Protesters rally in NY ahead of hearings on radical Islam
March 6th, 2011
06:37 PM ET

Protesters rally in NY ahead of hearings on radical Islam

Editor's Note: CNN’s Soledad O’Brien chronicles the dramatic fight over the construction of a mosque in the heart of the Bible belt. “Unwelcome: The Muslims Next Door”, airs Sunday, March 27 at 8 p.m. E.T.

By the CNN Wire Staff

Religious leaders, community members and activists took to the streets Sunday in New York to protest upcoming congressional hearings, convened by House Homeland Security Committee Chairman Peter King, on "the radicalization of American Muslims."

Demonstrators stood underneath umbrellas in a cold, sideways rain as speakers in Times Square addressed the crowd. Many said the hearings unfairly target Islam and warned they could stoke fear and fuel violence against the wider Muslim community.

Congress is scheduled to begin the hearings this week under the direction of King, R-New York.

"Congressman's King's hearings have the danger of portraying all Muslims and Islam as the enemy. And this is absolutely wrong and false. Our common enemy is extremism," said Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, one of the organizers of the rally.

iReport: Images from the protest

He stressed it is possible to be both a devoted Muslim and a loyal American.

Earlier in the day, King defended the hearings on CNN's "State of the Union" program.

"We're talking about al Qaeda," he said. "We're talking about the affiliates of al Qaeda, who have been radicalizing, and there's been self-radicalization going on within the Muslim community, within a very small minority, but it's there. And that's where the threat is coming from at this time."

King compared the goal of the hearings to investigating the Mafia within the Italian community or going after the Russian mob.

In New York, protesters waved U.S. flags and held signs that read: "Today, I'm a Muslim too" and "Mr King: Lies & Distortions do not make us more secure."

A rival, much smaller protest supporting the hearings gathered briefly near the rally.

"I don't know what anybody else is thinking, but this war on terror - this isn't some operation overseas. That's part of it. But this war on terror is happening right here, right now and we need to deal with it," said Andy Sullivan, with the Liberty Alliance Coalition.

Meanwhile, at a Muslim community center in Virgina, Denis McDonough, deputy national security advisor to the president, spoke about the need to prevent violent extremism and said U.S. Muslims are part of the solution.

"The bottom line is this - when it comes to preventing violent extremism and terrorism in the United States, Muslim Americans are not part of the problem, you're part of the solution," McDonough said. "Of course, the most effective voices against al Qaeda's warped worldview and interpretation of Islam are other Muslims."

He stressed the need to come together as Americans to promote tolerance.

"We must resolve that, in our determination to protect the nation, we will not stigmatize or demonize entire communities because of the actions of a few. In the United States of America, we don't practice guilt by association. And let's remember that just as violence and extremism are not unique to any one faith, the responsibility to oppose ignorance and violence rests with each of us," he said.

A White House source said McDonough's speech was not meant as a "prebuttal" to King's hearings, while a spokesman said the administration is finalizing its strategy to help stop violent extremism.

The plan includes creating alliances with local Muslim officials and expanding engagement within Muslim communities with the goal of preventing radical violence and identifying extremists.

"This is an important issue, and we welcome congressional interest. This is about our long-term strategy and what works, based on evidence and careful consideration," said White House spokesman Nick Shapiro.

–CNN's Susan Candiotti and Bonney Kapp contributed to this report.

- CNN Belief Blog

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soundoff (933 Responses)
  1. Op29

    Religion must be wiped from the weak minds of all believers or we will have a religious world war bigger than our previous world wars. But we don't have much time, so we are definitely screwed. Death is just the end of life.
    There is no help from anyone's god. No one is answering your prayers.
    If you feel you have reached this recording in error, please check your religion and try your prayers again.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
    • reggie

      I Fully AGREE

      March 6, 2011 at 9:56 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Thank you for the opinion of the communist party. Fortunately, WE in the US have some first amendment thing that tells you that YOU may not try to force your atheistic views upon the populace.
      And a second amendment to make REAL sure you can't.
      So, remember, I have a gun and I'll make you clean it! 😉

      March 6, 2011 at 10:30 pm |
    • fred bazzeeda

      @Wzrd1: take your guns and god and leave me alone. also the 'amendment thing' supports one being free from being forced to comply to your religions.
      Op29 definitely has a point. Religions is the root of all the causes of hate around the world. Not one shred of scientific proof has been put forth that anyone's religion is the truth or fact.
      So, until that can be presented, one must not take into account any religion's unproven theories of irrelevancy.

      March 6, 2011 at 11:57 pm |
    • commonman01

      Have you ever prayed??? If so what did you ask for?? was it a demand did you try to tell God what He should do?? I have had many prayers to God in Jesus's name answered and have witnessed other answered prayers as well. you know even satan can give things to those who ask it of him. So why can't God who created all things ??

      March 7, 2011 at 1:31 am |
    • jack

      @wiz LOL
      next time when your sick, pray instead of going to the hospital. and all those man made drugs, who needs those when you can pray it away!

      March 7, 2011 at 10:44 am |

    No one in this country had a problem with muslims until 9/11. After that! Boom!!!!! an explosion of racial ignorance! All this talk about terrorist in our country makes no sense at all! Where are they? If we have soooooo many terrorist in our country, why are they not bombing subways and blowing up crowds of people like they do in other countries? Because its a bunch of crap, thats why! And to tell someone to go back to their own country when this land wasn't even ours in the first place is ignorant too! The idea of "America" was not intended only for white americans! Our four fathers intended for America to fill with good people from other nations. That is why 75% of americans are mixed with a different race or two! Soooo as MUTS, we americans have no ground to tell someone to "go back to where you came from" On the other hand, people from other countries do come to America to build a better life. Uhhhhhh how can we let people into our country to build a better life for them, when we can't even build a better life for our people who were born here? So yes to help our situation now, we should stop people from comming into our country!

    March 6, 2011 at 9:50 pm |
    • Sam

      Are you kidding me? Do you know how many terrorist plots from inside this country have been foiled SINCE 9/11? If we are not careful, bombings will become as common here as they are in muslim countries themselves..

      March 6, 2011 at 9:57 pm |
    • Don

      There have been no terror plots from within the US foiled since 9/11. None. Zero.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:58 pm |
    • independentlyowned

      They're only picking on Muslims because A. It's much easier to have scapegoat to point their fingers at to blame 9/11 and every other problem on, because knowing exactly who terrorists are is much easier than not knowing and living in fear, and B. Because it makes the white Christians feel better about themselves and the exponentially larger number of white Christian terrorists in this country. If they can point the finger at someone else, then maybe no one will notice the faults of extremists in their own group...

      March 6, 2011 at 10:02 pm |
    • Sam

      Are you that stupid? Here's one from a couple of weeks ago.


      March 6, 2011 at 10:03 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      Sam, you're a perceptive fellow! Sorta like you're looking into someone's soul. Teach me that trick.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:12 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      I know quite a few Muslim Americans whose families have been in the US for 3 generations or more.
      So, telling them to go back to their country sends them right inside of their footsteps.
      The biggest idiocy is "we should ethnic profile". Cool! Islam is a RELIGION, hence any ethnic ANYTHING won't work. Every racial group on the planet is well represented with a Muslim population.
      But, they're the minority of the week and there IS a depression going on.
      So, as Jews have too much clout to oppress these days, the House Un-American Activities Committee will instead have a nice, grand pogrom on Muslims.
      I'm even willing to bet they'll bring back the old blacklist system!
      Welcome to the reversal of our rights and nation. We're now in the 1950's. Let's see how long it takes to repeal the fourteenth amendment and bring slavery back.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:44 pm |
  3. Mike

    "We must resolve that, in our determination to protect the nation, we will not stigmatize or demonize entire communities because of the actions of a few"
    BS. It happens all the time. Companies, government agencies, the military, etc. all punish everyone based on the actions of one or a few. The media always tries to portray groups based on the negative actions of a few.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Yeah, it's not like the House Un-American Activities Committee targeted more Jews than any OTHER group...

      March 6, 2011 at 10:39 pm |
  4. Brian Bailey

    As a Canadian, I'm much more worried about American Republicans like Glen Beck, Mike Huckabee and Sarah Palin, than I am about American muslims. Americans should take the advice of one of their last great presidents, Eisenhower, who said you have nothing to fear but fear itself...and the military industrial complex. Wake up America.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • Cherie

      It was actually FDR. Roosevelt who said that and Eisenhower that requoted him, but your point is correct. I fear more from the fundy Christians that want to bring on the Apocalypse than I do some "seekrit muslim terrorists"

      March 6, 2011 at 9:55 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      @ Cherie

      and a "I (Heart) Justin Bieber" Bracelet? Come'on. Tell the truth. You have one, don't you?

      March 6, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
    • willowspring

      Brian, you need to bone up on your history. That quote came directly out of FDRs mouth. Your comment tells me two things that I'm fairly sure of. You are too young to know the attribution of the quote or you public school education really dropped the ball. The other thing is you've been drinking the kool-aid. Glenn Beck et al are the saving grace for this country. It would take way more space than would be allowed here on this comment section to explain to you what I mean, but if you can understand one thing, know this. Glenn Beck backs up everything he says with the actual words and videos of those he is talking about. How can it be disputed when the actual recordings are in their own words? Don't just bad mouth Beck because you've heard some liberal bash him or you read liberal rag papers or watch the liberal mass media. Like Beck says, do your own research, don't believe him, find out for yourself.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:12 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Willow, sound bites are NOT the full words. Just as the Gore inventing the internet bit was about his creating an INTERNET TASK FORCE. I saw the FULL speech. But, it doesn't matter, sound bites REALLY count.
      And can be made to make someone sound like they're saying ANYTHING.
      Like a certain USDA former employee, who was fired over a forged youtube video that was soundbites edited out of order to make her sound like she was saying things she never said. And she was cleared when the ORIGINAL, FULL video was given to the press.
      Sorry, but I've found little to no truth out of Beck's mouth. To the point that if he came to my house and told me that the sky was a beautiful shade of blue, I'd run outside to see EXACTLY what shade of BROWN it is.
      The ONLY one worse than him is Palin, who was unable to string sufficient words together to explain what the tea party WAS when it got started and even looked confused while trying to explain it.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
    • hulamama51

      that shows your ignorance.....none of them would chop your head off because you're a Canadian ... try going to any one of these muslim countries and showing off your Canadian allegience and you'll end up headless !!!

      March 7, 2011 at 12:47 pm |
  5. George

    This statement says it all.
    "Many said the hearings unfairly target Islam and warned they could stoke fear and fuel violence against the wider Muslim community."
    Even those who say they are not radicals are threatening already!!!!!!

    "He stressed it is possible to be both a devoted Muslim and a loyal American."
    Not true, you can't be both if you are a "devoted" Muslim.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • Brian Bailey

      So I guess that is also true if you are a devoted Christian? What;s the difference? I'm not getting it.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:50 pm |
    • willowspring

      Rauf also speaks out of both sides of his mouth. He speaks of moderation and peace and love in America when he is speaking our language. When he is on Al-Jazeera speaking to Muslims in their own language, his remarks are very different and reflect the words of the Qur'an. My understanding is that the early writings of Mohammed were peaceful, but the older he got the more violent his writings. The sticking point is that he commands Muslims to follow the latest writings not the early ones. Muslims trying to convince others of their peaceful intentions will quote the early writings, assuming no one knows of the command to follow the violent laws that came later. Shari'a law is absolutely barbaric.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:03 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Really, willow? Your Arabic is that fluent? You listened to his words and translated them yourself?
      Or do you simply make it up or parrot the words of others?
      I learned a fair amount of Arabic while I was deployed and I NEVER heard him say anything substantially different than he's said here, save to include verses to support his view out of the Quran. How EVIL of a preacher to quote from his scripture when talking about religion!
      Now, stop sounding like a bint haram.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:47 pm |
    • mollyd

      You are a bigot....

      March 6, 2011 at 10:50 pm |
  6. Cherie

    Islam is equal to fundy Christianity. It slowly draws you in, makes you believe that the whole religion is peace and love and love for all mankind. Then it just slowly tells you that there are THOSE that are obvious sinners. Then it escalates into other things. Believing in a Sky Fairy will do that. It's just a matter of how far people wish to go in their beliefs.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:45 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      Cherie – I bet you have pink nail polish. With glitter.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:03 pm |
    • spiderman3d

      Hopefully, you will research what you are talking about before it is too late to save your soul. Try an experiment.....attend several Christian churches and see what you are missing.

      March 7, 2011 at 8:41 am |
    • Unreal

      Cherie – You are SPOT ON with your comparison to fundamentalist Christianity. It's funny (and more than a little sad) how many people can't see that.

      March 7, 2011 at 10:11 am |
    • jack

      you say there is a soul, prove it.

      March 7, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • darp0

      @OhISee: And if she does? What contribution are you making here?

      @spiderman3d: Been there, you're not missing much. Except football in the fall.

      March 7, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
  7. Abdulameer

    These demonstrations are part of the Muslim Brotherhood plot to take attention away from their own stealth jihad in America. Muslim Americans are a decidedly mixed bag. Many do not follow the sharia jihadist doctrines of Islam, but many of them do. So, yes, Muslim Americans, at least many of them, are, indeed, part of the problem!!! Any Muslim who believes that the Koran and the sayings of Muhammad are sacred is part of the problem, and here is why:
    –“ the (only) religion (acceptable) before God is Islam." (3:19)
    - " If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him." (3: 85)
    - “You are the noblest community ever raised up for mankind.” (3:110)
    - The unbelievers among the people of the book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of all creatures. (98.6).
    - Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who disbelieve. (8.55)
    –The unbelievers are your inveterate enemy. (4:101)
    - Mohammed is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another. (48:29).
    - It is unlawful for a believer to kill another believer, accidents excepted. (4:92)
    - Believers, take neither the Jews nor the Christians for your friends. (5:51)
    - Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme. (8:40)
    - Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme. (2:193)
    - The true believers fight for the cause of God, but the infidels fight for the devil. (4:76)
    - We will put terror into the hearts of the unbelievers. (3:151)
    - I shall cast terror into the hearts of the infidels. Strike off their heads, strike off the very tips of their fingers. (8:12)
    - Muhammad said to the Jews: "If you embrace Islam, you will be safe. You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I want to expel you from this land. “
    - Allah's Apostle said, "You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones. The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
    - Mohammed said, "I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah, and whoever says, " None has the right to be worshipped but Allah , his life and property will be saved by me." (otherwise it will not).
    - Mohammed said, "Whoever changes his Islamic religion, kill him."
    - Mohammed said, " No Muslim should be killed for killing a Kafir" (infidel).
    - Muhammad said: "Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, …"
    In addition, the most popular manual of Islamic sacred law, approved by the highest Islamic religious authorities of Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia and Egypt, says: "Jihad means to make war on non-Muslims." What could be clearer than that?

    March 6, 2011 at 9:33 pm |
    • Hana

      please stop getting your quotes from late night shows?! Most of what you said is B.S , whoever gave you this website that you cut and pasted those suppossed sayings from is as much to blame as you for the ignorance that is arround us.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    • David

      You do realize that the "Holy Bible" says pretty much the exact same things, right? Though their word is Christian and not Islam, they also ask for the deaths of "infidels" and those who leave the religion and those who tell you that there are other religions in the world.. Christianity is no better nor any worse than the religion of Islam. Why those of you declaring that Islam should be investigated, but do not also seek the investigation of extremism in all forms is beyond me. You have a group of Christians within your own country, Westboro church, going around declaring their war against damn near everything American in the name of God and yet you ignore that in favor of a single religious people. Ignorance knows no bounds.. But stupidity will blindly allow you to follow that ignorance, no matter where it's end leads you.. When will people learn to think for themselves and see the whole of the issue instead of picking a singular piece to either praise or harass?

      March 6, 2011 at 9:55 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      What the Quran SAID was to not make war upon other Muslims, as they were brothers.
      The Quran ONLY authorized violence as a last resort against oppression of their faith.
      But, you'd have to understand Arabic to understand the concept in the words used. Something I learned a fair amount of over the course of nearly 5 years of Persian Gulf deployment and living off base, I HAD to learn more than a little to be able to make daily purchases, like FOOD.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:51 pm |
    • commonman01

      The God that the bible describes is not even close to an allah . You should read the bible instead of spewing your anti Christian bigot message. Short version : God created the world and all that is in it. man was perfect but then sinned ( did what god said not to do) God sent His only son to die for your sins ( pay the consequences of them) to redeem all men who will believe in Jesus ( the ultimate act of love) from destruction and give them eternal life. There is no 'religion" like it.

      March 7, 2011 at 1:11 am |
    • spiderman3d

      Earth to David...Earth to David. Don't comment about things you have no knowledge about. What kind of a comparison is "religios terriorists" to a bunch of obviously off-the-wall demonstrators.

      March 7, 2011 at 8:38 am |
    • jack


      keke thx bai

      March 7, 2011 at 10:47 am |
    • WallaWalla

      Are we going to start quoting all the weird insane stuff from the Bible, too? Because there is a hell of a lot of it.

      March 7, 2011 at 11:49 am |
    • darp0

      Change out a few terms here and there and you have passages from the Christian bible here. The point is that religious extremism is now, and always has been, the problem. That and people like you who are so ready to condemn people who you dont understand.

      March 7, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
  8. cameron

    I guess I agree that not all muslims are bad, but in the Koran it allows any follower to interpret a threat to their religion that needs to be taken out with a jihad, so its all blind hate that is fueled by their religion. I'm not trying to be a bigot, but followers of Islam shouldn't be surprised when a plan to build mosque on top of ground zero, coordinated by people who strictly follow Islam, may not strike a good tone with the people who lost love ones on September 11th.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:23 pm |
    • mollyd

      What about Mormons? Let's just marry our daughter off to her uncle, she's 12......old enough to have babies.....and she'll be wife #4............talk about nuts.........
      And the orthodox Jews.......marry at 17........have 8 babies...........so gross.........their men are dirty.......sorry........I see them drinking and smoking........total hypocrites............religion is a joke..........

      March 6, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Really, cameron? I lost a cousin in one of the World Trade Center towers. His grave is empty, as his remains were ground into nothingness in the collapse.
      And I was unaware that 600 YARDS is ON TOP OF. Especially as there HAS BEEN A MOSQUE THERE FOR YEARS. They want to tear down a building that was damaged by the collapse. The approval was made by the borough of Manhattan zoning board WITH the approval of the ENTIRE COMMUNITY.
      So, unless you are a Manhattan resident, you REALLY should let off of what goes on in their borough, lest they interfere with YOUR local issues.
      Of course, SOME want the entire area, which is essentially the entire business district made a monument, which would collapse our business for fortune 500. As THAT is the ONLY way to stop them legally.
      They own the land. It's zoning approved. I'll happen, all nice and legal like.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:55 pm |
  9. Muneef

    Yes well in my country as well we have many crimes made by Muslims and Muslim terrorists and prisons are full of them?
    Strange isn't it that although it is a Muslim country she still suffers like the west thinks suffer !!? But since we are Islamic country and no major presence for Jews and Christians we are not able to see who out of those is found more in persons...
    As for American being a multi culture country can easily tell us percentage of each ideology in their prisons ??! Then only we can say who is worse and has no Morales....

    March 6, 2011 at 9:23 pm |
    • mollyd

      Stop smoking crack............

      March 6, 2011 at 10:45 pm |
    • commonman01

      only muslims in your country because muslims kill the non muslims !!!! now that is a belief system that should not be allowed in this country.

      March 7, 2011 at 12:57 am |
  10. CAM

    Omg if you all think all muslims are supporters of terrorism lock your doors and stay inside forever its not safe out there lol. Get real how many terrorists attacks are there in the U.S since 911? How many failed attacks has there been in our country, 2? We have more problems with cults than we do with islam in America. No people you know where the real terrorists come from, from countries our government is best friends with! So why don't you protest how we're allied with countries that kill on a daily basis more then terrorist can ever dream of killing, SAUDI ARABIA they are the biggest dictator ship in the world. Why didnt anyone protest why we were allied with Hosni Mubarak of egypt hmm? Didn't he just get overthrown? Why is that because he was a good guy? Please wake up! Terrorists dont like the U.S because we support evil dictatorships that oppress their people beyond ways u can ever think of. Because those evil governments bow down to us. Islam a threat? What a joke, its the governments we support who are a threat to humanity.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:23 pm |
    • commonman01

      America has many countires it does business with .... democratic or not ....... give the responsibility to the people of a country for who they have leading them. many dictators have been killed by and replaced with other dictators .. do muslims have a phrase that says " gow up and take reponsibility for your own" ?

      March 7, 2011 at 12:54 am |
  11. Alan

    sorry...its not the religion, its the large number of psychos who are part of it....when the bombings and mass murders stop, we will stop looking at you funny....if you dont like it, well....there is always Iran

    March 6, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
    • CAM

      Ya and when the U.S government stops supporting Dictatorships who commit mass murder like Saudi Arabia, Egypt, and almost ever other middle eastern country were aligned with. The middle-eastern population will stop looking at us funny.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:26 pm |
    • youropinionisdumb

      Sorry, there is always Iran? Love it or leave it eh? The problem with that is that I dont think people of your opinion are the majority here, so it's perhaps you who should find some other place to live.

      March 7, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
  12. Son of Man

    When AMERICA declared independence from Britain, the first country that accepted the the New Independent Nation that we now call the United States of America, was a MUSLIM Country – Morocco. Yes my fellow Americans, a Muslim country, not France or Spain, or Italy or any European country, but a MUSLIM country.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:15 pm |
    • BS

      your point?

      March 6, 2011 at 10:54 pm |
    • Big Bob

      And apparently John Adams STILL wasn't impressed. Must have been a "racist"! ; )

      March 7, 2011 at 11:37 am |
  13. Rasheed

    Call me to talk about terrorism after you have paid reparations to Native Americans for killing them with smallpox – bioterrorism. Call me after you've paid reparations to African Americans for kidnapping them from their peaceful lives and forcing them into slavery. Call me after you've paid reparations to Latin Americans for screwing up their countries and their economies. Call me after you've paid reparations to Palestinians for getting your zionist agents pillage their land and steal it for your agents. Call me after you've paid reparations to all Arabs and Muslims for killing so many of them in unauthorized wars killing millions of them with sanctions. Or else shut the hell up.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:03 pm |
    • BhuddaPatudda

      Sounds peacful to me.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:07 pm |
    • Really old bad guy

      My bad, I did everything you said. I need to go to bed now, I'm 234 years old you know.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:19 pm |
    • BattleofTours

      Rasheed... how about Muslims paying reperations to the Byzantine Empire, giving back all of Ionian Greece, Egypt to the Coptics, Persia to the Zoroastrians, Afghanastan to the Buddhists and Pakistan and Indonesia to the Hindus? How about if the Muslim world pays back reperations to the American Indians for bringing about colonization because you refused to open the trade routes from india to Europe? How about paying back the reparations for invading Northern France hunreds of years before the FIRST crusade? How about muslims paying reperations for centuries of oppression and aggression in South Eastern Europe? How about making reparations to Europe for the massive amount of aid money, medicine and technology you have been given? How about making reparations for 1,500 years of religious intolerance and oppression? Or else maybe you, too, could 'shut up'? What do you say?

      March 6, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
    • Redman

      Wow Rasheed i am an American Indian and i wouldnt trust a Muslim, you see I know where I stand with the white man and I can live with that, I just can't trust a Muslim as i've been out of the country to a middle eastern country and i've seen first hand how they live and practice this Religion of Peace and it scares me to no end as there is no peace there ( Join us or Die religion ). As for your other argument's we dont have time to show through history how one sided they are other than to say, There an old argument and they've been proven wrong so try again.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
    • rs1201


      Keep talking that way...it'll get you and your people as far as the airport on a plane back to your native arab country...you're not welcome here...what is it that you don't understand!

      March 6, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
    • willowspring

      No one purposefully brought small pox to the Native Americans. Anyone with a brain know that. The African Americas were brought here by their own race. The slave runners were blacks from Africa. Again, anyone knows that if they've read any history. It does not make it right, but don't tell only part of the story. Every nasty comment you made can be refuted, or at the least, better understood in context. You last sentence tells me exactly what kind of person you are. No manners, uncouth and a very angry person that could actually be radicalized. Maybe we should watch you.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      @ Rasheed

      "Or else shut the hell up."

      Or "else" what? Bring it, blow-hole.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:33 pm |
    • mollyd

      It was the British and the Portuguese that started slavery. They still have slavery in the Sudan.
      Most Americans had nothing to do with it at all, as their ancestors did not come to America until after slavery was banned. Go to the library and do some research. You are ignorant.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:40 pm |
    • BS

      It was the Africans who started slavery by enabling the Europeans by selling them their own people.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:52 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Willow, you must have failed history. EVERY POINT YOU MADE WAS WRONG.
      Smallpox, transmitted deliberately by the British to the Native Americans by infected blankets.
      You got ZERO facts right.

      March 6, 2011 at 11:05 pm |
    • commonman01

      rasheed you are probably on the homeland watch list ..... your ignorance of facts gives your muslim brainwash thinking a big red light as a terrorist!

      March 7, 2011 at 12:45 am |
    • Li

      Hey Rasheed,

      Muslims held between 11 and 18 million Africans were enslaved by Arab slave traders and taken across the Red Sea, Indian Ocean, and Sahara desert between 650 and 1900

      March 7, 2011 at 9:39 am |
    • Yes

      @at BS– Africans did not start slavery. Read a history book.

      Africans who sold others into slavery were not responsible for the vast numbers that were taken (forcibly OR under false pretenses) by greedy Europeans. Do you really think the Europeans shelled out that much money or that many goods?

      The same goes for modern day s3xx slavery today: yes their are a few instances of families selling their own girls, the the majority are forced or duped into slavery.

      March 7, 2011 at 11:00 am |
    • Big Bob

      Hi Again, Rasheed!

      The Indians weren't enslaved. They were deposited on reservations and were permitted to retain their customs.
      After a couple of hundred years as failing hunter/gatherers, they signed on to the man's ways and are raking it in at the casinos. Also, they had no problem wiping themselves out using guns supplied by the man. Those bloodfeuds were going on for centuries before the Europeans came. Also, from Maine to the Aleutians, you would've been hard pressed to find Indians numbering much more than 10 million. And the area from the Rio Grande to Tierra del Fuego are populated by the decendents of Indians and Spaniards. It's a huge area, temprate and full of natural resources. How come they aren't responsible for their dysfunction. Anglos seem to have gotten it right north of the border...

      March 7, 2011 at 11:35 am |
    • WallaWalla

      Big bob, you know literally nothing about the history of native people in North America and your points are merely ignorant racist post-facto rationalizations. Don't try to use your own misinformed assumptions to color in centuries of discrimination and terror. What a chump

      March 7, 2011 at 11:47 am |
  14. Teaneck

    Political correctness has emasculated the US. We are all going to have our heads handed to us like Daniel Pearl. If you
    are a Christian or a Jew, you are the enemy of a Muslim.

    March 6, 2011 at 9:00 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      And you are a nut.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:15 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      Emma, let me guess.. Wizards of Waverly Place screen saver?

      March 6, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
    • Lubna

      Have you even read the Quran or know anything factual about Islam? Jews and Christians are called people of the book and are among the most respected in Islam because they share the same historical family. Abraham is considered the father or the head of the Jewish, Christian, and Islamic tree. Please turn off Fox immediately and visit your local library to become better informed. You're comment makes you appear like an uneducated bigot.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:37 pm |
    • BS

      @ Lubna... if they are so respected, why does every Muslim dream of the destruction of Israel?

      March 6, 2011 at 10:50 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Political correctness is... Blah. The PC argument is used whenever someone wants to take rights away or not OBEY THE LAW.
      Mention that something is illegal, get called PC.

      March 6, 2011 at 11:03 pm |
    • commonman01

      Lubna ..... are you crazy or just think that we are ...... what muslim country respects and endears Christians ? Christians are killed and imprisioned for saying they believe in Jesus the savior of this messed up world !

      March 7, 2011 at 12:39 am |
    • Teaneck

      What an intellectual conversation here. Turn off Fox News, you are a nut, et.al. Products of the American School System.
      How sad.

      March 7, 2011 at 10:27 am |
    • Yes

      @BS - Lubna is practicing the Islamic tenet of Taqiyya– she is lying in attempt for gain your trust.

      March 7, 2011 at 10:53 am |
    • WallaWalla

      Hey Teaneck, you're an enemy of freedom. Preaching hatred, bigotry and discrimination is as American as apple pie, but it doesn't make it right. Don't vote!

      March 7, 2011 at 11:44 am |
  15. al

    Islam is a curse. Stop now or pay later – a cult should not be treated as a religion

    March 6, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
    • SayWhaaa!!

      You have no idea what the word cult means. Just another keyboard bigot.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:16 pm |
    • al

      I am smart, not bigot and so are majority of people in this world. Stop the spread of this disease 'islam' before it is too late

      March 6, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      No, you are not smart, and yes, you are bigoted. Your words say all we need to know about you.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:15 pm |
    • Barry Gibb

      It's only words ~~~~ and words are all he has ~~~~ to take you heart awaaaaay.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:29 pm |
    • mollyd

      Grow up. Yoga is a cult. Islam has been hijacked, just like Christianity has been hijacked by the Westboro nut-jobs..........religion is clearly for the dim-minded and confused.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
    • BS

      religion is a curse. period.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:49 pm |
  16. Rasheed

    America IS the problem. They go around the world killing peoples' children and expect the whole world to give them flowers? Look at their own puppet president Karzai beginning to pick on them for killing 9 poor children cutting wood in their own country. Terrorists, right? Americans ARE the militants here.

    March 6, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
    • Sam

      Really? We wouldn't be in afganistan it wasn't for the september 11th attacks. Who attached who on that day, please remind me? Have you seen that picture of that afganistan girl with her nose and ears cut off by the taliban? Guess where she lives now? AMERICA.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:45 pm |
    • Big Bob

      No, Rasheed!

      The Americans are liberator's. Eventually you get your land back, only to fall back to the same Islamist dysfunction.

      Your boys would happily wipe out the infidels if they could figure out 2 + 2.

      March 7, 2011 at 11:26 am |
  17. Greg

    Where were the hearings on Christian extremism when Eric Rudolph was mudering office workers? What about after Koresch built his Christian kingdom? Let's at least be consistent enough to hide our racism and bigotry.

    March 6, 2011 at 8:56 pm |
  18. someone

    Well if you really wanna know......Who said believing in God was easy. Islam says,to treat everyone equally not matter who ever you are ......because no matter who you are or what religion, you follow ....God listens to everyone. Islam doesn't tell you to be violent or kill people. Islam tells you to be kind,respectful,truthful,and to follow God no matter what people say. I know it's hard to be respectful and truthful and kind but that's the whole point of Islam. Never judge Islam by a Muslim. Islam is the religion of peace to man and the Jinn.

    March 6, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
    • BhuddaPatudda

      National Socialist Germany wants peace because of its fundamental convictions. And it wants peace also owing to the realization of the simple primitive fact that no war would be likely essentially to alter the distress in Europe... The principal effect of every war is to destroy the flower of the nation... Germany needs peace and desires peace!
      Adolf Hitler Speech to the Reichstag in Berlin May 1935

      March 6, 2011 at 9:00 pm |
    • rs1201

      how about the part about "infidels" and the need to kill them...

      March 6, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
    • Dhimmitude

      "Islam says"

      Sorry, but "Islam says" whatever it want to say. It is a living contradiction wrapped in a puzzle wrapped in an enigma (or however that goes.) And it changes with each translation.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    • juozas malickas

      and cut off peoples heads if they are not muslim. Keep ANY religion in your home and don't bring it in any public place. Islam is what Christianity used to be 500-600 years ago....cruel, impossive and blind.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:44 pm |
    • reggie

      I know the Christians aren't talking! not with all the blood on their hands!! We would be better off without religion, only causes problems

      March 6, 2011 at 9:50 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      @RS: How about the part where your bible tells you to kill people who eat shrimp by stoning them to death? Care to address that? Well then, until you do, how about if you shut it?

      March 6, 2011 at 10:13 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      @juozas: Islam is what Christianity, and all other religions, are now.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:14 pm |
    • Oh, I See.

      @ Emma

      You are just -so- profound. I bet you're a veritable fountain of cuteness. Here you go. Ask mom for her debit card.


      March 6, 2011 at 10:20 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      The ONLY place where the Quran says to kill ANYONE is IF the religion is being oppressed, at THAT point, resistance and even violence is permitted. And the guidance over the centuries has been to try peaceful resistance at first.
      But, what would *I* know? I've only read the entire bible AND Quran. The Quran and multiple Hadiths, as part of my evaluation of the threat environment to my base in the middle east. And I only spent nearly 5 years there, living off base and dealing with Arabs on a daily basis.

      The problem is NOT the religion, but the abuse thereof of the religion by those who seek to gain power.
      Which can be said of EVERY OTHER RELIGION around.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:29 pm |
  19. Templar1

    This is, I think, still America. Why does every group want to be "heard" but deny every other group the same right? What does it hurt to hear more thaan one side? Get out of the rain, stay home, and give the other guy his chance to make a point.

    March 6, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      Excuse me? No one was trying to deny anyone anything. It was a rally in support of tolerance. You know, one of those American values? Why do you hate American values?

      March 6, 2011 at 10:12 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      I see! So, Templar, you are against the right to the people to peaceably assemble?
      Or only SOME people may peaceably assemble?
      It IS only the very FIRST amendment, that RIGHT.
      If someone else wants their say, they are allowed to peaceably assemble as well.

      March 6, 2011 at 10:25 pm |
    • Upperhand

      @ Emma The Gre – Hey go shower and use a country flower scented d*uche or something, you're really starting to smell up this forum.

      March 7, 2011 at 1:58 am |
    • Li

      You speak of tolerance? Really? Muslim dominated countries have NONE! They don't separate church from state. Why the hell do you think they aren't going to do the same crap here? They are already calling for areas in the U.S. to be ruled by Sharia Law.

      March 7, 2011 at 9:31 am |
    • Unreal

      Li – stop listening to Glenn Beck, for crying out loud. The only places where Sharia law has become an issue is where reactionary, bigoted, ignorant people have passed laws to "outlaw" its imposition in their town or county. Which is a completely pointless act because, in the US, laws have to be passed by governments, elected representatives or by the people themselves. Laws can't just be "imposed" by some group because they feel like it - unless that group the current ACTIVIST Supreme Court lead by Justice Roberts ... THAT's who we should fear (and possibly investigate).

      March 7, 2011 at 10:21 am |
    • douglas

      Apparently many Muslims would disagree with you.

      March 7, 2011 at 10:39 am |
  20. tmichael

    Let's have a hearing on 'religious radicals' of all stripes and pull the curtain back on all the craziness, Christian, Muslim, and Jewish!

    March 6, 2011 at 8:45 pm |
    • Michael

      very well said

      March 6, 2011 at 9:20 pm |
    • willowspring

      Westboro extremists might be a good place to start. Any person or group that is becoming extreme or are actively extremist should be watch and or investigated. Many Muslim Americans could very well be opposed to the extremism they see in radicalized Muslims. They should feel the obligation to actively do something about it by informing authorities. If they value their freedom to live in this country, they should do their part as any other American would.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
    • Mike

      Don't forget that atheism is now a "religion" and there just as many rude, obnoxious, and violent atheists as the other spiritual religions you just mentioned.

      March 6, 2011 at 9:44 pm |
    • Emma the Grey

      @Mike: atheists may be rude and obnoxious, in your experience, but we're not trying to tell anyone else how to live. So there's that, eh?

      March 6, 2011 at 10:10 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Better yet, open the hearing up PROPERLY, on ALL extremists. BEFORE we end up with another OKC bombing.
      Of course, that WON'T happen, it's FAR better in some minds to repeat the House Un-American Activities Committee nonsense again, complete with employment blacklists.
      I can just hear the hearings now: "Are you now or have you ever in the past been a member if the Muslim party?"
      Hey, I never said politicians are bright...

      March 6, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
    • mollyd

      Perfect comment. Let's go after the Westboro Church messengers of total hate....

      March 6, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
    • Wzrd1

      Molly, I'd happily join you on that one, but I'd not trust myself to not become violent. They LITERALLY protested at the GRAVESIDE of two of my men who were killed by IED's.

      March 6, 2011 at 11:07 pm |
    • Upperhand

      I disagree, let's keep this simple and stick to the fokking subject!!!

      The followers of other religions are not out killing and attacking Americans...the only ones doing that are Muslims period!!!

      March 7, 2011 at 1:44 am |
    • Chris

      Yes tmichael, we need a true Atheist government to bring us to the final enlightenment. Atheist governments like Lenin and Stalin; Mao; and Pol Pot. Rulers like Hitler who took Darwin's theories to their great final solutions. Atheism in power is the loss of all freedoms.

      March 7, 2011 at 10:56 am |
    • WallaWalla

      The only people attacking Americans are Muslims? What the hell news have you been reading? Did North Korea convert overnight or something? How about the Soviets, where they Muslim too?

      March 7, 2011 at 11:39 am |
    • WallaWalla

      Also, cherry-picking "atheist" leaders is really stupid because atheism isn't a belief system, it's the absence of one. It means nothing and bears no impact on their status as leaders. It would probably be a good thing if more leaders were atheists, so they could form their decisions on the basis of rational thought and discussion instead of religion. The Bible says nothing about economics or the finer points of international relations.

      March 7, 2011 at 11:41 am |
    • Henry

      Where were those protesters when a terror attack is committed? if muslims are against those attacks, then show the rest of world they are really against it
      If a people is capable of thinking rationally, he should figure it out by now that ALL muslims are supporters of terrorists.

      March 7, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
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