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October 8th, 2010
11:22 AM ET

Rabbi: Why evangelical Christians give millions to Israel

CNN's Izzy Lemberg filed this report from Jerusalem:

In the last 12 months, the evangelical Christian community in the United States has given $100 million to charitable causes in Israel, according to Rabbi Yechiel Eckstein, Founder and President of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews.

Eckstein made his comments this week at a soup kitchen his evangelical group funds in Jerusalem’s Mahane Yehuda market, situated in one of the city's underprivileged neighbourhoods.

It was the first stop in a press tour the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews organized to highlight their activities.

Next on the itinerary was a Jewish religious school for girls, where the mostly evangelical organization funds educational programs aimed at helping Ethiopian immigrants integrate into Israeli society. Jerusalem is one of 160 Israeli cities in which the organization is active.

The group's 200 active projects have been supported by contributions from 350,000 mostly evangelical donors in the last year, Eckstein said, and the group's broader donor list numbers nearly one million. The average donation is $77.

Why do evangelical Christians would be so devoted to Israel’s welfare? According to Eckstein, who has nurtured the relationship between Christians and Jews since he founded the group in 1983, it’s all in the Bible.

“God promises Abraham those who bless Israel and the Jewish people will be blessed and those who curse them will be cursed," he says, citing Genesis.

But it is not only that religious commandment that is motivating this very large segment of American society.

Evangelicals see the creation of Israel in 1948 as the fulfilment of biblical prophesy, Eckstein says.

”The Jewish narrative are the same prophesies that Christian turn to... about the day when the Jewish people scattered around the world would be gathered into the Land of Israel," he says. "I believe in that and millions of other Jews believe that 1948 and the birth of the state of Israel was a miracle. It reflects the hand of God."

The International Fellowship of Christians and Jews have identified three main aims of their work, which they say have biblical roots. The Bible speaks of the scattered Jewish people returning to Israel "on the wings of eagles," so the group contributes to chartering planes that bring immigrants to Israel.

Scripture commands that the hungry be fed and the naked clothed, so the group gives to needy Jews around the world, most notably in the former Soviet Union, where it says it assists 100,000 people.

And the group says there's biblical concept of being “Guardians of Israel,” which it says it promotes by helping construct bomb shelters in towns along Israel northern border with Lebanon and the southern town of Sderot near the border with the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.

The relationship is not without its controversies. The former mayor of Jerusalem, who is ultra-Orthodox, refused to accept funds from evangelical Christians because he suspected a secret agenda to engage in missionary activities among Israel’s Jews.

Current Jerusalem Mayor Nir Barkat has revoked the policy. But the majority ultra-Orthodox municipality of Bnei Brak, near Tel Aviv, will not accept evangelical donations. Eckstein says that evangelizing Jews is not his group's goal.

Some evangelicals are opposed to his group because it refuses to proselytize, he says.

In the United States, relations between evangelicals and American Jews has often been tense. American Jews overwhelmingly vote Democrat, and polls show that most hold liberal political views, especially on domestic issues.

This often results in the two communities being on opposite sides of hot issues like abortion or school prayers.

But Eckstein says that those tensions have largely eased.

“There are those within the Jewish community, especially in the earlier years, who were very concerned about the influence of... Jerry Falwell, Pat Roberson, the Christian right," he says.

"Those Jewish concerns have been allayed over the years," he continues. "... (Jews) realize that these people are genuine, they are not doing it for some conditional reason and that it's not just all based on the rapture, and eschatology, but it is based on their love for Israel and the Jewish people."

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Israel • Judaism • Middle East • Money & Faith

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  1. Iqbal khan

    The opening, this surah have to be recited in every prayer at least 27 times in 5 prayers in 24 hours
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    October 9, 2010 at 11:27 pm |
    • Brett Favre's fan (a.k.a. ybs)

      Don't know about you but I'd rather learn how to get the most out of beating off than the Quran!

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      October 10, 2010 at 4:25 pm |
  2. Richard McDonough

    The Christians are heavily into death and resurrection, thus their view of Israel as the final place of destruction that will bring the "End Time" and their first big plane ride. I find it repellant and ugly. If there is some good for the poor and the needy and the uneducated because of their sickness, neat, but, for chrissake, I might say in an old vernacular, it is, in the end psychologically disturbing.

    October 9, 2010 at 10:18 pm |
  3. Iqbal khan

    Check this
    http://worldmuslimcongress.blogspot.com/

    October 9, 2010 at 5:05 pm |
    • Brett Favre's fan (a.k.a. ybs)

      Don't know about you but I'd rather learn how to get the most out of beating off than the Quran!

      Do you beat off? If you have balls, follow me on twitter & let me know, MF! 🙂

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      October 10, 2010 at 4:27 pm |
  4. Iqbal khan

    The Three prophets One Message
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    October 9, 2010 at 5:00 pm |
    • Brett Favre's fan (a.k.a. ybs)

      Don't know about you but I'd rather learn how to get the most out of beating off than the Quran!

      Do you beat off? 🙂

      If you have balls, follow me on twitter & let me know, MF! 🙂

      http://bit.ly/twitterybs

      October 10, 2010 at 4:26 pm |
  5. David Johnson

    Bored now. Back later.

    October 9, 2010 at 2:55 pm |
  6. David Johnson

    @tagna

    Wasn't your question: "Do you think ending religion; will rid the world of all insanity and hatred?"

    My answer to this was:
    I think religion is the root of all evil, edging out money. I don't think ridding the world of religion will remove all insanity and hatred. But, even a journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step.

    If this is not your question, post it again.

    What is your proof of god? Faith in something does not make it real. I pointed this out in my previous comment.

    Your saying, "There is to an afterlife", does not impress me much. I can counter this easily, with, "There is not!".

    Have you ever died? I mean, brain death? If not, then how do you know there is an afterlife? 'Cause your bible tell you so? As NL pointed out, the bible talks about unicorns and satyrs and talking snakes. Do you have any of those for show and tell?

    Do you have any proof that anything in the bible is true?

    Do you think maybe, your bible is no more true than Harry Potter? Chock full of myths and made up stuff?

    October 9, 2010 at 2:50 pm |
  7. JohnQuest

    tagnga, are you saying that there is a God, if there is, are you saying that you understand it?

    October 9, 2010 at 12:39 pm |
  8. tagnga

    To David Johnson;
    You stated; “You are a poser. We all fear death. It is hardwired into us.” And “There is no afterlife. No heaven. No hell. No god. Cheers!
    Most Christians want to live as long as possible in this life, but true Christians do not fear death. And “cheers”, because there is an afterlife.

    You didn’t answer my questions or prove anything with your statements other than you have no understanding or concept of faith in God and you’re spending most of your time looking for proof that God does not exist. You can’t see the forest, for the trees.

    October 9, 2010 at 10:44 am |
    • NL

      tagnga-
      In your forrest are there only trees and animals, or do you think there might be unicorns and satyrs there too?

      October 9, 2010 at 12:40 pm |
  9. tagnga

    “That was my biggest fear when George W. was in the White House. What if he decided to bring Jesus back...” “I am more scared of the Religious zealots, than I could ever be of Freddy Kruger or Jason.” “truly F******* scary..! “Think about the fact that somebody has their finger near a red button that could wipe out millions, possibly billions of people, and that person just might feel strongly in an afterlife, a rapture, a heaven and hell so to pull that trigger”…

    All this living in fear that the Atheists display must be an incredible burden to bear, but I would be scared too, if I didn’t believe in an afterlife. Faith is the opposite of fear. and by the way, Christians Do love the Jewish people – no ulterior motive.

    Religion is not the problem – corruption, is. (To John Quest); Who would “end” religion? To believers, faith is the fiber of their being. How do you really think the world would be better off without it? Do you want it to end, because you don’t believe? Do you think ending religion; will rid the world of all insanity and hatred? I don’t think so.

    October 8, 2010 at 10:27 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @tagnga

      You said, "Religion is not the problem – corruption, is. (To John Quest); Who would “end” religion? To believers, faith is the fiber of their being. How do you really think the world would be better off without it? Do you want it to end, because you don’t believe? Do you think ending religion; will rid the world of all insanity and hatred? I don’t think so."

      Hmm...If there is no Santa Claus, would you want the world to believe he exists? Would you want believers to stand outside, staring up at the sky, waiting for Santa's return? What if they had been staring and predicting for oh say, 2000 years? Wouldn't you want, at some point, to say: "Dudes! Santa is dead. He isn't coming back."

      I think religion is the root of all evil, edging out money. I don't think ridding the world of religion will remove all insanity and hatred. But, even a journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step.

      Tell me this: If there was no god, how would the world be different? Would disasters, that kill thousands happen? Would disease kill and maim? Would children fill cancer wards? Would impoverished 3rd World mothers give birth to babies who will suffer and die? Ans. – There would be no difference.

      If there is no difference between god and no god, then what good is god?

      Cheers!

      October 8, 2010 at 11:16 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @tagnga

      You said, "All this living in fear that the Atheists display must be an incredible burden to bear, but I would be scared too, if I didn’t believe in an afterlife. Faith is the opposite of fear. "

      Faith – The belief in something for which there is no proof.

      Umm....What makes you different from the Muslim who blows himself up, believing in an afterlife full of pleasures?

      Do you think he will get his 72 virgins? He has faith he will. Does his faith make it so? Does yours?

      Your argument is trash. Having faith that something is true, does not mean it is real.

      Do you buckle your seatbelt when you travel? Do you come indoors when it is lightening? Do you go to the doctor?

      If a shooter wandered into your place of work would you duck?

      Why would you burden yourself with self-preservation? You have faith. You believe in an afterlife.

      You are a poser. We all fear death. It is hardwired into us.

      There is no afterlife. No heaven. No hell. No god. Cheers!

      and by the way, Christians Do love the Jewish people – no ulterior motive.

      October 8, 2010 at 11:34 pm |
    • Ahmad Hosein

      Without religion, atheists would have wiped out the human race thousands of years ago. See Hitler and Stalin for a precise example of what I am talking about. Thank God religion is firmly entrenched in mankind in the 21st century with the rise and prominance of atheism. Otherwise, we would all be doomed.

      October 9, 2010 at 2:36 am |
    • Reality

      Ahmad, Ahmad, Ahmad,

      First, the phrase "Do no Harm" easily replaces all religions.

      And in case you missed it, we offer you our Five Steps to Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

      Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

      "1. Belief in Allah"

      aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your cleansing neurons.

      "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

      Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

      "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

      A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

      "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

      Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

      Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

      Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

      "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."

      Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave attended to by his wives before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

      Accept these five "cleansers" and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

      October 9, 2010 at 7:42 am |
  10. Jochebed

    “God promises Abraham those who bless Israel and the Jewish people will be blessed and those who curse them will be cursed," he says, citing Genesis. – except that an earthly government established by a secular decree is NOT the nation of Israel. Yes, we should support Israel, as in all the Jews all over the world, but that is not the same thing as the current nation of Israel.

    October 8, 2010 at 10:07 pm |
  11. Jochebed

    "Why evangelical Christians give millions to Israel"? – because they don't read their Bible. Plain and simple.

    October 8, 2010 at 10:03 pm |
  12. Dani3l

    Evangelical Christians can support any charities they like. But why does the U.S. Government give millions of dollars to Israel? What have they ever done for us? Buy weapons?

    October 8, 2010 at 8:56 pm |
    • Jochebed

      Let's not forget that we support the other side as well. We have our dirty little hands in both pots.

      October 8, 2010 at 10:04 pm |
    • Ahmad Hosein

      The Israe lis provide US with valuable hard intelligence on the middle east oil nations in exchange for all the billions of dollars of weapons systems they get for free from USA.

      October 9, 2010 at 2:33 am |
    • jon

      Shhot us up with our own weapons.... (USS Liberty)

      October 9, 2010 at 11:29 pm |
  13. Reallythough

    76.103.37.86

    October 8, 2010 at 5:56 pm |
  14. Reality

    Guess what, Guess What, 1 Timothy 1-6 was not written by Paul but by a pseudo Paul. And since said pseudo Paul never got knocked off a horse by "god", he/she has no credence.

    To wit:

    Most contemporary NT exegetes believe after exhaustive research that the epistles to Timothy (and T-itus) were not written by Paul but by pseudo/"wannabee" Pauls. See Father Ray Brown's analyses in his 878 page book, An Introduction to the New Testament pp. 639, 654, 673,

    an excerpt:

    "Authenticity: Probably written by a disciple of Paul or a sympathetic commentator of the Pauline heritage several decades after the apostle's death. "

    See also Professors Crossan and Reed's book, In Search of Paul and Professor Bruce Chilton's book, Rabbi Paul.

    And Paul (or his pseudo/"wannabees") the Prophet? Hardly, he could not even get the timing of Jesus' second coming correct but it did serve to dramatically increase both the conversion rate and the coffers. Hmmm, contemporary preachers/fortune tellers/Mormon "profiteers" still use that con game.

    October 8, 2010 at 4:34 pm |
    • JohnQuest

      Reality, I think you are wasting your time Guess What is only going to think that you are the devil, I am sure that what he/she thinks of me. Fortunately the devil is no more real that his father God.

      October 8, 2010 at 4:57 pm |
    • Ahmad Hosein

      hopefully nobody on here is so stupid as to think the devil is as retarded as Reality!

      October 9, 2010 at 2:32 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Ahmad Hosein

      No, REALITY is certainly not retarded. He actually cites references with his posts. And REALITY doesn't need to stoop so low, as to make redi culous, idiotic personal attacks on someone to get his point across.

      Do you understand what my point is to YOU ... Ahmad Hosein...?

      Oh, and by the way.... there is 'no devil.' Well, wait a minute.... I can think of a few ex-girlfriends... but, surely I am digressing here.

      October 9, 2010 at 4:51 am |
  15. Guess What?

    1 But the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron,

    3. On the whole observe, (1.) The apostasy of the latter times should not surprise us, because it was expressly foretold by the Spirit. (2.) The Spirit is God, otherwise he could not certainly foresee such distant events, which as to us are uncertain and contingent, depending on the tempers, humours, and lusts of men. (3.) The difference between the predictions of the Spirit and the oracles of the heathen is remarkable; the Spirit speaks expressly, but the oracles of the heathen were always doubtful and uncertain. (4.) It is comfortable to think that in such general apostasies all are not carried away, but only some. (5.) It is common for seducers and deceivers to pretend to the Spirit, which is a strong presumption that all are convinced that this is the most likely to work in us an approbation of what pretends to come from the Spirit. (6.) Men must be hardened, and their consciences seared, before they can depart from the faith, and draw in others to side with them. (7.) It is a sign that men have departed from the faith when they will command what God has forbidden

    So, you lose!

    October 8, 2010 at 3:51 pm |
    • JohnQuest

      Do you really believe what you are writing, consider the following, if you grow up in a Muslim household you would be a devout Muslim, or Jew, Hindu, Buddhist, you get the picture. By "(6.) Men must be hardened, and their consciences seared, before they can depart from the faith, and draw in others to side with them", if you mean once we wise up and are able to read the holy books by ourselves, think for ourselves and view the world as it is and not as a 2000 year text tells us it is then I would agree.

      The problem I have with this is, none a single sentence make any sense, what predictions are you referring to, during the times of Christ most people thought he was a joke, it is not a stretch of the imagination to say that most people would reject such nonsense, I think the original writers are laughing in their graves at how gullible you all are. And to think that men are killing each other over this nonsense is truly frightening. I take it that God did not foresee all the millions of lives lost in his name or he couldn't or wouldn't stop either way what kind of God is he? I don't blame God for the follies of man, how could I (there is no God to blame, although it would be easier if we had something other than human passions to blame for human misery).

      October 8, 2010 at 4:54 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @Guess What

      Thank you for being the 'poster-child' for exactly what Me, David Johnson, NL, JohnQuest, and ScottK are worried about. The 'End of Days' people that are looking forward to the 'rapture'.

      Bring it on 'now' baby..! Seems to be you and your kinds' motto. Please don't tell me that you are a lawyer, politician, teacher, and/or have a back-ground in 'nuclear physics.'.... Yikes..!!!

      October 9, 2010 at 4:12 am |
  16. peace2all

    Yeah..... No hidden agendas by the fundamentalist christian right wing.

    That's the funny thing about 'prophecy'.... Some, especially believers will do everything they can to bring about and fulfill their desired prophecy to prove themselves right.

    And the fact that some, I believe if world war broke out, would see it as *the sign* of the rapture being near, and begin to salivate as the peaceful Jesus is now coming as a warrior to send the 'unrighteous' to hell.

    Yeah.... this is definitely a bit scary. And when you had to the fact of having someone in politics that actually believes this cr@P, with their finger on the 'button'..... Then it gets even scarier. Why are the christians not giving 100 million to groups in africa...?

    Yes, I may be generalizing here.. I realize that, and own it, but this kind of stuff of believing in biblical prophecy seems to me that someone will want to 'hurry it up' a bit.

    And, that goes for the radical muslims by the way. The radical ones seem to have no problem with going to paradise now.

    Peace...

    October 8, 2010 at 3:12 pm |
    • ScottK

      Think about the fact that somebody has their finger near a red button that could wipe out millions, possibly billions of people, and that person just might feel strongly in an afterlife, a rapture, a heaven and hell so to pull that trigger they are just moving people on to what they have decided is the next phase of humanity, not murder. That is what kind of danger any and all religions pose to humanity. We need to either ban all weapons or ban all organized religions to have any semblance of peace.

      October 8, 2010 at 6:07 pm |
    • peace2all

      @ScottK

      I think you just re-iterated what I posted..... unless you are making a finer 'distinction' that I missed...?

      October 8, 2010 at 6:13 pm |
    • Israel Returns

      The fact is God is still going to deal with Israel the proof far out weighs the skeptics

      November 10, 2010 at 9:02 pm |
  17. David Johnson

    The Dome of the Rock is located at the visual center of a platform known as the Temple Mount, which Muslims refer to as the "Noble Sanctuary(Bait-ul-Muqaddas)". It was constructed as part of the Islamization of the Temple Mount on the site of the Second Jewish Temple which was destroyed during the Roman Siege of Jerusalem in 70 CE. Source: Wikipedia

    The Christians need the Jews to tear down the Mosque of Omar, so the Jewish Temple can be rebuilt. This, the Christians believe, is necessary for Jesus to return.

    Christians call Jews who have accepted Jesus, Perfected Jews. Hmmmm.....

    The temple is the reason Christians have such an interest in Jewish wellbeing.

    Don't be fooled the Christian Right. They want Jesus to come back so bad, they can taste it. They are bigots.

    You really want these bigots to run this country? Vote for the Dems in November.

    Also, for my religious friends: Jesus isn't returning. He has a prior engagement – Death.

    October 8, 2010 at 2:14 pm |
    • JohnQuest

      Sounds insane but I believe you are right, the only way to in this ridiculous concept is to end religion.

      October 8, 2010 at 3:12 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @peace2all

      You said, "Yeah.... this is definitely a bit scary. And when you had to the fact of having someone in politics that actually believes this cr@P, with their finger on the 'button'..... "

      That was my biggest fear when George W. was in the White House. What if he decided to bring Jesus back...

      I am more scared of the Religious zealots, than I could ever be of Freddy Kruger or Jason.

      October 8, 2010 at 4:24 pm |
    • peace2all

      @David Johnson

      Yep.... we are definitely in agreement on this... truly F******* scary..!

      October 8, 2010 at 6:15 pm |
    • Peter

      David,
      In 2008, the Rep could not find a healthy younger man to lead, so in came McCain and there was no brighter lady than Sarah Palin in the whole Rep camp. This woman lied and lied but she realized 2 things . (1) Evangelicals,the more conservative the more dumb ...so easy to hoodwink.. (2) Politic gives you a platform to propel to stardom therefore ...money..money ...money in the bank. Christine O'Donnell (equally dumb) saw this ..and wallah , instant wealth .. Now my friend it has got nothing to do with politic or being staunch evengelical . ITS PERSONAL POPULARITY AND WEALTH.
      I am from Singapore and I can see Alaska from here.

      October 10, 2010 at 11:28 am |
  18. Reality

    Some "skinnies" about the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews: (guidestar.org)

    Rabbi Eckstein, the founder, pays himself somewhere between $600,000 to $700,000/yr from the donations to the group depending on what lines on the IRS Form 990 is used. Said "non-profit" spent $11 million dollars for media advertising, $7 million on mailings an $1 million on lobbying in 2009. The group has $3 million invested in the stock/bond market. They (Eckstein) lost over $1.5 million in said market in 2008.

    So as with many "non-profits", is the founder, Rabbi Eckstein, really interested in doing good works or is he more interested in using his "non-profit" as a way to have a comfortable life style helping his friends in the media and mailings businesses in the process??

    October 8, 2010 at 1:40 pm |
  19. NL

    He didn't mention all the tourist dollars that Christians spend every year visiting the Holy Land. Mayor Barkat knows what side his city's bread is buttered on.

    Remember The Sopranos episode Fleshy Part of the Thigh? Hesh's wife says that evangelicals are friends of the Jews, and Hesh says, "You wait." Yup, they play friends now, but at the second coming the Jews are expected to convert, or else.

    October 8, 2010 at 1:33 pm |
    • Selfish Gene

      Maybe they are just stupid and think Israel cares at all what they desire? Israel likes money. US money. Lots of free money.
      So does Mexico.

      October 8, 2010 at 1:54 pm |
    • NL

      Oh, I'm sure that Israel isn't going to do anything to disrupt the popular American notion that Israel is a necessary stepping stone to Jesus' return. Makes it a lot smoother getting aid and arms shipments to Israel approved.

      Kinda reminds me of the joke about the Chinese man who did not deny the assumption that all Chinese know Kung Fu. Why correct somebody's mistake about you when it has such an obvious benefit?

      October 8, 2010 at 3:29 pm |
  20. JohnQuest

    I thought the Evang elical Christian Community was waiting for Israel to be destroyed to foster the second coming of their God? It appears that they are only helping to fulfill a prophesy, if that is the case the Evang elical Christians have an ultreia motive and the safety and longevity of Israel is the contrary of their ultimate plan.

    October 8, 2010 at 11:55 am |
    • JohnQuest

      ultreia motive = ulterior motive

      October 8, 2010 at 11:56 am |
    • dutchblitz1

      It is Iran that wants Israel to be destroyed to hasten the coming of the Mahdi. Many evangelical Christians strongly support Israel out of a genuine love for Jews and for Israel, not out of any ulterior motive.

      October 8, 2010 at 1:14 pm |
    • JohnQuest

      dutchblitz1, I think the New Testament can be read to suggest that only after Israel is put asunder will the Messiah return to fulfill all the things he failed to fulfill the first time around. (Why would God need a second chance is beyond me).

      October 8, 2010 at 2:26 pm |
    • peace2all

      @JohnQuest

      Well said...

      Peace..

      October 8, 2010 at 3:32 pm |
    • sheetiron

      Actually thats not the case. The Bible says that the Kingdom will be restored to Israel, not that it will be destroyed. People will attempt to destroy Israel, but God will protect Israel in that event.

      October 8, 2010 at 4:02 pm |
    • ScottK

      Regardless of what the bible says about Iseal's future, the fact that so many people believe that the re-founding of Isreal in 1948 was an act of God and not an act of self-fulfilling prophecy is scary. Elected representatives in the US making public policy and awarding multi-billion dollar weapons deals with Isreal based upon their biblical beliefs is just plain insane. To choose sides in a war between Zion & Islam thats been raging off and on for nearly 3000 years based on personal religious leanings is just moronic.

      October 8, 2010 at 5:51 pm |
    • Trudy

      Oh my goodness. This is not true at all. I think the love "true" Christians have for Jews is supernatural and comes from God. You don't understand how God works if you think Christians have to "make" something happen. The bible clearly tells what the future is for Israel and Christians have been moved by the spirit to help Jews return to their land and flourish. As well, we care about the fact that Israel and the Jews have endured this supernatural, illogical hatred from the rest of mankind over the millenia.

      October 9, 2010 at 4:33 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Trudy

      Do you also believe in interpreting the bible literally, as in the 'end of days' kind of thing.....?

      October 9, 2010 at 4:42 am |
    • art keyes

      this is really for all, there are christians that believe in replacement theology but the ones that read the bible as GOD's unerring truth read in the book of rom. 11 that we are not to get arrogant with people GOD has plans for . I do want the rapture and I do wantthe return of the messiah but GOD wants the christians to comfort(Isa. 40) and to pray(ps.122) for the peace of jerusalem.
      I and others that think this way are only trying to do what our LORD has asked of us. GOD bless you and keep you!

      October 9, 2010 at 1:10 pm |
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The CNN Belief Blog covers the faith angles of the day's biggest stories, from breaking news to politics to entertainment, fostering a global conversation about the role of religion and belief in readers' lives. It's edited by CNN's Daniel Burke with contributions from Eric Marrapodi and CNN's worldwide news gathering team.