New imam quits embattled Islamic community center
The site of the prosed islamic center near Ground Zero in a file photo.
February 4th, 2011
04:06 PM ET

New imam quits embattled Islamic community center

By Allan Chernoff, CNN

A Park51 imam announced his resignation Friday, just three weeks after being appointed to his post at the embattled Islamic community center in New York, according to a written statement Friday.

"I wish the project leaders well," said Imam Adhami, saying he needed more time to complete a book meant to assist English readers in understanding the Quran.

His resignation comes on the heels of a controversial post on his website, sakeenah.org, in which he claimed that "an enormously overwhelming percentage of people struggle with homosexual feeling because of some form of violent emotional or sexual abuse at some point in their life."

Park51 officials later attempted to distance the community center from Adhami's comments, tweeting that "Adhami's personal statements do not reflect the position of p51."

The community center - located two blocks from the ground zero location in Manhattan - describes itself as an inclusive community center open to anyone, with the goal of integrating Muslim-Americans into U.S. society.

"We have been humbled by Imam Adhami's contributions to this project over the past few months," said Park51 President Sharif El-Gamal. "We look forward to him, God willing, leading prayers informally for Park51 in the near future."

His departure is the latest in a string of setbacks after former Imam, Feisal Abdul Rauf, was given a reduced role in the center.

Rauf remains on the board of the community center.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: 'Ground zero mosque' • Houses of worship • Islam • Mosque • Muslim • New York • United States

soundoff (423 Responses)
  1. Canisminor

    Are we sure this guy's a muslim? He sounds more like an evangelical christian to me.

    February 4, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
    • YBP

      Same thing.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
  2. Mark Yelka

    God is imaginary. Belief in god is delusional. Delusional people frequently do bad things. These bad things slow human progress. We can live better lives without delusion. It all begins by acknowledging that god is imaginary.

    February 4, 2011 at 5:13 pm |
    • YBP


      February 4, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
  3. I H

    Brothers and Sisters in Humanity – Please never forget:


    February 4, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
    • Believer

      Well said

      February 4, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
    • YBP

      People with religious beliefs kill people. If it weren't for those beliefs, they wouldn't dare.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
  4. wyciwyg

    big difference between Christianity and Islam - Christian behavior has evolved from violent past in the name of Christianity (Crusades, inquisitions, etc). while Islam STILL condons and practices 14th century barbaric behavior To THIS DAY: Video'd beheadings (Daniel Pearl and others) and executions, throwing crippled old men overboard a cruise ship, honor killings of wives and daughters. remember headlines just last month: Educated, successful Muslim male beheads wife in NYC (she dared to file for divorce after multiple police reports of physical abuse).

    the NEW Testament teaches forgiveness and mercy and tolerance of differences. Koran writings teach the total subjugation or killing all infidels aka non-Muslims, or even Muslims who dont agree w/extremists' views.

    February 4, 2011 at 5:08 pm |
    • YBP

      The violence hasn't gone away. Now they kill with words instead of swords, axes and fire. How many young people today commit suicide over what they hear from the pulpit? It's a disgrace in this day and age.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
    • Charles Dexter Ward

      In fact, it can be argued that Islam is sliding backwards. No signs of evolution in the Middle East, no sir.

      February 4, 2011 at 8:03 pm |
    • atrain3

      Who cares what the Quran says and does not say? Islam, like most religions, should not be used to justify anything. Islam has yet to undergo a reformation, an enlightenment. In fact, many of their teachings are anti-enlightenment, they do not want to become "defiled and secular" like the West. OMG Muslims shut up and leave me alone

      February 4, 2011 at 10:50 pm |
  5. nobikiniatoll

    So much blood has been shed by the Church because of an omission from the Gospel:
    Ye shall be indifferent as to what your neighbor's religion is. Not merely tolerant of it,
    but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no religion is great enough
    or divine enough to add that new law to its code. - Mark Twain

    February 4, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
  6. readthequran

    The difference between Islam and other major religions is based upon their founders lifestyles. Muhammad "cursed be his name" was a warrior, not just a philosopher.

    Read his manifesto "quran" and you will notice it says stuff like "allah wants the heads removed of all non believers" and "if you are friends with a Jew your punishments will be the same as theirs" and "if your wife acts highhanded (mind of her own) you must beat her until she agrees with you" and I could go on and on and on.

    A dedicated Muslim can be charming, but the truth is they are truly bad wolves in sheep's clothing!

    February 4, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
    • SayWhaaaa!!

      Looks like you didn't "read the quran" HAHAHAHHAHA get it, its in his name. Ok

      February 4, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
    • readthequranagaindummy

      I did, you want the passages I'm referring to bud?

      February 4, 2011 at 5:49 pm |
    • readthequranagaindummy

      Read the chapter "sura" again, till then let the grown ups.talk kid!

      February 4, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
    • leeintulsa

      Anyone can pull psycho stuff out of either book. I suppose you stone your children for dissing you? Pull your head out. Both books were written by heatstroked desert people trying to take control of people from kings they didn't agree with

      February 4, 2011 at 6:10 pm |
    • Salim

      Readthekoran, Your knowledge of Quran is lacking. Fortunately, Everything you mentioned above is inaccurate. May the Lord of the universe shine His light on you.

      February 4, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      Sura (4)34
      “Men are the vigilant custodians of women, because of what Allah has endowed upon the one over the other, in that they spend from their means. Thus are those women righteous and devout, and protective in absentia over what Allahas deemed to be secure. As for those from whom you fear insolence, (first) edify them, (second) abstain from laying together with them, (lastly) beat them. However, if they seek reconciliation, do not be hostile against them. Verily, Allah is the Exalted the Great.”

      February 4, 2011 at 6:38 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      5:51 O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends: They are but friends to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.

      February 4, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      This one is just weird?!?!
      5:60 Then say: "Should I inform you [People of the Book] of those, who will have even worse recompense from Allah than the transgressors? They are those whom Allah has cursed; who have been under His wrath; some of whom were turned into apes and swine; who worshipped taghut [the devil or idols]; those are the people who are in a far worse plight and who have turned farthest away from the Right Way." (Maududi)

      February 4, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      ... who believe! Take not as (your) Bitanah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you ...

      February 4, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      ... of those who say, "We believe" with their mouths, but their hearts believe not, and from among the Jews. [They are] avid listeners to falsehood, listening to another people who have not come to you. They distort words ...

      February 4, 2011 at 7:08 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are [in fact] allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is [one] of them. Indeed, Allah guides ...

      February 4, 2011 at 7:09 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers [to be] the Jews

      February 4, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      And (remember) when your Lord declared that He would certainly keep on sending against them (i.e. the Jews), till the Day of Resurrection, those who would afflict them with a humiliating torment. Verily, your Lord is Quick in Retribution (for the ..

      February 4, 2011 at 7:14 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      ... has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

      February 4, 2011 at 7:15 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      ... and before it, came the Book of Musa (Moses), a guidance and a mercy, they believe therein, but those of the sects (Jews, Christians and all the other non-Muslim nations) that reject it (the Quran), the Fire will be their promised meeting-place. So be ...

      February 4, 2011 at 7:18 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      But if they (disbelievers, idolaters, Jews, Christians, polytheists, etc.) turn away (from Islamic Monotheism) say (to them O Muhammad SAW): "I give you a notice (of war as) to be known to us all alike. And I know not whether that which you are promised (i ...

      February 4, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      And He brought down (the ones) of the population of the Book (Or: Family of the Book, i.e., the Jews and christians) who backed them from their bastions, and hurled horror in their hearts; a group you killed and (another) group you (made) captive.

      February 4, 2011 at 7:22 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      Ok do you want the quran passages about beheading non believers?

      February 4, 2011 at 7:30 pm |
    • Ireadiitsscary!

      The quran, unlike other religious books, mentions the other religions by name condoning hatred and violence specifically against Jews and Christians and non believers

      February 4, 2011 at 7:57 pm |
    • Kiko Buttte

      "Read his manifesto "quran" and you will notice it says stuff like "allah wants the heads removed of all non believers" " – And if that was true, then there wouldn't be such a term as "People of the Book," or the dhimmi taxes established in the medieval eras

      February 4, 2011 at 8:33 pm |
    • readthequranagaindummy

      Sura 8:12 in the quran clearly states to behead non-believers, why do you think its such a common terrorist tactic! Kickmybutte ha! Not today son! Isa gota me soma facts! Ohyeah!

      February 4, 2011 at 9:00 pm |
  7. marlin

    True christians love their enemies. They don't kill'em/// if you allow Christ to take away your sin u will b a new creature

    February 4, 2011 at 5:02 pm |
    • YBP

      Marlin the doctrine of vicarious redemption (the idea that someone else can suffer and die for some evil that you may or may not have done) is both impossible and immoral. Let go of this perverted idea, and take responsibility for your own salvation. If Jesus existed (and that is not a given since his name means 'salvation,' he's probably an allegorical character), and if the stories about his visit to Jerusalem early in the reign of Pontius Pilate are true, he died because he was an anti-Roman insurgent, probably involved in a Zealot uprising over the use of the Temple treasury to finance the construction of an aqueduct. Read the Gospel of Mark. The uprising is mentioned in passing. Ever wonder about that? Probably not.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
  8. joeNYC

    Wow... who out there remembers when there was a fence running up the middle of that street- just after 9/11?

    I could care less about the mosque. There will be a lot of excitement about it (good and bad) but in the end it will matter for nothing.

    I just hope nothing happens to the fantastic Dakota Roadhouse next door – that place was a safe harbor for many Ground Zero construction workers. And has always been a great place to go for a burger and a beer.

    February 4, 2011 at 4:58 pm |
    • 1456

      Andy kept us all going during the clean up. A place to eat and take a nap

      February 4, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
  9. RS

    Did Joe just say that tens and hundreds of thounsands have been killed in clinic bombings? Or was it a disingenuous attempt to lump one modern thing (clinic bombings) with a bunch of others century old things, and consider them all equivalent. This is getting pathetic. All things are not the same. Islam and Chrsitianity are different. I personally don't follow either religion, but to compare the inquisition to modern terrorism is silly.

    February 4, 2011 at 4:57 pm |
  10. Ethan

    So shall we now list the thousands and thousands of killings that those in the name of Christianity have committed and in some place in the world continue to commit?

    Shall we now go on and on about the child molesting that go on within the Catholic Church?

    Seriously, the world is a screwed up place with many upon many who use religion to control, to manipulate and to justify and doing horrible things. All persons who use religion for violence and not part of that religion. They are imposters.

    February 4, 2011 at 4:51 pm |
    • YBP

      Well put. I agree.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
    • readthequranagaindummy

      Their are idiots in all religions, but the reason why there are so many modern muslim idiots is the qurans writings. Other religions have evolved but the Muslims can't unless they get a new holy book!

      February 4, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
  11. lee majors

    I, Lee Majors, approve of this story.

    February 4, 2011 at 4:50 pm |
  12. stranger steve

    Rodney king did it

    February 4, 2011 at 4:46 pm |
  13. Emmanuel

    Making a judgement about a faith, be it Christianity or Islam, on the basis of a few extremists has about the same logical errancy as saying evolution is false because Hitler's murderous race purification rampage was fueled by his study of Darwin's theory, a truth written by Hitler himself. Similarly, you can't affirm the truth of a faith by how much good its proponents do. There have thousands of selfless Christians, Muslims, and atheists in our history. The truth of God doesn't lie in how much good or bad others do, but in your inward examination of your relationship with God, the good you know you can't do without God, and the bad you know you would do without Him.

    February 4, 2011 at 4:46 pm |
    • readthequran

      A terrorist is not an extremist but a good Muslim who follows the quran, read it and see!

      February 4, 2011 at 5:13 pm |
    • YBP

      After reading about three dozen books on the subject by college and seminary professors, I think I can make a pretty sound judgement. Religion is useless nonsense. Anyne who thinks that it is useful or true in any way is delusional, and should do the research.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
    • Mtherory

      World War I, World War II, Mongols, Civil War, Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Vietnam, Barbary Wars, Culture Revolution—great travesties of mankind. Neither the less, these wars were not fought over religion. Actually, most of them were fought by Atheists.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
    • LV

      Islam calls on followers to govern by religion. That turned into Shariah law. No other modern-day religion teaches people to kill the non-believers so that they can expand their religious law to all. Jihad is our enemy.

      February 4, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
    • Charles Dexter Ward

      Howzabout a billion extremists?

      February 4, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
    • paperjihad

      @readthequran Better yet, read a good biography of the Prophet (pbuh) first. I highly recommend "The Sealed Nectar" or "Muhammad: His life based on the earliest sources". Even Karen Armstrong's book is acceptable. This will give you the necessary background by which to understand the context of the Qur'an. Because as we all know, or at least should know, proof texting without proper context is not only pointless, it's dishonest.

      February 5, 2011 at 12:37 pm |
    • readthequranagaindummy

      It does not matter the context the quran was written in, because mentality disturbed Muslims take its hateful passages against Jews and Christians at face value.
      Even if there were wars going on, what context would justify Muhammad telling Muslims to beat their wives for disagreeing with them. Can anyone explain this?

      February 6, 2011 at 1:47 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      To answer your question:
      Muhammad is not "telling his followers to beat their wives".
      Muhammaed is "ALLOWING his followers to beat their wives" in case of a serious disagreement arises between the couple.

      While to someone immature like you, this may sound the same, but when you do grow up, get married and by some odd, but unlikely chance are able to stay married for more than 20 years, you will appreciate what Muhammad said a lot more than you do now as an immature inexperienced and I assume young person.

      Marriage is tough, most marriages in the christian world fail, to the point that most people do not even get married anymore. In Islamic culture, marriage is one of the foundations of society. Without marriage, the social fabric of the community falls apart
      quickly. Sin reigns and people gravitate towards evil (see christiandom today for prime example).

      With this in mind, Muhammad (or God as Muslims would claim) felt it better to "beat your wife" in the heat of the moment, then to break up your marriage and cause bigger harm to both parties. A slap or a twisting of the arm in anger against your spouse is much better as an outlet for anger, then a harsh word or throwing someone out of the house literally.

      This is the Islamic position, and this is the islamic way of safeguarding marriages. A wife can recover from physical abuse, most husbands are not serial abusers anyway, but harsh words and broken marriage are much worse, and divorced women suffer much more in comparison than a once or twice abused spouse does in comparison.

      February 6, 2011 at 2:24 am |
  14. Descarado

    Wasn't this dude covered by Barack Hussein Obama's, blessed be his name, DADT? After all, this is The Obama Victory Mosque at Ground Zero. What happened?

    February 4, 2011 at 4:43 pm |
    • Verbage

      Didnt take long for the Repubs to link this to Obama...no suprise in your desperation.

      February 4, 2011 at 4:45 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      DADT is the military. Obama doesn't own or influence the real estate use in Brooklyn, the local borough does and THEY approved it.
      Idiocy IS squarely yours and you are welcome to it, Descardo.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:28 pm |
    • Art

      @Openminded. I agree with you. I see nothing but Hate coming from our Enemies, and I'm done being put down and critiqued for my beliefs. Since they have said infidels and Jews must die, and it's us or them, so be it.

      February 4, 2011 at 8:55 pm |
  15. Openminded

    Enough is enough. Well said Reality. If Muslims can teach hate, murder, stoning, whipping and racism, turn the Racist, Nazis and Klan loose as well.

    February 4, 2011 at 4:43 pm |
    • Ace Frehley

      openminded. sadly, your post doesnt even make enough sense to refute......

      February 4, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
    • Xugos

      Incoherent post is incoherent.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
    • readthequranagaindummy

      Half of Pakistan would want most of us to be put to death for blasphemy! Am I the only one who follows the world? Well other then openminded

      February 4, 2011 at 6:25 pm |
  16. ruemorgue

    Whatever happened to loyalty to a parish or the Islamic equivalent? Did the water get a little hot for the Iman?

    February 4, 2011 at 4:41 pm |
    • Let Us Prey

      Happy Trails, Imam 'Liability.' Welcome to the great American tradition of putting your foot in your piehole...

      February 4, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Great AMERICAN tradition? Nope, we have no corner on the market of the open mouth, insert foot and chew.
      Consider the Italian PM. France's politicians. Oh, the examples are endless.
      It's a human thing.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
  17. Jiri

    The earth is not flat and there is no god – wake up people....

    February 4, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
    • W247

      JIRI where is the bible does it talk about a flat earth???? Go read Genesis again.

      February 4, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
    • Xugos

      Neither the Bible nor the Qur'an say that the Earth is flat. The Qur'an actually goes as far as to say it's spherical and in an orbit.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
    • NyteShayde

      Genesis is a bunch of BS just like the rest of the bible

      February 4, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
    • YBP

      @ W247: Please let's not pretend that many many people responsible for writing your Bible did not understand the world to be flat.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
    • Eric

      Um, the BIBLE talks about the world as being a sphere and it was written a couple thousand years ago when people were POSITIVE the world was flat. Just one of hundreds of phophecies that have come true of course, not one has failed in fact. It's that many people have an opinion about the bible yet have not read it and never took the time to understand and reason on it, lol. Now that's stupidity. Let's pretend it's not real, that must mean we're not accountable and can think and do as we please. SORRY, ignorance is never an excuse.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
    • TruthSquid

      Liars Xugod and WD247 would like to pretend that religion throughout its destructive history has not been bitterly opposed to, denying, and suppressing any science that conflicted with its BS credo. They will tell you Galileo was never arrested, tried, and imprisonedf for verifying earlier theories that the earth revolved around the sun rather than, as religion claimed, being the center of the universe itself. No – he was merely given room and board and a quiet workspace to further his research! And they will deny that Dubya in servitude to his tax-dodging ministers and religious backers murdered and foisted needless suffering on thousands of afflicted taxpaying Americans by banning government funding for breakthrough embryonic stem cell research. Until education and factual revelations debunk and eliminate organized religion once and for all, at least make it pay its fair share of the tax burden.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
    • Mtherory

      The earth is flat. We live in a hologram. The universe is a plane.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • MrClean

      The presumption in Jiri's statement isn't that the bible says the world is flat, it is that the majority of the world believed so until it was disputed w/ evidence, and that "religion" would follow in the same fashion. Just sayin...

      February 4, 2011 at 5:55 pm |
    • Bill

      I thought Phil Collins was the lead singer for Genisis..... Oh wait you are not being funny ... Oh well.... I think that you are a bunch of BS as well NyteShayde....

      February 4, 2011 at 6:20 pm |
    • jack willims

      there are 2 things iam not sure of the world is not flat and there is no god. but i no for sure there is no JIRI

      February 4, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
    • Semiahmoo

      †: the real word.

      February 4, 2011 at 9:26 pm |
    • Mark Yelka

      "The earth is not flat." Then, W247 gets defensive and asks where in the bible it says this, though the author said nothing about any bible. The point is: reality is more important than living with delusion. Oh, and by the way, god is imaginary and belief in god is delusional.

      February 4, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
    • Karloff

      @W247: And where in the bible does it explain the structure of the universe? Plate tectonics? Atomic particles? DNA?

      February 4, 2011 at 9:31 pm |
    • jesus

      W247 is correct. Nowhere in the Bible does it say that the Earth is flat, although that was an accepted fact in the Bronze Age. It did say that the Earth was created 6,000 years ago, a man lived in a whale, Noah took two of every animal on the planet and put 'em in an ark. If the Bible is the work of God, then we've got a massive conspiracy amongst the world's scientific community.

      February 4, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
  18. Luv God

    @reality: really? who gave you the authority to dictate what a religion is about?? I respect all religions so please don't categorize Islam with violence..it is rhetoric of this sort that confuses the dumfounded...

    February 4, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
    • TruthSquid

      I couldn't agree with you more, LuvBug. KILL THE INFIDELS!

      February 4, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
    • pooch

      do you respect all religions that you define as a religion? or do you respect all religions that anyone defines to themselves as a religion? (even if the religion they define to themselves is not on your list of religions?)

      February 4, 2011 at 6:04 pm |
    • Brad

      Sigh, who cares, I don't care what you believe, or what anybody else believes, wants or does. If you try to hurt me, or force your ways on me, I will hurt you, it's that plain and simple. Other than that, do as you wish, you want to serve a false god, do it, you want to believe in no god, believe it, just everybody shut up about your stupid beliefs, neither side can prove crap.

      February 4, 2011 at 6:39 pm |
    • Anderson Cooper

      Religion is a mental disorder and a disease

      February 4, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
    • Minos

      @Brad - I agree with at least one of your crotchety points, "neither side (believer / non-believer) can prove crap" - there's some truth in that statement to be sure. But what I got a kick out of was you pontificating about how you don't care about what people believe, but then you felt compelled to share what you believe and expected folks to read it. The best part is that you're whining about reading about peoples beliefs on CNN's "Belief Blog". Really? What's wrong with this picture? Take your time, it's like finding Waldo. It will come to you if you relax and don't try too hard.

      February 4, 2011 at 7:40 pm |
    • Charles Dexter Ward

      Islam is violent. Period. Close quotes. End of story.

      February 4, 2011 at 7:59 pm |
    • Mark Yelka

      You "respect all religions." I disrespect those that are based on the delusion of an imaginary god. The delusion that there is a god is the cause of suffering, not an end to it. Only when people can outgrow the need for imaginary gods will society progress and all people's lives improve.

      February 4, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
    • NED

      Does anyone study religious history? Apparently not!! Only thing wrong with religion is that it was created by man to control man!!! I encourage everyone to google there history and fact check from books besides the bible( written by man). There is sooooo much more proof that religion is a farce then there is supporting the fables in your book of Mormons, old testaments, new testaments and Quran!!! It's funny how most all those books were written by men in different time periods, and yet there stories all go back and match those of the ancient Egyptians. Plagerism?!!!!!

      February 5, 2011 at 11:09 am |
  19. Sri

    Someday, Islam will morph into what Christianity is today – a moderate religion that focuses on morality rather than rituals.

    February 4, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
    • Ace Frehley

      no religion is moderate when it makes the distinction between THEM and US.

      February 4, 2011 at 4:38 pm |
    • Jeff

      Are you kidding? Moderates. I wish there were more off them. Modern day "fundamentalist" Christians are anything but. The hate that is spewed in American religion is second to none.

      February 4, 2011 at 4:50 pm |
    • Jill

      Rituals lol. Sorry I didn't realize transubstantiation didn't count.

      February 4, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
    • Tom

      So, Jeff, you are some kind of authority on the evangelical church in America.......exactly why?

      February 4, 2011 at 5:11 pm |
    • wyciwyg

      dont hold your breath, sri, you'll turn blue!

      February 4, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
    • ???

      When will Christianity morph into that?

      February 4, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
    • YBP

      Someday all religion will be understood as useless nonsense.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:19 pm |
    • Robyn

      Is this part of the problem?
      When a single person declares this is what Christianity (or Islam or Hindu or Jewish or Agnostic) IS.

      Bumper Sticker Religion to describe 2 1/2 Billion (with a B) people.
      Christianity is good . . . , it is also great, bad, terrible, neutral, and many other things.

      The world is a very complex place.
      We need to celebrate the good parts and work to change the bad parts of ALL faiths.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
    • TruthSquid

      Tax these enormous, ornate, arrogant churches, mosques, synagogues as the commercial real estate they are and finally let them approach offsetting the horrendously inordinate burden they place on the infrastructure and staffing of our strapped communities.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Yep! Like the Roman Catholic church, who promote morality over altar boys...
      It's pretty much there already, out of 1.6 billion Muslims, the problems we've had is obviously a minority.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
    • TrollPolice

      8/10. Now THIS is quality troll work. Not too over the top. Not too inflammatory. But still comically wrong-headed enough to make people stop what they're doing to respond. The only things stopping it from gaining elite level are the lack of poorly-sourced statistics and brevity. I suggest a reference to a thread on answeringgenesis.org, and the addition of a quote. If you can incorrectly identify the source of the quote, that's just icing. Still, well done.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
    • Bill

      Jill, next you will say that Tansubstantiation is really Ritual Cannibalism.... LOL Transubstantiation is not a Ritual but rather a belief... The pocess of the blessing invoked is a ritual .... but not the belief. Most of us have rituals.... baseball players when they come to the plate comes to mind.....

      February 4, 2011 at 6:15 pm |
    • LV

      Islam needs a Martin Luther, but remember, his impact took hundreds of years to bear fruit. During out lifetimes, we must deal with the Jihad driven by Islam as a fact.

      February 4, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
    • arthurr

      you are sooooo WRONG.

      February 4, 2011 at 6:28 pm |
    • Mike

      That is a joke right?

      February 4, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
    • frank

      Jesus is the way. And there is no other. We can't never stop talking about jesus if we do the rocks wil praise him cuz all thing. Belong to him like or not at the name of jesus everyone will kneel...

      February 4, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
    • Anderson Cooper

      Crack is Whack Sri !!! this guy!! Islam is a Fascist Theocracy and will not allow its people to change. Besides Religion is a mental disorder and a disease. I hope a thousand years from now there is no religion. It separates so many people. So many Ignorant Zealots with no direction.

      February 4, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
    • Charles Dexter Ward

      And in the meantime? Do we have to watch the world burn while Muslims catch up to the rest of evolved civilization?

      February 4, 2011 at 7:58 pm |
    • paperjihad

      @Sri You can't have content without form, but form without content is meaningless. In Islam we have form, but we also have Ihsan, which provides the content.

      February 4, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
    • Mark Yelka

      People speak of "morality" as if is a good thing. Morality is relative to a value system, but religious values are based on the delusion of an imaginary god. And Islam morality is a bit too harsh for many people. Better than morals are ethics.

      February 4, 2011 at 9:02 pm |
    • iac249

      @Mark Yelka "imaginary God" is simply an expression of faith, just as "there is no god but God" is an expression of faith. Ethics can follow a certain philosophy, but then morals are ontological, which itself is a philosophy. So in my estimation, your post is no more or less 'relative' than the ones offered by God-fearing persons.

      February 4, 2011 at 9:22 pm |
    • Nursehope

      Jeff:you are spot on. Outside of our borders, American Fundamentalist Christians are looked upon in the same way some US citizens view radical Islamic followers. They are dangerous and not at all conducive to a society of people working together for the good of ALL regardless of religious belief.

      February 4, 2011 at 9:24 pm |
    • philip

      I hope u rite,,the way its goin & spreadin all over...the radicals r on the forefront as always...either believe in allah or git ur head chopped off...no reasonin...only fear rules...the cause for its success..

      February 4, 2011 at 9:27 pm |
    • jesus

      As that famous Muslim thinker, Al Jolson would say;

      Al Jolson would say;

      I'd walk a million miles
      for one of your smiles
      my mammi"

      February 4, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    • Mark Yelka

      @iac249 No, faith is not required to say "god is imaginary." That statement is a result falls out from the fact that the various gods are mutually exclusive. Do you think Thor is imaginary? Yes. Zeus? Yes. The sun god Ra? Yes. It requires no faith to say 1 does not equal 0. And, if god is not imaginary, then where is god. Conveniently absent. And, people have all sorts of excuses why god is absent. But, the answer is the same as why Thor, Zeus, and Ra are absent: god is imaginary.

      February 4, 2011 at 9:39 pm |
    • Ben

      Okay, but there is a lot of Christian-inspired violence happening around the world to this day. You have extremist outliers in the United States (like Dr. Tiller), but most of this violence happens in poor parts of the world, like Africa. Poverty is not a good condition for security.

      February 4, 2011 at 9:40 pm |
    • soupacracka

      I agree, wouldn't it be wonderful................................................

      February 4, 2011 at 10:17 pm |
    • Jae


      February 4, 2011 at 11:48 pm |
    • Jay Jr

      Humanity is the major religion in which we all have been enrolled since birth but dilemma is that a great percentage of us don't practice it and deny other humans their rights as human beings.

      February 5, 2011 at 9:45 am |
    • paperjihad

      @Mark Just because one or all faiths may have the wrong name or concept of God does not necessarily follow that "God is imaginary" is a scientific fact. Given the a priori definition of science, that it can only describe observable, empirical facts, "God is imaginary" is necessarily a statement of faith. However, philosophy and logic could be used to at least refute the notions of some religions, it remains that "there is no God" cannot be proven scientifically. Hence, it is a statement of faith.

      February 5, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
    • jeremy

      ha read the Quran sometime they wont change read these texts and see for your self
      Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)
      Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends." (Surah 5:51)
      Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
      make war on the leaders of unbelief...Make war on them: God will chastise them at your hands and humble them. He will grant you victory over them..." (Surah 9:12-)
      Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)
      Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)
      If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
      Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)
      Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)
      Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)
      now i don't know about you but Jesus and his sermon on the mound and other examples in the bible sound nothing like this.

      February 6, 2011 at 8:25 am |
    • Name*Dee

      Give me a break! Fundie Christians aren't murdering people like Islam has and continues to do all over the world. Millions of deaths. Africa is nearly destroyed. However, America became the greatest nation on earth wearing the mantle of Christianity!

      February 6, 2011 at 10:16 am |
  20. Jerry Whitson

    What does Anderson Cooper say about this?

    February 4, 2011 at 4:32 pm |
    • Abduction Agent

      Who cares what the thinks on this subject?

      February 4, 2011 at 4:40 pm |
    • Let Us Prey

      Andy's preoccupied trying not to have his ass handed to him in Egypt.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:15 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      He's asking for a steak for his eye.
      Apparently, you've not noticed he's stuck in Egypt ducking pro Mubarak thugs who have already beaten on him twice.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
    • "Just In"

      Don't be disrespecting Andy.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
    • Anderson C.

      Anderson Cooper is so awesome he can count to infinite.

      February 4, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
    • Renna

      I'm not sure your getting what he's trying to point out. There are rumors that Anderson Cooper is gay. He's trying to say that Anderson Cooper should give his opinion, on this situation because of these rumors. Though I'm unsure if CNN will post this because I pointed this out.

      February 4, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
    • Criminy

      @RENNA - Those are not just rumors. Anderson Cooper is gay. He is terrific, and he is gay. There is nothing wrong with that. If people have not realized that, then I hope that when they do, they also realize that he is the same super person they loved before they found out. It doesn't change who he is. It IS who he is.

      February 4, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
    • @irony

      What?!! Anderson Cooper is gay? When did that happen?

      February 4, 2011 at 9:30 pm |
    • FrankLee

      That's funny – Anderson doesn't KISS like he's gay...

      February 4, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • Calvin

      What will he say while wearing a tight tee-shirt....

      February 4, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    • Renna

      @Criminy: Well, I don't want to speculate since he hasn't come out and said, "I'm gay." There are pics of him with a guy on celebrity gossip websites, and they say that guy is his boyfriend, but sometimes they just make up stories. There aren't any pics of them kissing each other. Just the two of them walking around together. Anderson Cooper is the same awesome person if he is gay, or isn't. I still like his show and hope he stays safe in Egypt. It doesn't matter who you identify as, if you're a good person, you're still a good person.

      February 4, 2011 at 10:21 pm |
    • ChrisMeece

      Anderson Copper isn't gay .. but his boyfriend is.

      February 4, 2011 at 10:58 pm |
    • Name*readthisandtellmorepeople

      Read Muslim man cuts head of wife in new york

      February 5, 2011 at 6:29 am |
    • Name*readthisandtellmorepeople

      Muslim cuts head of wife in new york

      February 5, 2011 at 6:36 am |
    • BC

      Anderson Cooper is gay?? I thought that every Liberal thats on CNN is gay. Im not suprised. Lol...so funny how you gay libs try to use big words when you speak but nothing with any substance comes out. If your a lib your either..Gay, black, or stupid. Lmao.....bye..bye..Obummer 2012.

      February 5, 2011 at 8:44 am |
    • BC

      Oh...by the way. Obummer is a muslim and I hear he has a muslim boyfriend. His name is Pookie.

      February 5, 2011 at 8:49 am |
    • Fu9l

      Islamic community center in New York is that not the center that spawned all the terrorists that did the first world trade center attack ?? once again this is a cult and should be made illegal in the united states i find this no more worthy than the hari krishnas of the 60's only there more violent and have proven this several times over talking anti american constantly kick em to the curb ......

      February 5, 2011 at 8:54 am |
    • NED

      BC.- whomever you are, your an idiot and the problem that rests in our great society. Gay or not he's a good journalist, who believes in the good on people. Unlike you, a bigot, whom can't take that the world is evolving, and leaving the likes of you behind. Your an uneducated moron who needs to read more newspapers and listen to less Limbaugh! Your a joke!!

      February 5, 2011 at 10:51 am |
    • BC

      I wanted to say sorry. I resently did not pass my GED 2 times and now I'm angry. I will work harder and try to get my educasion. Once again, I sorry that I said that dumb meen things.

      February 5, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
    • Ed W.

      After reading the article, and with the knowledge of what happens in the world everyday, all I can say is someone is coo coo for cocoa puffs.

      February 5, 2011 at 6:55 pm |
    • Toxic factories

      China reporters aren't allowed to cover Egypt.

      February 5, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
    • jeremy

      if its not about bashing anti gay protestors Andy don't care 🙂

      February 6, 2011 at 8:14 am |
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