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October 8th, 2010
06:28 PM ET
Mormon leader's comments on homosexuality provoke protestsEditor's Note: CNN Salt Lake City affiliate KSTU has this report about a protest outside the headquarters of the Mormon Church. Thousands of gay activists held a silent protest outside the headquarters of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Thursday. The protestors expressed outrage to comments made by church leader Elder Boyd K. Packer saying homosexuality is an immoral condition that can and should be overcome. Packer, president of the church's Quorum of Twelve Apostles, made the comments Sunday during a semiannual conference.
Activists at the protest said the remarks are hurtful and could lead some gay Mormons to suicide. "Our message is very simple. It's hate speech equal LGBT suicides," said Eric Ethington, Pride in Utah blogger and organizer of the event. "You can not tell kids for their entire lives there is something wrong with them." Ethington organized the event using the social networking site Facebook. He said his event staff counted nearly 4,500 participants involved in the protest, who all wore black in symbolism of the loss of gay Mormons to suicide. The protestors all laid down, forming a human chain surrounding the Church's headquarters and Temple Square. Several activists said the suicides are growing within the LGBT community. "This last September there were three confirmed suicides among LGBT youth in Utah," said Creig Neilson, leader of gay rights organization, the Trevor Project. "In Utah this last weekend there was another one. When these brothers and sisters take their lives, it's because they think that there's no other answer, I understand. When ending your life becomes the better answer, or the better solution, something is wrong." The LDS Church released a statement in response to the protest saying, "Of course, the Church recognizes the right of groups to voice their opinion in the public square. However, those familiar with the Church's doctrine on the importance of marriage and family know it is based on principles of respect and love for all of God's children."
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Hey David Johnson, My daughter has been to the Temple several times, Yes, admitted without your so called garments. You have no idea what you are talking about so keep your opinions and what you here on the internet to yourself. You are making yourself out to be a liar. And I agree with the last statement from D-dog, if you do not like our church, go find another, it is still a free country unless Obama gets elected again and does more damage.
It would seem that the attacks on the Mormon church for their beliefs is pretty childish on the gay communities part. All I hear from my friends is gay rights this and gay rights that, but heaven forbid rights for anyone else's beliefs. Mormons can say what they want. Its a right that they have. I don't see why so many people have gotten so bent over this. Welcome to America. If you don't like what they preach or any Christian church for that matter you might want to start with some how dethroning their God. Good Luck!
@maddy, @cxsmitty, @Katie Murphy, @tony, @Frank, @David Johnson, @Kate, @Reality, @Acroyear, @TheRationale, and a host of others on both sides...
Huh?
When this discussion started, it was in reference to whether or not Boyd Packer should have made the remarks he made concerning gays. I do not agree with his comments, but the comments were made to Mormons at a Mormon conference in which the beliefs of their church were being discussed. He was stating a Mormon belief. Now it is up to Mormons to decide whether or not they agree with his statements and other tenets of the LSD religion and act accordingly.
The Catholic Church issues its proclamations frequently. Catholics who can't accept the beliefs have left the church. This holds true for many religions. Mormons, too, can be true to their personal beliefs.
It is doubtful that any of us are going to change the beliefs of any religion –particularly through name-calling or Koran burning or even scientific logic. What can we do? As suggested above, we can be examples of "good, moral people" even though we belong to no religious group. We can make sure to show our support for females who are repressed and those treated as possessions. We can be supportive to the the gay community ...how many of us tell jokes that put down gays?; how many of us (or our children) show disdain of something by calling it Gay?
We're asking that gays be allowed to live their lives as they wish while being respected by others. Shouldn't we be giving respect to others even though we don't agree with their beliefs?
Trish, I'm a B and a T (when it comes to being LGBT) and Catholic but I'm not about to leave the Church over that. That would be silly. Everyone has their issues and struggles to deal with.
Boy what a bunch of hypocrits. The LDS church should really think before it speaks
Mormons are freaks, how dare they try to claim gays are evil when they think wearing secret panties and having multiple wives will get them to heaven.
The problem is people in general are stupid and they believe this crap, mormons are followers and not leaders they are not free thinkers. Now im going to stop writing so i can go put some panties on and wait for that spaceship to take me to heaven so I can be with all of my wives.
FREAKS!!!!!!
Were you part of the mob that killed mormons?
Mike, that was mean, rude and out of bounds but lol.
David Johnson
@The Force
Calling names and declaring I smell, even over the internet, is not a good argument. That was hurtful. But, I forgive you.
What are your thoughts? What are your arguments for there being a god? Did you read Maybe's comments? He is totally right. Think for a while. Pray to your god. Then see if you and He can come up with a decent argument for His existence.
Cheers!
I prayed, he is more concerned about your existence...we decided we would keep praying for you. Miracles still happen!!
And the winner is...
@ The Force
Good christian! Now, sit...stay.
No thanks, I'll pass. Unlike you, I have a Master already!!
And the winner is...
@ D. Johnson and Grist
Wonderful! There is comfort in know that the good fight goes on.
Marx said religion is the opium of the masses. It is published in a book with as much good faith and truth and accuracy as the bible. If the bible is to be committed as law and guidance then so follows Marx equally. And if opium is illegal shouldn't religion be as well.
There is as much if not more factually basis for Marx's arguments as the LDS argument for unnatural tendencies.
The basis for our society and government, the Greeks and Romans, had no problem with any persons bedroom behaviors or preferences perhaps we still have much to learn before we claim to be the 'light' of the first-world nations.
What fight? If you were so comfortable with your non belief, you would not need to fight anyone or anything.
@Mayby
you left out the first part
You would not have what you have today. There is perfect rhythm in the world, that causes seasons, sunrise, sunsets, which effects vegetation, and many other things. There is an order in the universe and in the world, without it Earth would not exist as it does today
TheForce,
The first part is no more valid than the rest. Perfect rhythm? How about at lease 5 major Ice Ages and many smaller ones that have caused great disruption of life on Earth? How about the clouds from volcanic eruptions which have caused "years without summers" (or springs). How many areas on Earth are uninhabitable to humans? The sun doesn't even rise at the poles for many months each year. My statement stands: What works, works; and what doesn't work, doesn't. We adapt... or not.
*least (instead of lease)
LOL How funny! I was quoting back at David Johnson.....
David Johnson
@TheForce
MadPanda beat me to an answer. Most of your comment was trash. Cheers!
Most of your comment was trash...so I assume Frank, you are speaking to David here
Obviously.
@ D. Johnson and Grist
Wonderful! There is comfort in know that the good fight goes on.
Marx said religion is the opium of the masses. It is published in a book with as much good faith and truth and accuracy as the bible. If the bible is to be committed as law and guidance then so follows Marx equally. And if opium is illegal shouldn't religion be as well.
There is as much if not more factually basis for Marx's arguments as the LDS argument for unnatural tendencies.
The basis for our society and government, the Greeks and Romans, had no problem with any persons bedroom behaviors or preferences perhaps we still have much to learn before we claim to be the 'light' of the first-world nations.
Yes I am aware of the spelling and grammar issues Theists. Please find something more intellectual to argue.
"The basis for our society and government, the Greeks and Romans, had no problem with any persons bedroom behaviors or preferences"
Yes, they did. They had a bunch of codes and customs just like we do. Put down the Communist Manifesto and Das Kapital and go read a REAL history book.