Pope creates two dozen new cardinals
October 20th, 2010
09:20 AM ET

Pope creates two dozen new cardinals

Pope Benedict XVI announced Wednesday that he would  create 24 new cardinals - putting his stamp on the body that will select his replacement when he dies.

The 24 senior Catholic clergy who will be getting their red hats next  month include two from the United States, plus men from Egypt, Brazil, Poland,  Italy, Zambia, Ecuador, Sri Lanka and Germany, among others.

Many of the incoming cardinals are already based in the Vatican as senior  officials of Roman Catholic Church bodies.

With the new influx, Benedict will have created 62 cardinals since  becoming pope in 2005. It's the third time he has created new cardinals.

Known as "princes of the church," cardinals are the highest level of the  hierarchy below the pope - and when a pope dies, cardinals under the age of 80  vote on his replacement.

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- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Bishops • Catholic Church • Pope Benedict XVI

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  1. Muneef

    Marriage made in Heaven

    On their way to get married, a young Catholic couple was involved in a fatal car accident. The couple found themselves sitting outside the Pearly Gates waiting for St. Peter to process them into Heaven. While waiting, they began to wonder could they possibly get married in Heaven.

    When St. Peter arrived, they asked him. St. Peter said, "I don't know. This is the first time anyone has asked. Let me go find out," and he left.

    The couple sat and waited for an answer for a couple of months. While they waited, they discussed the pros and cons. If they were allowed to get married in Heaven, should they get married, what with the eternal aspect of
    it all? "What if it doesn't work? Are we stuck in Heaven together forever?"

    Another month passed. St. Peter finally returned, looking somewhat bedraggled. "Yes," he informed the couple, "You can get married in Heaven."

    "Great!" said the couple. "But we were just wondering, what if things don't work out? Could we also get a divorce in Heaven?"

    St. Peter, red-faced with anger, slammed his clipboard on the ground.

    "What's wrong?" asked the frightened couple.

    "OH COME ON!" St. Peter shouted. "It took me 3 months to find a priest up here! Do you have any idea how long it'll take to find a lawyer?"

    October 22, 2010 at 4:19 pm |
    • Tas

      St. Peter sure is incompetent.

      October 22, 2010 at 5:31 pm |
  2. Muneef

    Ø    Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his 
         level and beat you with experience.
    Ø    War does not determine who is right – only who is left.
    Ø    The early bird might get the worm, but the second 
         mouse gets the cheese.
    Ø    Behind every successful man is his woman. Behind the 
         fall of a successful man is usually another woman.
    Ø    Some cause happiness wherever they go. Others whenever they go.

    October 22, 2010 at 4:00 pm |
    • Tas

      Those that live by quotes, hide behind others words.

      October 22, 2010 at 5:29 pm |
  3. toxictown

    Lock up your pre-teens!

    October 21, 2010 at 12:31 pm |
    • Megatron

      Oh, these are the new holy wafers, they have icing on them.


      October 21, 2010 at 1:17 pm |
  4. solsytem

    Church = The Big Lie My Church is My Heart, My heart bid is my Prayers I do not need any one to Preach for me, I do not need a Book, Their is only One GOD

    October 21, 2010 at 2:15 am |
    • Raison


      Only one? Are you sure? What if you were wrong? How would you feel?

      October 21, 2010 at 3:22 am |
    • Frank

      "Their is only One GOD"

      And who does this being belong to? Are they like a doggy on a leash? Who is 'they'?

      I'm sorry, I had to. Lol.

      October 21, 2010 at 3:44 am |
  5. Raison

    Did the Pope just commit a "Cardinal Sin"?lol

    October 20, 2010 at 10:54 pm |
  6. Frank

    May God bless them and guide them.

    October 20, 2010 at 9:29 pm |
    • Peace2All


      Now, when you make posts like that, how the hell can I point somethin' out or make fun of it...?

      Frank-- You gotta' give me something I can disagree with... You know, something to work with here.!!! 🙂

      October 20, 2010 at 9:39 pm |
    • CatholicMom

      Yes, Frank, thank you for praying…it was like a breath of fresh air and brought me to my senses.

      October 20, 2010 at 9:42 pm |
    • Peace2All


      Now I am feeling some of that good ole' 'Catholic guilt' right now from my post.. 🙂

      Hope that you are well...?

      October 20, 2010 at 9:47 pm |
    • CatholicMom

      Aren’t you feeling well tonight….you forgot to end with your usual prayer….

      October 20, 2010 at 9:51 pm |
    • Frank

      I'm sorry. Lol
      You're welcome. Was it like smelling salts? Lol.

      October 20, 2010 at 11:09 pm |
    • Frank

      You want something to make fun of me for? Here, I'll post a Lady Gaga song. This song is my anthem. 😛 (I'm bored and this place is pretty dead right now so...)
      "Silicone. Saline. Poison – inject me, baby. I'm a free b!tch. I'm a free b!tch.
      Some girls won't dance to the beat of the track. She won't walk away, but she won't look back.
      She looks good but her boyfriend says she's a mess, she's a mess, she's a mess now the girl is stressed. She's a mess, she's a mess, she's a mess. She's a mess.
      (Tell 'em, girls.)
      Baby loves to dance in the dark. 'Cause when he's looking, she falls apart. Baby loves to dance, loves to dance in the dark.
      (Tell 'em, girls.)
      Run, run. Her kiss is a vampire grin. The moon lights her way while she's howling at him.
      She looks good but her boyfriend says she's a tramp, she's a tramp, she's a vamp but she still does her dance. She's a tramp, she's a vamp but she still kills the dance.
      (Tell 'em, girls.)
      Baby loves to dance in the dark. 'Cause when he's looking, she falls apart. Baby loves to dance, loves to dance in the dark.
      In the dark...She loves to dance in the dark. In the dark. She loves, she loves to dance in the dark.
      Marilyn. Judy. Sylvia. (Tell 'em how you feel, girls!)
      Work your BlondeBenet Ramsey, we'll haunt like Liberace. Find your freedom in the music. Find your Jesus, find your Kubrick. You will never fall apart. Diana, you're still in our hearts. Never let you fall apart. Together we'll dance in the dark.
      Baby loves to dance in the dark. 'Cause when he's looking, she falls apart.
      Baby loves to dance, loves to dance in the dark.
      In the dark..."

      I think this is keeping on topic since Gaga is Catholic and she name drops JC in the song. I could also post the lyrics to Madonna's Like A Prayer. 😛

      October 21, 2010 at 1:29 am |
    • Raison

      Don't you mean "like a virgin"? ??

      So, what time zone are you in?

      October 21, 2010 at 3:20 am |
    • Frank

      No, honey. Like A Prayer. You know, it goes: "When you call my name, it's like a little prayer. I'm down on my knees – I want to take you there. In in the midnight hour, I can feel your power. Just like a prayer – you know I'll take you there." That's my Madonna jam. 😛 (Now I have to listen to it.) Like A Virgin works as well, though. Ave Maria. Lol.
      Eastern Standard.

      October 21, 2010 at 3:25 am |
    • Raison


      Ha! I forgot about that one. I was never much of a fan. Didn't need to be when there were so many others willing to take my place.
      West Coast, here. Watching people disappear at odd times makes me think most of them are on the East Coast.

      October 21, 2010 at 3:31 am |
    • Frank

      I'm not a huge fan of her, either. I think she stopped being great after the Immaculate Collection and then she was okay with Ray of Light, and now she's just a stuck up b!tch and a has-been who wants to pretend that she's English. I prefer Cyndi Lauper.
      Hey, I'm from San Francisco originally. 😀
      I'm a nightbird and I have insomnia. I also have a spliting headache right now. I feel like Zeus birthing Athena.

      October 21, 2010 at 3:36 am |
    • Raison

      Sorry to hear that. Go get some rest. Get your game on for next time. Peace2All is sure to have better arguments later....

      October 21, 2010 at 3:40 am |
    • Frank

      Oh, I will eventually. I'll be alright.
      He's going to argue against my Lady Gaga posting?! :O

      October 21, 2010 at 3:42 am |
    • Raison

      You didn't run off? I'm glad.
      I have no idea what he'll do about your wild assertions without merit – lol
      No, I like Lady GaGa, she's a bit out there, but her songs sound okay to me when I catch them on the radio.
      Those are weird lyrics, tho. But try writing a song and you'll see just how hard it can be...

      On topic, why do you think it's two dozen cardinals and not some other number?

      October 21, 2010 at 3:51 am |
    • Frank

      Nah, I'm hyper. I'll sleep whenever I take some Tylenol PM. Lol.
      Yeah, it looks odd typed out, but if you hear the song it makes sense. It's called Dance In The Dark. It's my favorite from her.
      I like to write but I'm not good at writing lyrics or poetry. Not something to be suggested to me!
      I actually have no idea why they chose that number. I don't much about the College of Cardinals besides the basics – that they are the second highest hierarchy in the Church, the Pope is selected from them, etc. Oh, and they have pretty vestments.

      October 21, 2010 at 3:56 am |
    • Raison

      Well, I can't quite wrap my brain around "pretty" in this case, but that's okay. heh. They might get a kick out of your opinion...or excommunicate you, I'm not sure which...

      October 21, 2010 at 4:08 am |
    • Frank

      You don't think cardinal red is a pretty color? Ah, well.
      Oh, I'm sure I'm excommunicated for a variety of other things. Oopsies.
      I'll let God worry about that when the time comes. That's how I look at it. Haha.

      October 21, 2010 at 4:11 am |
    • Raison

      I try to tell people that if God is the way they say he is, then no one should have any worries at all. But since the description inevitably fall afoul of all logic and reason, that tends to be the fly in the ointment, the monkey in the wrench, but no one reads that far when I explain in a gigantic post. I have become the wind-bag extraordinaire. A raison in the sun, the logic of which they fear to tread.

      October 21, 2010 at 4:24 am |
    • Frank

      Yeah, I tend to only read the first 2 sentences of each post and then everything else is a blur to me as I scroll down. Lol.
      Actually, I'm illiterate. My computer is reading this all to me.

      October 21, 2010 at 4:30 am |
    • Raison

      Illiterate, eh? Well, that explains a good many things about your weak arguments...lol

      October 21, 2010 at 4:58 am |
    • Frank

      Nope. Not going to goad me into fighting. One love and all. Feeling the peacefulness. 🙂

      October 21, 2010 at 5:05 am |
    • Megatron

      Catholic Mom, if someone praying is a breath of fresh air to you, you really need to have your head examined.

      October 21, 2010 at 1:16 pm |
  7. NL

    I guess it would be too much to hope that these new cardinals were created to hunt down pedophile priests and bring them to justice, wouldn't it?

    October 20, 2010 at 6:47 pm |
    • Peace2All



      October 20, 2010 at 9:28 pm |
  8. A Story

    Abracadabra! OOps! The pope could and didn't? Did he have on his tin foil hat!

    October 20, 2010 at 2:45 pm |
    • Behold

      This is indeed a great miracle, the pope created 2 DOZEN new cardinals out of thin air! God forbid what would the church do without his holiness.

      October 20, 2010 at 4:10 pm |
  9. A Story

    One former Catholic priest recalled an occasion when a lady parishioner asked him how long her late husband would be in Purgatory. The priest added he didn't know. The lady asked him if the Pope would know, for he had power over Heaven, Earth, and Hell when he wore his Triple Tiara.
    The priest thought about it, and realised for the first time in his life, the absolute folly of this man-made doctrine. If the Pope could release tormented souls, which the Church said he could do, why didn't he? He left the priesthood soon after this and went on to become a Born Again Christian

    October 20, 2010 at 2:40 pm |
    • Magic

      "He left the priesthood soon after this and went on to become a Born Again Christian"

      ... simply trading one form of magical thinking for another...

      October 20, 2010 at 2:55 pm |
    • kjcube

      -[Socrates] Any one who has common sense will remember that the bewilderments of the eyes are of two kinds, and arise from two causes, either from coming out of the light or from going into the light, which is true of the mind's eye, quite as much as of the bodily eye; and he who remembers this when he sees any one whose vision is perplexed and weak, will not be too ready to laugh; he will first ask whether that soul of man has come out of the brighter light, and is unable to see because unaccustomed to the dark, or having turned from darkness to the day is dazzled by excess of light. And he will count the one happy in his condition and state of being, and he will pity the other; or, if he have a mind to laugh at the soul which comes from below into the light, there will be more reason in this than in the laugh which greets him who returns from above out of the light into the cave.

      So "A Story" Which is it?

      October 20, 2010 at 4:17 pm |
    • Behold

      From turning on the flashlight and laughing at those that thinks others can't see them.

      October 20, 2010 at 4:26 pm |
    • kjcube

      Yes behold because that was such a profound response to the question... you sure put me in my place.

      October 20, 2010 at 4:47 pm |
    • Behold

      Glad to be of service, any more questions just let me know.

      October 20, 2010 at 4:54 pm |
    • Frank

      If that priest in your made up story knew anything about doctrine, he would've told the woman that it is not possible to know how long someone is in Purgatory or whether he was there in the first place unless some sort of sign is given. He would've told the lady to pray for the repose of her husband's soul.
      Bad example!

      October 20, 2010 at 11:18 pm |
    • Hats

      Christians sure know a lot... about made up stories.

      October 21, 2010 at 12:19 am |
  10. VistaNow

    Great News! The Bars of the gates are strengthened!

    October 20, 2010 at 2:31 pm |
    • Magic

      Perhaps you've heard the saying, "Rearranging the deck chairs on the T-itanic...".

      October 20, 2010 at 2:57 pm |
    • Ah

      EXP+10, level UP!

      October 21, 2010 at 3:47 pm |
  11. CatholicMom

    Yes, I guess you were wrong.....
    Thanks be to God!

    October 20, 2010 at 12:32 pm |
    • Megatron

      Yes, because promoting more cardinals is truly indicitive of church growth. I guess we can disregard all the statistics about the priesthood crisis affecting the church or how donations are getting lighter because people are leaving.

      October 20, 2010 at 4:31 pm |
  12. Peace2All

    So... Pope creates more Cardinals= Catholic stuff will continue...?

    Yikes... Catholic Mom, I had hoped that we were done with the RCC at sometime soon...yes..?

    I guess I was wrong.

    October 20, 2010 at 11:58 am |
    • geraldh

      Peace, when the gates of hell prevail you will be done with it. Oh wait Jesus said that will never happen. Sorry. But I suppose those like you will continue to try to prevail.

      October 20, 2010 at 6:46 pm |
    • Peace2All


      What the F * * K...?

      October 20, 2010 at 9:25 pm |
    • Frank

      He's just saying that hell will never prevail against the Church.

      October 20, 2010 at 9:28 pm |
    • Peace2All


      Yes... and.... Me thinks he is also inferring Hmmmmm.. something about "those like me, will continue to try and prevail".. I think I was just insulted by one of your 'fundie' Klan....

      Oh well.... 🙂

      October 20, 2010 at 9:36 pm |
    • Raison


      geraldh has put himself forth as one who judges as God and condemns you out of hand in much the same way. That he feels no horror at what he does is indicative of his failure to understand what he is attempting to do to a fellow human being.

      He is quite damned by his own rules, and if there is a hell (which would make a mockery of free-will and predestination at the same time), then he is "choosing" to put himself there.

      If Jesus exists and is going to judge everyone, geraldh blasphemes by sitting in Jesus' place. It is a chair no one should want to sit in, if they believed in such things....yet we see it so often here. The fundies are nuts.

      "Hell" makes no sense whatsoever, and beliefs about "Heaven" also fall under the axe of logic in this way.....!

      And no one mentions the "marks of the Anti-Christ" upon their foreheads in the picture????? Truly these deluded people have been stolen from their rightful minds by the nonsense of the wicked.

      😀 There! I have proclaimed unto them. May they find freedom from lies and delusion, but I do not expect it so.

      Don't let 'em get to you, my friend. They are deluded and stretched out of their natural shape. 😛

      October 20, 2010 at 10:51 pm |
    • Frank

      I didn't realize I was a part of the Klu Klux Klan? Wow, the Klan must be hurting for members if they're allowing half black bis#xual transmen into their ranks. Lol.
      Funnily enough, I've seen some Klansmembers who look Latino.

      October 20, 2010 at 11:08 pm |
    • Raison

      I see I went overboard again in my previous post. Sorry if it freaked anyone out. I used a mountain to crush a fly.
      You'd think I'd know better by now, but it is hard to catch these things sometimes.

      Hi, sorry I can't argue with you right now, as I seem to be using heavy blows where they are not needed. No need to get out your baseball bat....! I am going... lol 😀

      October 20, 2010 at 11:35 pm |
    • Frank

      Lol. Don't worry, Raison. You haven't given me a reason to bring out my sadistic side. I'm far too masochistic. 😉
      I think I just gave away too much information...

      October 20, 2010 at 11:44 pm |
    • Raison

      You're half "black"? Which half? Left, right, top, bottom? Or does it make a sort of plaid design all over your body? LOL

      October 21, 2010 at 3:16 am |
    • Frank

      I'm polkadot. 😀

      October 21, 2010 at 3:21 am |
    • Raison


      And what do you buy? lol

      October 21, 2010 at 3:22 am |
    • Raison

      Your schedule is considerably at odds with mine this week. So what's your excuse, mister? Eh? Busy making two dozen cardinals of your own?
      Concussion from beating head against wall? Super-agnostic fever? Did Frank finally wear you out with his pinpoint accuracy?lol
      Get right with the Laird, sinner! The last days are a-comin' and you've got nowhere else to turn! 😛

      October 21, 2010 at 3:46 am |
    • Frank

      Well, I certainly didn't buy anything for s#x... 0:)

      October 21, 2010 at 3:50 am |
    • Raison

      Ah, ignore my lame joke. I like your polka-dottiness. Not many people can say that sort of thing, you know what I mean?
      Ancestry is just a bunch of DNA making everyone crazy anyway. I'm part "black", but making an issue out of it seems insane.
      I've also got a lot of other ethnic groups in the mix, so I don't like identifying with people who are so blinded by these things...but I suppose you've noticed I have strong opinions, eh? 😛

      October 21, 2010 at 4:03 am |
    • Frank

      I agree. I'm actually about 8 different ethnicities. I just say I'm mixed. I'm just human. No one is one thing, anyway. I'm just...me.
      Strong opinions? Please, I know you're really a quiet retiring wallflower. So ladylike. 🙂

      October 21, 2010 at 4:07 am |
    • Frank

      This is, if you are a lady because I don't think I caught your gender. Haha.

      October 21, 2010 at 4:07 am |
    • Raison

      lmao! That's just the sort of dig I like to give Peace2All. He's a wild extremist, you know. lol
      Nah, I be a straight dude. You would have picked up on the gender thing if you had read all my posts.
      "caught your gender", no I guess you had it attached? lol Sorry, couldn't resist. Haven't had much opportunity to joke about transpotatoes. lol Even with all the "it's a trap!" jokes on the net, original material is rare. (oh, did I just say that?lol)
      I've insulted plenty of women in my time, being old as well...ah...I just can't win can I? You stand on both sides of so many jokes that I have to ignore the whole thing. (did I just say that?) lol
      Oh, this is too much! LOL

      October 21, 2010 at 4:20 am |
    • Frank

      You're a hetero dude? Oh, noes! Usually I'm so good at figuring out a person's gender from their posting style. Okay, notthatgoodbutwhater. *whistles*
      I know that Peace2All is just beyond all boundaries. He's part of the army of hell pounding on the Church's doors, after all. Well, according to one poster.
      Yes! Gender is catching! I've actually caught about 4 or 5 of them here. (I actually hate those 'trap' jokes. If anything, most men are a trap. BUT I DIGRESS.)
      What? Are you having a sugar rush?!

      October 21, 2010 at 4:27 am |
    • Frank

      I actually am transpotato, though. I just hope nobody is in the mood for potato wedges. Ouch.

      October 21, 2010 at 4:28 am |
    • Raison

      Oh, no! You di-int! (I can do that sideways head thing when I say that, btw)
      wedges, lol, that's a good one! Kate's better at these puns than I am. Wayyy better, except some of her puns are so obscure that I can only shake my head. Too bad she's busy workin'. But she might do a bombing run and show us all just how ridiculously serious we can be in here. She's done it before.
      If the weather here wasn't so bad, I'd be doing bombing runs myself, but I've been too serious lately. Your jokes help. thx. 🙂

      October 21, 2010 at 4:37 am |
    • Frank

      Oh, the pigeon head move? Lol. Are you a 9 year old black girl with barrets in her hair?
      Kate will just jump in and call me a 'dictator', berate me for threatening Const!tutional freedoms and threaten me with her right to bear arms. Frightening.
      Hey, there's nothing wrong with having a laugh. Happy to oblige. 🙂

      October 21, 2010 at 4:44 am |
    • Raison

      She's a Marine, or used to be, I forget which...so her use of firearms as a "friendly reminder" is just one of those things...she wasn't really threatening you, you know, just trying to suppress any leanings towards civil war over these issues, which the extreme right seems pretty bent on.
      Just helpin', as she would say...
      America is something we like to fight for when we understand what it means to have freedoms taken away...I could argue her points, but that should go in the other thread...
      So to stay on topic...
      Damn the Pope! He's a bugger of an ex-Nazi Youth member, stonewalling against children who have been abused!
      There. That's on-topic. What do you think about them apples?

      October 21, 2010 at 4:53 am |
    • Frank

      Well, I don't believe in war and I don't believe in gun violence. It just seemed like a veiled threat to me. If it wasn't, okay. I'm not really interested in that discussion, really. I don't like politics. It doesn't get anyone anywhere, unless you're a lying politician. This world is going to hell in a handbasket, anyway. 🙂
      I like the Pope. I wonder what his favorite brand of German beer is. 😀
      (You're not going to goad me into fighting! I'm feeling peaceful and no, I haven't smoked anything. Well, besides cigs.)

      October 21, 2010 at 5:03 am |
    • Frank

      ZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZ...I think I'm going to catch some Zzz's now. Good night, Raison. Thanks for the laughs. Later, man.

      October 21, 2010 at 5:09 am |
    • Raison

      Damn! Oh, well, I hate politics, too, when all's said and done. Hate politics so much I refused to talk about them for many years when I was younger.
      You like the Pope? Ugh! You don't get any points for taste, I'll tell you that much. Or sense, or any of a half-dozen things...but you are a transpotato, so how could anyone expect you to fit into some stereotype anyway? Or a coffee can?
      As for cigarettes, I enjoy smoking and intend to continue until I die. You should try the other kind, which cancer patients need, but our freedoms are infringed, suppressed, and banned thanks to religious nuts similar to you (I have no idea where you stand on that issue, but nevermind) 😛

      October 21, 2010 at 5:16 am |
    • Raison

      Oops! Have a good one. 😛

      October 21, 2010 at 5:17 am |
    • Frank

      The way I see it is that the Holy Father is the spiritual leader of over one billion people, plus he has to deal with all this all other stuff – anti-Catholicism, people's grievences, politics and the scandals and so on. That's not an easy job. I don't envy him at all. I know I would do much worse and probably buckle under the pressure.
      As for drugs: I think all drugs should be legalized. The crap that doctors can throw at us can be just like heroin or coke, sometimes even worse when you're talking about psychiatric meds. The only reason that those drugs are illegal is because some of our 'leaders' have their snouts in the trough of the global drug trade. It's good PR to pretend that you're helping to fight the problem and present that face to the public, while you're making your drug money on the side. It's called having your cake and eating it, too.
      I have no problem with weed. They've never found anything bad with it, anyway. In fact, they keep finding health benefits from it, especially in terms of fighting cancer. They're also finding health benefits from magic mushrooms. So go ahead and blaze, I say. Just make sure it's not cut with anything crazy!

      October 21, 2010 at 4:26 pm |
  13. David Johnson

    I have got to get me one of those hats!

    October 20, 2010 at 11:40 am |
    • CatholicMom

      Oooooh, if only the Pope had picked you, David.....maybe next time.

      October 20, 2010 at 11:55 am |
    • Peace2All


      Dude... I have been SO wanting one of those hats for years...!

      October 20, 2010 at 11:56 am |
    • Doc Vestibule

      Sure the Vatican promotes the spread of AIDS, gave tacit approval to the holocaust and promotes ritualistic cannibalism – but can you think of another organization with hierarchichal haberdashery?

      October 20, 2010 at 3:34 pm |
    • Megatron

      @CatholicMom Yeah, sadly he wouldn't have picked David because unfortuantely he hasn't covered up enough pedophile events or spoken out enough about condom use.

      October 20, 2010 at 4:29 pm |
    • geraldh

      God bless you Megatron.

      October 20, 2010 at 6:44 pm |
    • Megatron

      God made me exactly as he wanted. He created the universe with supreme knowledge. By my hand is his will.

      Isn't that what your faith teaches? That anything touched by God is holy.

      Therefore I am holy and my stating "The bible is clearly a work of simple minded sheep herders" is by God's will!

      October 21, 2010 at 1:15 pm |
  14. CatholicMom

    This will be on EWTN, I am certain. This is history in the making.

    I am so impressed with our Pope…his humility,... his intelligence,... his wisdom…his holiness…his love of humanity….Thanks be to the Holy Spirit in keeping His promises.

    October 20, 2010 at 11:26 am |
    • Reality


      B16 is intelligent? If so, why does he just say what he knows is true e.g. there never was a resurrrection of the simple preacher man named Jesus. Followed by: angels and satans do not exist and never did. And it would be good if he came clean about atonement theology.

      The "skinny" of said theology:

      "Moreover, an atonement theology that says God sacrifices his own son in place of humans who needed to be punished for their sins might make some Christians love Jesus, but it is an obscene picture of God. It is almost heavenly child abuse, and may infect our imagination at more earthly levels as well. I do not want to express my faith through a theology that pictures God demanding blood sacrifices in order to be reconciled to us."

      "Traditionally, Christians have said, 'See how Christ's passion was foretold by the prophets." Actually, it was the other way around. The Hebrew prophets did not predict the events of Jesus' last week; rather, many of those Christian stories were created to fit the ancient prophecies in order to show that Jesus, despite his execution, was still and always held in the hands of God."

      "In terms of divine consistency, I do not think that anyone, anywhere, at any time, including Jesus, brings dead people back to life." – JD Crossan

      October 20, 2010 at 3:17 pm |
    • kjcube

      One question I have and I'm serious not just criticizing. You said "I do not want to express my faith through a theology that pictures God demanding blood sacrifices in order to be reconciled to us." Look at the things people have done in the past, like the holocaust. A quote that I think sums it up, terrifyingly I might add, is " They smell even worse when they burn don't they." -A Boy in the striped pajamas
      If, according to your stated argument, you don't believe in God because of the "blood sacrifice" thing then how would you propose that crimes such as the holocaust didn't require such a sacrifice. Wouldn't justice need to be served? In some sense isn't that exactly what is was according to the bible (a work around mind you, but served nonetheless). How do you justify your argument?

      October 20, 2010 at 5:15 pm |
    • kjcube


      October 20, 2010 at 5:15 pm |
    • Reality


      The common sense thinking about atonement theology was by Professor JD Crossan and can be found in his book (with Professor Watts), "Who is Jesus?".

      October 20, 2010 at 5:59 pm |
    • kjcube

      Thank you I'll take a look

      October 20, 2010 at 6:28 pm |
    • jrkleineck

      I agree with you CatholicMom–B16 is a compassionate man who has a depth of love within him that I find to be quite inspirational. Crossan, I read about you on Wikipedia–it sounds as if you have no reason to have faith in Christianity any longer. As I'm sure you're aware, if there was no physical resurrection, then Catholicism and Christianity at large is completely bunk. I can't begin to understand what it would have been like to devote the first half of your life so devotedly to one pursuit only to reject it for the second half. It must have been painful, and it probably still is in some capacity. I only hope that you have found peace. I'll pray for you.

      November 14, 2010 at 11:28 pm |
  15. Reality

    Why bother? Simply two more old white men posing as reincarnated apostles!! Get back to us when there are female and married representatives!!!

    October 20, 2010 at 11:05 am |
    • Muneef

      Red Hat? Hat Red? Hatred?
      Get your self a Red Hat since you are filled with Hat Red= Hatred !

      October 21, 2010 at 1:42 pm |
    • Muneef

      Well maybe those 24 RedHats are the ones that are supposed to be distributed in the Middle East Church preplaned extension? The third world ones will be debuted in the most dangerous religious zones of the MidEast?!

      October 21, 2010 at 1:48 pm |
    • Ah

      So that's the reason they wear red hats. Makes sense.

      October 21, 2010 at 3:28 pm |
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