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No. 3 BYU loses after dismissing player for honor code violation
Brigham Young University center Brandon Davies has been suspended for the rest of the season.
March 3rd, 2011
04:59 PM ET

No. 3 BYU loses after dismissing player for honor code violation

Sticking to principles appears to carry a steep cost for the nation's third-ranked college basketball team.

A day after Brigham Young University dismissed center Brandon Davies from the team for violating the school's strict honor code, the No. 3-ranked Cougars were throttled Wednesday by unranked New Mexico.

"The honor code really reflects who we are as a university. It defines us and it does make us different," BYU spokeswoman Carrie Jenkins told CNN affiliate KSTU-TV.

Davies, a 6-9 sophomore from Provo, was the team's top rebounder and third-leading scorer. He received the Cougars' Academic Excellence award last season, according to an online profile.

BYU had been gunning for a high seed in the upcoming NCAA Tournament, but the team's fortunes took a tumble with Wednesday night's 82-64 loss to New Mexico.

University officials said Davies admitted violating the honor code at BYU, which is owned and operated by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, also known as the Mormon Church.

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  1. Dave Kneram

    Hallelujah, there is a god

    March 4, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
  2. Risueno

    Davies knew what the "Honor Code" was and what the consequences for not following it where. I'm sure there were other schools that don't have something like the "Honor Code" or allowed players to has pre-marital that he could have gone to if that was his reason for going to school. The only reason this is becoming a big thing is that he's a star. I'm sure there others who violated the "Honor Code" and have suffered the same consequences that don't make the National News. I have not heard one team mate say that this was wrong.

    March 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
  3. Jeff

    It's disappointing to see so many people call BYU "prudish," "boring," and "the most backward major university in the country" for simply enforcing the standards they hold for themselves and their students. As a BYU alum, it's not hard to live the honor code, the education is great (it got me into medical school), and there are a lot of cool extracurricular things to spend your extra time with.

    This world will be much better when people ease up on each other for trying to live their life the best they know how. We all go about it differently, but for the most part we're all trying to live in a way that brings us happiness, and for those at BYU, they've found a way to be happy that suits them.

    March 4, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
  4. David Johnson

    This is silly. BYU lost after dismissing Davies. A judgement from god, if I ever saw one!

    So, Davies had $ex with his girlfriend. When I was single, I did this as often as possible. It is a guy thing. LOL

    Did not even God, "get Him some"? I rest my case!

    Cheers!

    March 4, 2011 at 8:50 am |
  5. Reality

    And we can only hope she did not forget to take her daily Pill.

    And his next stop, the Univerity of Memphis?

    March 4, 2011 at 7:12 am |
  6. Reality

    We can only hope he used a condom.

    March 3, 2011 at 11:19 pm |
    • Nathan

      He was probably caught because his girl felt guilty and confessed to her Bishop. Her Bishop then called him in and he honestly admitted it was true. Now he is off the team and BYU is losing. She must be the villain of the school right now!

      March 4, 2011 at 1:49 pm |
  7. Justina

    Mormons should read the whole Bible, not just their favorite verses.

    March 3, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    • evolvedDNA

      Justina dont tell me you are trying to apply rational thought to something, what makes their belief wrong and yours correct? what evidence convinces you of that fact? You are just as delusional as the mormons and Muslims..I hope you are healed soon.

      March 3, 2011 at 11:06 pm |
    • Justina

      Hi, EvolvedDNA. Can't I have your name? Rational reading of the whole text of the Holy Bible determines who is correct. Mormons have KJV Bible. All they need is reading it honestly from cover to cover. Evo-, you shouldn't dismiss things you never read or comprehended. It's unscholary and so anti-scientific, you know. Can't you tell me your name as a friend?

      March 3, 2011 at 11:43 pm |
    • Shrdlu

      Justina, you are creepy as hell. You have no need of anyone's name. You intend harm. You are a sick person. See a doctor.

      March 4, 2011 at 1:31 am |
    • David Johnson

      @Justina

      You said: "Rational reading of the whole text of the Holy Bible determines who is correct. Mormons have KJV Bible. All they need is reading it honestly from cover to cover."

      Oh my Justina! Reading the bible will not determine who is correct. Reading the bible has resulted in ~ 38,000 different denominations of Christianity. Each, read the bible honestly, from cover to cover. Each can show you scripture and explain to you, why theirs is the correct interpretation. Even the hideous Westboro Baptist Church can defend their beliefs, handily.

      All of the denominations could not be correctly interpreting the bible. Many are contradictory.
      Many of these denominations believe only their members will be saved.

      If the Christian god exists, and he is all knowing and all powerful and all good, why didn't He provide a bible that could not be misinterpreted? That everyone's understanding of His wants would be the same?

      ambiguity – : a word or expression that can be understood in two or more possible ways : an ambiguous word or expression

      1. If god exists, He would want everyone to know His wants, without ambiguity.
      People attempt to discover god's wants by reading the bible.

      2. The bible god provided, is ambiguous.
      This fact is evidenced by there being ~38,000 different denominations of Christianity.

      3. Therefore, the Christian god does not exist.

      Telling people to read their bible is demonstrably bad advice.

      Cheers!

      March 4, 2011 at 8:36 am |
    • Justina

      Shrdlu, I'm friend with EvolvedDNA, at least we were. None of your business. It's primitive of you to insult like that without making points. Make some rational points, atheists.
      David, those 38,000 Christian denominations agree on major and minor doctrines with a few exceptions such as Mormons. Different denominations are teams. Biblical teaching is plain and clear. What you claim is untrue.

      March 4, 2011 at 2:20 pm |
    • The Truth

      ****@Justina....It's primitive of you to insult like that without making points. Make some rational points, atheists."

      Rational point: What is truly "primitive" is to believe in a 2K year old book where there are 900 year old men, talking snakes, people living in whales, etc.

      Rational point #2: There has always been a god. This will never change. Here they are for you:

      45,000 BC – Worship took place in ritualistic burial sites in Africa, Europe and Asia.

      15,000 BC – Animal gods were worshipped.

      6,000 BC – The Tigris/Euphrates was the home to "civilization" where they worshipped the sun god Anu and the mother god Inanna along with a plethora of other gods.

      4,004 BC – Bishop Ussher declared this the date that your God created the Earth. LMAO

      2,800 BC – The Pharaoh is both King and God simultaneously.

      2,000 BC – The birth of Judaism begins.

      1,750 BC – Stonehenge is built possibly as temple to worship the Sun God.

      1,500 BC – The Hindus write the Rig Vega WAY before your Bible.

      1,385 BC – The Egyptians go to monotheism with Aton, the Sun God.

      1,100 BC – Charlton Heston, I mean Moses, received the Ten Commandments.

      950 BC – Brahminism begins in India teaching about the concept of a soul.

      900 BC – The huge list of Greek gods are created.

      750 BC – The Romans go with their set of gods.

      650 BC – Zoroastrianism is born (possibly as early as 1,500 BC)

      600 BC – Jews write the Old Testament

      550 BC – Jainism is born

      525 BC – Taoism is born

      500 BC – Confucianism is born

      500 BC – Buddhism is born

      Around 0 (give or take 10 years), Jesus is FINALLY born.

      470 AD – Mayans elevate Xpiyacoc and Xmucane as creators of the universe (WHAT? BUT JESUS WAS ALREADY BORN!!! HOW COULD THEY DO THIS? Maybe because people here didn't hear about Jesus until 1,450+ years after he died.)

      600 AD – Muhammad founds Islam and Allah is the supreme god

      1200 AD – Zen is born

      1230 AD – The Catholic Church goes on their murder spree with the Inquisition

      1500 AD – Martin Luther splits the Church

      1550 AD – Copernicus says the Earth revolves around the sun. The Church believed God created Earth as the center of the Universe. (DO YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE THEY WERE COMPLETELY UNEDUCATED MEN READING A BOOK CREATED BY EVEN LESS EDUCATED MEN!!!! Can you say P-R-I-M-I-T-I-V-E?)

      1600 AD – The Catholic Church has Bruno BURNED AT THE STAKE for suggesting that stars could be suns. LMAO... at least he got a taste of the heat of the sun.

      1776 – US is born

      1850 – Darwin does his thing

      1900 – Einstein's theory of relativity

      1980's – Jedi Religion is born.

      Modern Day – Man has now become "God" with the ability to clone and growing organs in petri dishes, etc.

      So yes, there is always a god... just a different one. You God didn't care about anyone on the planet until 2,000 BC and didn't care about anyone in North nor South America until around 1,500.

      Peace!

      March 4, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
  8. The Truth

    The poor kid just got confused and thought he was helping the basketball team with his rebounding when his girlfriend offered to teach him how to do a "rim job."

    As for the Mormons, this explains it all (Joseph Smith starts at the 4 minute mark and is hilarious):

    southparkstudios.com/full-episodes/s07e12-all-about-the-mormons

    Cheers!

    March 3, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
    • The Truth

      While not quite as entertaining as the South Park episode, this compares Christianity, Islam and the Mormons:

      [youtube=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVuw1wEuaAQ&w=640&h=360]

      March 3, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • The Truth

      Oops.... you need the full link to get directly to the South Park episode. So add in the:

      h**p : / / w*w.

      in front of the link above:

      March 3, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
  9. James

    Are you surprised by anything this university or the LDS church does? The very man the school is named after said the following: "You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.......Brigham Young – Journal of Discourses volume 7. How in the world anybody can go to this school is amazing to me. I feel for the poor kid.

    March 3, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    • emma leigh

      Black is primarily associated with the negative aspects of human experience – including death, disease, famine, and sorrow – all of which are the results of sin. The exception is the implication of health when describing hair.

      Direct Meaning:
      sin – Job 6:15-16
      disease – Job 30:30
      famine – Lamentations 4:8; 5:10, Revelation 6:5-6
      death – Jude 1:12-13
      sorrow – Jeremiah 8:21 (KJV)

      March 3, 2011 at 11:36 pm |
  10. Jack

    For being the dullest university full of wacked people, it's odd that BYU is the most popular by acceptance rate – beating Harvard. Unless the people commenting are complete ignoramuses. I suppose that's always possible.

    P.S. BYU has the hottest chicks. If fun means getting inebriated so you can put up with a bunch of uglies, I'll take soberly enjoying the eye-candy any day.

    March 3, 2011 at 9:24 pm |
    • Nathan

      Hot, untouchable chicks

      March 4, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
  11. Kevin

    Karma baby! Though that guy really should have known what he was getting into at BYU. It is the most backward major university in the country.

    March 3, 2011 at 8:53 pm |
  12. Michael

    and all he did was show his love. Again, these people just can't get it. There is NOT one way to show love. Stop punishing the lovers of the world.

    March 3, 2011 at 8:47 pm |
  13. Thomas

    Did he lose his dictionary? Honor means to have "a keen sense of ethical conduct." This school has made the policy and he said he would follow it; he didn't. So what follows is what is proscribed for misbehavior. Have you forgotten this is a very religious school. Mercy cannot rob justice. He has to pay the price for his actions. Plain and simple. I pray he will repent of his behavior and come to terms with who he is and what he really wants out of life. College is not just about playing sports. You learn valuable life lessons which in the end are far more important than 2 pts. If he didn't want to accept the terms of the code, why sign or play there. He made a mistake. Does that mean he should be doomed to Hell. No. He just needs to now accept his justice for the code that was already in place and that was violated.

    March 3, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
  14. Mark Twain

    All men have heard of the Mormon Bible, but few, except the elect have seen it or at least taken the trouble to read it. I brought away a copy from Salt Lake. The book is a curiosity to me. It is such a pretentious affair and yet so slow, so sleepy, such an insipid mess of inspiration. It is chloroform in print.

    If Joseph Smith composed this book, the act was a miracle. Keeping awake while he did it, was at any rate. If he, according to tradtion, merely translated it from certain ancient and myteriously engraved plates of copper, which he declares he found under a stone, in an out of the way locality, the work of translating it was equally a miracle for the same reason.

    * * *

    I left Great Salt Lake a good deal confused as to what state of things existed there and sometimes even questioning in my own mind whether a state of things existed there at all or not.

    March 3, 2011 at 8:23 pm |
    • Thomas

      You can't understand the things of God, unless you have the Spirit of God in you. You don't. So, I suggest you read the scriptures, repent of your sins, and pray to God. Otherwise you will be lost as you are now.

      March 3, 2011 at 8:34 pm |
    • evolvedDNA

      Thomas.. tell us please the ways of god and what exactly the spirit is. It sounds like the usual mumbo jummbo that sounds important but is meaningless... and you managed to get some sin in there, and a repent... great stuff.. if god is sending his coded messages via the religious he has one hell of a sense of humor..

      March 3, 2011 at 10:49 pm |
    • Mark Twain

      Thomas, you dimwit, that was from the real Mark Twain. He can't read or repent – he's dead.

      March 4, 2011 at 12:50 am |
    • The Truth

      @Samuel Clemens: "Thomas, you dimwit, that was from the real Mark Twain. He can't read or repent – he's dead."

      LMAO

      March 4, 2011 at 1:14 am |
    • paige

      Interesting comment mark twain made. I recently finished reading it myself. Its true though, Joseph Smith, with such little education could not have written it himself, unless by some miracle. And it also would be a miracle if he translated it the way he said he did.

      March 4, 2011 at 5:07 pm |
  15. johnpaul

    The mormons are whacked!!

    March 3, 2011 at 8:22 pm |
    • Risueno

      Let't start with name calling. He knew what he signed, when ask to sign "The Honor Code". And those who don't honor it, should receive consciecsecences. Just because he's star there should not me a second rule.

      March 4, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
  16. buddah

    He must have forgotten to put on his magic underwear? I wonder if he knows that the Mormons used to say black people will be slaves in the afterlife and that they have no problems with Africans though they wear the mark of Cain. Well I guess god changes with the times even though I thought he was perfect and get things right the first time. I'm going out now to put some rocks under my hat and write down what the voices in my head tell me.

    March 3, 2011 at 8:10 pm |
  17. HeavenSent

    Oh, the continuation of emasculating our young men in this country.

    March 3, 2011 at 7:46 pm |
    • Frogist

      @HeavenSent: Was that a joke? I'm not understanding your comment.

      March 4, 2011 at 10:16 am |
  18. Jeffrey

    Truth is, he signed a contract saying that if he violated the honor code, he would be put on suspension. The same thing happened to BYU's star running back Harvey Unga last year. Being an Ex Mormon I would never go to BYU knowing what I could get myself into. These guy's love going there and have no shame in agreeing to obey the schools rules. What angers me is that it has to go all over the media. Like a confession to the world that they had intercourse with a girl or something. This should be kept private.

    March 3, 2011 at 7:42 pm |
    • paige

      agreed.

      March 4, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
  19. Al Bluengreenenbrownenburger

    Okay, having read the honor code, I am now certain that BYU is the dullest university on the planet. They have prohibited everything that makes college fun. What a prudish and boring life.

    March 3, 2011 at 7:39 pm |
    • Kay

      And yet, people still apply to go there. Go figure, that some people actually go to college and university to learn something and not just party!!

      March 4, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  20. GSA

    I can safely say that if that Uni really upheld those values then most of their teachers, profs and students would be punished. I mean this guy at least admitted his wrong doing and i'm sure that unless he was caught and forced to admit (which it says nothing of the sort) than he must truly be sorry and they should let him play. That and they will continue losing badly without the big man playing the number 5 position and helping them on the boards and defending other centers.

    March 3, 2011 at 5:23 pm |
    • Nathan

      Can you safely say that? Wow, you must really have the inside track!

      March 4, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
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