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October 24th, 2010
03:51 PM ET
Satanists' event in Oklahoma draws Christian protest
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CNN affiliate KOCO reports on a Christian protest outside a Satanist group's event in downtown Oklahoma City (backstory here) : In downtown Oklahoma City, Satanists held a Ritual in public at the Civic Center. The ritual began at 8 p.m. Thursday and drew plenty of controversy. Before making it inside where the Satanists were practicing their religion, prayers were heard outside by groups opposing the ritual. Chiquita Carbajal said she is against the ritual. “No place for Satan in Oklahoma,” she said.
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I hate to break it to you all, but religion is nothing more than the societal need to have a benevolent "father-figure" and an evil figure to blame. Society needs to band together, and unfortunately, we took the stories of the past (which were only used to reasonably explain what was one unexplainable) and forgot to update our belief base as we evolved a greater understanding of the universe. The world is not flat. Gravity is a universal force. The Earth revolves around the sun. Science explains these things now. 2000 we invented pretty stories to explain these things. Time to let the fairy tales go and start exploring the universe around us. God is only our own recognition of ourselves and environment. God is a state of mind and awareness. NOT A PERSONIFIED DIETY. But I have to take a dig. Commandment-thou shalt have no other god's before me....if a human can get over jealousy, shouldn't a God?
btw The whole christian belief system including the commandments are just plagarized from the Egyptian book of the dead which came over 3000 years before the birth of "christ". In fact, most major religions use the same tenets. Virgin birth, performing miracles, Birth on the 25 of December (which is only astro-theological explanation for the shortest day of the year) Download Zeitgeist and Zeitgeist Addendum. Open those tiny little minds and see where free thought will take us.
Two points:
First, there are three type of satanists: Followers of the church of satan (LaVey ), and followers of OCO (Aleister Crowley)or self proclaimed devil worshipers. Many Satanists become indignant if you assume that they worship Satan, despite the fact that this is a natural assumption to make about someone who says "I'm a Satanist." They present themselves as secular humanists, who embrace the concept of Satan as a symbol of anti-Christian protest or the worship of self. As a law enforcement officer, I was involved with a case involving "satanists" that murdered an entire family, for a ritual to invoke their man selves to a higher level of transcendence. This in one of many in my dept alone. So you can call it whatever you want but, nothing good comes of it.
Second, yes, freedom of speech allows everyone in this country to express their beliefs. Thankfully, because I believe Jesus has reigned for 2000 years and will continue to do so.
There has never been a proven case of Satanic ritual murder or abuse. There has been a lot of hype, a lot scare, but in the end most of it comes down to hysteria and false memory.
Bow to Papa Smurf.
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Jas 2:19 – "You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe–and tremble!"
As a Christian, I say let the Satanists believe and practice what they want. As soon as you take away their rights, someone will take away my rights to worship as I choose. That's why, in this post-Christian nation, I am against organized prayer in schools... because as soon as we pray to Jesus, we will have to have a prayer to Satan, Allah, and whoever else!
Well good for them both. The Satanist are not evil or trying to hurt anyway despite what people think. and im sure these "good Christians" needed to get out doors some. Good to see people expressing themselves with in the limits of the American laws. noone was hurt,injured or attacked. Please people stop dragging up history and putting things into this argument that do not belong in it. Anyways off to enjoy a wondeful day you all do the same
Satan is an imaginary character, so who cares? We have freedom of religion in this country - and that includes people who think Jesus was magic and those who like to pretend Satan is real, and any other dumb mythology people want to delude themselves with.
Thank god I am an atheist.
As a former satanist and (inactive)member I can honestly say that if half the population knew what the religion was about, they would realize how closely related they are to the most popular religions. Satanists just do what they want as long as it doesn't break the law or hurt another person. I agree with the first two posters. Nothing more needs to be said...peace.
This is the silliest story I've seen in weeks.
The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the One True God.
I'm confused, is it a Satanic ritual or a GOP meeting? I have a hard time telling them apart.
Here's a thought. Instead of worrying about who is following a "true" god or not, how about you keep it in your own homes. You'll do a better job of making the world better if instead of protesting and carrying on like a bunch of sheeple with nothing else to do, maybe invest that hour or so and genuinely help another person. The protest did nothing save waste time and cause upheaval. Or was that the point? You'll never fix a flat tire if you spend all your time arguing about the choice of rim.
You don't see the Pastafarians protesting, if you all would just be touched by his noodly appendage, you would see the truth. Reverence to the Flying Spaghetti Monster!!
I'm all for "doing your own thing." If you believe, that's your business, it not, that's also you business. But when you start condemning someone for their beliefs, well, that's another story. Due to a personal experience in my life, there is not a doubt in my mind there is a God. I am labled a fool and in some instances, called stupid. Such angry words to someone that feels he is believing in a wonderful thing. When it's all said and done, I believe our soul is eternal. What some choose to call a conscience, I choose to call the common ground of good and evil. The whole devil on one shoulder and angel on the olther kind of thing. I do try to make the right decisions. Sometimes I don't. But I ask to learn from them, grow stronger from my mistakes and move on. I reaally do think that my eternal fate is going to be somewhat better than, oh, let's say Hitler. I don't believe we will equally share a spot of earth to be worm food.
I'm not religious. I don't even go to church. But you betcha I try to hold myself accountable. There is not a doubt in my mind, that on several occasions, although rare, I have felt a "holy spirit." To have an event trigger something so wonderful inside of me, I cannot consider it anything else. Pure peace. Pure love. Bliss. I'm sorry non-believers. I cannot discount these thing's. It is my proof and no one can disprove it.
You may find it necessary to poke fun at my accounts and that's ok. See, I only care what I think and what I believe. I focus on my yard, not your's. I have plenty to tend. I just wish we could all let each other be. I have known athiest that I think are wonderful people. I know I could never change their mind and they know they could never change mine. We all have our faith in something. Let's respect it. God Bless!!! 🙂
You know what? You can believe the sky is purple and pink polka dots and that a unicorn lives in your garden for all I care. The problem comes when you decide you're going to force others to live as though they believe, or you go around preaching, or otherwise being annoying about your religion. Keep your religion to yourself, and we don't have a problem. But you christians can't do that because your religion promotes proselytizing. Learn to butt out, and we'll all be good.
Don't like the fact that things must have a secular bent in order to be equal and non-discriminatory? Thats not anyones problem but your own and you better bet that I'm going to put you in your place.
@Melissa.....I'm sorry. I thought I made myself crystal clear. Your point is the exact point I'm trying to make. Maybe you don't see it thru your obvious anger. Maybe you just felt the need to type something. Regardless, you just more or less mimicked my comment. It's ok though, there's no copywrite. 🙂
Christians are whiny children. Look people... "freedom of religion" does NOT only apply to Christians. Get over yourselves and grow up.
Well said. Thank you, my thoughts exactly.
@Sum Dude
I very much enjoy your posts. God Speed my friend!
@David Johnson
Is that like "ludicrous speed"? 😛
Uhhh...WHAT WOULD JESUS DO? FYI – He'd crush the serpent under His foot. That's actually precisely what He'd do. In fact, He does that a lot in the Bible. He's totally cool, liberal, and compassionate – but Jesus doesn't play. You might want to re-read a Bible to get the TRUTH because nowhere is He chill with demons or satan. If you do, however believe that, then I am sorry for you, you've just been, once again, dooped by the father of lies. Just thought I'd give you the heads up on the truth. God Bless, anyway.
The bible is the "Father of lies". Ignorant old myths and fairy tales.
We have successfully deviated from the atheists' unified rant against all forms of belief stemming from Christians protesting Satanists.. to non-sequitur red herring rantfests consisting of WMDs and indecipherable Arabic script.
And they call us Goths "freaks"..
Wow CNN, way to be impartial! And extremely clear reporting- I had to google to figure out what you were talking about. It sounds like a parity of Christianity held by secular satanists, who functionally are atheists.