November 7th, 2010
07:16 AM ET

Pope urges Spain to shun secularism

Pope Benedict XVI defended religion from  critics Sunday as he dedicated the Sagrada Familia church, a still-unfinished  emblem of the Spanish city of Barcelona.

"This is the great task before us: to show everyone that God is a God of  peace not of violence, of freedom not of coercion, of harmony not of discord,"  he said.

And he pushed back against what he sees as increasing secularism in the  world, saying, "I consider that the dedication of this church of the Sagrada  Familia is an event of great importance, at a time in which man claims to be  able to build his life without God, as if God had nothing to say to him."

He also defended the traditional family, after Spain's Socialist  government legalized same-sex marriage.

"The generous and indissoluble love of a man and a woman is the effective  context and foundation of human life in its gestation, birth, growth and  natural end," he said.

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- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Catholic Church • Gay marriage • Homosexuality • Pope Benedict XVI • Spain

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  1. HotAirAce

    Pope-a-dope, and all religious charlatans of his ilk, should shut the fack up! Or at least confine his tribal myths and medival thinking to his own flock and leave everyone else, particularly soveriegn countries, be.

    November 10, 2010 at 1:10 am |
  2. Muneef

    Very interesting applications I found to add to my knowledge and know more any where every where on mobile feeding knowledge and with the use of our "Minds and Hearts" to chose paths by making our own choices granted to us by God and be responsible for what ever choices we make and paths we follow;

    November 8, 2010 at 4:39 pm |
  3. WebGypsy

    oooppps I meant PEOPLE*

    November 8, 2010 at 11:00 am |
  4. WebGypsy

    I agree CW!

    It is sad that popel have wagered thier conclusion of no God based alone on what they percieve as scientific knowledge that there is no God.
    I don't know where that comes from.
    Mayby they don't believe he created the world, but I can see God and Science as one.
    How they come up with there is no God, when it is only by Faith, that you can have a relationship with God and know him, is beyond me.
    How can you discount that which you don't know, because you have not tried?

    November 8, 2010 at 11:00 am |
    • civilioutside

      It is sad that people have wagered their conclusion that there is a god based alone on the contradictory ramblings of a demonstrably inconsistent book cobbled together from the writings of a multi-tude of different authors who couldn't even agree with each other as to just what lessons it was supposed to be trying to teach.
      I don't know where that comes from.
      But how they come up with "there is a God," when it is only by faith that you can delude yourself that you have a relationship with god and know him, is beyond me.

      November 8, 2010 at 12:11 pm |
    • Know What


      "How can you discount that which you don't know, because you have not tried."

      Many (if not most) non-believers were at one time religious - some very much so, and even preached. After many years of study, thought, discussion and yes, even prayer, they have found that those beliefs in a supernatural being or beings who influence life on Earth (or hereafter) to be groundless.

      November 8, 2010 at 12:21 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      WebGypsy (an ironically heretical name for an XTian)
      "only by Faith, that you can have a relationship with God"
      That dirty, anglo-saxon monosyllable "faith" is what turns many of us non-believers off.
      It is intellectual apathy. It is the suspension of critical thinking and robotically plugging in "God did it" as the answer to any difficult question. If "God did it" feels contradictory (like when asking why there is evil in the world), then "God works in mysterious ways" is the default.
      If everyone in the world rejected empiricism in the way you have, our species would stagnate.
      Dogmatic thinking stifles Ho-mo Sapien's greatest trait – our inquisitiveness.

      November 8, 2010 at 1:00 pm |
  5. CW

    To All,

    I applaud the Pope standing against mankind trying to take God out of everything. I further agree is his standing against Gay marriage. Now with that said....I don't endorse all of the catholic priests who have been pedophiles in the last decade...and hope that they have asked for and received forgiveness. Christians of this nation need to Stand against this tide of people that don't believe and preach the truth only found in THE BIBLE. Maybe all non-believers threw prayer and listening can change their lifes and turn from living the world's way to God's way.

    November 8, 2010 at 10:49 am |
    • JohnQuest

      CW, I must say you are resilient in your faith, I can't understand prayer (for me its talking to no one and expecting something to happen). If nothing happen one thinks that "I really didn't need it anyway or didn't want me to have it" if something happens one thinks "it must have come from God".

      CW have you considered the following: If there was a God that created us it would mean that we Can Not have Free Will. Our actions are dictated by our nature (be it good or bad), we do not choose our nature, we have very little control over who we are born to be, if God created us in his image and knew us before we knew ourselves that would have to mean that God is responsible for our nature (good or bad), where does "Free Will" come in?

      November 8, 2010 at 11:49 am |
    • Muneef

      Mankind is responsible for his acts and has the freedom of choice between the paths of Rights or Wrongs basis that they had mind and heart to judge their intentions before committing them, whether they had messengers and holy books of God sent to them or not... But after all only God knows what was in their hearts and if to deserve mercy or not..
      Another thing is that for worshiping or praying to God for things to happen in your life by the mercy of God first your faith in God has to be strong enough in him and have to ask and keep on asking with out giving up and we are told what ever God did not want to give you in life will spare it for after life for you and few will be given in life.
      But we are as well told that those who feed on usury and money of wrong doings God would not listen to their pleads and therefore man has to be careful with such things.

      November 8, 2010 at 1:24 pm |
  6. Doc Vestibule

    Let's examine the following statement a bit more closely:
    " to show everyone that God is a God of peace not of violence, of freedom not of coercion, of harmony not of discord,"
    Letting go, for the moment, all of those killed in Holy Wars throughout the ages (as we can argue that is man and not God) has anyone done a body count for the Omnibenevolent Creator?
    The entire population of the earth wiped out in a great flood.
    10,000 soldiers lost in the Red Sea
    All of the first born children of Egypt
    The cities of Sodom and Gomorrah
    Countless victims of 10 plagues
    Nice and Peaceful, that Abrahamic God.
    As for coercion – all must obey upon penalty of eternal torment. Nope, no coercion there. Lesse... command Abraham to kill his son just to test obedience. Turning a woman into a pillar of salt for being naughty and looking back at the carnage God wraught on her city.
    If threats aren't coercion, than what is?
    As for the harmony not discord – I'm lazy this morning and merely point to the list above. So much death doesn't strike me as all that harmonious.

    November 8, 2010 at 8:34 am |
    • JohnQuest

      Doc Vestibule, Well said, I consider us most fortunate indeed that the Gods (or God) is only a figment of the imagination. If this were true and there really was a God the world would be a much different place and man would have been wipe out eons ago.

      November 8, 2010 at 9:41 am |
    • jrkleineck

      So true, and man has shown that since rejecting this idea of faith in God, he has achieve a never before reached level of peace and harmony. One only need to look to the former USSR to see that a modern, intellectual society can charitably respect life and maintain a system of governance that recognizes the dignity of humanity. I'm relatively certain the number you quote is below the projected tens of millions killed at the hands of power hungry humans within the past century alone. In any case, if you look at modern Catholicism, despite the pitfalls of pedophilic priests–we have to remember that churches are run by men who are supposed to be in touch with God (though not all are)–I think you might find that there truly is a heart of love and hope for all humanity, and a desire to live in peace.

      November 8, 2010 at 11:12 am |
    • civilioutside

      Interestingly enough, the USSR is an example of just what most secularists in America try to fight against: a state where the government attempts to enforce a particular stance on religious affiliation. This is not a state where the people as a whole chose to leave religion behind, but rather one where atheism was forced upon them by the state. I imagine one would see quite a different result in a society where people were free to choose their religious beliefs and the majority elected of their own free will to have none.

      November 8, 2010 at 12:19 pm |
    • Muneef


      How can you be so sure that God is just a figment of imagination?
      God has mercy for man but man has no mercy for man nor man for him self? And those wiped out were at the top of the list in being of the worst of humans and had no mercy at all for believers and weaker ones and God saw no hope of them.

      November 8, 2010 at 1:06 pm |
    • jrkleineck

      Civilioutside–that's an interesting perspective. I've not thought of secularism from that perspective before. I suppose that the majority of the time, particularly in America where we have a strong leaning on Christian morality, secularism is seen as more of cry against the involvement of Christianity in our society than being a cry against an imposed religious belief... or in the case of the USSR, a lack thereof. However, I'm not sure that the same holds true in the case of the imposition of agnostic beliefs: if a secularist is trying to keep religion out of society, would not an agnostic culture be the ideal? A secularist would not rally against agnosticism, would he? Maybe I misunderstand your point, but I'm intrigued by the thought.

      November 8, 2010 at 4:53 pm |
  7. Rhonda

    Differences between Mohammed and Jesus

    Different Message
    Jesus taught love and grace; Muhammad taught submission and rules. Muhammad taught that we must attain salvation by adhering to Islam’s Five Pillars of the Faith. In other words, our salvation depends on our own efforts. Even then, one has no assurance of forgiveness, and must depend upon the mercy of Allah for forgiveness. Some Muslims believe that the Qur'an teaches that becoming a martyr for Allah will gain them favor and they will be rewarded by a heavenly harem.

    November 8, 2010 at 8:13 am |
    • Muneef

      As to this although you did not ask for my comment but just read the first line of the page and did not finsh it because I was faced with the word that Jesus claimed being the son of God although no Angeel available says that but only bibles of words of men claiming that he said that?
      Let me add we were recently given a list of link pages that are called Islamic but are not Islamic at all giving wrong inforfmations and feeding fires of hatred amongst Muslims branches and among Muslims and non Muslims..
      As seems not all those called religious sites are truly and purely religious but have different political agendas to feed and to get the truth out of things have to read and think with mind and heart for judging same until the day truth come out or found "Angeel" if not convinced with the Quran...
      True we believe salvation is achieved by mercy of God first and then own efforts,because you may do many efforts but if God does not accept your efforts then no mercy is given because you might have made many prayers efforts but heart was not clean then I would not be accepted, and you may make little efforts but with the mercy of God for some thing you did or say end up in heavens"Paradise".
      About martyrs yes they were promised heavens"Paradise" provided they were on the right side and reasons for those fighting in the fields in wars and killed but doubt if those suicidal ones are included since God told us not to throw our selves to death and that any one takes his life out suicidally would not be permited to heavens"Paradise",but not sure how those were convinced that what they are doing is right?

      November 8, 2010 at 12:32 pm |
    • Muneef


      To see the other side of the story suggest you to visit the link and read the mentioned articles
      Special Articles
      Islam: A Quick Introduction
      You Must Know This Man!
      You Must Read This Book!
      How to Read a Translation of the Qur’an.

      November 8, 2010 at 12:43 pm |
  8. Rhonda

    I was reading this:

    It seems to say that the God worshipped by Muslims and Catholics are not the same one?

    CatholicMom and Muneef...Care to comment? Thanks.

    November 8, 2010 at 8:06 am |
    • NL

      You might as well ask Twilight and Buffy fans which series features "real" vampires.

      November 8, 2010 at 9:54 am |
    • Muneef


      Thinks for asking me to comment although do not know what to comment with since the page you mention insist to keep God worshippers separated and commenting as there are many Gods as if a God for each belief? And that made me wonder now how he is going to divid prophets among Gods? Any way seems to be a person full of hatred who wrote that since is presuming that the pope when ever facing Mecca would be cursing the House if God that was rebuilt by Ibrahim and Ismael?
      He states the name being a name of an idol while the idols we Leary about were named as Allat wa Alozat and many other names that are not any closer sounding or written as Allah ? About being the chosen people yes they were when most of prophets of God derived from the Children of Israel but since at all occasions they have let their own prophets and messengers of God down who he name them as the people of the Sabbath and the others who claimed him being three in one or being a father? Although it is hard for me how can God be 3 in 1 and a father in the same time? What ever is going to be said about that is a man made story and no Holy Scripture supports his claim for we to discuss this need to see,read the true scriptures of God that were given to Jesus and named to us in the Quran as Angeel Issa or Jesus which he had studied while now nothing of that is seen since maybe the Roman Emperor Constantine has burn all and the only present ones you have are stories told and written by his companions telling stories which we call Siera and Hadeeth but the heart of those which is the Angeel as of our Quran is not there to support allegations made by those human beings. Any way the Christianity of today is not as of Christianity then at time of Jesus after hading the Roman Politics manipulate it for their own interests combining idol worshippers and Christians in to one faith that is far from reality and true Christianity of Jesus and not of the companions or Constantine's...
      My comments are not intended to hurt any ones feelings but as to be truthful with my comment sourced from different readings...

      November 8, 2010 at 11:59 am |
  9. Reality

    Obviously, some of us continue to cause Muneef and khan to itch where they dare not according to the heavenly dictates of Mohammed and Gabriel!!

    November 8, 2010 at 7:33 am |
  10. Muneef

    Importance of First Ten Days of Zul-Hijjah
    The first ten days of Zul Hijjah are among the most magnificent days in Islamic calendar. the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said: "There are no days in which righteous deeds are more beloved to Allaah than these ten days."(Bukhari)
    Almighty Allaah says, (By the dawn; by the ten nights) (Qur'aan-Al-Fajr 89: 1-2). Ibn `Abbas, ibn az-Zubayr, Mujahid and others of the earlier and later generations are of the opinion that this refers to the first ten days of Dhul-Hijjah. Ibn Kathir said: "This is the correct opinion." (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, 8/413)
     The Holy Prophet, Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam, has said, "One fast during these days is equal to the fasting of one complete year, and the worship of one night during this period is equal to the worship of "Lailatul-Qadr". (Tirmizi)
    Every Muslim should avail oneself of this wonderful opportunity by performing as much Ibadah (acts of worship) as he or she can during this period.
    The 9th day of Zul Hijjah is called Yowmul-Arafah (The Day of Arafah). This is the date when the Hujjaj (Haji pilgrims, plural of Haji) assemble on the plain of Arafat, six miles away from Makkah al-Mukkarramah, where they perform the most essential part of the prescribed duties of hajj, namely, making Tawbah (repenting) at the Wuqoof of Arafat.
    For those not performing hajj, it is Mustahab (desirable) to fast on this day according to their calendar. It sometimes occurs that 9th Zul Hijjah falls on different days in different countries according to the sighting of the moon. In such cases, Muslims of each country should observe Yowmul Arafah according to the lunar dates of their own country.
    The fast of Yowmul Arafah has been emphasized by the Holy Prophet, Sallallaahu Alayhi Wa Sallam, as a Mustahab (desirable) act. According to a Hadith, the fast of this day becomes a cause of forgiveness for sins committed in the past and future year. (Hadith-Muslim)
    Beginning from the Fajr of the 9th Zul Hijjah up to the 'Asr prayer of the 13th, it is obligatory on every Muslim male to recite the Takbir-e-Tashreeq after every Fard Salaah (in congregation or alone) in the following words: Allaahu Akbar, Allaahu Akbar, La IlahaIllallahu, Wallahu Akbar, Allaahu Akbar wa lillahilhamd. (There is no god but Allaah and Allaah is the greatest, Allaah is the greatest and to Allaah belongs all praise.)Male Muslims should recite it in a loud voice, while females should recite it in a low voice.
    May Allaah Ta’aala enable us to use these blessed days in attaining His pleasure.

    November 7, 2010 at 9:42 pm |
    • Iqbal khan

      For Dear Muneef and those who are intrested... God bless all....check


      November 7, 2010 at 10:13 pm |
    • Reality

      And khan and Muneef continue to suffer needlessly but we again come to their rescue with the Five Steps to Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:

      Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

      "1. Belief in Allah"

      aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your cleansing neurons.

      "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

      Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

      "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

      A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

      "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

      Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

      Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

      Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

      "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)
      Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave attended to by his wives before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

      Accept these five steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic brainwash!!!!

      November 7, 2010 at 11:33 pm |
    • Muneef

      There is not Reality in this world and sad to see that Reality is Astray and lost faithlessly

      November 8, 2010 at 6:00 am |
  11. Muneef

    May God help the Pope to get things together again and support every word up there about how things should be looking like as Normal and Not Upnormal as it is now and hope as well that hands are extended between religions as whole to straighten civilizations and rights,fighting wrongs that lead all to worst of luck and destiny..
    But I wish from all those at the top of our Ibrahimic religions and Hindus is when find some thing proven wrong is to admit to it and working it out towards the light of Truth and not as they or their boards would like it to be or to remain but not for the sake of Pure Truth...the religions ought to discuss and do things to get us from this mess where there is no peace in worshiping God at God Houses of Worship? What is the exact purpose behind that has to be investigated carefully and worked out positively to over come negativity that is overtaking the world and humanity to unpleasant destiny where human rights are at it's worst due to famine,wars,natural disastors and all those could have been a result of these negativities which has to be over taken by posativities to save the souls of mankind from all defects caused by this faithless generations that adopt vio,lence and ter,ror to achieve their goals...

    November 7, 2010 at 9:34 pm |
  12. CatholicMom

    It was a wonderful blessing to watch Pope Benedict XVI consecrate the church; the nave is completely finished and the Pope held the first Mass there today, live on EWTN.

    November 7, 2010 at 8:41 pm |
  13. TheRationale

    The pope is a profoundly ignorant man.

    November 7, 2010 at 3:16 pm |
  14. Iqbal khan

    Also check...

    November 7, 2010 at 1:25 pm |
  15. Iqbal khan

    This book wil give you the historical facts about the modern day christianity.... check.... and download...


    November 7, 2010 at 1:22 pm |
    • gary

      yeah... so an islamhouse website will give accurate information about christianity ??

      lol.. we ain't a bunch of towelheads to believe that..

      goodluck next time

      November 14, 2010 at 9:50 am |
  16. a better list 4 Reality

    bad letter combinations / words to avoid if you want to post that wonderful argument:
    Many, if not most are buried within other words, but I am not shooting for the perfect list, so use your imagination.
    You can use dashes, spaces, or other characters to modify the "offending" letter combinations.
    s-ex....Ess-ex, s-exual, etc.
    c-um.........as in doc-ument, accu-mulate, etc.
    sp-ic........as in disp-icable (look out Sylvester the cat!)
    ho-mo...whether ho-mo sapiens or ho-mose-xual, etc.
    t-it.........const-itution, att-itude, ent-ities, etc.
    fu-ck...isn't this a great word? yet they filter it. 🙁
    tw-at.....as in wristw-atch, (an unexpected one)
    pr-ick....perhaps cupr-ic would also fall under the ban.
    va-g....as in extrava-gant, va-gina, va-grant, va-gue, sava-ge, etc.
    ar-se....yet "ass" is not filtered!
    nip-ple...those baby bottles are obscene aren't they?
    cu-nt...as in Scu-ntthorpe, a city in the UK, famous for having problems with filters...!
    co-on...as in rac-oon, coc-oon
    ra-pe...as in gr-ape, etc.
    jacka-ss...but ass is fine lol
    p-is.....as in pi-stol, lapi-s, pi-ssed, etc.

    ft-w....as in soft-ware...!!!!!omg!
    j-ap...as in j-apanese, ja-pan, j-ape, etc...this is one I had forgotten,as I only encountered it elsewhere...

    There are more, some of them considered "racist", so do not assume that this is complete.
    okay words that you might have thought were bad...lol
    I have found the best way to re-submit is to hit the back button, delete the cookies, look for and fix the problem and then hit "post". There are also "technical" ways past the filter, like "html ent-ities" (google it without the dash), but the filter is the problem, not a solution. Filters should not be needed in a free opinion blog.

    November 7, 2010 at 10:03 am |
    • Reality

      So better list 4 Reality is the former Raison and Sam Dude? 🙂

      November 7, 2010 at 10:52 am |
  17. newsreader

    We are living strange times indeed. People are being belittled for speaking up for the dignity of human life in all its forms, for reminding us that the foundation and natural context of human life from its gestation, birth and growth to its natural end is the comunity of a man and a woman bound together in sacrificial love. What other, more diginified alternative is there?

    November 7, 2010 at 7:36 am |
    • Reality

      Speaking up for the dignity of human life in all its forms is relegated to all humans not just to those who believe in mythical gods and mythical winged messengers.

      November 7, 2010 at 9:49 am |
    • dutchblitz

      Isaiah did write that people would call evil good and good evil

      November 7, 2010 at 2:02 pm |
    • Muneef

      It is true we are at those times of Al Dijjal where the wrong is considered right and the right is considered wrong and that was warned to us by all prophets of God. We are being tested by God and only those hold on tight to God will be saved and those with faint belief will be lost. As did the serpent that has talked Adam&Eve to do opposite to what they been instructed to or not to do is trying the same again with mankind through his army of lost souls...

      November 8, 2010 at 4:58 am |
  18. Reality

    Once a day WARNING for new commentators:

    • The moderators of this blog have set up a secret forbidden word filter which unfortunately not only will delete or put your comment in the dreaded "waiting for moderation" category but also will do the same to words having fragments of these words. For example, "t-it" is in the set but the filter will also pick up words like Hitt-ite, t-itle, beati-tude, practi-tioner and const-tution. Then there words like "an-al" thereby flagging words like an-alysis and "c-um" flagging acc-umulate or doc-ument. And there is also "r-a-pe", “a-pe” and “gra-pe”, "s-ex", and "hom-ose-xual". You would think that the moderators would have corrected this by now considering the number of times this has been commented on but they have not. To be safe, I typically add hyphens in any word that said filter might judge "of-fensive".

    • More than one web address will also activate “waiting for moderation”. Make sure the web address does not have any forbidden word or fragment.

    "Raison's Filter Fiber© (joking about the copyright)

    Here's my latest list – this seems like a good spot to set this down, as nobody's posting much on this thread.....
    bad letter combinations / words to avoid if you want to post that wonderful argument:
    Many, if not most are buried within other words, but I am not shooting for the perfect list, so use your imagination and add any words I have missed as a comment (no one has done this yet)
    – I found some but forgot to write them down. (shrugs).
    c-um.........as in doc-ument, accu-mulate, etc.
    sp-ic........as in disp-icable (look out Sylvester the cat!)
    ho-mo...whether ho-mo sapiens or ho-mose-xual, etc.
    t-it.........const-itution, att-itude, ent-ities, etc.
    fu-ck...isn't this a great word? yet they filter it.
    tw-at.....as in wristw-atch, (an unexpected one)
    va-g....as in extrava-gant, va-gina, va-grant
    ar-se....yet "ass" is not filtered!
    jacka-ss...but ass is fine lol
    p-is.....as in pi-stol, lapi-s, pi-ssed, etc.
    There are more, so do not assume that this is complete.
    okay words that you might not expect to be filtered....!!!
    IHere's a word to add to the banned list: co-co-on
    whether it's c-oc, or co-on, this is ridiculous

    November 7, 2010 at 7:33 am |
  19. Reality

    Christians should burn their copies of the NT for the 2000 year old con job that has been perpetuated on them by popes, bishops, priests, ministers and evangelicals. And Jews should burn their copies of the OT/Torah for the 6000 year old con job pulled on them by their past and current rabbis.

    Muslims should burn their copies of the koran for the 1400 year old con job that is pulled on them daily by the imams and ayatollahs.

    November 7, 2010 at 7:27 am |
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