning the abuse by priests. Most of the news from the Vatican is NOT reported by the liberal media. You need to follow news on zenit instead.

          September 6, 2010 at 8:05 am |
        • Reality

          Christians should burn their NT's come Easter for being victimized by the great Resurrection con!! And considering all Muslims have been victimized by the great Gabriel con, on 9/11 they should burn their korans.

          September 6, 2010 at 8:25 am |
    • Rachel

      and if you argue with that, then you have bigger fish to fry.

      September 5, 2010 at 11:02 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Rachel, wanna know the Arabic word for God?
      It's a translation, not a name.
      God doesn't NEED a name, there's only one god. Hence, no need for a name.
      Me? I was raised Catholic. We had a parting of the ways due to a mutual disagreement. MY god is one of life and mercy, theirs was a vengeful, spiteful, smiteful one.The documentation didn't match their opinion and I was told I was wrong for reading the bible, rather than a priest explain it to me.
      Since I'm fluent with middle english, ENGLISH (what is spoken in England) and American, I disagreed.

      September 5, 2010 at 11:15 pm |
    • eily

      That's what I've been saying all along.... all these talks about "the islamists" "the muslims" makes me feel like soon my muslim husband will have to wear a cresent moon on all of his clothes and I will go to jail for trying to hide him.... I mean really people the hitler's brain washing didn't happen that long ago... and now we have these idiots beck and palin trying to reenact it all over again.... this country was based on freedom of religion, we are not a segregated country.

      The people who were innocently killed and those who gave their lives on this particular day wouldn't want us to "hate" but to open our minds and reach out to those.

      Hate is what killed over 2million jews (and others)less than 100 years ago.... let's not have hate take over our lives and make another mistake for humanity.

      Hate will not stop the extremists from attacking or planning.... it will only grow their hate more...which will lead to worse... love thy neighbor especially if that neighbor has personally never done anything to u.


      September 5, 2010 at 11:52 pm |
    • eyes open

      "As late as 1928, the Nazis had less than three percent of the vote. Two years later, the most respectable Berlin press was lamenting the many millions in this “highly civilized country” who had “given their vote to the commonest, hollowest and crudest charlatanism.”

      September 6, 2010 at 12:59 am |
      • eyes open

        led by the charismatic figure who, in his words, was carrying out “the will of eternal Providence, the Creator of the universe."

        Beck, or Hitler?


        September 6, 2010 at 6:01 pm |
  18. JohnOBX

    Probably a sensible move on the part of American Muslims. Regardless, there will be those that go ahead with celebrations that will be distorted by G. Beck and company.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:14 pm |
    • john

      What has Glen Beck got to do with the interpretation. The truth is Muslim supporters were dancing on the streets not only in Muslim countries but even in some sectors of Broolyn where there are many Muslims when the towers fell. Where was the condemnation by American Muslims to the terrorist attack - none, they were just silent probably happy in the belief that Muslims have been vindicated. In fact their Imam even blames the destruction of the tower to America itself. You are probably a Radical Muslim sympathizer!

      September 5, 2010 at 9:22 pm |
    • Linda K.

      I never heard about any Muslims dancing in the streets on 9/11 except for that one footage that was later proved to be misleading. (It was a tape from another celebration and had nothing to do with 9/11.) Most of us were afraid, both as Americans and as Muslims who suffer repercussions from our fellow Americans. My children's Islamic school had to be closed all week because of phoned-in threats. 9/11 was, and still is, a sad event for Muslims, especially those of us living here in the U.S.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:34 pm |
    • Jibril

      Linda –

      what misleading tape ? Just search "Palestinians celebrating 9/11" on Youtube and you'll get many many videos. Are they all false ? So AP, CNN, BBC are all wrong ? Why are you reading/commenting on CNN then ?

      September 5, 2010 at 10:14 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      John, I'll tell you now, there were NO Americans dancing in the streets. Overseas, mostly in Palestine, yes. Egypt, yes. Here no. ZERO on even our most secure networks about that, save for reporting it DIDN'T happen (documents weren't classified).
      Silence? Were YOU out on the street shouting? Or were YOU like the rest of America, shocked, hurt and raging?
      WHY would you think THEY would be different?
      Regarding a few Imams out there saying it was our fault, wanna know WHY it *IS*?
      We TRAINED Bin Laden. I know, because *I* was trained by the same folks before they retired. They even warned our class about what would become AQ Afghanistan.
      So, kindly get the FACTS before you spout off. I was told about it in the EARLY 1980's. BUT, it was classified back then.
      It's public knowledge now, what's YOUR excuse?
      Go read my entry above for more info. It's a sad story about a LOT of stupid concentrated in two parts of the world. Washington, DC and Afghanistan.
      And as one who lost a cousin in the towers, one who has lost buddies in Iraq AND Afghanistan, WHY is it after nearly 5 years of being deployed in the war zone, *I* have no problems with the Islamic center a few blocks from the Trade Center disaster zone? You don't trust my experience of 27+ years of defending this nation? You don't trust my abovementioned near 5 years of deployed service where I dealt with Arabs daily?

      September 5, 2010 at 10:19 pm |
    • asher

      Jibril...you might as well youtube search Israelis celebrating 9/11 too...

      September 5, 2010 at 11:02 pm |
  19. Arsio

    Muslim is a belief not a race. The real victims of terrorism aren't Americans nor Europeans but Muslims, just read the news. So who the hell cares about what your fellow citizen thinks you have much right as that ignorant who consumes all what media tells him and has no thinking of his own.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:11 pm |
    • Susan

      Be respectful of all the US citizens that died on 9/11. Plan your celebration for another day.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:18 pm |
    • lucidguy

      Yeah right, would we do the same? What if some nutter Christian cult went out and managed to slaughter thousands of people in the Middle East on Christmas no less. Would you be willing to move Christmas?

      Think about stuff from other perspective. Muslims as a whole are under no obligation to "be respectful" for anything that happened on 9/11. American people of Islamic faith had NOTHING to do with it. It's time to face reality, or atleast learn how to mind our own business.

      I'm not Muslim, you're not Muslim. So what does this have to do with us?! Nothing!

      September 5, 2010 at 9:32 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Lucidguy, the dickens it doesn't say anything about you! It says that you are sane and reasonable. Something lacking these days.
      Let's tell a story. A true one at that, something we're unacquainted with in the media these days.
      On September 11, 2001, my cousin, Michael Stabile went to work. He never returned home, no body to bury.
      I knew about AQ Afghanistan from training I received in the military by those who trained THEM. Our leadership was advised to remove them from this earth after the Afghan-Soviet war was over and Carter told them "We don't do business that way" and they remained alive. In spite of repeated warnings that they hated the Soviets AND us, they just hated the Soviets a BIT more that year...
      Fast forward to a few days after 9/11. It was no great surprise about AQ Afghanistan. I had tracked their activities at the end of their conflict with the Soviets and noted their skills and guile.
      Some time later, I deployed to the Persian Gulf for the war effort. I immediately acquired an english copy of the Quron and read it. To understand the beliefs of one's enemy is to know what they would do. I found a few items to give pause, but nothing much worse than our OWN bible and history.
      And around Christmas time, I was wished Merry Christmas by Arabs I never met, just in passing at the hypermarts there (like our supermarkets AND department stores combined). FAR more often than I *EVER* got at home.
      I eventually kind of "adopted" a Saudi raised kid, Saudi and US citizen who was working with me in a different office. He didn't like many of our contractors we were with, neither did I.
      He had recently married and a year later, his son was born.
      My wife and I lived off post near them, so we began to go over his house frequently. We played with his children (his wife eventually gave him a daughter to keep his son company) daily and we even came over each others house and made dinner together (Imagine, a Saudi COOKING for his wife and kids! AND some American cooking too!).
      His wife didn't wear hijab around us, such was not required in the countries I was in (Bahrain, Kuwait and Qatar). Women could drive, my wife and his wife elected NOT to, as the roads were more like demolition derbies than highways.
      He one day announced that we were the Godparents to his children. We accepted, though I DID mention it'd feel strange to raise a child in a faith not my own, I'd do so for him.
      His parents came to visit. We got along famously, even WITH my off color jokes.
      We have an open invitation to visit them in Saudi, where he's living and working any time. My wife and I, fully briefed by him and his family STILL have no qualms. Why? My FIRST thought IS that I'm a guest in their country. So, I'll respect their customs, whether or not I agree with them. As THEY do here when they visit here. And believe me, there are PLENTY of Arabs here in the US getting an education and visiting.
      As a further aside, the State of Qatar has built several Christian churches and one Roman Catholic church.
      Do YOU see any intolerance there? If you do, PLEASE provide the microscope so I can see it.
      Me, the guy who went shopping with his wife in the off limits areas (we didn't get briefed due to an odd scheduling problem until we were regular customers there), where they were "hostile" to Americans with ZERO problems and got "family" prices.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:11 pm |
    • Jessy

      @ Lucidguy – (qoute) What if some nutter Christian cult went out and managed to slaughter thousands of people in the Middle East on Christmas no less. Would you be willing to move Christmas?(end quote)

      What other countries do is none of my concern. Besides, we're now seeing Muslims acting concerned for the well being of non-muslim, yet the Extremist Christians are still being anal.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:55 pm |
    • wrack

      if we start letting terrorism dictate when we may have our holidays they will just knock them all off the calendar and we'll end up mourning every single day of our miserable little lives.

      September 5, 2010 at 11:07 pm |
    • lucidguy

      I'm going to say this one more time because obviously you're having a hard time understanding this point. American Muslims had nothing to do with 9/11. They should bear no responsibility for it. This isn't subjective either. It is a fact. Collective punishment does not roll in this country anymore.

      September 5, 2010 at 11:42 pm |
    • Aysha


      Tell the Christians to not celebrate the Assumption of Mary in Spain because in the summer of 722, their people were wiping out the entire Islamic population.

      Tell the Germans to not celebrate any of their birthdays on December 8th, for that would be an anniversary of when the death camps started their mass genocide during the Holocaust.

      I can go on forever because seriously, this is pure stupidity.

      September 6, 2010 at 12:50 am |
    • Mei

      I agree with Susan. They should plan their celebrations on another day and they should denounce the Ground Zero mosque since they know how disrespectful it is. A good example of this situation is when nuns in Germany wanted to set up monastery in a Nazi concentration camp but the pope at the time, JPII, said no. Even though Catholics died at the Nazi camp too (including several religious who were declared saints later on), he said it was disrespectful to the Jewish community. If a pope can recognize this, the Islam community should too. Not to mention there are already TWO mosques in that location to serve the community. The Ground Zero mosque center has no purpose other than to promote Islam.

      September 6, 2010 at 8:01 am |
    • Travis

      As someone stated earlier, to be fair, you could move your mourning to a different day, but that would be wrong, right? One day is a Holy Day from a major religion and the other is a time of remembrance for a tragedy. What if you asked the Irish to postpone Easter to remember those who died in the Easter Rising tragedy? Or how about moving Christmas to a different day?

      September 9, 2010 at 5:21 pm |
  20. Kidada

    Don't be nervous I'm sure people will ask while you're out an about why you're celebrating. Just tell them it's the end of Ramadan and go about your way. Don't worry about nasty people who would probably have a problem with you being Muslim even if 9/11 hadn't happened.

    September 5, 2010 at 8:07 pm |
    • Mel

      The date of Ramadan changes every year and it is no coincidence it aligns with 9/11. Read the Qu'ran ... it's all there.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:05 pm |
    • Xugos

      Mel, since it moves back roughly every 11 days, and since 365 isn't evenly divisible by 11, it's mathematically to be expected that it will eventually hit the date 9/11, considering the age of Islam and the beginning of it's Lunar calendar. Let's please try not to make something out of nothing.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:07 pm |
    • Jeff Kelly

      Better yet! Take advantage of the date to show true sorrow and regret for the heinous actions of the radical factions of their religion. Denounce their actions and promote peace, tolerance, and harmony amongst ALL religions. Only then will the world consider acceptance of "their" religion.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:14 pm |
    • Kate

      @Jeff Kelly

      If everyone's having to apologize for the actions of their particular crazies, Christianity can apologize for the pedophile priests and the Baptists dishonoring our fallen heroes.

      Hark! Is that crickets I doth hear?

      Just sayin'

      September 5, 2010 at 9:18 pm |
    • Do The Right Thing

      A loving request to Muslims:  Please, show us non-muslims the same respect that you show each other and just wait 48 hrs before you begin celebrating.  Surely, you can manage this.  Please, oh please do the right thing and don't party down on the anniversary of the terror attacks in New York and Washington.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:18 pm |
    • Xugos

      Do The Right Thing, personally, if I could stop the entire community from celebrating I would, but there is a more important question that arises. Why should a particular identifiable group be penalized for the actions of a few crazies within? More importantly, what difference would it make? You would just be making a political point that you associate muslims with those who attacked America that day.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:22 pm |
    • Xugos

      By the way, I thought I might add that Eid is on either the 9th or 10th this year, and not September 11th as CNN seems to think. Interesting.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:23 pm |
    • iac249

      Why should the act committed by 19 terrorists change the game for America's 7 million Muslims? It shouldn't, and it must not.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:42 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Oh yeah! Well, I'm here to tell ALL of you Muslims right now, Ramadan Kareem.
      And on the 10th, Eid Mubarak!
      So, how do you like THOSE apples? Or would you rather peaches? 🙂
      Seriously, enjoy your well earned celebration. I remember well how Ramadan felt for those around me when I was deployed.
      And I also remember well the Eid celebrations I was invited to.
      I can only reciprocate what I received in Qatar on MY religious holidays from the Arab locals. I was wished Merry Christmas more times there than I EVER received at home!

      September 5, 2010 at 9:52 pm |
    • Androloma

      Let's all vow to mind our own business for a change. All of us. First to violate this rule is first to be punished with a fair punishment and a public humiliation. Radical idea, I know. But it may be worth a try.

      September 5, 2010 at 9:55 pm |
    • Kate


      Well said

      September 5, 2010 at 9:56 pm |
    • Jibril

      Kate ( aka Just foolin')

      When other religions acquire the proportion of crazies that Islam presently has, then we can ask them to apologize. Right now, you guys are the world leaders in terrorism. So, thanks for playing, but you've been called out.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:08 pm |
    • jason

      well they could show some moments of mourning and pray for the losses of 9/11. They won't though because just as a lot of christians, they will say it wasnt there religion that did the wrongs but a few bad apples so why should the whole religion change there tradition of celebration or be punished. As for the personj talkin bout the quaran and the alignment of 9/11 , exactly what are u suggesting there? There is no alignment other than the date happenes to fall on 9/11 this year and the quaran does not tell of this. Belive what you want to belive and pray how you want to pray . God will judge your honor in the faith when the time has come, till then let no others judge or corupt your beliefs.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:41 pm |
    • asher

      Jibril...crazy is relative....I think it is crazy when 8 out of 10 people at the local Walmart are morbidly obese...I think it is crazy that deaths from gun violence is not as big a deal as it should be in America...I think that it is crazy that so many people tune into Fox news and think it is reality...I think it is crazy that so many people misspell "loose" and "lose"...I think it is crazy that so much evidence of priests using their power for evil does not sway the religious mentality...I think it is crazy that out of the billions of Muslims in the world, most people like you think that every one of them are out to get you....every generation has their boogeyman...it makes us comforted when we have a face to the evil and chaos in the world...Yes, Muslim extremists are in the world...I have met many Muslims and none of them have been extremists....but I have met many many Christian extremists that are causing trouble...they are on the side of the road with signs and telling me to repent or go to hell...I usually hand them my trash.

      September 5, 2010 at 10:51 pm |
    • Nursehope

      Take this day to reach out to a person of a different faith other than yours...ANY faith and ask questions to understand their perspective. OR is that to scary for you right wing fear mongers?

      September 5, 2010 at 11:02 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Asher, I've saw the same crazy you have and more. Fortunately ONE crazy I was spared while I was deployed.
      A buddy was blown up in Iraq. While I was overseas, his remains went home.
      Westboro Baptist church protested his service. BEFORE the yard limit days, they were RIGHT at the grave site.
      It is fortunate I was overseas, else I would be doing multiple life sentences for killing as many as I could. And as my personal sidearm holds 7 + on in chamber, that would be 8 before anyone could stop me.
      You see, unlike my unit I retired from, *I* was trained to NEVER miss with a zero reflex and even TODAY, I'd do that. It's THAT offensive to me to hurt the family that way. And since I was color guard, I WOULD have been there.
      Now, THAT is crazy. Me AND Westboro. May the creator will that we never meet.
      OK, my spleen has been partially vented.
      To the Muslims, Eid Mubarak! How do you like THOSE apples?

      September 5, 2010 at 11:03 pm |
    • wrack

      people are so butt hurt over everything. "don't build this here, don't celebrate that then, don't wear those in here, don't believe in that god"

      way to enjoy freedom . . .

      September 5, 2010 at 11:04 pm |
    • Broman

      The Islamic terrorists should not be termed "radical" Muslims, rather they should be labeled fundamental Muslims. As for Catholicism, it does not follow fundamental (Biblical) Christianity nor do the so-called baptists of Westboro.

      September 5, 2010 at 11:09 pm |
    • Greg

      Do the Right Thing, that is a ridiculous request. There is no reason the Muslims in this country should bow down to the right wing fear mongers of this country. Enough is enough. This divide the country with fear BS needs to end. Wedge issue politics is a gift from Carl Rove and it needs to be done away with.

      September 5, 2010 at 11:12 pm |
    • Greg

      Mel, your right. It's a big conspiracy. I'm so relieved you figured it out for us. I can't believe the CIA and the FBI and all the other alphabet agencies missed it. What would we have done without you Mel? Hey shouldn't you be at the diner with Flo?

      September 5, 2010 at 11:19 pm |
    • TomCom

      Are we sensitive to Japanese when it comes to the date we bombed Nagasaki and Hiroshima, or do Americans really don't care?

      September 5, 2010 at 11:21 pm |
    • Li

      They are only afraid because they are the minority. If vice-versa, they'd be celebrating both

      September 5, 2010 at 11:27 pm |
    • Greg

      Susan, why don't you plan your mourning on another day? It's just a date right?

      September 5, 2010 at 11:32 pm |
    • Asim

      You find a nice muslim next door who is kind and good member of society and think Islam is a beautiful religion. But he is in fact following just the 5% that is good in it, the core of islam is barbaric 5th century and that should not be welcomed into any civilized country. Based on size and scale of hate and violence in islam, there is absolutely no comparisons. Also comparison of today's happenings to historical events of other religions is not valid.

      September 5, 2010 at 11:32 pm |
    • Moammed

      I Dont feel Nervous, cause I didnt Go with muslims attack NY.
      American ppl calm down.

      September 5, 2010 at 11:33 pm |
    • Moammed

      MR. Obama will say congratulations!
      its the freedom country guys! common

      September 5, 2010 at 11:37 pm |
    • Lee Bartholomew

      Just wait till there's a big bombing on Dec 25th. then we won't be able to celebrate Christmas. and of course we can't celebrate Halloween because that falls on Reformation sunday. do'h And let me know how many bunnies will be peeved during Easter.. oh wait Easter isn't about bunnies. Everybody worried about dates. Wel 06/06/06 didn't exactly kill us. Lemme guess too much Hollywood and 2012? which is actually a celebration on the Mayan Calendar but the movie thinks it's the end of the world.

      September 5, 2010 at 11:55 pm |
    • Kate


      Nice assumption, but unfortunately – made of total and utter FAIL.


      Please make your way to the crazy's exit where you can meet up with your WBC friends and they can wipe the egg off your face.

      Just smirkin'

      September 6, 2010 at 12:12 am |
    • Aysha

      Seriously, religion needs to stop causing problems in society. Yeah, September 11th is a day where thousands upon thousands of Americans will be mourning. And yes, September 11th is a day where Muslims will be celebrating Eid.

      Look up "Reconquista." It was a time period when both Christians and Muslims had occupied Spain. There was a war called the Battle of Covadonga, which took place in the summer of 722. Basically Christians had wiped out the Islamic population. Now would Christians not go to church when say.. the Assumption of Mary occurred? I mean, years ago their people were killing and wiping out a religious population, right? Its a public holiday in several countries, yet no one says a peep.

      WHO THE HELL CARES do what you wants, thats what is so great about the country.

      September 6, 2010 at 12:15 am |
    • markglicken

      It would be a good opportunity for the Muslim community to mourn and reflect on 9-11 like the rest of America.

      September 6, 2010 at 12:16 am |
    • Sane Science

      "There's a whole cottage industry of Muslim bashers now who would seize on that," he said. "Unfortunately, these are the times we live in."

      Islam teaches "An eye for an eye", but when they are implicated, "It's a mistake!"

      September 6, 2010 at 12:44 am |
    • Kevin

      Suppose something as terrible and horriffic as 9/11 had happened on 12/25? Would it then be appropriate to put of Christmas for a couple of days? I don't think so. Eid-ul-Fitri occurs when it does. The Islamic calendar is a lunar calendar which that months are slightly shorter than months on the Gregorian calendar (with the exception of February of course) and so Ramadan and Eid-ul-Fitri occur a little earlier each year. That's just the wa it is. We can't change it any more than Christians can change the date of Christmas day.

      September 6, 2010 at 12:53 am |
    • annoyed

      I was born and raised here and it really annoys me that I have to be a teenager scared to walk in my OWN country and be able to celebrate my holiday. Majority of people in America are Christians, who get all their holiday off every year as well as the Jews with Hanakah. We have to request days off, miss important school work and then on top of that get scrutinized by the entire country for attacks I had NOTHING to do with. I deal with ignorant people EVERYDAY and don't ask for sympathy or even care .. I'm so used to it, it doesnt matter. But, i do have a right after a WHOLE month of fasting to celebrate my holiday in this country with RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. There are no exceptions, regardless of religion. People need to learn to accept that.

      September 6, 2010 at 1:00 am |
    • danny khun

      It seem that Muslim leaders are sensitive enough about celebrating the end of Ramadan that coincide with 9/11 and chose not to celebrate to show respect on the other hand the builders of the NY Mosque near ground zero have displayed zero sensitivity.

      Christians have and are always being bash and attack by Islam esepcially Christianity in Muslim land such as Saudi Arabia, 9/11 have open the eyes of Americans to the reality of it all.

      September 6, 2010 at 1:16 am |
    • bob

      So the muslims are worried about Americans...ha..who thought of this article...good grief....lets just say it Americans are racist, because we hate everyone who is not Christian...WHAT!!!!!!! The country needs to grow some NUTSS!!!! Lets get together and make some noise!!!!!!!

      September 6, 2010 at 1:43 am |
    • Annoyed at Annoyed

      @annoyed- As a Christian living in a 99% Muslim country, where Muslim holidays are celebrated and Christian holidays are purposively ignored, I figure that's part of living in a country that is MUSLIM. Get over it- you live in a country that is predominantly Christian, secondly atheist or other, and a small amount of Muslims. If you don't like it- move elsewhere. Do you think it would be a better idea to celebrate every religious holiday in America? I don't think kids would ever be in school...

      September 6, 2010 at 4:12 am |
    • Also Annoyed at Annoyed

      Born and grown up in the largest moslem country in the world, I 'had' to celebrate one week long of Ramadhan festival while only given one day to celebrate Christmas. And I'm not a moslem, go figure. As another posting said, it's part of living in this country. Get over it.

      Life is all about choice. If you don't like it, choose to live in another country. I did.

      September 6, 2010 at 4:46 am |
    • James M.

      Nice job Annoyed@Annoyed, you completely missed Annoyed's point! You live in a country that 99% muslim, good for you, but a really bad comparison! Annoyed lives in a country that is supposed to be tolerant to all beliefs as guaranteed in the Constitution! Yet, he still has to worry about being harrassed because of his religion! Get a clue !

      September 6, 2010 at 4:47 am |
    • GrumpyBearDC

      Yeah, you tell the ignorant torch-bearing villagers it's the end of Ramadan, and everyone will go on about their lives, and forget this whole unfortunate story. While you are at it, tell them about the theory of evolution, and the importance of empirical thinking.

      September 6, 2010 at 5:09 am |
    • H. Sabassi

      If you wanna rise above prejudice and hatred then stop building that damned mosque

      September 6, 2010 at 5:45 am |
    • rs1201

      There are supposedly 1.3 billion muslims around the world and 1% is purported to be violent...radical...evil criminals...That's 13 MILLION TERRORISTS running around loose amongst us...I'm not comforted by that fact and when I see a muslim...it raises a red flag immediately especially at airports, train stations (Grand Central comes to mind), or malls.
      Muslims have made a name for themselves in terrorism...no other group has done as much as they have in this century and continues to do. They're busy stoning and lashing women to death, children are being buried alive, and beheadings galore...there's absolutely nothing redeeming about islam and the "infidels" out there better keep that in mind at all times.
      And no...I'm not a redneck nor trailer trash as muslims would like to think...I'm a highly educated American to be counted amongst the top 5% of our country in terms of education and financial assets.

      September 6, 2010 at 5:59 am |
    • Westerner

      Celebrate in the basement quietly and you will be fine.
      the two events collide on the calendar, bummer , deal with it. Do play the victims as always.

      September 6, 2010 at 6:11 am |
    • Jay

      It's a sad day everyday for any Christian living in a Muslim country. If you're capable of reading press accounts not of American origin, you'll see where Muslims regularly beat and murder Christians in Africa and the MIddle East. Christians in Sharia Courts have no hope of justice for these atrocities. I'm sorry your party plans aren't working out.

      September 6, 2010 at 6:27 am |
    • abusuood

      In most muslim countries, the Eid holiday is on 9th or 10th.

      September 6, 2010 at 6:33 am |
    • Indian Hindu

      Well Islam is not at all a religion of peace, its a cult with an intention of world domination.

      They have this hait of creating a mosque every place they "win", In India all Hindu places of worship were destroyed, when muslims won, and created mosques from the rubbles.

      These muslims are so insensitive that they can shift their mosque away. Who in America is asking them not to build a mosque, just don't do it right at GZ. They cant even do that. But they always tell you that Islam is a religion of peace.

      September 6, 2010 at 7:22 am |
    • Mei

      I think if Muslims are worried, they should do something to remember 9-11, such as put up signs of condolence or sorrow for those who were killed. Those who don't live in NYC don't see any efforts by Muslim communities to remember 9-11 or acknowledge that hundreds were killed in the name of Islam. They need to denounce radical Muslims, because no one sees this. They only see silence from the Muslim community and that does not improve their image at all.

      September 6, 2010 at 7:58 am |
    • Jess

      @H. Sabassi says:
      September 6, 2010 at 5:45 am
      If you wanna rise above prejudice and hatred then stop building that damned mosque

      That was a complete contradiction. "damning" a Mosque is a prime example of hatred and prejudice. Looks like there's still a long way to go before rising above anything...

      September 6, 2010 at 8:16 am |
    • Linda

      When you move to the United States, you dress like Americans, you act like Americans and you learn the language.
      You do one more thing, you change to the social values of the States. THe men are not above the women, but equal.
      You do not marry little children and you do not kill females–just because. If you do not want to live like we do-GO HOME and stay home. YOU ALSO DO NOT KILL OR LIE TO CHRISTIANS--

      September 6, 2010 at 8:55 am |
    • veggiedude

      People, there is no plan to build a "Ground Zero mosque". Why do people keep bringing this myth up? It will be two blocks away. Yet it is referred to as being on 'ground zero' to bring up hard feelings. Purely for political reasons it seems. These same people don't seem to care that Glenn Beck held his rally at the same place (not even a block away) and anniversary date of MLK – for some reason, that was not insensitive. No, that was to bring back god to America. Imagine if muslims said they wanted to bring Allah to America? Can you imagine?

      September 6, 2010 at 10:01 am |
    • Kevin

      I have to agree with Annoyed. Christians and Jews get to celebrate their holidays and even have time off for them built right into the calendar. Muslims are part of this country too contrary to what hate-mongers would have us believe. We have as much right to celebrate our holidays as anyone of any other religion. This is our country too. In the country with the largest population, Indonesia, Muslim, Christian, Hindu, and Buddhist holidays are recognized and everyone gets the day off for them. We can do the same thing here.

      September 6, 2010 at 2:48 pm |
    • Iqbal khan

      And call them for prayer like...

      September 6, 2010 at 10:24 pm |
    • killuminati

      You did not kill my people... why would I hate you?
      Stop this Racist crap!
      All whites are not to be hated because of the few idiots!
      Why do you do it to the rest of the world and want the rest of the world to hate and show out right hate to the whole race of another people just to get to at a few select target individuals and make life harder on all the rest on both sides? Don't people care for anything that they cause from their actions to other people around the world when they do something this racist? Come on wake up! This is like the old racist days all over again and America has not changed! Look at how republicans for example do with Obama. It makes me sick to still be living in this.

      September 7, 2010 at 9:02 am |
    • Kidada


      Thank you for your service and open mindedness.

      September 7, 2010 at 11:24 pm |
    • Anonymous

      CNN excerpt from Terms of Service ~ Good to read, Good to know

      Users are solely responsible for anything contained in their submissions, message board and/or chat sessions. CNN does not verify, endorse or otherwise vouch for the contents of any submission, message board or chat room. Users may be held legally liable for the contents of their submissions, message board and chat sessions, and may be held legally liable if their submissions or chat sessions include, for example, material protected by copyright, trademark, patent or trade secret law or other proprietary right without permission of the author or owner, or defamatory comments.

      September 9, 2010 at 5:01 am |
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