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Lt. John Corbin fights his way through Armegedon Now: World War 3 a Christian comic about the end of days.
January 24th, 2011
06:00 AM ET

Armageddon illustrated

By Gabe LaMonica, CNN

It’s the end of the world: Terrorists release deadly gas in New York City, then set off a nuclear bomb in Los Angeles, while an earthquake in the city of Jerusalem collapses the Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount. Then a million soldiers are killed in “the greatest single battle in the history of the world.”

At least that's how it's envisioned in a new graphic novel, "Armageddon Now: World War 3," the collaborative brainchild of Phil Hotsenpiller, a pastor who specializes in prophecy, and Rob Liefeld, one of the most polarizing artists in the comic book industry.

“Ezekiel actually talks about what happens prior to the battle of Armageddon,” said Hotsenpiller, explaining his use of Old Testament passages in bringing scripture to life in comic book form.

The Book of Ezekiel is "really a summary of a war that happens in the Middle East before Armageddon, where you have this coalition of nations that come together to try to destroy Israel, and Israel prevails in that situation," Hotsenpiller said.

"What we find is a coalition of a lot of armies that make life very difficult, but there’s a miracle that’s won there, and that’s before the entrance of what the Bible refers to as the anti-Christ,” Hotsenpiller said.

On September 11, 2001, as people ran from the billowing white clouds and acrid dust chasing them down streets and alleyways, Hotsenpiller watched from the air. He and his wife were flying past the World Trade Center on their way out of LaGuardia. Before the towers collapsed, they saw the thick line of black pitch piping from one of the twin towers. He, like many others, didn’t know what was happening.

Essentially it is here that Liefeld and Hotsenpiller begin their graphic novel, which sells for $24.99 from Image Comics and is available on the iPad. A sunny and normal morning in New York City turns devastating when a deadly gas that “no one could outrun” is released into the air.

As if the visuals weren’t enough, a narrative box - there’s virtually no dialogue - states that scenes in which mobs of New Yorkers run for their lives with clouds of dust and smoke overhead are “reminiscent of a scene from 9/11.”

In "Armageddon Now," the gas is called M-4211. I asked Hotsenpiller about its significance.

“You’ve got some element of truth, some element of fiction, so we just made the place where they would discover this mystery ... Grand Central Terminal," he said. "Grand Central [is] on 42nd [Street] ... and we tied it back to ... Orion."

The Orion Nebula, also known to astronomers as M42, contains the star Betelgeuse, a red giant several hundred light years away. Some scientists believe it will go supernova in our lifetimes - or maybe in a million years. When it does, it will set the Earth’s night sky ablaze in a light more than equivalent to the full moon.

“In our story, we use it more as a marker," Liefeld said. "Perhaps the birth of Christ, maybe that was a constellation that was lighting up that was guiding people, so that when it is utilized again, it’s more of a signal. So that’s where Orion, without giving away too much, is more or less utilized throughout our story."

Liefeld is an illustrator who has sold 60 million comics for Marvel and Image. He compares himself to Lebron James, “how he transitioned eight years into his career from a hero to a villain and … how LeBron is handling that," he said. "I’m telling you … if it was comic books, you could put my name in there."

People either love Liefeld or love to hate him. In describing his ascension, he quotes from the movie "Blade Runner": “When the scientist tells Rutger Hauer, playing Roy Batty, [he's] gonna die soon, he says, 'The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long, and you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy,'" Liefeld said.

"You’re burning so bright, you’re causing all this attention, but it burns out. I have enjoyed a fantastic 25-year career,” Liefeld said.

"Armageddon Now" is a seminal book in Liefeld’s body of work. Committing himself to vivid landscapes dripping with color, he still can’t seem to pull completely away from the overwrought muscles and too many pockets and ammo magazines that blow his characters out of proportion - and that his critics have loved to ding him for since his meteoric rise in the 1990s.

Hotsenpiller is known for his sermons on prophecy at Yorba Linda Friends, a Christian megachurch in Southern California. He marshals groups of nearly 10,000 people to three-day-long prophecy conferences - one of which Liefeld attended.

“Really the Armageddon book is not designed to be this Biblical commentary text on Ezekiel," Hotsenpiller said. "It’s really meant to be entertainment and fun, and it adds an element of biblical truth in it.”

- CNN Belief Blog

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soundoff (235 Responses)
  1. claybigsby

    "which sells for $24.99 from Image Comics and is available on the iPad"

    Need we say more?

    January 24, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      Don't need to say more! yet I will! This is probably cheaper than your Harry Potter collection!

      January 24, 2011 at 2:13 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      At least Harry Potter has a positive message and has a stronger base in reality.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      MarkinFL
      At least Harry Potter has a positive message and has a stronger base in reality.
      ----------–
      I can't argue with that as longs as it applies to YOU! Does not, will not, cannot apply to me!

      January 24, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
    • claybigsby

      lol steve....you know everything dont you? man you are so smart, i wish i was you.

      January 24, 2011 at 5:08 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      Clay,

      I know little about little! Don't be me, be the best you! Do you say that because of my replies? Honestly your words and the words of others spur my replies. I would tell you that I believe God provides my replies but you would not believe it! Oops! I just did! In seriousness, some replies are fun and some are serious! Then their are some like I just gave to you, a mixture! Please do not think I know it all, I don't, just like NO one on these blogs knows it all! But we can learn from each other! No one says we have to agree, I don't but I can get a better feel of where you are coming from! That's all, do not offended! Like I said before religion and politics are the topics that brings out passion and at time to the extreme! BTW IF you were me, you would HAVE to be a Christian, you cool with that? I am !

      January 24, 2011 at 8:16 pm |
  2. HotAirAce

    I assume the audience for this comic is those who believe in the bible, especially the old testament. My question is, is this the sort of thing believers would expect and support thier local churches/sunday schools to use? In other words, is such a publication a good thing (assists in spreading the word and understanding of your beliefs) or a bad thing (distorts, confuses, makes a mockery, etc. of your beliefs)?

    January 24, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
    • Jason

      Good question. As a Christian and an ordained minister, I consider this publication unhelpful for better understanding of Scripture for those within and outside the Church. The basic presuppositions of the above authors about the Old Testament are wrong. Their theology is Dispensational (i.e. "Left Behind"). They employ a literalistic hermeneutic to apocalyptic literature that should be understood figuratively. They don't understand how the OT and NT inform each other (ex. Revelation is a "picture book" using OT imagery), and they fail to understand the way Scripture uses symbolic language and imagery to communicate the person and work of Jesus Christ.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
    • Anna

      In my opinion it was not created solely for the Christian audience. Gun blazing and the end of the world stuff is interesting to a whole host of people, thus all the movies about it. People create whole fictional stories off of a single thread of nonfictional historical information. That does not mean that book or movie was created for historical purposes but rather entertainment. As I would say, is this comic book.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
  3. CRACK

    From a Christ-follower, this looks absolutely ridiculous.

    January 24, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
  4. gearsofwar

    Looks like Gears of War. Similar plotline: an enemy from below decimates the surface-dwellers who've strayed from the path of God (also see Allah/Buddha/Flying Spaghetti Monster). Only a fearless group of supertough warriors, lead by a charismatic, self-sacrificing leader – Jesus (also see Marcus Fenix, Doom Guy, Duke Nukem) can defeat the hordes of hellmonsters and lead mankind's leftovers (the End of Times massacre being more of a buffet) to salvation.

    January 24, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
  5. Muneef

    Even if you claim this issue being false and would never happen but some has interests from such things to happen would be taking every opportunity to make things happen as stated in the Holy Books even if it is before the real stipulated time...they will make you live it as in reality when it would be just made like a science fiction Holly Wood movie, now that they have the science of satellites shooting images to earth in sort of make believe as was earlier intended by the star war project where was to shoot images to earth of troops and war equipment's to make believe people that they are surrounded with endless troops or be unable to tell the true images of troops from the false images of troops.

    January 24, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
  6. Rebecca

    CNN you liberal media, I have just as much right to speak of my faith in God, then all these non believers and mockers. The persecution of Christians is a sign of the times. My heart truly aches for all of you

    January 24, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • Luke

      HAHA

      LOL, what?

      January 24, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
    • Bob

      What she means is that reality is proving her bible wrong and therefore she's being persecuted.

      Like how Dendrochronology has shown the earth is older then 20,000 years old, thereby negating the timeline in the bible.

      January 24, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • Luke

      Oh, and you mean that the sciences of biology and the human genome project clearly displayed how all life is connected and did not come from one man and his rib? That's interesting, Bob. She's being persecuted by data. It's amusing to see them squirm.

      January 24, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
    • Bob

      Yes, clearly we need to stop researching any scientific pursuits that may have facts that contradict the bible. We've made many basic mistakes, like figuring out the rate at which chaulk builds up naturally. I mean, that's been brutal to the bible. It shows that we've been here much longer then what it says. What a disaster.

      We've also found out that bats aren't birds. I mean, we should have seen that coming and prevented that information from being discovered. And what about cell theory. Like, come on. It's obvious that was going to show that sickness is caused by bacteria and not curses.

      January 24, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
    • Bob

      Rebecca, they also have a horrible world filter. For example, you can't say "Consti-tution" because it contains t-it.

      Docu-ment is another one. You can figure that one out.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:15 pm |
    • Luke

      oh bob – maybe we should just forget about germ theory too? It's only the single most important medical advance in human history.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
  7. Rusty Freedom

    WOW – That picture of Jesus firing that super-weapon with his face twisted in rage is GREAT!!! Those non-believer's are really gonna get their butt kicked by the prince of peace.

    January 24, 2011 at 12:13 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      Nice try Rusty but His (JESUS) weapon is not a super gun but a sword!

      January 24, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Maybe he can modernize and use a light saber! That would be cool.

      January 24, 2011 at 12:18 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      The sword is His word! Not a physical weapon, but a supernatural one!

      January 24, 2011 at 12:28 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Like the Force?

      January 24, 2011 at 12:39 pm |
    • Normon

      So that would be an invisible Omnipotent Omnipresent light saber then?

      January 24, 2011 at 12:39 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      Normon,

      Only if yiou insist and only in your world!

      January 24, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • GodTookNOPart

      You are all a bunch of whack-jobs.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
  8. James

    A comic book based on part of bible, no big deal really. Read it for fun or don't read it, it has as much right to exists as any other comic book/graphic novel or any story really

    January 24, 2011 at 11:52 am |
    • MarkinFL

      I didn't think there was any argument about the right to publish it? Did I miss something?

      January 24, 2011 at 11:55 am |
  9. MarkinFL

    "It’s really meant to be entertainment and fun, and it adds an element of biblical truth in it.”

    Can't wait for the Broadway production...
    Wow, what a sicko!

    Makes The Inquisition look like a picnic in the park.

    January 24, 2011 at 11:34 am |
  10. Rebecca

    UncleM, the Bible is certainly the true book of God. All you who do not believe in him and the Lord Jesus who came to this earth and was nailed to a cross, shed his blood, died and rose again...the Bible says that every eye shall see, every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord. Jesus shed his blood for ALL of us so that we wouldn't have to spend eternity separated from him. Jesus has proved to me over and over that he is real.... As you are unbelievers, you wouldn't understand the things that God does for his people. Jesus IS LORD

    January 24, 2011 at 10:49 am |
    • Luke

      The bible also says to beat the crap out of your kids, enslave other races of humans not eat lobsters. How do you feel about those things? Could you explain to me why you do or don't follow those rules? I'd love to hear your fantasy played out in words.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:00 am |
    • Anglican

      Luke. Read the New Testament with an open heart. Your answer is there. I know what you will blog back. Read it anyway.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • Reality

      Rebecca,

      Saving Christians like yourself from the Resurrection Con:

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

      To wit;

      From a major Catholic university's theology grad school white-board notes:

      "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
      Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

      Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

      Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

      The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

      Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

      "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
      http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

      The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.

      Of course, we all know that angels are really mythical "pretty, wingie, talking thingies".

      With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

      An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue, ( Professors Crossan and Wright are On Faith panelists).
      p.4
      "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."

      o p.168. by Ted Peters:
      "Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

      So where are the bones? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:16 am |
    • BB

      Luke, I am your father....

      January 24, 2011 at 11:33 am |
    • Luke

      Anglican

      First of all, I've read many versions of the bible from start to finish and the Koran. It was a fun summer. I question whether you have. Secondly, you do not get to disregard an entire section of your bible because you don't like it. You get the whole thing, or none of it. No cherry picking kids. Now – tell me how you feel about your god ordering the deaths of millions, enslaving many millions and instructing you to kill your kids. Go ahead...there's plenty of room here.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:33 am |
    • Luke

      BB

      My father is dead, Killed when I was 15. Thanks for the reminder. And your joke is soooooooooooo original.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:34 am |
    • Steve the real one

      Luke,

      So sorry to hear that, man!

      January 24, 2011 at 11:44 am |
    • Bob

      > the Bible says that every eye shall see, every knee shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord.

      And ShamWow claims it's the best cloth for picking up spills. What's your point.

      Me: "How do you know that relvelation is going to come true?"
      You: "The bible is true because it's the word of God."
      Me: "How do yo know it's the word of God?"
      You: "The bible is the word of God because it says it is."

      And we loop forever.

      January 24, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • Luke

      Anglican – I see that you have no answer. Thanks for confirming. You're just another cherry picking with nothing original to say.

      January 24, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
    • TheRationale

      The New Testament is infinitely worse than the Old one! What a classic mistake.

      Yes, the only way to heaven is to believe. That is perhaps the absolute worst morality I could possibly think of.

      The mere fact that you have to defend your Bible is proof that you don't get your morality from that book but that you get it by being a human in the first place, and you hold up the good parts and hope nobody will keep their finger on the pulse for the rest of the book. Sorry, but no matter which way you read your Bible, your God is simply awful.

      January 24, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
    • Anglican

      Luke. Sorry, I have a real job. Much of the Bible includes apocalyptic imagery. In Isaiah, the imagery of the sky falling and all was in reference to the fall of Babylon. This is the way people related "earth shattering" events . Same with Jesus as above. I am not a cherry picker. This is one of my jobs. Just what do you believe. I am sad for you.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:18 pm |
    • Anglican

      The Rationale. My God made and sustains you. Do you see your existence in this universe as simply a random happening? Is your love for your family simply a random, evolutionary twist? Open your mind, but also your heart. You probably will not. I wish you would.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • Bob

      > The Rationale. My God made and sustains you.

      My rationale. I am open to any concept that comes across my plate. I'd be fine with God existing or not existing. As such, I look at evidence rationally and without bias for the most part.

      However, believers have already decided on the result. There is a God. So your mind is closed by default to anything that might show that the representation of your God is wrong.

      I'm shown proof that the bible is accurate and miracles occur, I become a Christian full on. You're shown proof that the bible is inaccurate, you don't abandon your faith.

      Who's close minded?

      January 24, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
    • Luke

      o Anglican – I have a real job too. Are you trying to insinuate something here? I happen to be an economist with a major insti-tution. You wouldn't happen to be guilty of trying to as-sociate me with undereducated people or the unemployed that have too much time on their hands? I think you were. Sad. In any event, it is childish at best to call the Old Testament imagery (metaphor) while taking the the New Testament as truth. I find the New Testament infinitely worse in some aspects as well. The general thesis of the New Testament is blind faith. What a horrible life lesson. You would never teach your children to trust without question. Awful idea and terribly out of date, suitable only bronze age humans. You have no leg to stand on here. You are, indeed, a cherry picker. The bible is accepted as the word of god or inspired word of god. This god condones slavery and is behind the direct death of countless millions. And you write it off as metaphor. HA! Shame on you.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
    • Anglican

      Luke. No, I did not include you in an uneducated lot, though you accuse my untimely response as not having anything to say. Go forward in your cold life. The Bible can only be understood by those with an open heart, those who might wonder. I am sad for you. I will pray for you. May God bless you and your family. Peace.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
    • Luke

      o I'll answer one of your questions too:
      Love is part of evolution. We have proven so. We see love and affection in the animal kingdom within species and across species. Sometimes, we see strangely interesting love and morality when a lion cub that has been abandoned by its mother is taken in by a tiger parent or when a gorilla cares for chimp. Sometimes we all get a laugh when the local news shows that story of a kitten caring for a duckling, don’t we? Signs of love and morality are all over the animal kingdom, furthermore, I find it selfish that you think your God has a patent on love. You are insinuating that non Christians cannot love. I find that insulting. So does my wife.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
    • Maybe

      Anglican,

      "The Bible can only be understood by those with an open heart,..."

      A truly open 'heart' would be open to the Quran and the Book of Mormon, and scriptures from every religion, from Hinduism to Scientology. Your 'heart' is closed to them, yet they all say that they are the truth, just like the Bible does.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
    • Luke

      Maybe

      yes, we all know this and I agree. It is ironic, I think, that those that reject religion have the most open minds to world religions.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:05 pm |
    • Luke

      o Anglican
      My cold life? What makes you think that oh pious one? I am happily married (to a recovering Catholic) and plan on having a lovely child or two in a few years. I am surrounded by lovely friedns in multiple countries. You seem to draw conclusions from my lack of faith in your god. Wrong conclusions. Ones that accuse me of no love and coldness when anything could be further from the truth. And you a-ssume that one can only be full of love and moral with your god, like you have a patent on it. What a closed minded terrible att-itude you have.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:32 pm |
    • Anglican

      Luke. Say what you will, but your the one hanging out on a belief blog belittling those who believe. Such a negative activity for one so happy. If you are so happy in your condition, why ridicule the faithful? Why does faith matter to you when you could be on a economics blog ripping someone research to bits?

      January 24, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
    • Anglican

      Maybe. I actively participate in interfaith activities. It is very important to respect and love all. You have never seen a post from me having any negative comments regarding other religions. So quick to be negative are you.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
    • Luke

      Anglican – Sure you have. You insulted me directly and also repeatedly said those that do not have Jesus are loveless. You just insulted most of the Asian sub continent along with 15% of America and most of Europe. Care to reposition yourself?

      January 24, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
    • Luke

      Anglican

      sorry, missed a question.

      Because religion and religious debates interest me. I also study science in my spare time and regularly debate topics in my spare time. I often debate economists as well. I'm not one dimensional. Am I not allowed to read religious articles and point out there misguidings with people that are like minded or have contrary opinions? How about a nice discussion on evolutionary biology? Any thoughts?

      January 24, 2011 at 4:16 pm |
    • Anglican

      Luke. I have said no such thing. Again, you are the one spewing negativity, belittling those of faith. I respect your position, though I wish you would reconsider. I am not waiting for one of faith to blog, then cut him or her to pieces as you do. Your negative post against believers on a faith blog only confirms your lack of respect and, yes lack of love for those who may be Christian, Jew, Hindu.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:21 pm |
    • Luke

      You most certainly did. You have repeatedly said you feel sorry for me too. How pious of you. Do you think I am need of your aid? Again – you insinuate that I need love from you or love from your god to be happy? Untrue. You very specifically above said love cannot be an evolutionary event, when I proved it was. You ignored that comment. You also told us that love is the result of your lord, claiming a patent on love. I disproved that claim. That is insulting to everyone that has loved. You don't to claim love as yours and yours only. You also failed to answer my original questions to you, disregarding the filthy parts of the bible as "just metaphor." Fact is your god, Yahweh, called for slavery and death alongside claims of obedient love. You are very much a cherry picker. I do feel sorry for you as well.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:30 pm |
    • Bob

      > How about a nice discussion on evolutionary biology?

      Yeah, it'd be cool to have a listing of all the evolutionary biology laws. I can see the Christians now...

      "Wait, there's laws of evolution! I thought it was just a theory!"

      January 24, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
    • Anglican

      Luke. Sure. My world is Emergency and Trauma Med. Took graduate evolutionary anatomy at MSU in 1980. Enjoyed comparing bird wings to human hands. Do not know a thing about econ except what Fr Guido Sardochy ( sp?) taught on Saturday Night Live in late 70's. Supply and demands all I know. Peace.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:34 pm |
    • Luke

      Anglican – Oh, I see that you studying some biology in your days. Great. So you see that evolution disproves the creationism story, right? And how the human genome project shows that all life is interconnected and that all life forms were not created as they presently look? These ideas contradtict the ideas of the bible and disprove the teachings of your lord. You are a cherry picker.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:41 pm |
    • Luke

      Anglican

      ...and still no answers explaining the terrible parts of the bible and no explaination of evils in this world if a loving god is watching.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
    • Anglican

      Luke. I do not know. It is hard for me to understand the God interpreted in Hebrew scriptures, with the God revealed in Jesus. I do not see the Bible as a history book authored by historians. Much oral tradition over thousands of years is the Hebrew Bible's most treasured source. I, in all humility, do not know. That being said, I am ok with not having all the answers to my world.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:49 pm |
    • Maybe

      Anglican,

      "I actively participate in interfaith activities. It is very important to respect and love all. You have never seen a post from me having any negative comments regarding other religions."

      Good that you participate in interfaith activities - it is crucial that we learn to get along.

      The fact that you claim to be a Christian in itself negates your open-heartedness to believing other scenarios about the universe. You don't have to blatantly slam them to show this. Your heart is closed to accepting Mohammad as your Prophet, or Xenu and his Thetans as your origins, or the idea or reincarnating as a frog.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:50 pm |
    • Luke

      Anglican

      Typical. You were so sure of yourself but I challenged you. You said you were sorry for me for not having love, insinuating that love is only through your god. I keep challenging. I prove you incorrect about love not being evolutionary. I ask more questions. And now you don't know. And with all of this uncertainty, you inject the entire Christian doctrine into your gaps of knowledge rather than investigating them properly (I want you to allow that to sink in real deep – you inject the bronze age teachings of uneducated people that thought the earth was the center of the universe into your gaps of knowlege). And you work with people as part of your living? I sincerely hope you don't give them the advice you have given me. That would be a tragedy.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:54 pm |
    • Anglican

      Maybe. See Maybe, thats the problem we all have. That is the reason for all those killed in the name of a god. My God is revealed in the face of Jesus Christ. He is my creator and sustainer. That being said, I have the upmost respect for people of all faiths. I do not have to convert,harm, or war against someone of another faith. I do not have to "win" anything. We are to love one another regardless of color or creed. I believe in "to each his own" with great respect.

      January 24, 2011 at 5:00 pm |
    • Luke

      Anglican – Well, we have no evidence that there ever was a Jesus. so your god is revealed in the face of a mythical Jewish Zombie. You beleive in virgin birth? I thought you said the old testiment was metaphor? There you go cherry picking again.

      January 24, 2011 at 5:07 pm |
    • Anglican

      Luke. We are carbon units formed with less than sixty cents worth of carbon, nitrogen and oxygen. Our brain is a solid mass of neurons with their axons and dendrites with memory, abstract thought, and emotion controlled by electricity and neurohormones. That is our physical reality. I believe whole-heartedly that their is more to and in this life. Sounds simple and stupid to you. I respect you, you respect me. Peace.

      January 24, 2011 at 5:09 pm |
    • Luke

      Anglican

      So it is your non evidence based belief that there is more, when in reality, it is very possible there isn't. Sounds like you are just going the imaginary friend route to feel better about insecurities regarding the unknowable. And still – no answers to my question other than "I don't know." And yet you tried to tell me I am lost without Jesus? Very weak argument, lady. I won't stop...I will never stop. I want answers from you. Why did you jump down my throat about being non religious? Why am I lost and lovelless and cold? Come on, fork it over.

      January 24, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
    • Anglican

      Luke. If I had all the answers, then God would not be God. You sure have gotten angry. Where is your peace? Pick on me all you want. I may have met or blogged with the first man who has all the answers to the universe. Sorry, I don't.

      January 24, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
    • Bob

      > Luke. If I had all the answers, then God would not be God. You sure have gotten angry.

      That's what we call transferrence. You equate negativity against your religion as someone being angry. It's not the case. He's simply pointing out how asinine it is to believe that a God who knows all and is all powerful somehow has to create a son and sacrifice that being to himself to pay for sins that he created us to do.

      I mean, if God knew the future and created us, isn't he responsible for sin? The same way I'm responsible for building a shoddy chair?

      January 24, 2011 at 5:29 pm |
    • Luke

      Anglican

      I'm not angry, lady. I am pointing out your misguidings and you take them as religious persecution. And for the record, you were the pious one off the start by condeming me cold and loveless simply due to my non religious stance on life. Once you did that, that's when I started hammering your ever word. And I find it hilarious that suddently you have no answers. You had them all a few hours ago, so much so that you wanted me to join your forces and thought less of me for not being on your side.

      January 24, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
  11. Robin

    Why would they consider the deaths of millions of people "entertainment and fun"? These people have several screws loose. Just look at the soldier. He has a huge, muscular body and a tiny little pin head.

    January 24, 2011 at 10:40 am |
    • MarkinFL

      All the better to believe the BS he's been fed.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    • NL

      You also have to ask yourself how much of this is the just a fantasy of a continued American domination over the world in an age where we see the Chinese and others rising up to challenge us? The heros in the Revelation myth, the 'real' Christians, are always overwhelmingly Americans, it seems, and the graphics in the article seem to confirm that this comic is following suit. Flag and football player.

      I can't help but feel that a lot of this is an expression of the hope that the world ends before the USA ever has to see itself slip from being number one. That Christ will return in time to save us from this humiliation.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:45 am |
    • MarkinFL

      NL,
      That is probably some of the motivation to this whole looking forward to JC returning thing. Personally, I couldn't imagine hoping its all over without my kids and their kids etc. having a go at making this a great world to live in. So far I've had a pretty good time and I could never selfishly hope I was in one of the final generations. Seems so completely self centered.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:50 am |
    • Steve the real one

      NL,

      How many Chinese wriiten comics have Americans as heros? I will assume none! This is written to an american audience. That your complaint?

      January 24, 2011 at 11:51 am |
    • NL

      MarkinFL-
      "Seems so completely self centered."

      Yeah, actually looking forward to the world ending before your kids get to grow up seems a bit selfish, but I think it's people's pride and not wanting their kids to grow up in an America slipping off it's pedestal that worries them more. Besides, in their fantasy, the kids' lives aren't ending tragically at all, but better than if they actually grew up normally. Remember that they believe that their kids will be amongst those beamed up to heaven, or bravely fighting on God's side.

      Wanting the world to end before China's rising economy surpasses that of the US is like wanting to quit the poker game as soon as it looks like your winning streak is waning, right? Makes us look like poor sports who can't stand the thought of not being the richest family in the neighborhood.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • NL

      Steve the real one-
      No complaint, just an observation.

      Still, it would be interesting to study if the Chinese, or anybody else, dreams of the world ending as much as Americans do? If you think about it, wasn't H.G. Wells' The War of the Worlds published just as the British Empire was past it's apex? Maybe Americans are smelling something similar in the wind now and it's being reflected in all this recent apocalyptic interest?

      January 24, 2011 at 2:33 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      NL,

      Sorry then to have placed words in your mouth. Folk of all walks of life are interested in the future. Some turn to horscopes, some write it all off as just natural occurrances and some like me turn to the Bible. Can you admit there seems to be an uptick in natural disasters lately? Bewteen earthquakes, tidal waves and such! Even in places where they have not occurred in centuries! Anyway, I wil leave you with this. The Bible states this is a world without end. The world will not end!

      January 24, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
    • Anglican

      Luke. Sure. My world is Emergency and Trauma Med. Took graduate evolutionary anatomy at MSU in 1980. Enjoyed comparing bird wings to human hands. Do not know a thing about econ except what Fr Guido Sardochy ( sp?) taught on Saturday Night Live in late 70's. Supply and demands all I know. Peace.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • NL

      Steve the real one-
      No worries.
      Is there an increase in natural disasters? Maybe, but it could just be that natural disaster is what interests us lately and our media knows what sells. The same natural disasters are news stories around the world, but I've watched foreign TV newscasts and they don't seem to want to put you at the edge of your seat as much, know what I mean? CNN, Fox and the others love creating tension, and it'll soon come to the point where they'll have a countdown to when the president flosses his teeth.

      Are there actually more natural disasters now, or is it just the increase in reportage? I honestly haven't made my mind up yet. Too many groups are posting conclusions without facts to support them, and they all seem to have a motive for manipulating the message. The bible may state that this is a world without end, but a realist would have to be at least aware of the many possible ways we could be ended. Playing the odds it may not happen today, this year, or even in a hundred years, but it could happen. We have evidence that nasty things really can just drop out of the blue.

      BTW- What makes you think that the bible is against astrology?

      January 24, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
    • Steve (the real one)

      NL,

      You asked why I believe the Bible is against astrology. Simple, what is the purpose of astrology? Is it to guide peoples lives (that is why folks read their horoscopes before making decisions). Folk are worshipping the creation (the stars) instead of the creator!

      January 24, 2011 at 11:38 pm |
    • NL

      Steve (the real one)-
      Have you ever considered that the ancients may have believed that God communicated to them through astrology? That astrology was what the magi used to find Jesus and that references to 'signs' in the bible are possibly references to astrological clues placed by God?

      Try this link http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen13.html

      January 25, 2011 at 8:08 am |
  12. Joey

    Just what we need – – more fruit cakes!

    January 24, 2011 at 10:21 am |
    • TrueFax

      Don't dis fruitcakes they can be pretty good.

      January 24, 2011 at 12:03 pm |
  13. vel

    yay, it's "fun" to claim that God will kill people for no better reason than disbelieving in him. What a schmuck.

    January 24, 2011 at 9:51 am |
    • Reality

      Well said!!!

      January 24, 2011 at 10:24 am |
    • Obadiah

      Wrong. Once you read the Word, you will see that God will judge people for continuing to sin and not repenting of their sin. We believe in Jesus because He forgives our sins and guides us in our walk in repentance.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
    • Reality

      "We believe in Jesus because He forgives our sins and guides us in our walk in repentance." Hmmm, might want to think about that. While doing so add the following :

      For added thought, here is what Professor JD Crossan has to say about atonement theology: (from his book, "Who is Jesus" co-authored with Richard Watts)

      "Moreover, an atonement theology that says God sacrifices his own son in place of humans who needed to be punished for their sins might make some Christians love Jesus, but it is an obscene picture of God. It is almost heavenly child abuse, and may infect our imagination at more earthly levels as well. I do not want to express my faith through a theology that pictures God demanding blood sacrifices in order to be reconciled to us."

      "Traditionally, Christians have said, 'See how Christ's passion was foretold by the prophets." Actually, it was the other way around. The Hebrew prophets did not predict the events of Jesus' last week; rather, many of those Christian stories were created to fit the ancient prophecies in order to show that Jesus, despite his execution, was still and always held in the hands of God."

      "In terms of divine consistency, I do not think that anyone, anywhere, at any time, including Jesus, brings dead people back to life."

      January 24, 2011 at 3:23 pm |
    • Obadiah

      Reality,
      The Word of God tells us that many will reject the Word and refuse to hear the truth. I would only suggest reading the Word and asking God for understanding of the Word for yourself not based on what Professor Crossan wrote. In the end, I will be judged on my sins, Professor Crossan on his sins you on yours. In addition, King David wrote about the resurrection (Psalms 16:8-10), crucifixion (Psalms 22), betrayal (Psalms 41:9) and the ascension (Psalms 68:18) of Christ. Also, the Word does not say that Jesus was the only one to raise someone from the dead. Both the Old Testament (Elijah and Elisha) and the New Testament (Peter and Paul) had individuals to raise the dead. Don't get so caught up in the physical aspects of being 'raised from the dead'. To be truly resurrected is to be 'born again' into a life where you commit yourself to living a life free of sin. Is this going to be hard, yes. Will we need help, absolutely. That help will come from our belief in the one who was born into sin (the world) but able to overcome it.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
    • Reality

      “I believe the Bible is inspired.” “Why?” “Because it says so.” Would your
      anyone let that logic pass if it came from the followers of any other book
      or person? “I believe x is inspired because x says so.” Fill in the blanks:

      x=Pat Robertson
      x=the ayatolloah Sistani (sp?)
      x=David Koresh
      x=the Koran”
      x=Obadiah

      more “logic”?
      “I believe there is One God Jehovah because He is revealed in the infallible
      Bible. I believe the Bible is infallible because it is the Word of the One God Jehovah.”

      January 24, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
    • Obadiah

      Reality,

      Not long ago, I could pick the Bible apart and find fault with just about every scripture I read. And I was convinced that it was written by man and so it could not be heavenly inspired. I was so good at picking it apart because I was looking for something wrong with it. As I was having my debates about the Bible with an older gentleman, he asked me if I ever tried looking at the Bible for something good. That stuck with me. When I started looking for something good in the Bible, I found Christ. So, I believe the Bible is inspired because Christ speaks to my heart when I read it. The words in it are words of life. Spiritual life. Eternal life. The words help me to try and live my life better. To be a better husband, father and person. To love one another. This is why I believe.

      January 24, 2011 at 7:19 pm |
    • Reality

      Obadiah,

      Reading the US Consti-tution and/or the Declaration of Independence and/or the Magna Carta and/or the Code of Hammurabi and/or the Egyptian Book of the Dead also works. No deities required!!!

      All are on-line!!!

      January 24, 2011 at 11:38 pm |
  14. Apostle Eric vonAnderseck

    “...while an earthquake in the city of Jerusalem collapses the Dome of the Rock on the Temple Mount.”
    Apostle Eric says: interesting pictures, but the battle of Armageddon is at the end of the 7year tribulation. http://apostlestoday.net/

    January 24, 2011 at 9:35 am |
    • Reality

      The Apostles' Creed 2010: (updated based on the studies of historians and theologians during the past 200 years)

      I might believe in a god whose existence cannot be proven
      and said god if he/she/it exists resides in an unproven,
      human-created state of bliss called heaven.

      I believe there was a 1st century CE, Jewish, simple,
      preacher-man who was conceived by a Jewish carpenter
      named Joseph living in Nazareth and born of a young Jewish
      girl named Mary.

      Jesus was summarily crucified for being a temple rabble-rouser by
      the Roman troops in Jerusalem serving under Pontius Pilate,

      He was buried in an unmarked grave and still lies
      a-mouldering in the ground somewhere outside of
      Jerusalem.

      Said Jesus' story was embellished and "mythicized" by
      many semi-fiction writers. A bodily resurrection and
      ascension stories were promulgated to compete with the
      Caesar myths. Said stories were so popular that they
      grew into a religion known today as Catholicism/Christianity
      and featuring dark-age, daily wine to blood and bread to body rituals
      called the eucharistic sacrifice of the non-atoning Jesus.

      Amen

      January 24, 2011 at 10:23 am |
  15. doctore0

    One fine day the bible will be filed under fiction.

    January 24, 2011 at 9:03 am |
    • Chad

      Amen!

      January 24, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • Anglican

      doctor 0.. Oh great wise prophet, when? It was fact the day you were born, and it will be fact the day you die. Peace

      January 24, 2011 at 11:14 am |
    • Steve the real one

      You're probably correct BUT something after the rapture and probably filed by the false prophet or the one known as the anti-christ himself!

      January 24, 2011 at 11:23 am |
    • SHELBY

      Amen to the person who said the bible will one fine day be filed under fiction. I can only agree with that. How could anyone millions of years ago. Before there was paper, languages, ink be able to write all those words from the bible? These testaments are written by people who were not present when god supposedly invented the earth. I mean if God creates everything, how can he create so much bad if he's supposed to be a symbol of love? Something is wrong with that.

      January 24, 2011 at 12:36 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @doctore0

      Actually, the bible is being used to steady a table with an uneven leg in my house.

      Add to the conversation!

      January 24, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
    • David Johnson

      @Steve the real one

      You said: "You're probably correct BUT something after the rapture and probably filed by the false prophet or the one known as the anti-christ himself!"

      The book of Revelation was not meant to be a future (2000+ years) prediction. It was written in a time when the Christians were being heavily persecuted. The 666 is most likely a reference to Nero Caesar.

      Do you really think the stars will fall to earth?
      Revelation 6:13 – And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

      The bronze age people believed the heavenly bodies were about the size as they appear in the sky. The sun and moon about the size of basketballs. The stars, very small. They had no idea, that the stars were actually "suns".

      Good thing I have free glass. Bound to get a few broken windshields when those suns fall out of the sky...

      Believers have no gag muscles. They can swallow anything. LOL

      Cheers!

      January 24, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
    • TheRationale

      Why wouldn't you file it there today?

      January 24, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      Wheneve I go into a book store, and the sales people annoy me by trying to be too helpful, I ask them why religious books aren't located in the fiction section. Never fails to get a confused reaction – and they always go away.

      January 24, 2011 at 1:55 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      David Johnson
      @Steve the real one
      You said: "You're probably correct BUT something after the rapture and probably filed by the false prophet or the one known as the anti-christ himself!" The book of Revelation was not meant to be a future (2000+ years) prediction. It was written in a time when the Christians were being heavily persecuted. The 666 is most likely a reference to Nero Caesar.
      Do you really think the stars will fall to earth? Revelation 6:13 – And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. The bronze age people believed the heavenly bodies were about the size as they appear in the sky. The sun and moon about the size of basketballs. The stars, very small. They had no idea, that the stars were actually "suns". Good thing I have free glass. Bound to get a few broken windshields when those suns fall out of the sky...Believers have no gag muscles. They can swallow anything. LOL
      ---------
      Has satan been cast into the lake of fire? Not yet! It is future events! David, let's cut the the chase you and I will NEVER agree (unless you come to Christ) 'cause I know I will NEVER leave him! I must say you trying to teach me the Bible is akin to me (no medical skills at all) trying to teach a heart surgeon, the art of heart surgery! I am not saying that to be mean BUT you don't even believe it to be the word of God! that is all I am saying! Cheers to you, Sir!

      January 24, 2011 at 1:58 pm |
    • Obadiah

      File it where you like. Do with it as you please. Nothing will stop the God's judgment outlined in the Word for those who continue to live in sin. The Word is a guide to help all of us living in an unrighteous world to try and live in peace with one another. What could be wrong with that? Why is their fault with a desire to do good?

      January 24, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • Maybe

      Obadiah,

      "The Word is a guide to help all of us living in an unrighteous world to try and live in peace with one another."

      Nothing wrong with that part of it really. It is parts with all of the fantasies of the supernatural that is under scrutiny.

      Aesop's Fables portrays some fine examples of righteous behavior too - it is filed under 'fiction' though.

      January 24, 2011 at 3:32 pm |
    • Obadiah

      Maybe,
      Again I say, one may 'file it' where they please. I would suppose that if we look at some of the events occurring today in the world, some would say that they are 'supernatural' as well. If we can believe in Aesop and feel good, why not believe and Jesus and be saved?

      January 24, 2011 at 4:17 pm |
    • Maybe

      Obadiah,

      Why not believe that Superman is coming to pluck you from that collapsing bridge?

      January 24, 2011 at 4:35 pm |
    • Obadiah

      Maybe,
      If my concern was of earthly things and my physical self, then Superman would be an option. But since my concern is on my spiritual soul, I put that completely in the hands of Christ.

      January 24, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      I "file" any religious books I find in a hotel room in the round bin...

      January 24, 2011 at 7:22 pm |
  16. NL

    I like graphic novels, but $25 for a first run is a little steep for my wallet. It's also interesting that in this Christian tale sacred places to both Jews (the Western Wall) and Muslims (the Dome) are destroyed by God, and that Americans play a key role for the side of good, I as.sume, just like in the "Left Behind" series.

    January 24, 2011 at 8:28 am |
  17. allfaith

    Thanks, but no thanks. Hell isn't a place, it's a state of mind. The fact that so many follow this series is a good indicator that many of our citizens feel oppressed and at the mercy of outside forces. The truth is that we've lost the common sense notion that what we need is to stay within ourselves. It does no one any good to fight windmills. Nothing is accomplished through it other than the casting of dark shadows.

    January 24, 2011 at 8:11 am |
  18. Reality

    "Nineteenth-century agnostic Robert G. Ingersoll branded Revelation "the insanest of all books".[30] Thomas Jefferson omitted it along with most of the Biblical canon, from the Jefferson Bible, and wrote that at one time, he "considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams." [31]

    Martin Luther "found it an offensive piece of work" and John Calvin "had grave doubts about its value."[32]

    January 24, 2011 at 7:56 am |
    • NL

      I think it was about the last book to be accepted into the canon. Opposition to it was centered on it's being a primary scripture for Montanism, a heretic sect, and general concerns that it's imagery was too difficult to interpret without abuse. My, those early Church Fathers were actually pretty wise.

      January 24, 2011 at 8:20 am |
    • Apostle Eric vonAnderseck

      Thomas Jefferson was not an apostle of the covenant of Christ nor did he see Jesus on the mount of the Transfiguration which the apostle John both heard and seen. We have evidence of that fact. http://apostlestoday.net/

      January 24, 2011 at 9:39 am |
    • Reality

      ApostleE

      You noted: "Thomas Jefferson was not an apostle of the covenant of Christ nor did he see Jesus on the mount of the Transfiguration which the apostle John both heard and seen. We have evidence of that fact. "

      What evidence?

      January 24, 2011 at 10:21 am |
    • MarkinFL

      You mean besides the fact that Jefferson post-dates JC by more than 1700 years?

      What a pointless point to make.

      On the other hand, I was there.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:38 am |
    • MauiGuy

      Yeah, I too prefer the reality of secularhumanisn. With the likes of Pol Pot, Hitler, Mau, Stalin, Kim, etc. killing over 100,000,000 in a mere 70 years in the name of natural selection, why look to a fictional book to get the job done? Do it NOW in the most efficient way possible.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
  19. UncleM

    There is no such thing as biblical truth since the book is made up.

    January 24, 2011 at 7:49 am |
    • Anglican

      Thank you for such a wise comment. I guess there was no Assyrian invasion of northern Judah in the 700 century BC, no invasion of Jerusalem between 600 and 500 BC by the Babylonians. No Roman occupation of the region during the time of Christ. I guess Jesus of Nazareth never was born. Wow you know secular history so well.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:11 am |
    • MarkinFL

      Merely an early example of historical fiction. Brings in known elements of history and weaves an interesting story into it.

      January 24, 2011 at 11:36 am |
    • Obadiah

      Interestingly enough, for a book that is supposedly 'fiction', in it are described people such as yourself.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
    • Bob

      > Thank you for such a wise comment. I guess there was no Assyrian invasion of northern Judah in the 700 century BC, no invasion of Jerusalem between 600 and 500 BC by the Babylonians. No Roman occupation of the region during the time of Christ. I guess Jesus of Nazareth never was born. Wow you know secular history so well.

      You know, you really shouldn't be so snarky, because someone will come along and show you why you're wrong. Like right now.

      A detective novel can have it's setting in WW2 and be 100% fiction.

      January 24, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
    • Anglican

      Bob. So, the invasions and occupations never happened? What about middle eastern history in non-Biblical test?

      January 24, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
    • Bob

      > Bob. So, the invasions and occupations never happened? What about middle eastern history in non-Biblical test?

      What part of my example didn't you understand?

      January 25, 2011 at 10:09 am |
  20. Byron Pemberton

    Thx for this reminder, it is easy to forget that some people still believe this nonsense. The 'antiChrist' was here approx 2000 yrs ago, and there were many! You should check out 'The Greatest Story Never Told' by Steve Staten
    Rev was written to encourage the disciples to remain faithful to the point of death, in a language they understood but the Romans didn't. He who believes there will be an actual Battle Of Armegeddon are not reading Rev through the eyes of the first century church

    January 24, 2011 at 6:47 am |
    • Joker

      propaganda to feed the mindless and delusional

      January 24, 2011 at 2:04 pm |
    • Mike

      I was wondering about your thoughts on how at both council's of Nicea they VOTED on the divinity of Christ and He only won by a few votes; and the one that really gets to me is that they picked and chose what would go into the bible.
      Because the Jewish people kept such good records, the old testament is pretty much intact, its the new testament that I am interested in your opinion about. Thank you very much for your time and knowledge.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
    • MauiGuy

      Secularhumanisn is way better... With the likes of Pol Pot, Hitler, Mau, Stalin, Kim, etc. killing over 100,000,000 in a mere 70 years in the name of natural selection, why look to a fictional book to get the job done? Do it NOW in the most efficient way possible.

      January 24, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
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