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December 12th, 2010
10:58 AM ET

Pastor who threatened to burn Qurans invited to England

Britain's government is considering whether to block the Florida pastor who threatened to burn copies of the Quran earlier this year from entering the country, a top government official said Sunday.

Terry Jones called off his planned protest amid increasing pressure from U.S. and international leaders. But he has been invited to speak at a 2011 rally by the English Defence League, a British far-right movement.

But British Home Secretary Theresa May, whose office can bar people from entering the United Kingdom, said the government is weighing whether to keep Jones out.

"Pastor Terry Jones has been on my radar for a few months now" she told the Sky News network. "It wasn't clear that he was definitely coming to the UK. But if it is now clear that he's definitely coming to the UK, then of course this is a case that I will be actively looking at."

The English Defence League pushes an anti-Islamic message with provocative marches through neighborhoods with large Muslim populations. It has cultivated links with European far-right groups with a similar agenda, such as controversial Dutch lawmaker Geert Wilders' anti-Muslim Party for Freedom, and asked Jones to speak at one of their rallies in February, a spokesman told CNN.

"He called us up and asked if he could come along to one of our demonstrations and speak and we said, 'Why not?' " Steve Simmons said. "We told him that as long as he doesn't break any existing law, we'd be delighted to have him here. We value the freedom of speech and surely he is entitled to his freedom of speech."

But Mohammed Shafiq, chief executive of the Ramadhan Foundation, blasted the EDL's invitation and called on the government to ban him from Britain. Shafiq said Jones' "real agenda of racism and fascism" was bad for Britain.

"I am a strong defender of free speech, but when someone who will incite hatred towards Muslims and furthermore there is a real threat of violence, then the government must ban that person," said Shafiq, whose Muslim youth organization aims to promote co-existence among communities. "I would remind Mr. Jones that the UK is proud of British Muslims, our heritage and our contributions here. We are an integral part of our great country and if you come here to promote hatred and division then stay home."

Jones had planned to burn the Muslim holy book at his Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida, on September 11 to protest what the church calls the "demonic" beliefs of Islam. The stunt provoked demonstrations around the Muslim world and led top U.S. officials to call on Jones to cancel, arguing that the anger it would stir put Americans overseas at risk.

After Jones yielded to that pressure, the city of Gainesville said that it would bill him more than $180,000 for security costs stemming from the threatened protest.

- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Florida • Islam • Quran • United Kingdom • United States

soundoff (228 Responses)
  1. KingDave2

    Christians killing doctors, protesting funerals. Catholics abusing children, money laundering, Muslim blowing up everything and themselves. They all have contempt for women. No evidence ever of the religious tolerating one another. But the religious still insist "We do some good, sometimes....We think?"

    December 12, 2010 at 12:30 pm |
    • berith

      really? no evidence of religions ever tolerating each other ever? i think the fairly uneventful day-to-day life of most americans is evidence of some tolerance. when i go out today, i will surprisingly not be on a holy war. i also don't expect one directed towards my family and me as we go take part in some very christmas oriented activities. in the event that we are attacked when we visit santa, or go to the tableaux i would venture to say that would be the exception to the norm. i don't disagree that extremist of all faiths give a bad name to religion, but to say their is no tolerance is just wrong. at least in my neck of the woods.

      December 12, 2010 at 1:00 pm |
    • Jerry

      I have yet to read a news report of a bunch of Methodists attacking a Jewish synagogue. Or Baptists fire-bombing a Roman Catholic cathedral. All in all, I'd have to say U.S. churches are generally pretty tolerant of one another (a few bigoted individuals within each group notwithstanding).

      December 12, 2010 at 1:13 pm |
    • trainwreck

      when people kill in the name of Islam or Christianity they are heretics and not following their religions

      December 12, 2010 at 2:17 pm |
  2. Brown Panther

    KKK, british version. At least he'll get to enjoy free tea and crumpets 😉

    December 12, 2010 at 12:29 pm |
  3. citizenn

    Muslims are people who have never emerged from the Dark Ages.

    December 12, 2010 at 12:27 pm |
    • john

      Have you? ...it looks like you did not neither.

      December 12, 2010 at 12:31 pm |
    • tt

      @ john:
      At least he has a reasonable mastery of the english language (unlike you)

      December 12, 2010 at 12:35 pm |
    • steven harnack

      Maybe if they hadn't had a white christian boot on their necks for hundreds of years it would be different?

      December 12, 2010 at 12:41 pm |
    • julian

      niether have you. Because back then, the truth spread slowly

      December 12, 2010 at 12:42 pm |
    • omy808

      @tt The word "English" is always capitalized. Oh, and nice punctuation and grammar!

      December 12, 2010 at 1:05 pm |
    • trainwreck

      people could say the same about the "fundamentalist christians" stuck on old testament laws which even Jesus said were for the past, muslim inventions and discoveries are part of what got the world out of the dark ages

      December 12, 2010 at 7:28 pm |
  4. Robinhoodlum

    Why, I think I'd like to invite him to England too...or to any country other than the U.S.!

    December 12, 2010 at 12:27 pm |
  5. stupidchristian

    The world would be better off without stupid religions and hate groups.

    December 12, 2010 at 12:26 pm |
  6. stupidchristian

    This crazy old man has more power than Pastor long dong. 🙂

    December 12, 2010 at 12:25 pm |
  7. Red

    This guy is an embarrassment.

    December 12, 2010 at 12:23 pm |
  8. stupidchristian

    I wonder why those stupid christians would listen to this evil man

    December 12, 2010 at 12:22 pm |
    • Jerry

      For the same reason radicalized Muslims listen to their wingnut Imams - weak minds.

      December 12, 2010 at 1:04 pm |
  9. Sage

    It is a scary thing that our home grown fascists are linking up across borders with more established and better organized fascist groups. Not good. Ban him. And keep the European fascists from coming here to add their voice to our indigenous hate groups.

    December 12, 2010 at 12:22 pm |
    • Frogist

      @Sage: Good point. They are coalescing. I find it truly disturbing that they would march through muslim communities like the article says. It smacks of the KKK and their methods. It is truly a scary thing. I am all for freedom of speech. But I wonder where the line is between that right and inciting violence. It sounds like a dangerous situation.
      It seems to me that he invited himself along. He's looking for the attention. I wish there was a way to not let him have it.
      I suppose the only way to really counter him and the EDL is to hold a counter protest. The most powerful image is one of peaceful resistance. We remember the Rev Dr King, Ghandi, the students in Tianemen Square etc etc. I hope for every one of their demonstrations they have a group willing to stand in opposition. But I wonder if that's like asking that black people would stand up in their neighbourhoods against white supremacist rallies. They would be too afraid for their families and their lives. I certainly would be afraid, in that position.

      December 13, 2010 at 9:36 am |
  10. Joe

    money money money money money. attention attention attention.

    December 12, 2010 at 12:21 pm |
  11. Bob

    I'd like to kick this pastors ass.

    December 12, 2010 at 12:18 pm |
    • thorrsman

      There is no secret as to where he lives. Go there and actually DO IT, rather than talk bold on the Internet. Of course, the pastor looks like a rather tough bird, so I suspect he might well hand you your head if you did manage to find the stones to back your macho blather.

      December 12, 2010 at 12:22 pm |
    • pumpernickel1988

      Makes your line of thinking sound like a great alternative when you threaten violence.....NOT!

      December 12, 2010 at 12:56 pm |
  12. luckluck

    where is the freedom of speech for wikileaks?

    December 12, 2010 at 12:17 pm |
    • Mike, not me

      Along side the "freedom of speech " for me to post Your name address social security number and bank account information? What does would that upset you? Where's the freedom?

      December 13, 2010 at 10:05 am |
  13. Lee

    Abrahamic religions puts too much store in holy books. Anyone who is that hung up over a book, no matter if it is the Torah, Christian Bible or Koran has some serious psychological issues. There are much more important things going on in the world than someone buring a bunch of paper when there are hundreds of thousands of not millions of copies of the same book.

    December 12, 2010 at 12:10 pm |
  14. Jack

    this guy looks good!

    December 12, 2010 at 12:08 pm |
    • luckluck

      this guy looks ugly

      December 12, 2010 at 12:18 pm |
  15. velaszqz

    For every one of these guys there's 100 muslims like him
    Toss all the religion fairy tales onto the bonfire.

    December 12, 2010 at 12:04 pm |
    • luckluck

      no Muslim have ever threatened to burn the Bible

      December 12, 2010 at 12:19 pm |
    • thorrsman

      @luckluck
      No, they just burn them. And sometimes the Christians that own them too.

      December 12, 2010 at 12:23 pm |
    • tt

      @luckluck:
      Wake up...Muslims burn the bible all the time...
      Not that I care, as all religious fanatics are delusional (at best)

      December 12, 2010 at 12:32 pm |
    • Cyrus

      No real Muslim would at ever burn the Bible or any other religious books. Jesus is the most revered prophet in Quran, and it's required of every single Muslim to respect and abide by the "holy books" and the prophets who came before Mohammed. That's one of the "pillars" of Islamic faith. There is actually a whole section in the Quran dedicated to Jesus, Mary and John the Baptist. You would know that, if you only read.

      December 12, 2010 at 1:00 pm |
    • Muneef

      Never any Muslim would burn any book or bible that is considered Holy for containing the words of God.
      Never we learnt of any burning to Christians and their bibles by Muslims not in the Quran nor any other source,but we have learnt from the Quran that the Jews did burn Christians or believers for converting can be found: Quran Sura 85: verse 01 to to 08.

      December 12, 2010 at 1:18 pm |
    • Fawad

      We Muslims respect Christianity and The holy Bible because it is also Allah's message to humans. Its another topic that the bible is not entirely in its original form so the message is lost. Holy Quran is word by word in its original form. If there is any retard who, in the name of Islam is talking about burning Bible, he is not following Islam, period!

      Your media portrays Muslims by showing those uneducated people living in tribal areas who are mostly smugglers or cultivating opium in mountains and have no clue about Islam. This pastor may be from the same tribe harvesting hatred.

      December 12, 2010 at 1:18 pm |
  16. Grokh

    He us a nutcase just like anyother religious nutcase.

    Point is though, we cant say anything about muslims because they are sensitive about their religion, so sensitive that they will kill anyone who says something.
    It is not the bombings that spread terrorism alone,
    But the fact i cant say anything against muslims is what truely frightens me.

    December 12, 2010 at 12:01 pm |
    • Jerry

      You'd be in just as much danger making anti-Christian statements to White Supremacist Christian Fundamentalists.

      December 12, 2010 at 12:59 pm |
    • Muneef

      Guess it depends on how it is said, as a constructive debate or as in ignorance of hatred? Watch out minding your chosen words and you would be fine after all Muslims mind a lot that God Allah,Quran,messengers are not insulted in any debate but the rest they are not so sensitive about as long as it is within morals and ethics...

      December 12, 2010 at 1:03 pm |
    • Mike

      Cyrus:

      Ever heard of the No True Scotsman fallacy? Just curious, because you just used it.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman

      December 12, 2010 at 1:18 pm |
  17. truthywood

    Muslims countries should be banning western intervenations what ever it takes, because these kind of Nazi nutcases are no different than those who killed Red Indians, If you want to save your countries than you should stop western interventions in your countries.

    December 12, 2010 at 12:01 pm |
    • SigmundFreud

      Could you please repeat your comments in English?

      Or do I understand that you have no problems with hate-mongers, as long as they hate women, Christians, and Jews?

      December 12, 2010 at 12:06 pm |
    • steven harnack

      Hey Siggy, the only thing westerners have ever done in Muslim countries is to enslave and kill the people there and for that you want love in return?

      December 12, 2010 at 12:34 pm |
    • thorrsman

      @steven harnack
      Whaty, Westerners have acted just like Muslims? Why, how dare they!

      December 12, 2010 at 12:47 pm |
  18. Terry P

    This guy is a nutcase – but his message is valid.

    December 12, 2010 at 11:46 am |
    • Daniel

      His message is valid in what way?

      December 12, 2010 at 11:51 am |
    • william

      Amen to that brother.......

      December 12, 2010 at 11:52 am |
    • Jarrod McCarthy

      His message may have been valid but it was almost silenced by his methods. You can have a righteous cause but if you are doing harm to spread it then you are no better then Christianity a hundred years ago or Islam with all of it's forced conversions and mass killings globally.

      December 12, 2010 at 12:08 pm |
    • Osti

      His message is the only thing you know about him, which would validate your thinking that he's a nutcase. But you believe his message is valid... So you're a nutcase too?

      December 12, 2010 at 12:52 pm |
    • Jerry

      No. It absolutely is not valid in any sense of the word.

      December 12, 2010 at 12:55 pm |
    • nateD2002

      This guy is a valid human being, his message is the message of a nutcase. There I fixed it for ya.

      December 12, 2010 at 1:10 pm |
    • trainwreck

      he is as christian as oscar meir is vegetarian

      December 12, 2010 at 2:14 pm |
    • 5t1v

      the man is just not the brightest light on the dashboard.

      December 12, 2010 at 3:06 pm |
    • jonathan

      I agree he should have burned that Koran...to back down to the weeny US military crying about their dangers is absolute weenie like..To many people have died through the century's to give people like Terry Jones the right to express their contempt legally for anything in these United States...to deny him that right is dis- honor to all the past soldiers who sacrificed their life ..What a disgrace these kind today are!!! What in the hell are they teaching them at West point.. 🙁

      December 12, 2010 at 5:01 pm |
    • ICEMAN

      @5t1v you said "the man is just not the brightest light on the dashboard".

      i say that he is and it's the check engine light, lol

      December 13, 2010 at 6:19 am |
  19. Gene Dries

    isn't this that guy that builds motorcycles and argues with his sons...?

    December 12, 2010 at 11:43 am |
    • DuFResne

      He sure does look like Paul Teutul from American Chopper. I mean the pastor looks like Paul Teutul after a massive heart stroke.

      December 12, 2010 at 12:04 pm |
    • Gene

      Naw, it's a slimmed-down David Crosby.

      December 12, 2010 at 3:58 pm |
  20. MJ

    Well let us see how credible is Miss May, this year she banned the respected Muslim preacher Dr Zakir Naik. now let us see if she would really put her power to good use and ban this hate monger.

    December 12, 2010 at 11:18 am |
    • Daveak47

      "Dr." Naik, Isn't that the same guy who said in an interview the Islam is the only right religion and backward Islamic countries are correct to ban all the other religions and treat non-muslims as second class citizens?

      I truly think idiots like that deserved to be banned in addition to idiots like this pastor.

      December 12, 2010 at 1:16 pm |
    • Worried

      I don't agree with burning the Quran as I don't agree with Muslims burning the Bible and the American flag however they do it and are very proud of it. I know some Muslims and know that they are very radical regarding religion and USA. Why is that? If they don't like us and cannot respect us why is that they always want to be near us? OK. to kill the infidels.....

      December 12, 2010 at 1:31 pm |
    • Moe

      Worried
      , hope you have been reading history, It is The US who wants to be around Musilims who wons the main source of energy (OIL, OIL, OIL). They will never leave the middle east alone, and US will do anything to stay there. That what anger the muslims. Plus Western societies want to impose their idiologies and Captalizem So they can stay in control. Thats why the Arabs and Muslims are mad. If the US stays aout of their business believe me you will find theses muslims the most peacefull people. Just Imagine China Invaded the US, What will you do????

      December 12, 2010 at 1:47 pm |
    • Richard

      You wonder if any of these pathetic, left-wing appeasers EVER had the guts to say anything against radical Muslims. They seem pretty free with their opinions on those attempting to exercise things like the right of assembly. I guess blowing people up isn't as bad as "hate speech?"

      December 12, 2010 at 2:00 pm |
    • Worried

      @ Moe

      I agree with you on your point about the history. I don't agree with any country taking over another or even trying to take advantage however I know most of those situation have involved Muslims that profit and open the doors to greedy Americans and others. I've never supported anything like that and never will. I still do believe there are a lot of Muslims in USA that hate Americans and act very dangerously. Others are just like normal people because they think. Everyone has the right to have their beliefs but without "killing the infidels". By saying this I'm not judging all of the Muslims ! You must accept that Muslims coming into this country demand special rights even when they follow the "rule" of killing the infidels. So we're not the only ones trying to take advantage of other's country. The situation with the Muslim girl working for Disney is sad! After receiving the citizenship she sued the company because of religious beliefs.... why not before? An American cannot dare to do this in your country! So look at the actual History too! Not just the past History! You seem not to be a radical Muslim and so you deserve my respect. Best regards

      December 12, 2010 at 2:02 pm |
    • P'Cola

      @WORRIED: Please show me evidence of a Muslim burning the Bible. Thanks in advance.

      December 12, 2010 at 2:09 pm |
    • noroman

      @Worried: Please elaborate where have you seen or read a Muslim burning the Holy Bible? It is a sacred book for Muslims for your infromation.

      December 12, 2010 at 2:10 pm |
    • P'Cola

      @WORRIED: The Muslim at Disney had every right to demand, sue, etc in order to have a fair hearing concerning her religious dress code. This is what America is about, freedom of religion and expression. The courts has every right to permit or deny her request. We should not be angry about this but praise America for the freedoms to do so.

      December 12, 2010 at 2:15 pm |
    • Jumbie

      Dear Moe,

      We muslims practiced capitalism, free markets and free trade when America was still a wilderness. We love Capitalism and it certainly isn't being imposed on us,

      You are, however, correct that the US presence military presence in the middle east is antagonistic to many muslims.

      December 12, 2010 at 2:50 pm |
    • Kolby Gwingoir

      Worried: By "I still do believe there are a lot of Muslims in USA that hate Americans and act very dangerously. " You mean a total of.. I dunno... 5 people. Am I right?

      The USA tends to get Muslims who assimilate well and are patriotic to this country.

      December 12, 2010 at 2:59 pm |
    • adrifter

      People opposed to Islam need not burn the Qu'ran. I would suggest they make sure everyone in the USA get a copy and read it. I (an infidel) have started to read it. I'm about 60 pages in. It's In English translation, so maybe I'm missing the original intent of the book. But my impressions so far... it"s awfully anti-Semetic and anti-Christian despite the occasional sentence about the special place for the "People of the Book", it's anti-woman (for example, a man can beat his wife "lightly", a woman gets less in inheritance than a man and a man can have four wives), it's violent (fighters for Allah will be rewarded in the next life and some criminals should have hands cut off), and it's CONSTANTLY warning that people like me will burn in hell fire. If there is anyone who wants to contradict my impressions of the book, I'd love to hear your opinions. To be fair, the Bible is also full of nonsense, but the Qu'ran seems like a more unified and concentrated 'how-to' book on life from over a thousand years ago. At times it reads like a financial guide. I can't see how it would ever influence a modern human, but I know it does. That's the amazing part.

      December 12, 2010 at 3:18 pm |
    • iLuv8T

      June
      Now you cam burn it in an app from iTunes. It's called Burn-A-Book.

      my reply
      good joke
      best one so far

      December 12, 2010 at 3:27 pm |
    • iLuv8T

      True fact
      most Muslims, not Arabs in general
      most Africans, not Blacks in general
      but all Hindus and Chinese smell bad

      December 12, 2010 at 3:34 pm |
    • bailoutsos

      UK, when he arrives send Rev. Terry to Sweden and tell them he is Julian. They are not to bright.

      December 12, 2010 at 4:11 pm |
    • johan

      if Miss May ban's the pastor she will get accused of stopping freedom of speech, if she lets him in and some thing happens to him or he does something that gets him arrested she will be accused of backing down to the human rights people.

      December 12, 2010 at 4:19 pm |
    • brian

      "Man is a Religious Animal. Man is the only Religious Animal. He is the only animal that has the True Religion - several of them. He is the only animal that loves his neighbor as himself and cuts his throat if his theology isn't straight. He has made a graveyard of the globe in trying his honest best to smooth his brother's path to happiness and heaven.... The higher animals have no religion. And we are told that they are going to be left out in the Hereafter. I wonder why? It seems questionable taste." ~Mark Twain

      December 12, 2010 at 4:33 pm |
    • jonathan

      I hope you're not from the US spouting off such tripe..

      December 12, 2010 at 4:55 pm |
    • Mike d

      @P'Cola are you serious..Watch TV for 10 minutes and youll see a Muslim doing something to disrespect another religion

      December 12, 2010 at 5:14 pm |
    • aliel28

      Hi Adrifter: This must be an awful translation you are reading. Please buy something more recent that will answer you questions regarding, christians, jews, women and minority rights according to the Quran. A good place to start is to buy the reformist translation which you can easily find. It is to my knowledge the most recent. You can also download for free.

      December 12, 2010 at 5:42 pm |
    • Peace2All

      @adrifter

      Hi -adrifter...!

      You Said: "People opposed to Islam need not burn the Qu'ran. I would suggest they make sure everyone in the USA get a copy and read it. I (an infidel) have started to read it."

      Very similar to the Bible, in that those who 'don't believe' in Jesus as their lord and and savior, are considered 'non-believers' as opposed to (infidels), are allegedly, according to the bible, going to suffer the worst thing imaginable..."burning in hell forever" as 'non-believers' apparently are not worthy. Seems the Christian God, is quite the punisher. Which begs the question anyway, why would God set it up where people that just happen to not 'believe' have to burn in hell for eternity...? Yes, I have heard the free-will arguments..(God's not doing it, by our free-will, we are sending ourselves to eternal torment). My question is ... why would any sound individual think that just 'believing' gets you into heaven, no matter what your deads, but if you don't believe, God and 'warrior Jesus' is going to come back on lightening bolts and kill all of the non-believers. Doesn't sound to me like the peace and loving jesus we read about in the bible. Sounds like a screwed up system from a God, to say the least if you ask me.

      You Said: "I'm about 60 pages in. It's In English translation, so maybe I'm missing the original intent of the book. But my impressions so far... it"s awfully anti-Semetic and anti-Christian despite the occasional sentence about the special place for the "People of the Book"

      Actually, you will get a very similar take in the Bible...yes...? The bible clearly states that 'anyone' that is not a 'believer' is going to hell.

      At least, in the Qur'an, I believe that they do give some respect to 'People of the Book." As the 3 top monotheistic religions, all have their genesis back to the OT. The Jews–from Abraham, and the Muslim's from Abraham. The Qur'an does recognize Jesus-as a highly regarded prophet(but don't consider him the son of god), and they also, recognize Noah, Moses, etc...

      I don't think our bible recognizes 'any' other religion as having some validity. You are either a believer or your not-If not... you are going to burn in hell forever. So, to me... something is wrong in this whole deal.
      ds
      You Said: " it's anti-woman (for example, a man can beat his wife "lightly", a woman gets less in inheritance than a man and a man can have four wives),"

      There are many references in the Bible to very same mysoginistic, polygamous, kinds of thinking and assertions... from God, no less.

      You Said: "it's violent (fighters for Allah will be rewarded in the next life and some criminals should have hands cut off), and it's CONSTANTLY warning that people like me will burn in hell fire."

      And the Bible isn't just chocked full of tremendous violence...?

      Also, your comment about --'fighters' for Allah will be rewarded in the next life-and it's CONSTANTLY warning that people like me will burn in hell fire."

      All you have to do today, is look and research, and you will find that there are 'soldiers for Jesus or Christ' that feel that it is their duty to convert non-believers, so as to save people's souls, as believers, as they 'soldiers for christ' will be rewarded like all 'believers' for doing God's work, therefore–rewarded by going to 'heaven.'

      And as for the comment of burning in 'HELL.' Both books talk about it. The Bible especially. The bottom-line is whether you are a Muslim fanatic, or Christian fanatic, if you don't 'convert' and either accept Jesus as your savior, or if Muslim, you don't accept that Allah is the one true God, and Muhammed is his prophet, and believe in and practice the 5 pillars of Islam, yep... you guessed it... you will burn in hell too.

      So, both the Bible and Qur'an come from a similar source or history, and they 'both' claim-rules, that if you don't follow you will 'burn in hell.'

      You Said: "If there is anyone who wants to contradict my impressions of the book, I'd love to hear your opinions. To be fair, the Bible is also full of nonsense,"

      Well, I gave it a go, as far as making similar comparisons between the Bible and Qur'an. And, the reason I felt that I could comment with you, as you do seem to be sincerely seeking and being fair ("the Bible is also full of nonsense.")

      You Said: " but the Qu'ran seems like a more unified and concentrated 'how-to' book on life from over a thousand years ago."

      You know, in my *opinion* or my approach to so-called divinely inspired holy books, is to take the att-itude that you just stated. I think that they all have some good guides to how to live ones life better. From some of Jesus' quotes, to Muhammed's, to Lao-Tsu (Taoism), The Buddha, etc... Even today, the Dalai Lama, Tich Nat Hahn, Eckart Tolle, etc... We can learn from everyone. Doesnt' mean that .. a God.. is responsible for everyones writings. That is what a lot of the 'wars' are about.... The Christian God Vs. the Muslim God... and who's comments are the 'real' comments. Even though in actuallity, they were born from the same God... (Or so, the Bible says.)

      It's all about taking things that are said in these books, that good rules to live by for happiness, and discard the rest. You have to remember these books were written and re-written a long, long time ago, in a different culture with different values and beliefs.

      You Said: " I can't see how it would ever influence a modern human, but I know it does. That's the amazing part."

      And some people on this Earth are in desperate need to believe in something. In my opinion, I don't understand how anyone can truly take all the Bible seriously- and that goes for anyone truly taking all of the Qur'an seriously.

      I think that the bottom-line is: People will 'read' into said religious books with their own 'interpretations' and act from them. Just look around. Everyone is reading the Bible or the Qur'an, and they all have different 'interpretations' on their books. From the radical/fundamentalists to the progressives, to the ones, that look at these books for tid-bits or nuggets to live their lives by.

      Anyways, sorry for the long post -adrifter. I was and am sincerely interested in your posting, as why I took the time to post back to you. Obviously, I had a lot to say in response to your thought-provoking post.

      I, like you, am generally seeking to live a better, more peaceful, more loving life.... Glad to connect with you, I hope that you will get a chance to reply, as I have enjoyed your post and making me think... I like to learn and grow. Hope that you do too...?

      Sincerely...

      Peace...

      December 13, 2010 at 12:24 am |
    • Truth

      Muslims Burn Bibles Routinely and Often

      2005: Saudi Arabia Desecrates Hundreds of Bibles Annually 1

      2006: Muslim Students Urinate, Spit On Then Burn Bible 2

      2007: Christians in Gaza Fear for Their Lives as Muslims Burn Bibles and Destroy Crosses 3

      2008: Muslims burn Bible in Pakistan 4
      The truth is, it happens every day somewhere in the world. Do you know why we don't hear of it here? Two reasons:

      The Liberal Media does not like reporting anything critical of Islam (recall the cowardice of our newspapers in not publishing the Danish Cartoons)

      If our newspapers had to print barbaric acts committed by Muslims on a daily basis there would be no room to print the local news.
      For centuries the US has been nicey-nice to these vicious animals. When is the Golden Rule going to kick in? When are we going to get treated as we have treated them?

      Muslims don't burn Bibles? That's funny. That's just another Muslim myth.

      By the way, there is a variation of the Golden Rule in Islam: Mohammad in his Farewell Sermon said, "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you." Real original thinker, that guy.

      http://plancksconstant.org/blog1/2010/09/muslims_burn_bibles_routinely_and_often.html

      December 13, 2010 at 5:07 am |
    • ICEMAN

      @iLuv8T you left out white people for what reason? if you going to put something like that on here then don't hold back when it comes to them who smells better wet TRUE FACT!!!!

      December 13, 2010 at 6:03 am |
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