October 15th, 2010
03:03 PM ET
Carla Bruni banned from the Vatican
It's not often a former model and pop singer gets scratched from a guest list. But earlier this month French first lady Carla Bruni-Sarkozy was warned to stay away from the Vatican – by the Pope himself.
Ahead of President Sarkozy's 30-minute audience with the Pontiff earlier this month, Vatican officials sent the French ambassador a message saying: "Carla Sarkozy is not welcome in the Vatican."
The message, which led her to stay in Paris, is said to be over the Pope's fears that more racy photographs of her days as a catwalk model would emerge.
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Ha ha! What am implausible story, and funny to see how CNN and all its readers fell for it. Just goes to show how we don't care to check sources when something stokes our prejudices (the prejudice against the Vatican, in this case, which runs to believe anything said about it, and believes it all the more easily the sillier it is). This "story" was started in a satirical magazine, to begin with. And the Vatican meets with all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons. What silliness to believe this hogwash. Check your sources: http://liveshots.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/10/15/carla-bruni-banned-from-vatican-not-really/
This certainly tends to make me speculate just what a background check report could possibly show you.
Textbook example of the intolerance that religious dogma inevitably breeds.
THOU SHALT BE ASHAMED OF THY NATURAL ANATOMY!
Lol. I'm Catholic but I can still laugh at that.
Why can't the Vatican forgive Carla Bruni for her past. She was only modeling clothing not molesting boys or girls. I thought God was a forgiving God!
Nope. He is punishing us for existing and hiding any proof of his own. Forgiveness is a human trait.
President Zarkozy shud have refused to go w/o his wife and The Vatican can be accused of violating their marital vows and coming between a wonderful married couple. Oo!La!La! I thought the French were more valiant than to bow down to a Prada-wearing red shoes pope.
His holiness could wash his hands afterwards. He is used to doing that anyways isn't he?
Lol. She wouldn't be helping out at Mass.
This is totally hypocritical! Does the church have no more room for "sinners" or just room to hide sin?
With free access to any child he wants, and numerous church laws to hide behind when he and his minions are done bu-gg-ering them, why would pope-a-dope worry about a mere woman? As usual, he's got his priorities all messed up. But he is infallible, so who are we to judge?
Why the surprise. the pope and his scurrilous crew only like to look at little boys. Carla doesn't have what they have.
Thanks Mike, I appreciate your response to my post. I know what your saying about the media. I agree, to that it would be good if they just said something along the lines you quoted,(The Pope meets with Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, despite her past." ) to show a positive thing.
Its times like this when I wish our religous leaders would go the extra mile and invite her, despite her outward appearance or reputation. Even if it brings ridicule from whomever. We are suppose to be following in the ways of Jesus, and he did not seperate himself from p-r-o-s-t-i-t-u-t-e-s and charlatians, and others that would be "labeled" by todays standards. Sad really.
In twenty-five years, the Vatican will simply be a museum highlighting 2000 years of myths and historical embellishments. Featured will be 3D depictions of resurrecting bodies and flying, talking, wingie thingies. Diet wafers, plain or flavored, along with blood-colored wine will be offered in the museum cafeteria.
I think this is funny. Lol.
I cannot understand why the Pope would do that. So what if pictures did show up, depicting her that way? Whats that got to do with anything? Mayby there would be something that would benefit this womans spiritual life, if she were allowed to go. To me, that sends a wrong message. Jesus accepts everyone, and says, "come as you are".
CaholicMom, where are you? Need some thoughts from you on this one!
I'm not CatholicMom, but maybe I can give some ideas to you.
To being with, I agree about your idea that maybe she would benefit in her spiritual life from meeting with the Pope, but perhaps a state visit is not the proper venue for that. The message didn't say she was banned for life, as the headline suggests. It was in conjunction with the planning of a state visit by the President of France.
I read the original Telegraph story. The Vatican is concerned about news agencies making "scandal" out such a meeting. "The Holy See want(ed) to avoid photos showing Carla and the Pope together on the front pages next to older but saucier photos (of Carla)," Le Canard Enchaîné.
It would be great of newspapers and television would do stories such as, "The Pope meets with Carla Bruni-Sarkozy, despite her past." But I think we all know how news agencies like to "hype" things up.
I can envision a headline "Pope meets with former model and pop star," along with the picture of her wearing only thigh-high boots and a diamond ring. Some (and I stress "some") of the press would have a field day with that.
Case in point: Time magazine headline is "Pope Bans Carla Bruni From the Vatican." The message didn't state she was banned, it said she wasn't welcome, in conjunction with the upcoming state visit.
Also, was this the entire message? Or was it a single sentence taken from a longer message? The Vatican rarely ever sends out just a one sentence message. It tends to be very wordy.
Another point is the Vatican is an independent nation. And nations have refused entry to people they don't agree with in their country. The U.S. has banned someone from entry to the U.S. to speak to the U.N., although the U.N. is an international body. England banned Martha Stewart from entering the country due to her previous convictions. Kinda silly if you ask me, but that's politics for ya.
So, in a perfect world, yes, it would be best and a great thing if she was allowed to accompany her husband on the state visit. But this is far from a perfect world, and some people sit around, waiting to pounce on anything they can use to create a scandal, for many reasons.
I hope this might help give you some clarification, although I do agree with you that she should be allowed on the state visit.
The Pope did shake the woman's hand. That hand has now miraculously formed severe blisters and friction burns. These blisters were similar in nature to the blister experienced by the priest in the movie "Amityville Horror. Or so went the Vatican explanation...
In another story, the money alloted for tissues has been greatly exceeded. The Vatican said it was a bad case of the sniffles.
LOL. Just cacklin' my ribs off at your posts...
Great post, MikeTX. It's apparent how the media manipulates our perceptions.
the usual St.Peter Theatre.
The Pope and his minions should be banned from contact with little boys.
please go to the site about Father André Provençal, about is great story, thanks in advance
What a two-faced schmuck. Follow this link to a meeting of the Pope and Bruni-they even have a photo of them shaking hands!
I guess this means the Pope doesn't trust his minions around beautiful women. Of course, what he should do is not trust his minions around young boys. This just shows you how out of touch the 'Church' has become.
I don't know if you even read the story on your link, or thought no one else would actually read it, in order to inflame people. It clearly states it was taken in 2008. In case you can't count, that's around 2 years ago, depending on the month it was taken.
It was taken at at Elysee Palace, the official residence of the President of France.
The Pope was visiting the President of France, not vice versa. That means the other way around, in case you don't know.
It would have been rude not to shake her hand with her husband standing right there.
Also, these "racy" photos didn't start surfacing, as far as I know in America, until last year.
Now that your attempt at deception has been called out, I can hope you'll think twice before trying to "pull a fast one."
Dear Mr. Pope,
Are you kidding....? Really...?
You misspelled "Dope" again. 😀
....'Dog' dam-n it...!!! I hate it when I don't spell a word right.. 🙂