March 1st, 2011
12:27 PM ET

West Virginia students protest 10 Commandments' removal

From CNN affiliate WVVA.

The Giles County School Board voted Tuesday to removed framed copies of the Ten Commandments from its schools - for the second time in as many months. Now some students are speaking out against the decision.

Some students have posted the Ten Commandments on their lockers. One group from Narrows and Giles have ordered t-shirts to express their opinions on the issue.

The commandments were first removed in December, 2010 after a complaint.

Read the full story about West Virginia students protesting the Ten Commandments' removal
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  1. sealchan

    Although I can live with a separation of church and state, I have to wonder how not teaching about the world's religions leaves a huge gaping hole in our education. We can study history and philosophy and various cultures...except for their religion! Isn't religion a huge dimension of so many people's lives throughout history? I never studied religions until I went to college at a Holy Cross university and they in addition to two required Christian theology courses had an Introduction to Religion course which introduced Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Hinduism and Buddhism on equal grounds. It was a revelation for me in my spiritual and cultural education.

    March 1, 2011 at 2:46 pm |
    • LEB

      If people want to learn about religion, they should go to church. The impacts of the various dominant religions and their impact on social development is reviewed in American and World history classes, but it is not necessary to teach the values or beliefs of the religion to accomplish this. Matters of faith belong in the church and in the home.

      March 2, 2011 at 3:14 am |
  2. AshleyAsh

    I understand that these kids love god and his teachings and all that good stuff (i'm not being sarcastic), but as someone said before If others were allowed to put up Islamic, Buddhist, or Satanic beliefs, how would they feel? Would they beg for them to be taken down or would they support the religious tolerance??

    March 1, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
  3. JCO64

    Tell you what – I'll allow publicly funded displays of the 10 Commandments if, right next to them, we display the PENALTIES God commanded for breaking them. For most of the commandments that penalty is simple – DEATH.

    Do you worship another God? One named Allah or Krishna or Zeus? Please line up over here, we have to kill you. God commands it.

    Do you work on the Sabbath? So you're a paramedic, so what? We have to kill you. You're breaking God's Law.

    Did you ever take the Lord's name in vain after hitting your thumb with a hammer? How about saying something disrespectful to either one of your parents? Ever tell a lie, EVER? No, you haven't just sinned, you disobeyed the commandments of God Almighty Himself and must now die. The Bible says so.

    March 1, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
  4. Betty D.

    I think it's a shame that people are not stron enough in their own belief (what ever they are) that they should feel so threatened. by someone else. Could it be that maybe they need to work on their own belief"?? What someone else believes does not make me feel threatened in any way. I try to stay strong in mine. It comes down to respect for others....

    March 1, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
  5. Mike T

    I wonder what Christians would say to having Satanism postings? Would they fight for their rights? Keep God in our hearts and religion out of public schools. All religions.

    March 1, 2011 at 1:57 pm |
  6. Mike T

    Why do Christians fight to have the, Ten Commandments" in a public places when we were given only two. LOVE THY GOD-LOVE THY NEIGHBOR AS THY SELF? Is it possible Jesus new something we don't?

    March 1, 2011 at 1:46 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      In the OT God gave Moses the ten. If you read them they only deal with 2 issues
      1. How to treat God (4 commandments)
      2. How to treat man (6 commandments))

      In the NT Jesus just condensed the 10 down to 2:
      1. How to treat God (love the Lord your God...)
      2. How to treat man (Love your neighbor as yourself)

      No change in the message!

      March 1, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      I prefer George Carlin's two commandments:

      1) Always be honest and faithful, especially to the provider of one's noo-kie.
      2) Try really really hard not to kill anyone...unless they pray to a different invisible man than you do.

      March 1, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
  7. hilltop

    I applaud these students for speaking up for their rights. The removal of these signs is evidence of the poor quality of the education we are propagating in our schools. It engenders the toleration of subpar scholarship. This school board needs to focus their attention on cultivating an atmosphere of learning where ideas, regardless of origin are expressed, defended, and criticized. Why are they bent on limiting learning?

    March 1, 2011 at 1:39 pm |
    • Q

      "The removal of these signs is evidence of the poor quality of the education we are propagating in our schools." You have it backwards. That these unconst-itutional displays were allowed in the first place is the evidence supporting your as-sertion. The rest of your post is a transparent "teach the controversy" employed by those on the losing side of the magic vs reason debates...

      March 1, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
    • hilltop

      What are you afraid of? Let the ideas speak for themselves. If they are worthy of defense, then defend them. If not, be ready to be criticized. But to completely eradicate them stinks of thought policing.

      March 1, 2011 at 2:00 pm |
    • Nonimus

      "Let the ideas speak for themselves. If they are worthy of defense, then defend them. If not, be ready to be criticized. But to completely eradicate them stinks of thought policing."
      I'm glad you feel this way. The place for real scientific debate is in the scientific communities, i.e. labs, research facilities, universities, and peer-reviewed journals, not the high school Biology class where no one is really qualified to debates the full intricacies of science.
      So why isn't Intelligent Design debated in the Journals? Because the ID proponents don't have any science to debate with.

      March 1, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
    • Q

      @hilltop – In addition to the points of Nonimus, the ideas of magic and theocracy have been repeatedly weighed and measured and have invariably been found wanting. It is not "thought policing" to simply point this out and to recognize these failures, having been recognized for thousands of years, underpinned the Establishment Clause disallowing State promotion of a particular religious view, i.e displays of sectarian religious mythology in public schools.

      March 1, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
    • hilltop

      My reference is to the free flow of ideas not ID. Though it should be given an equal platform as any other theory if you want honest scholarship.

      The ten commandments needs to be judged and criticized alongside every other system of belief including atheism. According to Aristotle, everyone arrives to their system of belief based on three factors, logos (intellect), pathos (emotion), and ethos (social). Atheists are just as guilty of emotionlism as the religious. So be careful not to overstate your innocence.

      March 1, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
    • Frogist

      @hilltop: You are not limiting learning by ensuring schools are neutral to religion. No one is saying don't believe in the commandments. Just don't use this space to advertise them. The only way your assertion is valid is if we leave the 10 commandments up and add every other code, treatise, assertion, and limerick that has an inkling of truth. That would make those walls very crowded. The task would be impossible. And I doubt that solution would be palatable to the Christian students making a fuss at this school anyway.

      March 1, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
    • Q

      @hilltop – I could care less what you or anyone else chooses to believe. This is the beauty of the Free Exercise Clause. What I do care about is when a majority religious view is promoted by a State inst-itution in direct conflict with the Establishment Clause and SCOTUS precedent. Reference Aristotle all you want, I'll stick with Madison and Jefferson...

      March 1, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
    • Nonimus

      "My reference is to the free flow of ideas not ID."
      Point taken. I was keying off Q's reference to "teach the controversy," incorrectly it would seem.

      "Though it should be given an equal platform as any other theory if you want honest scholarship." Honest scholarship would be to admit that ID is not a scientific theory by any stretch of the imagination.

      If the Bible and/or religion are treated as literature or social studies, discussed along side other religions, and not presented as the Truth then I agree that they are valid study areas in public schools.
      Public schools are free to offer classes on the Bible and religion today, they just can't endorse a particular one or expect any observances by any students.

      March 1, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
    • hilltop

      Yes, that would make for an unacceptable use of space. However, it behooves the school board to provide a safe place where all ideas can be discussed, defended, and criticized freely and not simply throw them out without contextualizing the process.

      Let the ideas defend themselves. We cannot have an honest discussion if we don't foster an atmosphere where all sides can freely be expressed and tested.

      I concur. Let the literature be presented as such. It should be equally presented and tested. The goal is to cultivate an atmosphere of learning that produces well rounded individuals. Reasonable, Passionate, and Sound.

      March 1, 2011 at 5:20 pm |
    • David Johnson


      Nonimus said: "The place for real scientific debate is in the scientific communities, i.e. labs, research facilities, universities, and peer-reviewed journals, not the high school Biology class where no one is really qualified to debates the full intricacies of science."

      Read this again, Hilltop. It is the absolute truth.

      Cheers to you Nonimus!

      March 1, 2011 at 6:00 pm |
    • Q

      @hilltop – You keep referring to a free exchange of ideas, but this is not the issue in a state public school endorsing a sectarian religious view. The students are free to express their religious convictions (free exercise), the school is not free to promote a specific religious view (establishment).

      @Non – Apologies for the confusion. hilltop seems to be invoking the "idea fairness doctrine" without acknowledging that many ideas have already lost in the "marketplace of ideas", ID/creationism being the obvious example.

      March 1, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
    • HotAirAce

      @All The Believers

      Do you really want the 10 Commandments, or any other part of your tribal myths, posted in schools *and* for there to a debate about them? I don't think you do. I think you want as many symbols in public as possible and for them to be taken as fact. If your symbols are openly displayed and discussed, teachers are going to have to say that they are beliefs, that there is no evidence for them, that there are many such beliefs and no-one knows which one is really correct – there is no way that they will be presented as fact, any doubt will undermine your beliefs. It wouldn't be long before believers would be whinning about teachers teaching the truth and causing problems for believers and their cults' beliefs. While I think all things religious (even the mention of god in O'Canada which I routinely respond to with "There are no gods" when it is sung) should be banned from all public places, unless as part of a comparitive mythology course, I think it would be highly entertaining to allow believers to post their propaganda and have a debate about it.

      March 1, 2011 at 8:21 pm |
    • hilltop

      The debate regarding ID remains open ended. This is also true of the theory of evolution. They both hypothesize the origin of life. Neither has an airtight case. We should not pretend that either is fact because the evidencefor either are inconclusive. Claiming any viewpoint to be absolute truth is dishonest at best.

      Non was referencing something Q alluded to. I didn't realize you believed in absolute truth? What other absolutes do you adhere to?

      You may not realize it, but according to Aristotle your beliefs are influenced by the same things that influence christians, namely intellect, emotion and society. You are not as intellectually rooted as you may wish. A portion of your convictions can also be labeled "faith based". You are as much of a seeker as anyone else. Welcome to the journey!

      March 1, 2011 at 8:55 pm |
    • Q

      @hilltop – Neither the Theory of Evolution nor ID address the origin of life. Evolution addresses the change in biological form following the appearance of a universal common ancestor (origin of life research is called abiogenesis). ID is a non-scientific argument from incredulity as-serting some biological structures cannot have arisen via evolution. Evolution the process (i.e. a change in a population's genetic const-itution over time) is a fact. Evolution the scientific theory uses the fact of evolution in combination with every other relevant scientific discipline to explain observable extinct and extant biodiversity. This debate has been presented both to the scientific community/literature and repeatedly in the courts (i.e. the "marketplace of ideas") where in both forums, ID/creationism has failed to provide any substantive support. By any reasonable standard, ID/creationism has lost and by every scientific standard, evolution has and continues to win.

      March 1, 2011 at 9:58 pm |
    • HotAirAce


      I understand that life is a journey and that I am influenced by many factors. But getting to my point above, at home and in a house of religion, a believer's beliefs are not likely to be seriously challenged. If religious symbols and propaganda are put up in public schools *and* their validity is questioned, the genie is out of the bottle. Any serious discussion of religion is likely to cause more conversation about its validity than believer parents or religions will want. They will quickly ask for their symbols and propaganda to be removed and discussion of religion curtailed. Yes, these are only my opinions, hence my willingness to give it a try.

      March 1, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
    • Q

      @HAA – I whole-heartedly concur with what I understand to be your premise, i.e. an examination of religious belief in a neutral, objective setting rarely bodes well for the religious belief. I further agree that comparative religions/mythology/philosophy classes are an excellent opportunity for this. Suffice it to say that here in the U.S., I support a wall of separation between church and state to protect both the right of an individual's free exercise (within secular legal limits) and the prohibition against the state promoting any religious view.

      Science education represents a unique front in this "culture war" in that religions invariably make claims about the natural world and these claims can be objectively analyzed in the context of available physical evidence. While the state has no business in supporting or denying a supernatural claim, the religious faithful are not ent-itled to state protection from physical evidence presented in a public school science class which contradicts their preferred mythology. At issue with ID/creationism is that it provides no positive supporting evidence, only negative arguments against evolution. To be clear, I'm certainly not opposed to a student questioning evolution, I'm opposed to a teacher's presentation of these well-refuted religious faith-based arguments as if they have equal merit to the mainstream scientific consensus.

      March 2, 2011 at 12:27 am |
    • Duh

      Atheism has no "system" and is merely the LACK of a belief. It cannot be a "system of belief" for those two reasons. Duh.

      March 2, 2011 at 12:36 am |
    • HotAirAce


      We are in agreement!

      March 2, 2011 at 12:58 am |
    • LEB

      @hilltop - Atheism isn't a belief system. If schools were to teach about atheism, the closest they could come would be to teach a rigorous course in logic, instructing students on attempting to free themselves from bias and learning to rationally consider statements, claims, and beliefs with a critical eye.

      Of course, if schools did that, they'd probably wind up with more atheists.

      March 2, 2011 at 3:18 am |
  8. Magic


    "Can't wait to see your face on Judgement Day."


    March 1, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
  9. CW

    Way to go Christian students!!!!,

    That is what is wrong with our society today..."take God out of everything". This is what we need more of...."People who stand up for their Christian Beliefs"....

    @ David Johnson,

    You see our kids will STILL carry on the Christian Bible and its teachings. Don't worry you'll know soon enough if you've been wrong about your beliefs....Can't wait to see your face on Judgement Day.

    March 1, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
    • David Johnson


      You Evangelicals are like Linus in the pumpkin patch, waiting on the Great Pumpkin.

      Jesus predicted He would return in the 1st Century. He didn't. He was busy being dead.

      Every generation believed their generation would be the last. They all believed they could see the signs or had calculated the date of the return. A good example is a fellow named William Miller. Google The Great Disappointment.

      Its been 2000+ years, CW. Give it up. Come in from the pumpkin patch before you catch cold. All you're gonna get is a stiff neck from looking up.


      March 1, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • Evolved DNA

      CW.. sounds like you enjoy being a christian for the he-ll you can hand out. being inside a death cult has to be draining.. I prefer to live and assist my fellow humans in life rather than either condemn them or commend them in an afterlife.

      March 1, 2011 at 3:12 pm |
    • rcs

      Religion is nothing more than an idea to control a huge population of people. Every time I ask questions that I know they can't answer like " Where did Cain's wife come from if they were only 4 people on the planet" or If it was only adam and eve where did the rest of us come from with out incest somewhere along the line? or Why would it take God a month to make up the commandementswhen supposedly it only took 6 days to make everything> I get the same response " You're going to hell"

      March 1, 2011 at 4:18 pm |
  10. David Johnson


    Where are the adults in this drama? This should not be an issue. This is a public school.

    It irritates me, that the 1st Amendment isn't being displayed. Instead, the Adults frame the 10 Commandments. *sigh*

    The religious trinkets and texts should be taken to the holy dumpster. The children should study, or start their career at McDonalds.


    March 1, 2011 at 1:24 pm |
    • Frogist

      @DJ: Excellent idea: Post a copy of the const!tution instead.

      March 1, 2011 at 1:29 pm |
    • Nonimus

      Hear! Hear!

      And the Bill of Rights!

      March 1, 2011 at 1:31 pm |
    • Q

      @DJ – Completely agree, however, I suspect we both know the "adults" are the ones helping to organize their children's protests and provided the framed commandments to begin with. Furthermore, I suspect the "adults" spurred on by their local ministers and clergy are inclined to believe a secular doc-ument like the Const-itution is inherently anti-Christian in the "you're either with us or against us" mentality pervading the religiously-afflicted.

      Wonderful idea of subst-ituting a framed Const-itution, Bill of Rights, Declaration of Independence, etc...

      March 1, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
  11. Nonimus

    Just to be clear the Ten Commandments display being removed are posted on the school walls, not the ones students are posting themselves.
    The ACLU of *Virginia* (not W. Virginia) has clarified this is the following statement: http://www.wvva.com/Global/story.asp?S=14142829

    March 1, 2011 at 1:23 pm |
  12. Frogist

    It's a sad day in the world when "atheist" is a dirty word. But the reaction to it, means that religious tolerance and acceptance of and exposure to different philosophies obviously need to be taught here.
    I like that the kids are exercising their right to free speech though. That makes me very proud. I do hope that someone sits these kids down though and explains the situation to them and the illegality of having the ten commandments in their school.

    March 1, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  13. Peter Silversmith

    The outside of school supplied lockers are NOT personal space – it is community space like any other part of a corridor wall. The INSIDE of the locker could be adorned with whatever suits the individual.

    March 1, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  14. Dreama Pritt

    When did West Virginia get a Giles County?

    March 1, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
  15. Robert

    I always thought it was funny how Sunday christians believe in the 4th commandment. That commandment clearly says to honor the Sabbath, which is on Saturday. It always was, since before Adam & Eve. Even Jesus kept the Sabbath. Think about it. He died on the cross on Friday afternoon, rested on Saturday (the Sabbath), and was raised on the first day of the week (Sunday). He observed the Sabbath, even in death!

    March 1, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      Didn't he rise after three days? Which would mean he came back on a Monday...to find all the apostles taking a day off because the boss wasn't around.

      Peter: "Dude, are you going in today?"
      Thomas: "Nah, boss isn't here. What's the point? I doubt he'll notice."

      March 1, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • CW

      @ SeanNJ,

      You think your funny....YOUR NOT!!!!

      Here is how your things will go on your day of reckoning

      God: Why did you turn your back on the Bible and Me?
      SeanNJ: Don't know....didn't have the PROOF come and h-'it me up-'side the head.
      God: I gave you multiple chances to change...why didn't you accept my Son Jesus and the forgiveness he gave to all through his sacr-'rifice?
      SeanNJ: Oh...please Lord...forgive me for blasheming your word....PLEASE...DON'T SEND ME TO THE FIRE!!!!

      March 1, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
    • Q

      @SeanNJ – You know CW typed that all (slowly and sensuously) with just one hand don't you?

      March 1, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      @CW: More like this maybe...

      God: Why did you turn your back on the Bible and Me?
      SeanNJ: You know that, don't you?
      God: I gave you multiple chances to change...why didn't you accept my Son Jesus and the forgiveness he gave to all through his sacr-'rifice?
      SeanNJ: You should know that too, right?
      SeanNJ: Wait, wait, can I ask one question?
      God: Shoot.
      SeanNJ: Is that CW dude in there with you?
      God: Yes, he is in fact.
      SeanNJ: Cool. At least I won't have to hang around with him for the rest of eternity. He's such a bore.

      March 1, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      @Q: Thanks for the mental picture. Ruined my afternoon. 🙁

      March 1, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
    • Q

      @SeanNJ – Sorry bout that. For a less disturbing image, picture a baby seal being clubbed to death... 🙂

      March 1, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
    • David Johnson


      You asked: "Didn't he rise after three days? "

      1 Corinthian 15:14-17 – Paul says Christianity lives or dies on the Resurrection.

      1 Corinthians 15:4 "4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures"

      Matthew 12:40 – Jesus said, that he would be buried three days and three nights as Jonah was in the whale three days and three nights.

      Friday afternoon to early Sunday morning is only 2 days at the most. Or, if you count Friday and Sunday as entire days, then you could get 3 days and 2 nights. This is a gimme though. The Mary's went to the grave at sunrise and it was empty.

      Obviously, the fundies spin this like a pinwheel. I have seen explanations like: Jesus was actually crucified on Wednesday or maybe Thursday; The prophesy actually means 12 hour days, and not 24 hour days; The partial days are counted as full days. This one is true, but still doesn't add up.

      At any rate, the crucifixion day and number of days and nights Jesus spent in the grave, is disputed.

      It looks very much like, that Jesus was not in the grave for 3 days and 3 nights. The prophecy was not fulfilled.


      March 1, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
    • Frogist

      @Q: Does that make it like a snuff film? XP
      BTW CW, I think SeanNJ is dammed funny!

      March 1, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
    • CW

      @ SeanNJ,

      Sean...you see what I was trying to show you is that it doesn't have to be that way. Just repent and accept that Jesus died for all of us...you included. Accept by Faith that God wishes for a relationship with you by you reading his word and living your life according to his will. You don't have to spend eternity in the fire....you can spend it in Heaven but you have to take the Leap of Faith and stand on the word of God. Its your choice....Life enternal in Heaven....or life in the enternal flame.

      As for your screen play....No God gives us all a CHOICE....he keeps at us b/c each time he will increase and change the ways he uses to try to get us...BUT ITS ULTIMATELY UP TO US TO FOLLOW HIM. Make the right choice....Choose God over Man's finite errored wisdom.

      March 1, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      @Frogist: Thank you. 🙂

      @CW: Thanks, but no thanks. Your god is, at best, an absentee landlord; at worst, inherently evil; and, in all likelihood, non-existent. I'll stick with the finite errored wisdom thing. Good day.

      March 1, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
  16. Doc Vestibule

    Would this be a news story if those kids were told to remove a copy of the 9 Satanic Principles, 10 Disciplines of Hinduism or the 5 Laws of Darwinian Evolution?

    March 1, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
  17. Q

    Poor super-majority Christians, unsatisfied with their personal free exercise liberties, insist public buildings reflect their preferred, exclusive sectarian mythology. Bless these poor martyrs for defending their conviction that everyone should respect and accept their magical beliefs. I guess they don't teach any classes on the Const-itution in this county.

    March 1, 2011 at 1:04 pm |
  18. David Johnson

    Religious text and trinkets have no place in public schools.

    If the Bible Belt Children of the Corn, feel the need to display the commandments, they should attend a private school.

    If there are children of other faiths, there could be "problems".

    These children will be competing against the rest of the world. Readin', and Writin' and 'rithmetic and science! That's the ticket to true salvation!


    March 1, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @David Johnson
      I doubt they're worried about competing with the rest of the world.
      The Rapture is coming any day now and these kids will be transported bodily to heaven. Let the heathens have their science, data and facts. All anyone really needs to know is that a jewish carpenter dead for 2000 years will telekinetically transport those who worship Him to an alternate dimension of pure bliss. Any day now...

      March 1, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • Steve the real one

      WRONG! Taxpaying parents have the right to sent their children to public schools and that does not mean these kids have to leave their faith at home!

      March 1, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      Steve, who are you even arguing with. Do you invent your own arguments and then respond to them?

      The kids are allowed to have their own faith. Unquestionably. They're not free to put posters up on school property however, regardless of their faith, interests or political message.

      I have a question for you though. If there were Islamic kids puting up Quran bible verses on public school grounds, would your opinion of the subject change?

      March 1, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
    • LEB

      @Steve the real one - No one is asking them to leave their faith at home. It's a matter of the schools not favoring any one religion over another. How would Christian students feel if images of Ganesha were all over the place, with alters covered in flowers and incense? Don't you think that would be just a little distracting?

      March 2, 2011 at 3:11 am |
  19. Elizabeth

    There is NO Giles County in WEST VIRGINIA. This county is in the state of Virginia.

    I commend these students for standing up for their beliefs.

    March 1, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
    • Evolved DNA

      Elisabeth.. i agree they have rights to post what they want,, however i wonder what would happen if I put up a sign with in the school that said" I believe in Gay Marriage"...for an example..or there is a "meeting of the atheist society" ..

      March 1, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
    • Nonimus

      I agree.
      I also agree with the Boards decision to take the framed copy down.

      The students are exercising their rights and the Board is rightfully saying, 'no, we can't endorse one religion over another.'
      The system works, at least right now.

      March 1, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
    • Frogist

      @Evolved DNA: I doubt any such activity would be tolerated. An "I am pro-choice" t-shirt would mean being reported to the principal and have to be removed or turned inside out. And as Doc said, may not ever have made the news. Let's hope the faculty take measures to teach the children why religious matter such as the commandments cannot be displayed.

      March 1, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
    • LEB

      Their beliefs belong in church, not in a state-funded school where not everyone shares their religion. Why can't Christians have some respect for others and keep their beliefs a private matter?

      March 2, 2011 at 3:09 am |
  20. cgw

    freedom of speech is fine and while I am not religious I can understand that these kids have a right to their beliefs...my question relates to 'lockers.' Isn't the inside of a child's locker consider private property but the outside considered school property?

    March 1, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
    • Q

      Many state supreme courts have found students do not have an expectation of privacy within their school lockers, e.g. canine-based drug searches...

      March 1, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
    • David Johnson

      Neither lockers furnished by the school, or the lockers furnished by companies for their employees, are considered private property. Lockers can be opened at any time to search for contraband or stolen property.


      March 1, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
    • Nonimus

      But it's also not public display, or school sponsored content, so I would think the student could put up ten commandments inside their lockers, just like I would suspect it's okay for them to store Bible there as well.

      March 1, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • Ykcyc

      It is not so much about the freedom of speech. It is more about the freedom from thought. Beliefs (thought) of any kind will continue to be the source of suffering for human kind, as long as people feel to defend their thoughts (beliefs) whenever they feel threatened by a different view, idea, opinion. When will people realize that no thought can contain the absolute truth. At best they can point to it, but the only ones to benefit from it, will be the ones with an open mind.

      March 1, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
    • Blaggo

      I agree. BTW, thank you for posting something coherent for once. Good luck.

      March 2, 2011 at 12:28 am |
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