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December 5th, 2010
05:24 PM ET

Pakistani cleric puts price on condemned Christian's head

A Pakistani cleric is offering a nearly $6,000 bounty for the killing of a Christian woman whose death sentence for blasphemy is being challenged by Pakistan's government.

Moulana Yousaf Qureshi made his announcement at a Friday service in the northwestern city of Peshawar. He condemned any effort by Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari to pardon or release Asia Bibi (pictured) and said he and his followers will call on millions to protest if Pakistan's blasphemy laws are amended.

"I will pay 500,000 rupees for the loyal follower of Muhammad who beheads Asia Bibi," Qureshi told a crowd of several hundred people. The amount is equivalent to about $5,800, or more than six times the country's average annual wage.

In November, a Pakistani court found the 45-year-old Bibi guilty of defiling the name of the Prophet Mohammed during a 2009 argument with Muslim fellow field workers. The offense is punishable by death or life imprisonment, according to Pakistan's penal code, and Bibi was sentenced to death.

But an investigation by a Pakistani government ministry found the charges stemmed from "religious and personal enmity" and recommended Bibi's release. Zardari has said he would pardon Bibi, but a court has ruled that the president can't act until the sentence is confirmed by a higher court - a process her lawyer says could take two to three years.

About 2 million Christians live in Pakistan, making up slightly over 1 percent of the officially Islamic nation's population of about 170 million, according to government statistics.

Journalist Nasir Habib and CNN's Reza Sayah contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Christianity • Islam • Pakistan • Violence

soundoff (574 Responses)
  1. rjolay

    Would we want Christianity judged by the behavior of some snake handler that kills a young child, like the fool in Florida ?
    THE MASTER SAID, " JUDGE NOT, THAT YOU WILL NOT ALSO BE JUDGED", didn't He ?
    Are you disagreeing with Christ ? ?

    December 5, 2010 at 5:57 pm |
    • Wake up sheeple!

      rjolay, were you there to hear Christ's words? No. What you read in the King James version of the bible was what was assembled by editors, yes editors, after the Nicene Council (ever read their creed out loud in church without knowing who they were?) decided what messages went in (patriarchy, control, submission to authority, intolerance of other religions), and what messages were to be left out (books by other women, books that referred to Jesus having a twin or other siblings, etc.).

      Most Christians really know so very,very little about the faith they devote their entire lives to. It's actually pretty horrifying.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:03 pm |
    • Nutjob

      Nothing new. Crazy bunch of mother you know what over there...and over here now.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:09 pm |
    • Edwin

      Christians put people to death for witchcraft. Last year in western africa, dozens (maybe hundreds) were executed in the name of christ. Get your facts straight.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:23 pm |
    • jonathan

      sheeple dude give it up...Jesus is manifest to us who believe... πŸ™‚ we're here for you!!! πŸ™‚

      December 5, 2010 at 9:01 pm |
    • jonathan

      @ sheeple ... those in Christ have already passed from death to life...

      December 5, 2010 at 9:02 pm |
    • Bob Bales

      When people were deciding what should be in the Bible, they included what they knew to be true and excluded what they knew to be false.

      December 5, 2010 at 11:46 pm |
  2. Phil

    Death to Islam and your beloved moron Muhammad. I drew Muhammad in a pretty red dress with another man. So now that I've offended your religion and your false prophet come find me and try to do something about it.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:56 pm |
    • jonathan

      πŸ™‚ ...that's not funny..you're a coward to hide.. now that funny every one on this board know of you as a coward.. πŸ™‚

      you even admit it... πŸ™‚

      December 5, 2010 at 8:59 pm |
    • Phil

      I'm in St. Louis, Missouri – South County specifically. You'll have to do the rest of the work to find me, it's not hard. But be warned, I've been carrying a concealed firearm for the past few years.

      December 5, 2010 at 10:39 pm |
  3. Trent

    For their own safety, non-Muslims ought to evacuate. Muslim territory has become unsafe for anyone not of their religion. Let them slaughter each other for a while. They want to be closed off from the world, so let them. When their Western aid stops coming in and we stop buying their blood-oil, then we'll see who's suffering.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:55 pm |
    • ree

      trent, that's the just it when eill it stop?

      December 5, 2010 at 6:13 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Tell me, EXACTLY how much oil is Pakistan exporting, well beyond none?
      Next stupid notion?

      December 5, 2010 at 7:59 pm |
    • jonathan

      No can do baby, Christians are asked by God to endure all these things..trials , temptations, contradiction of sinners....instead the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA would be better served if they would obey my demands.. πŸ™‚
      All I want for Christmas is for the United States of America to send in Stealth Bombers and fighters into Islamic Cities dropping many thousands of bibles written in those nations language the New Testaments ...with James 3:17 written in their language on the inside covers.. which would say, "the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be entreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.....then on the back cover tell them to read all the contents and then Show all Christians how to behave like a real Christian..... πŸ™‚

      December 5, 2010 at 8:56 pm |
    • CalgarySandy

      Our inner cities are dangerous too. Religious and political fanatics are all dangerous but they do not define the mainstream. It appears to me that there are almost as many violent idiots in here than out there. It is easy to see that violent morons live everywhere and would kill the others if they could.
      If the Pakistani government does not listen to the nut bags they will have the whole lot of them go after them. Pakistan is trying to get them out of the Peshwar but that is a traditional tribal area that does not recognize any government.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:50 pm |
  4. Muhammad

    OK everyone, stop all this madness. Stop using my name. All this stuff about me being all important was a joke many years ago, and folks are having a hard time letting it go. And, I want to double the reward on her head, for his.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:55 pm |
  5. Lars Taylor

    I have 1,000,000 rupis for whoever kills the cleric.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:53 pm |
  6. astro206

    How Republican of him!

    December 5, 2010 at 5:53 pm |
    • thorrsman

      Well, that comment puts you in the lead for today's IDIOT Award. Thank you for playing and DON'T enter often.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:08 pm |
  7. thorrsman

    Will Pakistan put this "cleric" on trial if someone does murder this woman? Will they be willing to execute him for murder if SHE is murdered? Somehow, I rather doubt that he would suffer any ill effects if the crime he solicited is carried out.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:53 pm |
  8. TheRationale

    Chalk up another one for the Religion of Peace.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:52 pm |
  9. seriously?

    Good job, CNN, post her picture, so any money hungry crazy over can have an advantage in finding her. This is a sad representation of religion. Organized religion, no matter what sector will always have its extremists and radicals.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:50 pm |
    • jonathan

      @ Micah j ,..yes liberals are always going to bring up the Crusades... the fact is it never should have been done ..then no one could use it as an example...Me, well I like to condemn the Crusades too , even got proof from the bible that strictly condemns the actions of the crusades...Revelation 6:14-17 and Revelation 13:9-10..and Matthew 26:52 ..... these condemn all forms of violence and are set in a way so as to hide out in the open, and yet they are there....Of course governments are given rights to enforce their laws but they are not justified before the throne of God which only justifies the righteous, who are covened by the blood of Jesus..

      December 5, 2010 at 8:44 pm |
  10. sjenner

    The imam should be tried and sentenced to death for soliciting first degree murder.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:49 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Not sure if Pakistan has a first degree murder statute.
      But treason is a charge that is appropriate...

      December 5, 2010 at 7:56 pm |
  11. Jan

    Only one thing to do -haul that imam into custody for inciting violence; and sentence him to some hard jail time!

    December 5, 2010 at 5:45 pm |
  12. Sheila

    Can we offer the same bounty for his head? The cleric's I mean. Serve him right, the arrogant a$$h01e. Maybe even a little more so he's a more tempting target?

    December 5, 2010 at 5:45 pm |
    • Mike

      Sure. I'll pay $6,500 for his head and the heads of any or all known terrorists.

      December 5, 2010 at 5:59 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      My notion was to put twice the price on HIS head. JUST to send a message. And if one of his family does it, they get 2.5 times as much.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:55 pm |
    • CalgarySandy

      Typical. Lets lower ourselves to their level to prove how righteous we are.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:45 pm |
  13. Clay

    Wow... the response of people to this is, "religion sucks"? Really?? How about someone arrest the cleric putting a price tag on this woman's head and release Bibi immediately!

    You're really not doing atheism/agnosticism/apathetic-ism any good by being so numb to compassion.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:45 pm |
  14. Sagebrush Shorty

    Peaceful Islam strikes again.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:44 pm |
    • ummm

      Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
      Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

      December 5, 2010 at 6:23 pm |
  15. herb

    Show me what islam has brought and i will show you DEATH AND DESTRUCTION! This is not a Religion but a sick cult.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:44 pm |
    • sjenner

      You're wrong. Pick up a history book. Various Islamic civilizations have contributed a lot. The sad thing is that the current fools who profess to run the faith and speak for it are insulting it and taking it to a primitive and brutal level it hasn't seen in centuries, if ever.

      December 5, 2010 at 5:50 pm |
    • jms4177

      All religions have a common origon and are all controlled by humans who have not completed the evolution process. If there was a diety out there, how could they have the patience to deal with human stupidity.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:05 pm |
    • ummm

      Kill Nonbelievers
      They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

      December 5, 2010 at 6:21 pm |
    • freewords

      Islam is written few thousand years after the Torah, only the violence and glory to jihad is written by extreme fundamentalist of Judaism called Mohammed.
      What Islam brought to the world? Islam made the world a primitive society and wanted to save them from ignorance.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:37 pm |
    • DurkaDurka

      @Sjenner: If you had done as you told others to do, you would find out that is lam has been this violent since its inception around 1400 years ago. The whole of the religion is based on violence. I love how atheists and sympathizers are quick to point to some violent passages in the bible. Yep it started off rocky but clearly these people have not read the book all the way through. Pick up a history book and read what mo hammad did , read how he lived his life. Come on this is a real challenge. Go look and read for yourselves, SEE FOR YOUR SELF. I can blather on but it wont mean squat. Go educate yourselves. Then come tell me how tolerant and peaceful it is, even compared to the violent history of Christians.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:04 pm |
    • Edwin

      herb,

      Then Christianity is a cult, too, because it is - even now - just as brutal as this man.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:22 pm |
    • CalgarySandy

      Art. Architecture. The Alhambra. Math as we now know it. Medicine as we now know it. Bathing when Christians thought it was a barbaric thing to do. Music.

      You do not define what is a religion. Those who practice it do. It has none of the qualifications of a cult though the Fundamentalists of all faiths, including Christianity do.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:43 pm |
    • Yeah

      Calgary Sandy,

      The many contributions/advancements of the Arab world cannot be attributed to solely to Islam.

      Islam does have some of the hallmarks of a cult. Their very name means "submission".

      December 6, 2010 at 12:44 am |
  16. terry

    Yeah Gary I agree makes me want to go right out and pick one. Maybe Athism is not so bad after all. At least if I do something I only have myself to blame and not say it is "Gods" will...

    December 5, 2010 at 5:44 pm |
  17. Truff

    Proof that Islam, whether, believed by a terrorist or not preaches and practices hatred for all others besides themselves. Christianity as Jesus taught is not about this at all. It's about love. You decide.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:43 pm |
    • Alex

      I have two words for you: The Crusades. Or, three words: The Spanish Inquisition.

      All religions breed hatred, distrust and violence. That is the price of believing in a God.

      December 5, 2010 at 5:51 pm |
    • rjolay

      Proves nothing, but that one cleric is crazy... if everybody generalized about all the crazy preachers out there... imagine... get past the 'one crazy represents all' mentality.
      If Islam were all terrorists, we'd have 7 million terrorists here, and our cities would all be burning already... get a clue, and outgrow the hateful, ignorance !
      We all will live together, or die together in this world.

      December 5, 2010 at 5:52 pm |
    • Truff

      Hey Alex, I said Christianity based on Jesus, not his followers. People will claim to be something they're not to push their agenda. I'd go so far to say that Jesus Himself would not accept any so called Christian's claim just because they claim..you will know them by their fruits. With that said, Mohammads teaching was about the sword...so his followers are the same.

      December 5, 2010 at 5:55 pm |
    • Truff

      It's not about hatred. Simply put...compare what Jesus taught to what Mohammad taught and you will see that you are comparing a divine spirit in Jesus to a common man in Mohammad.

      December 5, 2010 at 5:58 pm |
    • Bitter Bierce

      How do you know so much about Mohammed's words? Have you read the Quran and Sunnah?

      December 5, 2010 at 6:15 pm |
    • Nutjob

      Actually I have read enough to understand the difference between his beliefs and Christs. When Jesus said it is finished he was speaking to Mohammed too.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:17 pm |
    • ummm

      Death for Blasphemy
      One day a man who had an Israelite mother and an Egyptian father got into a fight with one of the Israelite men. During the fight, this son of an Israelite woman blasphemed the LORD's name. So the man was brought to Moses for judgment. His mother's name was Shelomith. She was the daughter of Dibri of the tribe of Dan. They put the man in custody until the LORD's will in the matter should become clear. Then the LORD said to Moses, "Take the blasphemer outside the camp, and tell all those who heard him to lay their hands on his head. Then let the entire community stone him to death. Say to the people of Israel: Those who blaspheme God will suffer the consequences of their guilt and be punished. Anyone who blasphemes the LORD's name must be stoned to death by the whole community of Israel. Any Israelite or foreigner among you who blasphemes the LORD's name will surely die. (Leviticus 24:10-16 NLT)

      December 5, 2010 at 6:20 pm |
    • Henry Lancaster

      Not just The spanish,The English had inquisitions too
      Protestants, etc

      December 5, 2010 at 6:23 pm |
    • TomCom

      you're funny. Christians have very little tolerance and have a history of violence.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:25 pm |
    • Truff

      Can anyone here take they're eyes off so called Christians and put them on Jesus? Do you have any objections to his teachings? Now go compare with that of Mohammed.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:27 pm |
    • jcd

      thank god for religion.
      It sures knnows hoe to screw things up!

      December 5, 2010 at 6:37 pm |
    • DurkaDurka

      @ Alex: Do your homework bud, the Christian crusades were a DIRECT RESPONSE to Muslims who invaded the lands that the CRUSADES "Stole" back. Trying to compare the amount killed in the name of Christ vs the amount killed in the name of al lah is like comparing auschwitz to columbine.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:52 pm |
    • NonPCrealist

      I choose Purple.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:00 pm |
    • Adrian Cabassa

      @Truff So, Jesus' teachings weren't about the sword?

      "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household..."

      December 5, 2010 at 7:21 pm |
    • Edwin

      Truff,

      I suppose you think the Christians in western Africa who execute children (to remove witchcraft) are shining examples of Christianity then?

      Those pastors did not offer money for the deaths - they performed the executions themselves. On children. In the name of Christ.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:21 pm |
    • PR

      Yes LOVE as long as you love the way that religion wants, but don't try to even think that the earth is round (some years ago) then you are a very bad person without deserving love.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:49 pm |
    • Mike

      You know, I searched all over the internet because I am too lazy to read the whole quran. But what I found was that one crazy christian site said Muhammed lived by the sword. Essentially, everyone else said Muhammed was someone who fought for his beliefs, but only got violent when his enemies got violent.

      It also said that he believes that innocent people and even animals should not suffer, and that ONLY the enemies should be targetted. It ALSO said that anyone who was willing to let others live in peace, should themselves be left in peace.

      Stop preaching like Jesus was the only person who did things right. And also, it's just like someone said, Jesus died for molesters, rapists, and murderers. There should be NO forgiveness for these people, these should suffer for eternity.

      December 5, 2010 at 8:30 pm |
    • mikeinrichmond

      Religion isn't the problem, people are. People filled with love and hate permeate all religions and atheists alike. No one's religion, or lack thereof, is better than anyone else's, though it makes some feel better about themselves to believe it is.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:00 pm |
    • Mei

      Alex: The Crusades were more about defense, not attacking non-Christians. The Inquisition was more political than religious and people who are practicing Christians were not killing people. Check out the autobiographies of St. Teresa of Avila and St John of the Cross...two saints who lived during the Inquistion and also speak of Crusades. Most people read biased literature on this subject and don't know the truth.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:12 pm |
    • CalgarySandy

      @DurkaDurka
      Read some college level history instead of some bogus pop history. The crusades were a land grab by the younger sons of Europeans who did not want to split up their lands. The elder got the lands. The younger went to make their fortunes.

      The Muslims were already in the Holy Land and did not conquer it. They freely allowed all Christians and Jews to come to their holy sites. The sacking of Constantinople, an ally of the west, is where the problems between the East and West started. This was the end of all friendliness between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Roman Church. The West was not trustworthy. Also, the Pope guaranteed forgiveness of sins both past and future to any one who went crusading.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:39 pm |
  18. jim

    When was the last time you heard any Christian offer a reward to BEHEAD somebody who used the name of Christ in vane? No – sorry as much as you might want to say this is "religion" this is Islam – and it isn't extremist – unless there are so many "extremists" that they make up a very high percentage of all followers of Mohamed. No other religion on the planet would do such a thing – not now – not today.

    December 5, 2010 at 5:42 pm |
    • rjolay

      Islam didn't offer the bounty... only one crazy cleric... and we Christians have plenty of those, too!

      December 5, 2010 at 5:46 pm |
    • MikefromWV

      You need to look at a little history. Christians, throughout history, have been known for their killings and atrocities, all in the name of God. Every religion has their closets full of dirty little skeletons, Islam is but a single example.

      December 5, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
    • Rod3

      Don't forget people used religion ( christiany) to justify a lot of stuff. Slavery was one of them

      December 5, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
    • Wake up sheeple!

      Jim, the sources I've read say the Crusades were pretty bad. All in the name of Jesus.

      December 5, 2010 at 5:58 pm |
    • Tony

      This cleric spews the same type hate as the right-wing in the GOP. This cleric just posted a wanted poster on this woman – the coward did! The same cowards in the GOP also believe they are doing gods work.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:03 pm |
    • Bitter Bierce

      What about the Christian who killed the abortion doctor (in chruch, no less)? Are you telling me his actions weren't supported and sanctioned by some other Christians?

      December 5, 2010 at 6:07 pm |
    • Saji

      To attribute the war and violence in the world as simply the byproduct of religion is amateur. All a person has to do is survey the contempt and sarcasm in the posts from those who are, presumably, not religious to see that men and women don't need religion to use words to do violence.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:17 pm |
    • ummm

      Kill People Who Don't Listen to Priests
      Anyone arrogant enough to reject the verdict of the judge or of the priest who represents the LORD your God must be put to death. Such evil must be purged from Israel. (Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)

      December 5, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
    • jazz

      @Rjolay: You will find, in the Quran, that Allah has ordered his followers to use the sword on anyone who turns their back on islam. So it's not just a crazy person in islam, the problem is Islam! @MikefromWV, what killings are talking about, are talking about when all throughout history when other nations try to conquer the land of the Hebrews and they fought back in defense? @Rod3, you lack understanding of what slavery was in the biblical times, it was more of a servanthood type (look in the bible for proof on how they were treated), it was not the slavery that was imposed by America (this against everything the bible taught). @Wake up sheeple!, the only reason why the crusades happened, IF you truly read about it, was because Islam was taking over the land of Israel and the crusades happened to defend Israel from Islam take over.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:36 pm |
    • Micah J

      Ahhh the Liberals love to bring up the Crusades whenever CNN publishes an article about another atrocity committed in the name of Islam. Yes many were killed in the name of Jesus. However, Jesus SAID "love your enemies." The Koran SAYS "spread Islam by the sword" and "kill the infidels." Do you see the difference???

      December 5, 2010 at 6:38 pm |
    • Adrian Cabassa

      Actually, no where in the Qur'an does it say spread Islam by the sword or kill the infidels. In fact, the word infidel is what the Christians of the Middle Ages called the Muslims during the Crusades.

      Also, for a cleric to issue a beheading is not from Islam either. Nor is suicide bombing, or terrorism.

      If you believe that the actions of a few represent the beliefs of 1 billion, then you are just as misguided as the terrorist.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:04 pm |
    • Adrian Cabassa

      Another thing, how can you Christians say that Jesus taught peace and love your neighbor and enemies when he said:

      "Do not think that I came to bring peace on the earth; I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I came to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and a man’s enemies will be the members of his household...

      December 5, 2010 at 7:13 pm |
    • Carl

      The pace Islam going many Christians will start enacting an eye for an eye e.g islamist burn a church; christians burn a mosque.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:17 pm |
    • Edwin

      Jim,

      Last year a pastor in (I believe) Arizona called for every Christian everywhere to pray for Obama's death. It is not quite the same, but in many ways it is worse. Praying for your God to execute another human being - that is the Christian way (apparently).

      December 5, 2010 at 7:20 pm |
    • PR

      May be not for using Crist name but if you said the earth is round YES.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:41 pm |
    • Marv@P'cola

      Jim,
      This is Pakistani Law, not religion. Read the article carefully.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:57 pm |
    • Micah J

      2:191 And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter. And fight not with them at the Inviolable Place of Worship until they first attack you there, but if they attack you (there) then slay them. Such is the reward of disbelievers.

      2:193 And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah.

      2:216 Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that ye hate a thing which is good for you, and it may happen that ye love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth, ye know not.

      2:244 Fight in the way of Allah, and know that Allah is Hearer, Knower.

      5:33 The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom.

      December 5, 2010 at 8:05 pm |
    • Micah J

      and let me guess, "Jihad" doesnt really mean "Holy War" either??? I have heard this myth as well...

      December 5, 2010 at 8:08 pm |
    • Sean

      Jim, I have a couple words for you...CRUSADES and INQUISITION. Why don't cha read up on 'em pal....

      December 5, 2010 at 8:13 pm |
    • Mei

      Most historical violence by Christians was done in defense. Or political persons who didn't really practice their Christian faith. So stop discriminating against Christianity.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:09 pm |
    • Art

      Adrian Cabassa.. You are wrong. Quran 9:29 clearly states for non-believers (non-Muslims) to either convert to Islam, live as dhimmis and pay jizya (I assume you know what those 2 words mean) or die. There is no mistaking what it says.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:32 pm |
    • CalgarySandy

      Having been raised in a Baptist Church; which began in the US not that long ago and was and in some ways still is a cult; I fully believe that the fundamentalist would kill everyone they disagree with if the law allowed it. They teach their children that they will go to hell if they do not follow the path laid out for them. Anyone who would say such a thing to a child is a spirit killer already. They should not be allowed to breed.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:32 pm |
    • Pat

      As someone pointed out, abortion doctors have been killed multiple times by nutjob Christians.

      And here's a fun little quote: "We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war." That's by Ann Coulter. And the "war" she refers to is against Islam in general, so using your standard of one adherent speaking for all, Christianity is attacking Islam as well.

      The best evidence that you are irrational, though? The fact you feel obliged to depend Christians as a group, despite the fact that the only thing you all have in common BY DEFINITION is believing in Jesus as a god. You've sold your soul to a single ideal, and sadly, it's people just like that who place bounties on innocent people's heads just for asserting their unpopular faith. And the similarities between you and your Islamic cleric friend don't stop there – I guarantee that if America was as politically restless and intractably tumultuous as Pakistan is, you would clamor for MY head on a pike for the things I am saying. When ideology replaces brainpower, the only remainder is hatred.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:45 pm |
    • Micah J

      @Pat, you obviously believe in nothing and that is your choice and your right. But comparing a few nut-jobs that kill Doctors who perform abortions in the name of God, to the tens of thousands of innocent people that have been killed in the name of Allah is simply ignorant.

      December 5, 2010 at 11:14 pm |
    • Michelle

      No, I haven't seen Christians offer a bounty for one woman's head. But I've seen Christians bomb abortion clinics, shoot and kill ob/gyns, go to foreign countries expressly to kill Muslims, molest children, and protest at our soldiers' funerals by hurling insults at them and their families, and commit many other crimes. What's your point?

      December 6, 2010 at 12:05 am |
    • Micah J

      @Adrian Cabassa: you are taking scripture out of context which unfortunately is common. A lot of people misinterpret this scripture. You have to realize that in the days of Jesus, he was speaking mostly to Jews and he was referring to the fact that if a Jew were to believe in him as the messiah he would be shunned and/or cast away by his family. In other words he was speaking metaphorically.

      December 6, 2010 at 12:05 am |
    • Kevin

      That's pretty much the history of Christianity: Kill the nonbelievers.

      December 6, 2010 at 12:07 am |
    • Michelle

      @Micah – how many Muslims are killed every day by Christian soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq? How many people have been converted to Christianity at the end of a gun or sword? To think that any religion is without blame is naive and ignorant. Simply because you think Christians are better or less violent than Muslims doesn't make it so.

      December 6, 2010 at 12:10 am |
    • Michelle

      Quote from Micah @Adrian Cabassa: you are taking scripture out of context which unfortunately is common. A lot of people misinterpret this scripture

      And yet you're absolutely certain, you know exactly what the author meant? Why? Did God come down and speak to you personally? And I assume you don't think that you've taken any Muslim scripture out of context, right? Your arrogance and conviction prevents you from seeing any other point of view with an open mind. Exactly the problem with the man who has put a bounty on this woman's head. He's convinced he's completely right and justified, too.

      December 6, 2010 at 12:14 am |
    • Micah J

      @Kevin: i think you have the history of Christianity confused with the history of Islam. Yes, many atrocities have been committed in the name of Jesus (the Crusades, as most non-believers love to point out) BUT, Jesus NEVER instructed to do this or would approve of this. Yet the Quran clearly approves of this. You are blaming Christianity for men hi-jacking the scriptures. I suggest you read up on the Bible and Quran.

      December 6, 2010 at 12:22 am |
    • Micah J

      @Michelle: You missed my points in an amazing fashion. I was simply referring to what Jesus said, which is all about love and peace. What do you believe in? Anything? Or do you just come on here to shake your finger at those you disagree with without anything to back it up???

      December 6, 2010 at 1:08 am |
    • Kell

      @Adrian Cabassa
      Too bad you took that completely out of context. A few passages before that was said/written/translated, the following was said/written/translated:
      'Lo, I do send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves, be ye therefore wise as the serpents, and simple as the doves. And, take ye heed of men, for they will give you up to sanhedrims, and in their synagogues they will scourge you, 18 and before governors and kings ye shall be brought for my sake, for a testimony to them and to the nations. And whenever they may deliver you up, be not anxious how or what ye may speak, for it shall be given you in that hour what ye shall speak; for ye are not the speakers, but the Spirit of your Father that is speaking in you.'

      After your selected quote the following:
      'He who is loving father or mother above me, is not worthy of me, and he who is loving son or daughter above me, is not worthy of me, and whoever doth not receive his cross and follow after me, is not worthy of me. He who found his life shall lose it, and he who lost his life for my sake shall find it.'

      Basically, the whole point being made was that Jesus was saying that he was not there to stop war on the earth, but to give salvation in the afterlife. War was still going to happen, followers would be attacked, beaten and even killed for believing, but that they should remain strong in their beliefs as they would have salvation and redemption in the afterlife.

      December 6, 2010 at 1:53 am |
  19. RnB

    Yes, Jesus died for rapists and gays

    December 5, 2010 at 5:40 pm |
    • jordans

      And for the hate mongers

      December 5, 2010 at 6:53 pm |
    • Jason

      Yay, more ranting tools who don't understand what they're ranting about. Jesus dying certainly didn't automatically save anyone, particular those you mention. But they do have a chance for redemption, as anyone should given our own (typically liberal legal) standards.

      December 5, 2010 at 8:29 pm |
    • Mei

      Yes, Jesus died for all but He never condoned sin. In fact, Jesus told the sinners He ate and dined with, "go and sin no more."

      December 5, 2010 at 9:08 pm |
    • damnyankee

      How convenient everyone seems to speak the first half of a topic and conveniently forgets the second half:

      I have rights...but with rights come responsibility. I have a right to free speech but that ends with my neighbors find it offensive. I have a right to own a firearm but that ends when I point it at my neighbors.

      In this example, Jesus died for all sin but Salvation is given for those who are truly repentant.

      December 5, 2010 at 10:20 pm |
    • mark

      Not his own you still like a dead man .

      December 6, 2010 at 5:22 am |
  20. Gary

    Isn't religion great!!!

    December 5, 2010 at 5:37 pm |
    • abel

      Do you mean islam?

      December 5, 2010 at 5:40 pm |
    • Rod3

      I'm sure he say religion. All of them are dangerous.

      December 5, 2010 at 5:45 pm |
    • Wake up sheeple!

      Gandhi said it best: "I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ." For thousands of years, organized religion has led to unconscionable actions, performed in the name of INSERT DEITY NAME HERE here, that have cost untold millions of lives.

      Not only does religion kill, it is then used to excuse the killers for killing. "Thou shalt not kill." What a joke.

      December 5, 2010 at 5:55 pm |
    • Saji

      Assuming that you're not a religious person, you're show of contempt illustrates that violence is a much more deeply rooted problem than religion.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:09 pm |
    • John

      Zen

      December 5, 2010 at 6:20 pm |
    • ummm

      Kill Followers of Other Religions.
      1) If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall fear and never do such evil as this in your midst. (Deuteronomy 13:7-12 NAB)

      December 5, 2010 at 6:22 pm |
    • TomCom

      Don't our men and women at war die for us also?

      December 5, 2010 at 6:23 pm |
    • Concerned citizen

      Hey morons there is such a thing as ATHEISTIC RELIGION – Communism, Nazism,
      Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, just another utopian vision twisted in to genocide and mass murder.
      Any ideology can be twisted by the evil to be oppressive. It's not just religion

      December 5, 2010 at 6:35 pm |
    • Godslayer

      As long as there is man, there is god, as long as there is god, there is war, so lets do the world a favor and kill ourselves off eh? at least then there won't be any one to fight over.

      December 5, 2010 at 6:42 pm |
    • Conch

      @Brian. McVeigh was an Athiest, but I agree with you. Religion, though, isn't the problem...it is REVEALED religion. Religion itself is benign. It is when you claim to have been REVEALED to, the word of god that problems begin, for whom is to deny that god spoke to you.
      I am a Deist. My religion believes in God, that Nature and Creation is our bible and the words are written in mathematics. It is a religion based on the individual and not dogma.
      Rev. Keith R. Wright (Deist)
      contributor, "Deist: So THAT'S what I am!"

      December 5, 2010 at 6:59 pm |
    • Bruce H

      The supreme arrogance of this cleric who thinks that he is above the law of his country, he is an insult to Islam and his religious colleagues who should all condemn his actions as those of a heretic. Other leaders should work to remove this cleric from all positions of power to halt his insults to Islam. His acts are disgusting and unworthy of any religious leader of Islam.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:33 pm |
    • Marv@P'cola

      Get the facts straight–this is Pakistani Law, not mandated by Islam.

      December 5, 2010 at 7:53 pm |
    • Middle Path

      It is irrational to judge a religion by an imperfect man that merely claims to follow that religion religion. Let us not be lazy an read the actual text that they follow and see if it promotes these ideas. Indeed it is evident in the past that rulers have made up lies and successfully convince people it is part of their religion and was able to do such because the people dont read their own books! Indeed most people dont think, read, and are lazy

      December 5, 2010 at 8:19 pm |
    • Jason

      "Isn't religion great!!!"

      Yes, it is. Certainly can be, anyway, and for the most part is. But of course you are referring specifically to certain extremists in a fundamentalist theocracy, completely unlike religion that most of the rest of the world enjoys. Cool fallacious reasoning bro.

      December 5, 2010 at 8:27 pm |
    • Clearvoice1

      Can you believe that in 21st century there are idiots like Moulana Yousaf Qureshi. My dog has bigger heart than this murderer. I don't really think people like him are worth to be called human.

      December 5, 2010 at 8:38 pm |
    • brenda

      Once again this is not about religion – this is about the abuse of power

      December 5, 2010 at 8:58 pm |
    • Sam

      Religion in general creates too much hate.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:05 pm |
    • Mei

      May God bless this Christian woman and her family. Even if the court pardons her, it appears she will have to fear for her life outside prison. There are many evil people in that country if they feel one mother is such a terrible threat. May our Lord help her in her great need. And her poor children who will end up motherless due to the evil people who want to kill her.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:07 pm |
    • Happyreaper5

      Ms. Asia Bibi needs to be out of the clutches of the crazies. Where are the "good" Muslims during all this?

      December 5, 2010 at 9:10 pm |
    • Russ

      Sure, there are loads of unscrupulous actions conceived in the name of some deity, but there are many more that are conceived to benefit mankind. So, throw your stones, but I'll put up the kindness of millions as a counter to any argument you make. Besides, what are you really using for the basis of your argument? Atheists are all good? Hitler, Stalin, Mussalini? All good guys? Fascists never committed atrocities? Please. Religious and non religious believers screw up, that's some wiggly high horse you are riding.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:10 pm |
    • kurious

      NO " religion" is free from violence when the opportunity arises. The Buddhists killed too. How about in China, Vietnam, Korea and other Asiatic countries? The so called religion is just an excuse for some to dominate and exploit l others. Someone prominent said, "if you do not believe in Christ, you will go to hell." So more than half the humanity is condemned to hell. What an opportunity for the evangelists, Mullahs, priests and pundits? No different than the tribal heads of the past in all continents.
      Oh God! please let us learn to understand and tolerate each other now that the world has shrunk so much.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:28 pm |
    • CalgarySandy

      Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus. It is a creation of Constantine and his hand picked bishops. They destroyed other writings (Dead Sea Scrolls and Gnostic Gospels) and groups of other early Christians who did not fit the official mold. This was done in order to get and retain control over the populace and to put an end to fighting between the various faiths that was disrupting the empire. There is no resemblance between any of the current Christian groups and the teachings as seen in even the limited coverage of the Bible. Modern Christianity is a tool of the wealthy to keep the plebs down and themselves up. This is not what is called for in the Bible where the goal is equality for all and an equitable distribution of goods.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:28 pm |
    • Let Us Prey

      http://pakobserver.net/detailnews.asp?id=64663

      Did any one bother to read the Wikileaks – U.S. / Pakistani information download prior to the DDoS?

      FYI. Dated today.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:40 pm |
    • Gerald

      You know the old saying, ' Guns don't kill people, people kill people'. Same with religion. If these nuts did not have religion to base their hate on, they'll find something else. Leave religion alone.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:54 pm |
    • whatnext

      "Wake up sheeple!" Wake up, mindless drone.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:54 pm |
    • hans

      Religion does not save, only Jesus Christ, He is the Way, The Truth, The Life, killing the
      body they can do all they long, the soul, they cannot. Being absent from the body is being in His presence.

      December 5, 2010 at 9:59 pm |
    • John Olsen

      I notice that re Islam, certain people say, "Islam didn't do that, just some crazy cleric did. Islam is a religion of peace.'

      But re Chrsitianity, the same people say, "It's not just some crazy Christian sect, it's Christianity in general that does this stuff."

      If you look at the two biggest instances of Christian brutality – probably the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition, they were both the work of the Roman Catholic Church. The Orthodox Church, by contrast suffered under Islamic rule for 14 centuries.

      December 5, 2010 at 10:08 pm |
    • Geoffrey Sperl

      @mangoose: First: All religions are cults – look up the word. Second: If you think religion is only to be practiced within a house of worship or at home, then I'm not sure what books you've been reading. The Bible actively encourages its readers to evangelize non-Christians. Other religions also encourage conversion and the only way you can talk to the non-converted is outside of the places where only the converted are at.

      December 5, 2010 at 11:03 pm |
    • Porter H Watson

      Let a price be put on the Pakistani cleric's head if misfortune should befall this innocent women.

      December 5, 2010 at 11:20 pm |
    • Michelle

      @Saji – so was it sarcasm that caused the crusades? The Inquisition? The current war between Palestinians and Israelis? The terrorist attacks in Mumbai, NYC, Bali, etc etc? No. It was religion in all of those cases and hundreds more. To think anything else responsible shows your ignorance. People have been killing in the name of religion since time began.

      December 6, 2010 at 12:01 am |
    • FedUp

      No, he meant religion... this is a religious issue....it doesn't matter which religion it is..... crime.....death based on religious beliefs... Christians have plenty of blood on their hands as well ...religion itself is just a means for 'man' to abuse, kill, take ... control. Period. Anything good is overlooked in favor of the 'laws' which are twisted and used to benefit the few in control.

      December 6, 2010 at 12:07 am |
    • A

      Too dumb for science? Try religion.

      December 6, 2010 at 12:29 am |
    • wang long

      The religion of peace never fails to impress.

      December 6, 2010 at 12:43 am |
    • Matt M

      If you are willing to generalize islam as a violent religion which condones murder, you must also be willing to generalize christianity as a religion of pedophilia which encourages raping children. I'm not a fan of Islam, or religion in general, but I don't feel it necessary to paint an entire demographic as violent based on the actions of a few.

      December 6, 2010 at 1:00 am |
    • Gatekeeper

      Religion should not be protected when it becomes a politic statement. Take this women in, protect her and strike hard at anybody that would harm her. By the same token, do not let any Christians seize on this like they own the right. They're have more people died from religion than have ever been "saved" by it.

      December 6, 2010 at 1:10 am |
    • Brandon

      This is why islam is dangerous. You don't hear christian pastors commanding their church to behead, or even harm anyone.

      Islam=Terrorism. Plain and Simple.

      December 6, 2010 at 1:14 am |
    • Krush

      I've never heard of a priest, preacher, rabbi, or the Dalai Lama, or guru ever offer a reward for the murder of a person that disagreed with their faiths.

      December 6, 2010 at 1:32 am |
    • billp

      Agreed. If this woman worked at an abortion clinic, conservatives Christians would be applauding those who tried to kill her. All organized religions are nothing more than vehicles through which people claim divine justification for their hatred, intolerance and lust for power.

      "It is necessary for salvation for every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."- Pope Boniface VII

      December 6, 2010 at 1:35 am |
    • Paul

      Oh, yep, let's be sure to be a bunch of blind ignoramuses. As an atheist, I agree, religions are delusional, pure and simple. But one of these is not like the other, and I do get so ^&^%$ tired of my atheist fellows' blithe ignorance of the biggest cancer of them all. The next time you know of a droning sea of morons chanting their approbation of a %^&^%$ beheading because Buddha, Jesus, or the Great Sea Turtle was called a poo-poo pants, let me know. Until then, wake the hell up.

      December 6, 2010 at 2:35 am |
    • Diane

      burning korans seem to get their attention alrighty

      December 6, 2010 at 2:47 am |
    • mmi16

      Let's have a $1B bounty on Moulana Yousaf Qureshi

      December 6, 2010 at 5:00 am |
    • mark

      no they meant religion and all of them they s- and you know it . lets kill you in the name of who oh we will call her christ

      December 6, 2010 at 5:20 am |
    • areyoukidding

      I'll offer 10,000 for the head of the cleric.

      December 6, 2010 at 6:48 am |
    • David Johnson

      @Marv@P'cola

      You said: "Get the facts straight–this is Pakistani Law, not mandated by Islam."

      Perhaps not mandated, but certainly "inspired" by the religion of Islam.

      Look at all the blue laws that have been inspired by Christianity in this country. Some even called for the death penalty at one time. Religion is chillingly evil. It is a cancer on the world.

      Have a good day!

      December 8, 2010 at 8:02 am |
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