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September 10th, 2010
12:10 PM ET

Social conservatives mix faith and politics at conference

Washington (CNN) – At the Faith and Freedom conference and strategy briefing, social conservatives filed into Washington, DC’s Mayflower Hotel to hear from a who's who of conservative voices imploring them to stand by their values.

The group says on its website the goal of the conference was to "mobilize and train people of faith to be effective citizens" and "to speak out in the public arena and in the media on behalf of common-sense values." The event was put together by former head of the Christian Coalition, Ralph Reed.

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Filed under: Christianity • Church and state • Politics

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  1. Muneef

    @Crittir. Wonder about what we hear regarding human rights and human freedom of speech and expression that being purred down our heads and now when I am here just got here to be heard I am told not to be here?
     Heard few crying over why not being able to penetrate to some countries internet for hearing them out while practicing their rights of expression and speech and today I am here to do what i have been told to do I am told to stop, because I allowed my self to intervene commenting on your affairs, but every body else at yours has the right to mingle with our affairs as Arabs or  Muslims? I was brought here by the Florida Dove's Church man of God upon his threat to burn the Quran and what I found was that all here were cursing and few being moderate or defending and found that the majority who were cursing to be either atheists or similar while those defending were those of Heavenly faiths. Now you tell me this is not my place to Get up Stand up to defending my Holy Book my Religion my fellow brother and sisters at yours and the faithful one's too? If I can not and do not react with a comment or explanation that may lead readers to think and research for leads to have or reach the whole big picture? Isn't that what is this debate blog is all about?? But to tell me i cannot or shouldn't write and that the least that i should do!?
    Do not fancy the idea of living like the Three Wise Monkeys only slaves would do?? But if you insist then I would say, Lahwla Walaqwa Alla Bilah, and then thank you for helping me to know and understand that those things you call for are not possible and all just ink on paper,unreal and just was and is being used for what is called propaganda and that all we will harvest being over here are flags in the name of practicing your human rights or your freedom of speech. Thanks to you for helping me realize that and goodbye to the kind ones I came across through media and goodbye!?      

    September 26, 2010 at 6:04 pm |
  2. Muneef

    Just wonder what could have happened to this man,Georgia pastor Eddie Long in order to get him framed with such shameful stories if any thing he could have said that got them so mad would be any thing that is in favor of Islam or the intended mosque,only God knows.
    But he seems sure that he knew who if framing him and why and since those framing him seem to be big people in high positions that's why he gave example of him being David against Goliath and just wonder what could be those Five Stones he has in hand for those aimed against??? My personal feelings even if he had those shameful habits is why now and why not before, but what ever the case might be the only benefiters are those Anti-Religions who digging to shame all religions to compress it more in the ruling systems of the country.!?  

    September 26, 2010 at 2:42 pm |
  3. Muneef

    Lighthouses are more helpful than Churches”, Benjamin Franklin
    Let the Islamic center be built and become a lighthouse for planting respect and.peace among faiths and followers? 
    And since you are accusing Islam for the 9/11 then this islamic lighthouse should be built within ground zero area directing it's calls for peace between faiths and between nations it is to raise it's prayers on daily bases for those innocents who lost their lives and those who suffered in the 9/11 tragedy that Muslims out of all faiths and nations had suffered most from it's resulted chain reactions until today that had far exceeded the number of deaths and suffering of the 9/11 tragedy in NY,USA.  

    September 26, 2010 at 12:56 pm |
    • Muneef

      The number of Muslims in every nation that were globally pointed out might be correct, but the question here is, whether these numbers of Muslims are aware well about the teachings of Islam in the right way with out extremism ? Well can tell you that those are hard working people in a difficult and hard enviroments only to achieve their daily needs for bread and water and not concerned with politics or imposing their views on others. And those who were lucky enough to immigrate looking for a decent life and job as well not concerned with politics. Muslims in general if left alone with out your intervention might end up fighting each other due differences of views in their faith, but if west keep on applying pressure causing starvation, harassment and confrontation against Muslims and against their faith, this will only lead them to leave behind their differences and jointly or individually confront their enemies,those who wants to deprive them from their rights of faith and belief and the more they are pressed the more they would complain by reacting and not by words and cries since words and cries seem does not reach,heard or work out now a days since being their judges and executors are all of non religious such as atheists, infidels,polytheists who consider their vast interests above all humanity and faith issues such as mercy,leniency, compassion,pity,sympathy,kindness all that of human mutual heavenly code of conduct.!?       

      September 26, 2010 at 2:04 pm |
  4. Muneef

    Lighthouses are more helpful than Churches”, Benjamin Franklin
    Let the Islamic center be built and become a lighthouse for planting respect and.peace among faiths and followers?

    September 26, 2010 at 11:57 am |
  5. Reality

    Social conservatism- defined (depends on the country of origin)- Google citations

    Social conservatism is distinct from cultural conservatism, although there are some overlaps. Social conservatives believe that the government has a role in encouraging or enforcing what they consider traditional values or behaviors. A social conservative wants to preserve traditional morality and social mores, often through civil law or regulation. Social change is generally regarded as suspect.

    A second meaning of the term social conservatism developed in the Nordic countries and continental Europe. There it refers to liberal conservatives supporting modern European welfare states.

    Social conservatives (in the first meaning of the word) in many countries generally favor the pro-life position in the abortion controversy and oppose public funding of embryonic stem cell research; oppose both eugenics (inheritable genetic modification) and human enhancement (transhumanism) while supporting bioconservatism[44]; support a traditional definition of marriage as being one man and one woman; view the nuclear family model as society's foundational unit; oppose expansion of civil marriage and child adoption rights to couples in same-s-ex relationships; promote public morality and traditional family values; oppose secularism and privatization of religious belief; support the prohibition of drugs, prosti-tution, premarital s-ex, non-marital s-ex and euth-anasia; and support the censorship of por-n-ography and what they consider to be obs-cenity or ind-ecency.

    September 20, 2010 at 4:19 pm |
  6. Iqbal khan

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ8kG8wBG6Y&w=640&h=360]

    September 16, 2010 at 9:28 pm |
  7. Larry Linn

    I volunteered and joined the Army, and I served as an 11B Infantryman. Most of my time in the field was in squad or platoon size operations. We would have discussions about what we were fighting for. It always came back to the “Bill of Rights”. To me the most important was “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…”
    What did our Founding Fathers have to say about religion:
    "Question with boldness even the existence of a god." – Thomas Jefferson (letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787):
    "All natural institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit." Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason;
    "Religion and government will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.", John Madison;
    “Lighthouses are more helpful than Churches”, Benjamin Franklin

    September 10, 2010 at 9:15 pm |
    • peace2all

      @Larry Linn

      Thank you for your service.... and very well said. I have seen these quotes many times, and yet they still don't seem to convince the fundamentalists that there really 'should' be a separation of church and state forever. Period. End of discussion.

      Peace....

      September 13, 2010 at 1:21 am |
  8. Troy DeVoss

    I can't think of anything more anti-American than burning somone's book of faith. Islam is a religion and culture of peace, love, and inner beauty. Let peace, respect, and justice prevail for us all.

    September 10, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
  9. Kate

    @adams

    I re-read this whole comment section after your comment about it not being the call of Jesus, and I think I see what you're saying – don't confuse the teachings of the religion with the policies of the pract|tioners in question?

    If so, then I apologize for misunderstanding your point.

    Just sayin'

    September 10, 2010 at 4:59 pm |
  10. David Johnson

    Republicans are the party of rich, white men. They care nothing for the poor and middle class.

    If you don't want to be dictated to by the Christian Right, vote for the Dems in November!

    September 10, 2010 at 4:10 pm |
  11. Reality

    The Rule of Law and the Neither Influence:

    Why did today's social conservatives, pope, prelates, preachers and rabbis, so focused on society's s-exual sins, lose sight of clerical s-exual sins?

    FEAR, SHAME and GUILT and COVER IT ALL UP!!!

    Obviously ordination in any religion or membership in the Christian Coalition are not assurances of good behavior !!!!!

    Neither is coronation!!! e.g. Henry VIII, King David.

    Neither is marriage as 50% of those men convicted of p-ed-ophilia are married.

    Neither is being elected president of the USA!! e.g. Billy "I did not have se-x with that girl" Clinton, John "Marilyn Monroe" Kennedy"

    Neither is possessing super athletic skill!!! e.g. Tiger "I am so sorry for getting caught" Woods

    Neither is being an atheist or pagan since pe-dophilia is present in all walks of life

    If someone is guilty of a crime in this litany of "neithers" they should or should have been penalized as the democratic law dictates to include jail terms for ped-ophiliacs (priests, rabbis, evangelicals, boy scout leaders, married men/women), divorce for adultery (Clinton, Kennedy, Woods), jail terms for obstruction of justice (Clinton, Cardinal Law) and the death penalty or life in prison for murder ("Kings David and Henry VIII).

    September 10, 2010 at 3:38 pm | Report abuse | Reply

    September 10, 2010 at 3:40 pm |
    • gege

      Respect to king Henry VIII

      September 11, 2010 at 9:07 am |
  12. Reality

    The Rule of Law and the Neither Influence:

    Why did today's social conservatives, pope, prelates, preachers and rabbis, so focused on society's sexual sins, lose sight of clerical sexual sins?

    FEAR, SHAME and GUILT and COVER IT ALL UP!!!

    Obviously ordination in any religion or membership in the Christian Coalition are not assurances of good behavior !!!!!

    Neither is coronation!!! e.g. Henry VIII, King David.

    Neither is marriage as 50% of those men convicted of pedophilia are married.

    Neither is being elected president of the USA!! e.g. Billy "I did not have sex with that girl" Clinton, John "Marilyn Monroe" Kennedy"

    Neither is possessing super athletic skill!!! e.g. Tiger "I am so sorry for getting caught" Woods

    Neither is being an atheist or pagan since pedophilia is present in all walks of life

    If someone is guilty of a crime in this litany of "neithers" they should or should have been penalized as the democratic law dictates to include jail terms for pedophiliacs (priests, rabbis, evangelicals, boy scout leaders, married men/women), divorce for adultery (Clinton, Kennedy, Woods), jail terms for obstruction of justice (Clinton, Cardinal Law) and the death penalty or life in prison for murder ("Kings David and Henry VIII).

    September 10, 2010 at 3:38 pm |
    • gege

      Respects to King Henry VIII

      September 11, 2010 at 9:09 am |
  13. Kate

    Oh goodie

    Christian Sha'ria. That'd be sooo much better than Islamic Sha'ria!

    Not.

    Just sayin'

    September 10, 2010 at 1:08 pm |
    • adams

      theres no such thing as Christian sha'ria.

      just sayin.

      September 10, 2010 at 3:41 pm |
    • Kate

      @adams

      Just 'cos it don't use that name don't make it any different – or any more palatable.

      No theocratic governance in America, by any name. There shouldn't even be religious "litmus tests" of candidates for office.

      Just replyin'

      September 10, 2010 at 3:47 pm |
    • adams

      i dont want theocracy either. i'm saying that Jesus was urged by His followers to set up a theocracy and overthrow Roman occupation (as many would be messiahs attempted to do) and He refused because He said that His kingdom is not of this world. these political guys are promoting some diluted Christianity mixed with American stuff. so find another name for it, because there's no such thing as Christian Sha'ria.

      September 10, 2010 at 3:52 pm |
    • Kate

      @adams

      I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on this one. These "fundamentalist" politicians and social advocates base most of their ideals on a Christian nation on Old Testament scriptures – and that stuff is no different.

      They might not be foaming-at-the-mouth rabid pentecostals like Dove or Westboro Baptist Church, but can you truly say, in your heart of hearts, that should they get a foothold such groups wouldn't start imposing such things on the country?

      As an example, some of the people at Beck's rally sure would like to return to their idealistic impression of "the good old days" (though contrary to most who weren't there, I was, and will say right now that most of the people I saw were there for genuine concerns where religion wasn't a factor as far as I could tell)

      Anyone who mixes faith and politics the way these people want to is a danger to America.

      Just sayin'

      September 10, 2010 at 4:20 pm |
    • adams

      i guess we might have to disagree but what i'm saying is that this is their invention, not a call of Jesus.

      September 10, 2010 at 4:32 pm |
    • Kate

      @adams

      I re-read this whole comment section after your comment about it not being the call of Jesus, and I think I see what you're saying – don't confuse the teachings of the religion with the policies of the practitioners in question?

      If so, then I apologize for misunderstanding your point.

      Just sayin'

      September 10, 2010 at 4:59 pm |
  14. LooneyBin

    Ignorant, hateful bigot = "Social conservative"
    Serial killing psychopath = "Habitual human euthanizer"

    September 10, 2010 at 1:06 pm |
  15. Reality

    The Coalition of Truth about Religion:

    Abraham founder/father of three major religions was either the embellishment of the lives of three different men or a
    mythical character as was mythical Moses, the "Tablet-Man" who talked to burning bushes and made much magic in Egypt.
    Many of the 1.5 million Conservative Jews and many of their rabbis have relegated Abraham to the myth pile along with most if not all the OT.

    query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F20E1EFE35540C7A8CDDAA0894DA404482

    2. Jesus was an illiterate Jewish peasant/carpenter/simple preacher man who suffered from hallucinations and who has been characterized anywhere from the Messiah from Nazareth to a mythical character from mythical Nazareth to a mamzer from Nazareth (Professor Bruce Chilton, in his book Rabbi Jesus). Analyses of Jesus’ life by many contemporary NT scholars (e.g. Professors Crossan, Borg and Fredriksen) via the NT and related doc-uments have concluded that only about 30% of Jesus' sayings and ways noted in the NT were authentic. The rest being embellishments (e.g. miracles)/hallucinations made/had by the NT authors to impress various Christian, Jewish and Pagan sects.

    The 30% of the NT that is "authentic Jesus" like everything in life was borrowed/plagiarized and/or improved from those who came before. In Jesus' case, it was the ways and sayings of the Babylonians, Greeks, Persians, Egyptians, Hit-ti-tes, Canaanites, OT, John the Baptizer and possibly the ways and sayings of traveling Greek Cynics.
    earlychristianwritings.com/theories.html

    For added "pizz-azz", Catholic theologians divided god the singularity into three persons and invented atonement as an added guilt trip for the "pew people" to go along with this trinity of overseers. By doing so, they made god the padre into god the "fil-icider".

    Current problems:

    Pedo-ph-iliac priests, an all-male, mostly white hierarchy, atonement theology and original sin!!!!

    3. Luther, Calvin, Joe Smith, Henry VIII, Wesley, Roger Williams, the Great “Babs” et al, founders of Christian-based religions or combination religions also suffered from the belief in/hallucinations of "pretty wingie thingie" visits and "prophecies" for profits analogous to the myths of Catholicism (resurrections, apparitions, ascensions and immaculate conceptions).

    Current problems:

    Adulterous preachers, "propheteering/ profiteering" evangelicals and atonement theology,

    4. Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

    This agenda continues as shown by the massacre in Mumbai, the assassinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

    And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

    Current crises:

    The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

    September 10, 2010 at 12:51 pm |
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