February 23rd, 2011
03:45 PM ET

Wrestler who refused to grapple with girl explains decision

The high school wrestler in Iowa who forfeited a match against a girl in a state tournament last week says he objected both to "compromising" positions that such a match could entail and to the idea of inflicting violence on a girl.

“Wrestling is a combat sport, and at times it gets violent, and you get put in moves and holds that are comprising,” said Joel Northrup, a sophomore. “I just don’t believe it's right that a boy and a girl should, in this manner, wrestle.”

Northrup’s dad, Jamie, said that the decision to forfeit was his son’s alone but that it reflected the family’s Christian convictions.

“Even though there’s no specific Scripture that addresses wrestling with girls, there is the biblical Christian principle of treating women with respect and dignity,” Jamie Northrup said, “and not looking at them as objects to be defeated on the wrestling mat to be, in some cases, groped or slammed.”

Joel Northrup, of Linn-Mar, forfeited a match Thursday to Cassy Herkelman, a freshman from Cedar Falls, who then advanced by default.

Both Northrup and Herkelman lost subsequent matches and were eliminated from the tournament before the finals.

But Northrup said Wednesday that he would forfeit a match against a girl even if it meant giving up a state championship.

“I would give up the chance," he said. "I wouldn’t wrestle a girl, whether it’s finals or any other meet or districts.”

Northrup said female wrestlers should face other girls.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Christianity • Sports • United States

soundoff (1,396 Responses)
  1. Zeke2112

    "He is right for himself, and that is all that matters. "

    Completely and utterly wrong. How many young women are going to be put off from entering a high school sport that is only available to boys based on this nonsense? How many fundamentalist cretins are going to think it's okay to tell their boys that it's okay to view women as weak and inferior?

    "He is the only one who has consequences for his decision, so it's nobody else's business."

    Your worldview is remarkably limited. And if you really think this is purely HIS decision – and not daddy's – then you are remarkably naive as well.

    February 23, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • lysander

      Go watch the WNBA and the NBA and then come back with that opinion.

      February 23, 2011 at 7:12 pm |
    • Male wrestler's mother in Iowa

      Whoa, whoa, whoa... now, you're not correct when you state that he was the only one who had consequences for his decision. Northrup was ranked #4 in the state. Had he wrestled, he would have continued on the winners side of the bracket, and Herkleman would have dropped to the losers side. The young man that then ended up having to wrestle Northrup on the losers side was stuck facing the #4 ranked kid in the state. In the Iowa High School State Wrestling tournament, if you lose your first two matches, you're out of the tournament. Thus, this kid should have probably had at least a fighting chance to win a match at the state tournament, but because of Northrup's refusal to wrestle a girl he lost two and was out. This is the kid I feel the worst for. He didn't stand a chance, but nobody seems to care about him.

      February 23, 2011 at 7:28 pm |
    • LE

      really? so now we all have to make personal decisions based on how politically correct they seem to every possible demographic out there? on what decisions they will cause a bunch of other people to make? lets be real. he chose not to fight a girl. he wasn't telling people she had fewer rights and spouting racial slurs. he made a personal decision about who he wanted to compete with based on his own personal ideology (and i refute anyone who says that he is 'wrong about religion'... everyone's religion is their own).

      if you're not physically hurting anyone or taking away someone elses' right to their personal freedoms (and no, it was not this girl's personal freedom to wrestle with him) then in my book, you're okay. some of us out there might think you're a bit of an ass, but whatever. that's OUR prerogative.

      February 23, 2011 at 7:39 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Oh it WAS his prerogative. However, to pretend that the consequences were solely his own is preposterous. And yes, we make decisions every day that affect other people and I hope you do take that into account or you are just an insensitive, careless d*ck. Maybe even upper management, god forbid.
      However, to gush over how great this kid was to stand up for his bigotry and his right to refuse to wrestle a girl is no better than if he refused to wrestle someone of another race or religion.

      February 24, 2011 at 12:36 pm |
    • Frogist

      @LE said "so now we all have to make personal decisions based on how politically correct they seem to every possible demographic out there?"
      – Not "politically correct", just correct.

      February 24, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
  2. Tyler

    I'm not religious at all, but I would shake the kid's hand if I could. He has shown himself to be a true gentleman and someone who sticks to his principles no matter what. In an age of Bradley Mannings, Julian Assanges and Barack Obamas, it's nice to know a man of integrity still exists. Hats off to you, Joel.

    February 23, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • Ian

      Bradley Manning and Julian Assange have made far greater sacrifices than this boy for sticking to their beliefs. I don't know about you, but I put more value in the belief that "governments shouldn't keep their crimes secret" than "women are delicate flowers".

      February 23, 2011 at 7:09 pm |
    • Da King

      Actually, Joel did not do this because of religion. Jesus was not too big on religion because it is of man. He did not wrestle the girl because he knows the word of God and because he loves Him back.

      February 23, 2011 at 11:30 pm |
    • LEB

      Being a gentleman is respecting a woman and her life choices, and seeing her as an equal. There is NOTHING respectful about treating women like delicate little flowers who are easily injured, and dictating what they "should" and "shouldn't" do based on gender alone. He doesn't have any right to make that decision or judgment for these girls. Whether a woman wrestles or fights on the front lines, if she thinks she can handle it, she deserves an equal chance.

      February 24, 2011 at 12:14 am |
  3. Henkv

    Young man, you did absolutely the right thing. With the PC crowed in this country going overboard with equality of men and women you remembered one thing: they are not.

    February 23, 2011 at 7:06 pm |
    • Christine G

      What makes me less equal than you?

      February 24, 2011 at 1:55 am |
  4. Steve

    I agree with him, it was against his beliefs and he stood up for his values, regardless of what anyone else thought.

    February 23, 2011 at 7:05 pm |
  5. Pat in IL

    The people here who are making stupid remarks about disagreeing with this boy's decision seem to forget that just because you disagree, or just because it is not the decision you would make, it's very definitely his right to make his own decisions. He is right for himself, and that is all that matters. Those who disagree are right for themselves, but they don't have any right to slam the other view. He is the only one who has consequences for his decision, so it's nobody else's business.

    February 23, 2011 at 7:03 pm |
    • Da King

      Actually Pat, he made this decision to honor God. Only believers can understand that motivation.

      February 23, 2011 at 11:20 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      "Actually Pat, he made this decision to honor God."

      By putting himself above another of God's creations? By introducing s3x into what should have been purely sport? Malarkey.

      "Only believers can understand that motivation."

      I forgot that only Christians know anything about devotion or sacrifice. /sarcasm

      February 23, 2011 at 11:41 pm |
    • MarkinFL

      Actually, he is not the only one with consequences. The opponent he refuses to face is now left with advancing by default and having people think perhaps she only got this far due to the reticence of various male opponents.
      If he would not fight an opponent because his beliefs kept him from fighting an someone of another race or religion or with a handicap that sends a message that the opponent is inappropriate for the compet.ition. Quite insulting really.

      February 24, 2011 at 12:22 pm |
  6. gabe weaver

    Wow....A young man acts upon his moral convictions and so many of you berate him for it. Unreal. This is a case that is completely subjective to an individual's personal beliefs and no one should judge him. We need more gentleman like him in this world.

    February 23, 2011 at 7:01 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      I guess it's okay that his moral convictions demean women and are based on 15 years of faulty religious programming?

      My morals state that ducks are the sole source of intellect in the world and no man should be above them – including the Pope and US government. Do you respect my convictions too?

      February 23, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
    • Dwyer99


      "I guess it's okay that his moral convictions demean women and are based on 15 years of faulty religious programming?

      My morals state that ducks are the sole source of intellect in the world and no man should be above them – including the Pope and US government. Do you respect my convictions too?"

      The pure amount of disjointed half facts thrown together into piles of unrelated trash disguised as reason based logical assumptions, slander, and emotion fueled responses on this board are laughable. To throw ridiculous analogies around citing extreme and nearly unrelated scenarios and then to stand on those statements as some sort of obviously uncounterable idea is simply a waste of board space.

      "I guess it's okay that his moral convictions demean women and are based on 15 years of faulty religious programming?"

      You make the conclusion that his moral convictions demean women based on what evidence? One could far easier argue that his own insecurities stand in the way of him facing the woman, which should not be taken by anyone as demeaning. High School Wrestling is, as it always has been, a voluntary activity. You then go on to state that this is based on 15 years of fault religious programming... Did you even bother to read this statement? So if this boy was Islamic, or Jewish, or Atheist, or any stood on any other sort of variation of belief, would it really change your statement? His belief in his religion is just that: his own belief. If his belief leads him to decide to forfeit a wrestling match, then why not let him? How is this at all radical? Is someone hurt as a result? Did the other family not acknowledge and publically state they respected and understood the boys platform? So if they could respect each other even though they clearly have very different beliefs, why is it that you cannot respect the beliefs of others? Is it because of the emotion fueled rage machine that drives so many to spew hate filled nonsensical filth? Is it because of a base need to prove yourself superior to others no matter the playing field? I ask, because clearly it is not fueled by reason, instead resorting to word choice based on the need to destroy an opponent in some sort of make believe combat.

      Instead of throwing around empty emotion filled words, try putting on a hat of reason. Is it not acceptable to view the world differently than someone else? Or maybe the fact that we have to decide if it is acceptable or not makes us arrogant in the first place? Maybe instead we should not be questioning how others look at the world and instead questioning how we look at our own world that surrounds us? To seek to better the world around us by bettering oneself?

      Sorry, it cllearly must be emotionally fueled illogical banter...

      February 23, 2011 at 7:28 pm |
    • Frogist

      Joel's actions and statements are demeaning to women. His insecurities may have been a motivating factor, but his statement told us what Joel and his father think women are supposed to be. And wrestlers who are equally matched with men is not among his definition of female. To Joel, Cassie is not a wrestler and compet!tor who earned her place, but merely a girl who unknowingly wandered into a man's realm. His not wanting to be put in a compromising situation tells of his belief that women are for se-x. His not wanting to slam her to the mat tells of his belief that all women are fragile creatures to be protected instead of protector. Joel and his father have discarded Cassie's achievments as an athlete and human being who has earned her position on the mat, and have chosen instead to consider only Cassie's gender and the stereotypes they are comfortable with. That is as demeaning as it gets.

      Also a belief is not just a harmless concept. Racism, se-xism, anti-semitism, are all beliefs. When put into practice they are very harmful indeed. Joel put his possible intimidation by women and his religiously-indoctrinated se-xism into practice. That is neither harmless, nor to be commended. And yes, someone else was hurt as a result – Cassie.

      BTW It is rather ironic for someone so quick to snap at someone else's sarcasm by criticizing them about "empty emotion filled words" when their own post is so filled with emotional language itself. One might consider your post a bit hypocritical.

      February 24, 2011 at 11:34 am |
  7. steve

    i agree if the boy does not feel right why should he have to go through with it he did the right thing the girl on the other hand she should respect him for what choice he had made it was a good move on his part

    February 23, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
    • Frogist

      @steve: It is his choice to make. Unfortunately he made a poor decision. Cassie has respected his decision. She has not contested it. But she is allowed, as are we, to express disappointment and dismay at his choice. Not to mention criticize his motivations.

      February 24, 2011 at 10:58 am |
  8. shane varner

    i've wrestled a girl she chose the sport she should choose to get hurt or injured it's wreslteing not swimming,

    February 23, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
  9. Laura Bush

    He's 15 years old for gods sake, let him be.

    February 23, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
    • Frogist

      @Laura Bush: Joel may just be a kid, but his father is not. And his father teaching him that women are not supposed to be treated equally deserves criticism.

      February 24, 2011 at 10:54 am |
  10. Ian

    He doesn't want to see them as objects on the wrestling mat? Meaning he *does* see his male opponents that way? What's wrong with this kid?

    February 23, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
  11. pk

    its a lose lose situation. you wrestle and win, people will say you shouldnt pick on weaker girls. you lose, and you'll be called every name under the sun.

    February 23, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    • LEB

      The kid weighs 112 lbs, so there are going to be PLENTY of girls who are as strong as he is. And if he was a real "man" secure in his masculinity, he wouldn't care about being beat by a girl. And if he got teased, he would maturely respond, "She's a good athlete, and I respect her. She won fair and square."

      February 24, 2011 at 12:10 am |
  12. GSA

    I respect that he is sticking to his opinion and not shying away from publicly stating his position amongst all the hooplah surrounding this issue but his reasoning of the Bible and it's treatment of women just seems so wrong. It just didn't come off as caring for women but instead looking down on them and making them seem weak and needing to be protected. My sister wrestled in high school and although she didn't have any matches with guys she did practice with them and she loved it and they showed her nothing but respect and admiration, she even went so far as to say that the guys on the wrestling team were a lot more respectful of her and women in general than most guys she dealt with. She also had a broken nose and ankle, injuries just like the boys and said it only made her stronger and she was glad that she was treated the same as all the others.

    February 23, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
  13. Joker

    He clearly did not want to risk losing to a girl. Combat? Pleeeazzzzze its HS wrestling and he needs to get over his bad self. lol

    February 23, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
  14. Hersh

    Wrestling is just a way of practicing how to assault and ra-pe someone. If you want to overpower someone you can wrestle them to the ground and even kill them with wrestling moves.
    How many ra-pists took wrestling in high school? A majority, I'd bet. It's too much of a useful skill for any would-be ra-pist to ignore.
    If he doesn't want to wrestle women, maybe he has no plans to ra-pe any of them in the future. That would be a good thing.
    But the bible doesn't protect women at all – I'm guessing he's truly ignorant of the misogynistic aspects of his religion.
    In terms of abusing women, Christianity is right up there with Islamic beliefs.
    Now let's hear from all the women who want to defend the bible as a wonderful thing that abuses them because they "deserve it". Many women defend their abusers. Masochists are a sad segment of society.
    And wrestling is about domination. Violent physical domination.
    I bet a majority of ra-pists have wrestling experience. But do the cops think of that when they go looking for one? Nope.

    February 23, 2011 at 4:52 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      Clearly, we should ban wrestling then.

      February 23, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
    • Hersh

      That would only be a lame attempt to treat the symptoms and not the causes of these problems. So I do not agree with you that it is "clear". Wrestling is too imbedded in our sports culture. Watching sweaty men wrestling is too attractive to some people, so banning the sport would never happen until we took away the reasons for it in the first place.

      February 23, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
    • CRAIG

      You should be careful and read God's word, it is pretty clear how God wants us to treat women. With love, and care and respect, bravo for this young mans stance.

      February 23, 2011 at 6:32 pm |
    • Hersh

      If you are referring to the bible, it says nothing of the sort whatsoever. As for "God's word", which word is that, exactly?
      You should be careful not to say stupid things on the internet. Oops! Too late!

      February 23, 2011 at 6:44 pm |
    • Male wrestler's mother in Iowa

      You are a complete moron. Seriously.

      February 23, 2011 at 7:04 pm |
    • Scott

      Your remarks are disturbing on many levels, you should look into talking to a mental health professional.

      February 23, 2011 at 8:04 pm |
    • JW

      What a simple society we have become to think that there is only one correct answer to any given situation. For this young man, this decision is a very important step on the way to becoming who he wants to be. That the decision has consequences for himself and others is a lesson everyone should learn, the earlier in life the better. That others can make decisions out of their convictions that seem to slight us is also a good lesson to learn. That when we make a decision based on our convictions we are likely making ourselves the object of ridicule, that is important to know. Learning how to handle these things with grace and dignity makes you a much better person. The full impact of his decision can't be known now because it will continue in the lives of those affected as long as they live. It will only become what they make of it.

      February 25, 2011 at 10:36 am |
  15. Humilis Vir

    Bravo! It's about time morals mattered... and indeed, one can submit to this being a moral issue. The rest of society should take back universal principles... certainly you may find this young man in a more successful position in the future than most of the relativists out here opposing him.

    February 23, 2011 at 4:50 pm |
    • LEB

      Good thing his "morality" doesn't require him to refuse to grapple with a non-white student.

      February 24, 2011 at 12:20 am |
  16. CW

    I agree with him on his stance.

    In case all of you misinterpret....Men fought Men in wars and sports since the beginning of time. I absolutely agree that men(boys) shouldn't wrestle women(girls). Let me give you another example imagine if the NFL allowed these same women to take a some of the hits that these guys l-'ay on each other. Nothing against women at all but God did create them as the weaker ves-'sel. Women can do anything and if they want to play football or whatever then there needs to be a league for them to do so against each other.....WHERE MEN EXCLUDED AS WELL.

    February 23, 2011 at 4:40 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      This is wrestling we're talking about, not MMA. If she were truly the "weaker vessel," I'd venture a guess that he could likely dispatch her without doing any physical harm and in rather quick fashion.

      However, I'm going out on a limb here and suggest that if this girl had qualified for the state tournament, she's not nearly as weak as you'd like her to be. I would also suggest that his misplaced chivalry is insulting. To deny this girl the opportunity to test herself against a peer is condescending and, dare I say, childish.

      February 23, 2011 at 4:46 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      Your response borders on the insane. If a woman wants to compete – knowing she might be at a disadvantage and could get hurt – why stop her? Ive' met women who could break me in two – and I'm 5'11/200 pounds. They could definitely cripple a placekicker or light up a wideout.

      Also, I demand proof that women were "created as a weaker vessel." Your dusty tome is questionable in credibility, so please provide some sound proof that this is the case. Evenly matched in size and muscle density, there's no reason a man and woman could not compete as equals.

      February 23, 2011 at 6:59 pm |
    • Male wrestler's mother in Iowa

      SeanNJ – Your quote "his misplaced chivalry is insulting. To deny this girl the opportunity to test herself against a peer is condescending and, dare I say, childish" is the best quote I have heard yet. My son has wrestled girls – we tell him that when a girl steps on the mat, she's no longer a girl, she's a wrestler. I really feel that this young man made a poor decision and I would hope his high school coach addresses it with him. If I had a wrestler refuse to wrestle anyone – for any reason – I don't think I'd be allowing him to wrestle varsity.

      February 23, 2011 at 7:08 pm |
    • Oh please

      The girl signed up for wrestling knowing that she would eventually wrestle with boys, That was HER decision to make. It's really patronizing for him to make the decision for her.

      February 23, 2011 at 7:09 pm |
    • Mel

      I agree. Only men should fight in wars because men are more expendable. /sarcasm.

      February 23, 2011 at 10:07 pm |
    • Hockey_fan

      Your comparison of girls going out onto the football field and taking tackles from NFL players to this situation is RIDICULOUS. You obviously know nothing about sports, you wrestle based on weight. meaning she would only be out there with people of comparable size and I am sure she is fully aware of all of the risks that are involved since she made it all the way to the state tournament already! She trained just as hard as this kid did and it is insulting that he wouldn't wrestle her.

      February 23, 2011 at 10:41 pm |
    • LEB

      Uh, the NFL and a high school wrestling team are like apples and oranges. This kid weighs 112 lbs, and there is no way he'd ever have even the slightest shot at the NFL or any pro sport. There are plenty of girls who can best a 112 lb kid.

      February 24, 2011 at 12:07 am |
    • bill

      I dont know about weaker vessel, but body fat wise id def give it to the hs guy over girl

      February 24, 2011 at 1:07 am |
  17. SeanNJ

    $20 says that 15 years from now, the local sheriff needs to answer a "domestic dispute" call at this kid's house.

    February 23, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
    • Jay

      Hear hear!
      The gospels of Christianity were written nearly 2000 years ago, by a very misogynistic society. Cherry picking the bible to justify his beliefs is just a cop out.

      I do agree with the kid however, wrestling a girl, is just um, nah... I could just see her calling foul for being put in a hold that would touch her in some way.

      On that premise, I would not wrestle with her unless she were my girlfriend

      February 23, 2011 at 7:02 pm |
    • myklds

      @Jay...your reply seems a lil bit childish for me but in-fairness I find it straight and honest than other Atheist rants against religion but were cleverly tried to cloak it behind articulate and well-versed statements making it look like an issue of bravery and cowardice or equal ability of any gender.

      February 24, 2011 at 3:06 am |
    • Frogist

      @Jay: So guys wrestle so they can get other guys to touch their junk? I mean if you expect someone to touch Cassie inappropriately I guess that's what guys must do to each other when they're wrestling, right? Or are you saying that guys will call a foul just so she doesn't poke them in the ass or do anything gay to them? If this is prevalent in wrestling, I don't know why anyone would call it a sport.

      February 24, 2011 at 10:23 am |
  18. Bryan

    Luke: good work there, you call him demeaning names for standing up for a principle and worldview. Good job buddy you really ripped that fifteen year old who cannot defend his position to you...Do you feel like a man? Do you feel tough? Are you smarter than him? Congrats.

    February 23, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • Luke

      Standing up for beliefs doesn't make you a man. Standing up for the right beliefs, however, does. And this kid is mixed up and thinks women are lesser beings and weaker than he. If he were a man, he'd wrestle her. The girl only wants to be treated like everyone else, and he denied her that. As for me; he did defend his position, publically at that. I do feel like, and happen to be, a man. I am tough, holding rank in a number of martial arts forms and wrestled when I was younger. I don't know if I am smarter than he is, however. I suppose being 3 times his age woul dbe make more wise, but he may be a super genius dude for all I know. I'll take a pass on it. I would wrestle a girl though. I played baseball against women and fought them on the Judo mat. I won some and lost some. Over time, I note, the girls couldn't keep up with sizable foes. When we were evenly matched, it was always a good fight. Have I answered all of your questions?

      February 23, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
    • Charles


      What makes YOUR belief's right?

      February 23, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
    • Buggaboo

      Yea Luke what makes you the moral authority I completely disagree with you... so I guess by your reasoning that makes you wrong.

      February 23, 2011 at 7:11 pm |
    • Northview

      Luke what makes you believe this young man thinks girls are lessor beings or weaker?

      February 23, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
    • Mark9988

      Luke is just a bunch of childish nonsense. He doesn't understand honor or integrity, so he makes these sniping little remarks. This kid has you way out-classed. Try to catch up.

      February 24, 2011 at 12:23 am |
    • frontgate

      What a fool bryan

      February 24, 2011 at 12:36 am |
    • Frogist

      @Luke: You are absolutely right. Joel and his father have decided you don't compete with girls as athletes. They are for groping and being princesses and that's it. After all, those were their excuses for Joel not getting on the mat with Cassie. The concept of a female wrestler who is equally matched with his son, seems to be a completely foreign concept to the father. They both do a disservice to women and the sport of wrestling.

      @Charles: What makes Luke's beliefs right and Joel and his father's wrong is the fact that Luke respects women as athletes while Joel and his father do not.

      February 24, 2011 at 10:16 am |
    • JdJr


      What makes them not?

      February 24, 2011 at 6:24 pm |
  19. sadie

    I still commend this boy from standing up for his beliefs even when they aren't popular or appreciated.

    February 23, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
    • audrey

      i agree with sadle.

      February 23, 2011 at 4:32 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      Or grounded in any kind of reality?

      Ted Kaczynski stuck to his beliefs too.

      February 23, 2011 at 6:54 pm |
    • lysander

      Zeke, you're a moron if you're equating being a gentleman with being the Unibomber.

      February 23, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
    • Zeke2112

      "Zeke, you're a moron if you're equating being a gentleman with being the Unibomber."

      He wasn't being a gentleman. He was copping out with scripture. Sadie commends his conviction in his beliefs. My point is that not all beliefs are to be commended. If you can't grasp that, perhaps YOU are the moron.

      February 23, 2011 at 8:38 pm |
    • Cason

      Again, he was the exact *opposite* of a gentleman, by disrespecting her choice to wrestle.

      February 23, 2011 at 10:15 pm |
    • Bob U

      Zeke2112: Well said all the way around.

      February 23, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
    • LEB

      And if his beliefs prohibited him from wrestling a black or a Muslim student?

      February 24, 2011 at 12:06 am |
    • frontgate

      He wants to wrestle her so bad and get a hand full, but if he lost he'd be a laughing stock of his buds.
      Better not to wrestle and make up an excuse with dad at your side.

      February 24, 2011 at 12:34 am |
    • Balls McGhee

      i guess i should fire the black guy that works for me because i am sticking to my racist tendencies PLUS the bible says it is okay to own slaves and how to properly beat them (see the Old Testament).

      February 24, 2011 at 1:04 am |
    • JdJr

      I agree with you sadie.

      @Balls, if you read a little further, you would find "context" (check a dictionary, er, a book of words that helps you find other words). Slaves were indeed held in the Old Testament, held until a Jubilee year and given certain rights (like to marry, buy off service, etc).

      I believe the kid. Maybe he copped out, maybe not. This country was founded on the principle of "innocent until proven guilty." With all the publicity everyone is giving him, I'd say he won, big time.

      February 24, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
  20. Luke

    This is completely moronic. He's okay with inflicting violence on men, but not women. He's ok with getting into compromising positions with men, but not women. He's ok rolling around with boys, but not girls. And what Christian values, exactly, is he referencing? I think he just got scared about potentially losing to a girl. What a pu-ssy.

    February 23, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
    • lysander

      Or being labeled the same if he beat a girl.

      February 23, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
    • Gary Davis

      I wrestled high school and college , thew kid was a fraid she would wip his butt . religous crap my butt . and she probably would beat him . he isn't a sissy he is just afraid. maybe his parents didn't want to see him get beat . maybe his father is the sissy LOLwrestling i good . most sports are good they help teach all of us to join in on team sports and learn to behave sportsmen like behavor . but when a story like this comes along . maybe I am wrong the kid is a wussy and just didn't want to get pined wussy

      February 23, 2011 at 7:10 pm |
    • opshuns

      Luke, calling a 15 year kid a p*ssy doesn't takes a lot of intelligence. I applaud this kid's convictions as well as his parents for raising a pretty decent kid. I wa a HS wrestler. I lost at arm wrestling to the girl shotputter and it did not wound me for life. But, whatg wounds me is people making judgement on a person doing what they feel is right. This is not "The
      World according to Luke". Thank God!

      February 23, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
    • opshuns

      I wouldn;t have wrestled her but maybe you and Gary can start a club.

      February 23, 2011 at 7:22 pm |
    • Northview

      Clearly his honor is beyond your condemnation.

      February 23, 2011 at 9:13 pm |
    • frank farter

      He's just doing her a favor because he respects women, and their need to be in the kitchen rather than having fun or proving that they can be equals to boys. Next season, boys will all vow to concede all matches against girls. All high school girls will immediately be crowned state wrestling champions, and the consolation tournament for boys will begin at the commencement of the regularly-scheduled state tournament... and then the boy wakes up and finds that he can't always get his way.

      February 23, 2011 at 10:58 pm |
    • Da King

      Luke. I recommend you read the book of Luke. Try NKJ version. You would learn a lot.

      February 23, 2011 at 11:14 pm |
    • The Truth

      Luke, grow up. Didn't you learn how to express your feelings in a more mature manner?

      February 23, 2011 at 11:53 pm |
    • steven harnack

      Hey daking, I've read the bible cover to cover and I never once read anything even close to "thou shalt not wrestle with women" anywhere in there. But, then again, maybe since then they've added another chapter called the gospel of wingnuts eh?

      February 24, 2011 at 12:21 am |
    • Balls McGhee

      @Da King – i suggest you read a book about science. you would really learn a lot, like this whole God thing is just a bunch of crap, much like Santa and the Easter Bunny. The bible was written by men. Men. Men who didnt know answers and claimed they did because some "being" told them so. pure nonsense.

      February 24, 2011 at 1:02 am |
    • Eli

      this young man is speaking about the morals the bible teaches christians rather than the literal law.

      February 24, 2011 at 1:11 am |
    • myklds

      @steven harnack..I thought you're 101X the name calling in the last line of your post. Let me tell you why.

      Below is your reply to Da King, you said and I quote,

      "Hey daking, I've read the bible cover to cover and I never once read anything even close to "thou shalt not wrestle with women" anywhere in there. But, then again, maybe since then they've added another chapter called the gospel of wingnuts eh?"

      On the other hand here is a quotation from the author originally taken from the words of the teen's father.

      “Even though there’s no specific Scripture that addresses wrestling with girls, there is the biblical Christian principle of treating women with respect and dignity,” Jamie Northrup said, “and not looking at them as objects to be defeated on the wrestling mat to be, in some cases, groped or slammed.”

      then these key phrases;

      yours:"I never once read anything even close to"

      the author's quotations:“Even though there’s no specific Scripture"

      Above is more than sufficient to take away the doubts of my thoughts of you.

      February 24, 2011 at 2:51 am |
    • JdJr

      @balls, women were held in low esteem to the point that their testimony was not allowed in a court of law, yet they were the first witnesses to the Resurrection, given honor, etc.

      February 24, 2011 at 6:19 pm |
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