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December 2nd, 2010
06:18 PM ET

My take: Where's the outrage over Noah's Ark park?

Editor's Note: Stephen Prothero, a Boston University religion scholar and author of "God is Not One: The Eight Rival Religions that Run the World," is a regular CNN Belief Blog contributor.

By Stephen Prothero, Special to CNN

A four-minute video that includes an eleven-second depiction of a crucifix crawling with ants has been removed from the “Hide/Seek: Difference and Desire in American Portraiture” exhibit at the National Portrait Gallery, but it is still stirring up controversy in Washington, DC.

First, incoming House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Virginia) blasted the National Portrait Gallery for its “obvious attempt to offend Christians during the Christmas season,” while the incoming House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and other Republicans threatened to scrutinize Smithsonian funding next year.

Then Martin Sullivan, who directs the National Portrait Gallery, said “it was not the museum’s intention to offend” but pulled the video anyway, which prompted the liberal group, People for the American Way, to accuse Republican critics of the exhibit of censorship: “This new GOP leadership wants a government that stays out of people’s lives when it comes to health care and unemployment benefits, but they show no scruples about using government power to censor the free expression of those they disagree with.”

I write not to raise First Amendment questions about elected officials transforming themselves into self-appointed curators, but to ask whether these officials are really concerned (as they claim) about the use of taxpayer funds to weigh on matters of the spirit.

In a press release yesterday, Gov. Steve Beshear of Kentucky announced that his state had entered into a deal with the folks behind the Creation Museum to break ground for Ark Encounter, a $150 million theme park complete with “a full-scale model of Noah’s Ark.”

Rather than speaking of his state's support of this group’s creationist agenda, Gov. Beshear spoke of employing 900 workers and drawing 1.6 million visitors a year. According to the Lexington Herald-Leader, however, the tax breaks offered by the state to Ark Encounter, as the theme park is being called, “could surpass $37 million.”

The entire exhibit at the National Portrait Gallery (of which the brief clip by the late artist David Wojnarowicz was a small part), cost, by contrast, $750,000, and all of that from private donations.

So my question to Representatives Boehner and Cantor, and to Glenn Beck and others who are working themselves up into a lather over this supposed attack on Christianity, is this: Are you equally outraged over millions in tax breaks to a group promoting fundamentalism? 

Would you be outraged at all if the clip in question concerned not an "antsy Christ" but an "antsy Buddha" or an "antsy Christopher Hitchens"? And how loud would the outrage be in Washington if Kentucky's governor was offering millions in tax incentives to a Hare Krishna theme park? Or a Disney Land of Atheism?

Beyond these questions of basic fairness, I have a more practical question, this time for Belief Blog readers: Would you pay good money to see a 500-foot-long replica of Noah's Ark?

I hate to sound like one of Noah's scoffers in Genesis, but the last time I was at the Holy Land Experience in Orlando, it wasn't exactly crowded. And that Bible theme park is in Orlando, Florida, not Grant County, Kentucky.

The opinions expressed in this commentary are solely those of Stephen Prothero.

- CNN Belief Blog contributor

Filed under: Art • Bible • Church and state • Culture wars • Fundamentalism • Opinion • United States

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  1. bc

    First, I am Christian and I do oppose the art concerning Jesus. But lets be real, Jesus was mocked in his day and will always be mocked by the world. I forgive those who do not think highly of Jesus, but his life is the true life of happiness. He showed compasion to everyone including those who mocked Him. Just imagine His last words, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do!" He said that to those who made this art and always forgives. It is we that condemn ourselves, but Jesus that brings us back from that condemnation!

    December 4, 2010 at 5:51 pm |
  2. JR

    I'd be more interested in a miniaturization exhibit that could demonstrate how to stuff millions of animals into such a small space, I guess ole Noah had help for some passing alien or something to produce that magic.

    December 4, 2010 at 5:48 pm |
  3. The Truth

    This is stupid.
    The USA is a country with Christian roots. You're free to believe whatever you want, but don't go crying when you get your anti-Christian crap taken down.

    If you don't like Christianity you can deck your own home out in as much anti-Christian stuff as you want, but once you're in public you need to respect the society that you live in.

    December 4, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
    • Jeffision

      You should wake up and smell the coffee...the sun is going down on christianity. The world is sick and tired of christian (muslim, jewish) delusion, bullying, hatred, and violence in the name of a sky fairy myth. Religion is infantile.

      December 4, 2010 at 6:01 pm |
    • Daniel

      Do you even understand what the non-establishment clause of the First Amendment is, much less what it means and why it is there?

      The United States was founded, explicitly, as a secular society, by men – Christian and otherwise – guided by the principles not of religion but of Reason.

      We are not now and never have been a Christian nation. I do not want my tax money going to fund a -for profit- theme park dedicated to one especially narrow and intolerant strain of Christianity.

      If people want to buy land and build a biblical theme park, that is fine. But it should not receive public money or tax breaks. It should in fact pay its taxes like any other profit-making business.

      December 4, 2010 at 8:42 pm |
  4. Iqbal khan

    And this....

    http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=238

    December 4, 2010 at 4:47 pm |
  5. Iqbal khan

    What He Said?
    check....
    http://www.rense.com/general59/ein.htm

    December 4, 2010 at 4:45 pm |
    • Reality

      What he should have said:

      Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.

      This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.

      And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.

      Current crises:

      The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.

      December 6, 2010 at 12:55 pm |
  6. Iqbal khan

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m4KW-dysKk&w=640&h=360]

    December 4, 2010 at 4:42 pm |
  7. Eiolgj

    Does anyone really think that a God who is small enough to be understood by a human brain was "BIG" enough to create universe and that every detail of how this happened is contained in Genesis? Really, when the scriptures were handed down orally for a long time before they were written down? I'm a believer who thinks that there is much more to the story, that God is big enough to have created the earth any way God decided to do so, and that human logic doesn't begin to contain God's logic. The story of salvation isn't logical, not within human logic anyway, yet that is what a Christian believes. So if that great act of love comes from God, why would anyone believe that God is so small that God followed a script that is what someone in 2010 says is so?

    December 4, 2010 at 10:39 am |
    • Enos Rifkin

      No, God is small enough to be comprehended by a human brain because that's where 'he' originated.

      December 4, 2010 at 6:41 pm |
  8. Daisy Clover

    I love the idea of the an "Ark" theme park. Yes, I will travel great distances to see it. And return frequently with friends and relatives.

    December 4, 2010 at 8:37 am |
  9. blumunofky

    I live in the area where this "amusement" park will be located –have been by that interstate exit many times. It is an embarrassment for the Commonwealth, and ought to be illegal for the state to provide any sort of aid - tax incentives or anything else. Where is the separation of church and state? Where's the common sense? If the elected officials and planning and zoning poobahs of Grant County approve this, they should resign immediately. The nutjobs who want to build this ...thing ... and who already run the Creationist Museum disgrace Kentuckians. Please, to anybody who will listen rationally, all residents of this state are not deliberately ignorant literalists. Most of us can reconcile the Biblical explanation of creation (God has His own definition of time, and does not own a watch or a calendar) with irrefutable scientific proof of the development of the earth and the life on it. This "park" is a waste of ground and resources - I'm ashamed that this junk is in our state.

    December 4, 2010 at 12:28 am |
  10. Juan

    The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000; that is ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION or 20% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

    Literature:
    1988 – Najib Mahfooz

    Peace:
    1978 – Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
    1990 – Elias James Corey
    1994 – Yaser Arafat:
    1999 – Ahmed Zewai

    Economics:
    (zero)

    Physics:
    (zero)

    Medicine:
    1960 – Peter Brian Medawar
    1998 – Ferid Mourad

    TOTAL: 7 SEVEN

    The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000; that is FOURTEEN MILLION or about 0.02% of the world's population. They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

    Literature:
    1910 – Paul Heyse
    1927 – Henri Bergson
    1958 – Boris Pasternak
    1966 – Shmuel Yosef Agnon
    1966 – Nelly Sachs
    1976 – Saul Bellow
    1978 – Isaac Bashevis Singer
    1981 – Elias Canetti
    1987 – Joseph Brodsky
    1991 – Nadine Gordimer World

    Peace:
    1911 – Alfred Fried
    1911 – Tobias Michael Carel Asser
    1968 – Rene Cassin
    1973 – Henry Kissinger
    1978 – Menachem Begin
    1986 – Elie Wiesel
    1994 – Shimon Peres
    1994 – Yitzhak Rabin

    Physics:
    1905 – Adolph Von Baeyer
    1906 – Henri Moissan
    1907 – Albert Abraham Michelson
    1908 – Gabriel Lippmann
    1910 – Otto Wallach
    1915 – Richard Willstaetter
    1918 – Fritz Haber
    1921 – Albert Einstein
    1922 – Niels Bohr
    1925 – James Franck
    1925 – Gustav Hertz
    1943 – Gustav Stern
    1943 – George Charles de Hevesy
    1944 – Isidor Issac Rabi
    1952 – Felix Bloch
    1954 – Max Born
    1958 – Igor Tamm
    1959 – Emilio Segre
    1960 – Donald A. Glaser
    1961 – Robert Hofstadter
    1961 – Melvin Calvin
    1962 – Lev Davidovich Landau
    1962 – Max Ferdinand Perutz
    1965 – Richard Phillips Feynman
    1965 – Julian Schwinger
    1969 – Murray Gell-Mann
    1971 – Dennis Gabor
    1972 – William Howard Stein
    1973 – Brian David Josephson
    1975 – Benjamin Mottleson
    1976 – Burton Richter
    1977 – Ilya Prigogine
    1978 – Arno Allan Penzias
    1978 – Peter L Kapitza
    1979 – Stephen Weinberg
    1979 – Sheldon Glashow
    1979 – Herbert Charles Brown
    1980 – Paul Berg
    1980 – Walter Gilbert
    1981 – Roald Hoffmann
    1982 – Aaron Klug
    1985 – Albert A. Hauptman
    1985 – Jerome Karle
    1986 – Dudley R. Herschbach
    1988 – Robert Huber
    1988 – Leon Lederman
    1988 – Melvin Schwartz
    1988 – Jack Steinberger
    1989 – Sidney Altman
    1990 – Jerome Friedman
    1992 – Rudolph Marcus
    1995 – Martin Perl
    2000 – Alan J. Heeger

    Economics:
    1970 – Paul Anthony Samuelson
    1971 – Simon Kuznets
    1972 – Kenneth Joseph Arrow
    1975 – Leonid Kantorovich
    1976 – Milton Friedman
    1978 – Herbert A. Simon
    1980 – Lawrence Robert Klein
    1985 – Franco Modigliani
    1987 – Robert M.. Solow
    1990 – Harry Markowitz
    1990 – Merton Miller
    1992 – Gary Becker
    1993 – Robert Fogel

    Medicine:
    1908 – Elie Metchnikoff
    1908 – Paul Erlich
    1914 – Robert Barany
    1922 – Otto Meyerhof
    1930 – Karl Landsteiner
    1931 – Otto Warburg
    1936 – Otto Loewi
    1944 – Joseph Erlanger
    1944 – Herbert Spencer Gasser
    1945 – Ernst Boris Chain
    1946 – Hermann Joseph Muller
    1950 – Tadeus Reichstein
    1952 – Selman Abraham Waksman
    1953 – Hans Krebs
    1953 – Fritz Albert Lipmann
    1958 – Joshua Lederberg
    1959 – Arthur Kornberg
    1964 – Konrad Bloch
    1965 – Francois Jacob
    1965 – Andre Lwoff
    1967 – George Wald
    1968 – Marshall W. Nirenberg
    1969 – Salvador Luria
    1970 – Julius Axelrod
    1970 – Sir Bernard Katz
    1972 – Gerald Maurice Edelman
    1975 – Howard Martin Temin
    1976 – Baruch S. Blumberg
    1977 – Roselyn Sussman Yalow
    1978 – Daniel Nathans
    1980 – Baruj Benacerraf
    1984 – Cesar Milstein
    1985 – Michael Stuart Brown
    1985 – Joseph L. Goldstein
    1986 – Stanley Cohen [& Rita Levi-Montalcini]
    1988 – Gertrude Elion
    1989 – Harold Varmus
    1991 – Erwin Neher
    1991 – Bert Sakmann
    1993 – Richard J. Roberts
    1993 – Phillip Sharp
    1994 – Alfred Gilman
    1995 – Edward B. Lewis
    1996- Lu RoseIacovino

    TOTAL: 129!

    The Jews are NOT promoting brain washing children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non Muslims. The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.

    The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

    Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

    Muslims must ask 'what can they do for humankind' before they demand that humankind respects them.

    Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two
    sentences really say it all:

    "If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.
    If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel ."
    Benjamin Netanyahu

    December 4, 2010 at 12:12 am |
    • Reality

      Juan,

      Great comments!!

      Some added thoughts:

      The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
      ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

      Are you ready?

      Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

      "1. Belief in Allah"

      aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your cleansing neurons.

      "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

      Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

      "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

      A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

      "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

      Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

      Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

      Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

      "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."

      Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

      Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

      – The Jews and Palestinians are being separated by walls. Hopefully the walls will follow the 1948 UN accords. Unfortunately the Annapolis Peace Conference was not successful. And unfortunately the recent events in Gaza has put this situation back to “squ-are one”. And this significant stupidity is driven by the mythical foundations of both religions!!!

      December 4, 2010 at 8:05 am |
  11. Juan

    A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves.

    Absolutely No Profiling! Pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test.

    These events are actual events from history. They really happened! Do you remember?

    HERE'S THE TEST

    1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
    a. Superman
    b. Jay Leno
    c. Harry Potter
    d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

    2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
    a. Olga Corbett
    b. Sitting Bull
    c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
    a. Lost Norwegians
    b. Elvis
    c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
    a. John Dillinger
    b. The King of Sweden
    c. The Boy Scouts
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
    a. A pizza delivery boy
    b. Pee Wee Herman
    c. Geraldo Rivera
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
    a. The Smurfs
    b. Davey Jones
    c. The Little Mermaid
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
    a. Captain Kidd
    b. Charles Lindberg
    c. Mother Teresa
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
    a. Scooby Doo
    b. The Tooth Fairy
    c. The Sundance Kid
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
    a. Richard Simmons
    b.. Grandma Moses
    c. Michael Jordan
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
    a. Mr. Rogers
    b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
    c. The World Wrestling Federation
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
    a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
    b. The Supreme Court of Florida
    c. Mr. Bean
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
    a. Enron
    b. The Lutheran Church
    c. The NFL
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
    a. Bonnie and Clyde
    b. Captain Kangaroo
    c. Billy Graham
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    14. And now we can add: In 2009, 31 people wounded and 13 American Soldiers murdered on base at Fort Hood by a Major that was known as....
    a: You guessed it – A Muslim male extremist between the age of 17 and 40.

    No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

    Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Nancy Pelosis, Gloria Aldreds and other dunder-headed attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves – if they have any such sense.

    We can not allow the socialist transformation being brought on by the current administration to continue. Look at what it has done to Europe . We all must stand together before it's too late and everything America stands for is lost

    December 4, 2010 at 12:10 am |
  12. Iqbal khan

    [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Ix2kvV7O8&w=640&h=360]

    December 3, 2010 at 9:49 pm |
    • Reality

      Saving British Muslims and all Muslims in general:

      The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
      ( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)

      Are you ready?

      Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.

      "1. Belief in Allah"

      aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your cleansing neurons.

      "2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."

      Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".

      "3. To believe in the existence of angels."

      A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.

      "4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."

      Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.

      Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.

      Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.

      "5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) alone."

      Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.

      Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!

      December 4, 2010 at 7:59 am |
  13. James Underdown

    I dare them to build it!

    Anyone who tries - especially by using biblical specs - will learn how impossible this ridiculous myth is.

    See http://www.centerforinquiry.net/blogs/entry/whats_next_moses_red_sea_water_park/

    for more details...

    December 3, 2010 at 7:07 pm |
  14. Believer

    The reason people believe in God is because we have FAITH. "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see. This is what the ancients were commended for. By faith we understand that the universe was formed at God's command, so that what is seen was not made out of what was visible". (Hebrews 11:1-3 NIV). I am sorry but people that do not believe in a higher being than themselves believe man to be all knowing and seeing is exactly what the devil wants. When we believe man over God he has won and the world is doomed.

    December 3, 2010 at 6:45 pm |
    • civiloutside

      Once again we see a fundamental misunderstanding of the atheist position. None of us, not a one, claims to know everything. Nor do we think that mankind as a whole knows everything. If we did, we wouldn't be such a fan of science because that is the method for investigating all the things we do not know.

      Ironically, we're the ones being accused of arrogance constantly when we're the ones who hold the position that rather strongly implies that we have no special place in the universe whatsoever. It's the believers who make the claim that we're the most important thing their god ever made in all of creation.

      Most atheists will never claim that humans are the pinnacle of the universe. We're just something that happened, part of the continuum of life on this planet. We don't know everything there is to know, we may never know everything there is to know. We just don't feel that the gaps in our knowledge are such horrible things that we need to fill them with an imaginary father figure that makes us feel special and can be the catch-all explanation for the things we don't yet (or may never) understand.

      December 3, 2010 at 11:27 pm |
    • NL

      "Now faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see."

      How, exactly, is this any different from an ordinary delusion, like playing the lotto religiously 'knowing' that some day your numbers are going to win?

      December 3, 2010 at 11:27 pm |
    • Frogist

      @civiloutside: Damm well said!

      December 6, 2010 at 3:45 pm |
  15. Karen

    AM not sure why atheists come to the belief section blogs to post on matters of belief. Is having no belief in any thing bigger than yourself a belief you are trying to proselytize? Maybe you just come to persecute those why don't share your thinking because it gives you a feeling of power. Arrogance is the language of losers.

    December 3, 2010 at 5:27 pm |
    • NL

      I do believe in things bigger than myself... things that I can prove exist, like whales, black holes and democracy. Things that cannot be proven are best described as imaginary, and I don't believe that imaginary things are real. It's been a long time since I've stopped checking under my bed every night for monsters.

      December 3, 2010 at 11:22 pm |
    • Juan

      NL
      Don't check under your bed for monsters; look in the mirror. That's where human beings are most likely to find a monster.

      December 3, 2010 at 11:59 pm |
    • JD

      Karen

      We happen to pay taxes, and are likely interested to find out about $37 million in tax incentives for a religious theme park. It sounds like a waste of taxpayer money to me.

      December 4, 2010 at 6:38 pm |
    • Frogist

      @Karen: Is that why you're here? To proselytize, persecute and be arrogant? Because you seem to think those are the only reasons to participate in these discussions.

      December 6, 2010 at 3:41 pm |
  16. NL

    Maybe there are already, but another way of looking at this is would it be appropriate to build a similar, for profit attraction based on an American Revolution theme? No government or historical standards enforced, just the operator's 'interpretation' of things, and all for private profit!

    December 3, 2010 at 3:52 pm |
  17. NL

    "Disney Land of Atheism"

    So, that would be a place filled with what exactly: All the things we atheists DON'T believe in? Like the supernatural, magic, mythical creatures, science fiction creations, ghosts, talking animals,...

    Seems to me that Florida already has an abundance of such attractions already. Might as well call it the 'Atheist State' and charge one admission to see everything. Well, everything except the Kennedy Space Center. That'll have to cost ya extra.

    December 3, 2010 at 3:04 pm |
    • Chase Dorway

      The Kennedy Space center is not super-atheist or anti-christian. I've been there quite a few times, and I wasn't offended because I believe in a god or goddess. They don't have any attractions on the creation of the universe, just the universe, and they're really cool.

      December 3, 2010 at 4:47 pm |
    • Frogist

      @NL: Such attractions would include: Riding the Reasonable Rocket... Dunk the Hitchens... The Merry Go Round Table Discussion...

      December 6, 2010 at 3:38 pm |
  18. Liam

    Look, to begin with the entire concept of some guy in the middle-east building a sea-worthy vessel of such alleged massive proportions with no previous experience in ship-righting is nonsensical. Besides, that section of the globe isn't exactly renowned for it's lush forests that provide oodles and oodles of timber. Gathering a male and female from every species? Please don't tell me that anyone is stupid enough to believe that. What, so this guy globe trekked and managed to find and identify a male and female from each species? From giraffes to sloths, marmosets, elephants, Florida panthers, giant pandas, monitor lizards, polar bears, Bengal tigers and such this one guy did all of that? additionally gathering enough of each creature's natural diet If you sincerely believe that this is in ANY way historical truth you need to seek out a mental health professional and stop eating stupid sandwiches. What ca-rap!

    December 3, 2010 at 2:53 pm |
    • NL

      "Besides, that section of the globe isn't exactly renowned for it's lush forests that provide oodles and oodles of timber."

      Well, not now, it isn't! 😉

      Reminds me of how the prairies were once a dense forrest until Paul Bunyan travelled west.

      December 3, 2010 at 3:09 pm |
  19. Tim

    I have no problem with the tax breaks, as long as it follow 2 criteria.
    One: is it on par with tax breaks given other companies in Ky for the amount of jobs (and type of jobs) it is going to create. One business is as good as another business, whether it is a religious business or a secular business. That is part of separation of church and state.
    Two: What happens if a gay person wants to be employed? How about a woman who wants to wear a head scarf? Is this park going to not hire these people as it goes against it's religious beliefs? That is the double edged sword of funding. You want to be treated like any other business, be prepared to be treated like any other business.

    December 3, 2010 at 2:36 pm |
    • Frogist

      @Tim: No, they will not be hired as Creation museum has a policy of only hiring those who sign a contract swearing that their viewpoint is the true and correct one.

      December 6, 2010 at 3:30 pm |
  20. BrianA

    National Geographic ran a whole show on this topic and proved with out a shadow of a doubt that there was no plausible way to build the arc at that point in history. The engineering and materials didn't exists yet to build a boat big enough to carrie a fraction of what people say Noah did. check it out http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/search-for-noah-s-ark-2569/Overview I believe it airs again Dec12.

    December 3, 2010 at 1:46 pm |
    • NL

      You're forgetting the magic 'Gopher wood' solution. That stuff just had to be buoyant enough to do the job, because people 'know' that it did, see?

      December 3, 2010 at 1:58 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @NL
      I prefer the Tardis Ark explanation – bigger on the inside than on the outside. I also believe that all the miracles attributed to Jesus can be explained by His use of a Sonic Screwdriver.
      And Young Earth theory is perfectly plausible. How is that?
      Let's ask Mr. Data:
      "Using an inverse tachyon pulse amplified through the Ark of the Covenant's reflector dish array, God placed the Earth in a time dilation envelope whose anti-entropic properties account for any appearance of a universe older than 6000 years."

      December 3, 2010 at 2:26 pm |
    • NL

      Doc Vestibule
      "bigger on the inside than on the outside."

      Kinda like the magic tent in Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire?

      December 3, 2010 at 3:14 pm |
    • Frogist

      @NL: I'll bet Harry's tent is bigger on the inside...
      Ahem!
      @Doc Vestibule: I'm not sure even the sonic screwdriver could prevent Jesus from being eaten by a velociraptor. But maybe a bat'leth with basilisk blood on it...

      December 6, 2010 at 3:20 pm |
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