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 Smithsonian paper conservator Janice Stagnitto Ellis displays the cover page from Thomas Jefferson's Bible.
March 11th, 2011
08:52 AM ET
Saving Thomas Jefferson's scrapbook BibleBy Sally Holland, CNN Thomas Jefferson literally cut passages on the chronology and moral teachings of Jesus out of several Bibles and glued them into what historians have termed the Jefferson Bible. The founding father completed the book that he called "The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth" during his retirement in 1820. Conservationists at the National Museum of American History are currently working to preserve the almost-200-year-old book so it can go on display in November. Paper conservator Janice Stagnitto Ellis said the main problem is the way the book was bound. Over time, the paper has become less flexible, and bending the brittle pages caused the paper to tear, she said. "Without doing modifications to the binding, we could open the book [to] about a 30-degree angle before the paper would be required to bend, which it couldn't do," she said. "It became un-exhibitable." The goal is to display the book opened to a 90-degree angle.
The 86-page book was bound in high-end red Moroccan leather with gold tooling. Inside, passages from the Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John in English, French, Latin and Greek are pasted side by side so Jefferson could compare the various translations of the story of the life of Jesus. "He puts them in chronological order and ... extracts those parts that can be identified through reason and thought," museum curator Harry Rubenstein said. "So out goes the miracles, out goes the resurrections and what remains is what he thinks is the life and morals of Jesus, the true teachings." Jefferson used six different "source" Bibles to create his version: two in English, two in French and two that included both Greek and Latin. He needed two of each so that if he cut a passage out of one side of a page, he would still have the back side of that page in case he wanted to include a passage from there.  A curator handles one of Jefferson's source Bibles. The museum also has the two English "source" Bibles which show the cutout holes of the scripture Jefferson included in his version. Jefferson also changed the grammar. On one page, he apparently didn't like the number of prepositions in a verse from Matthew that started, "For as in the days that were before the flood ..." He cut out the word "as," changing the scripture to "For in the days that were before the flood ..." The Smithsonian acquired the book from Jefferson's great-granddaughter in 1895 for $400. In 1904, Congress authorized printed photocopies of the book that were given to all of its incoming members. This practice ended in the 1950s when they ran out of copies. Currently, preservationists have removed the binding for the Jefferson Bible and are doing digital scans of all of the pages of the book to be included as part of the display later this year. They are looking at various ways to provide more flexibility in the binding.
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"Staying stoned and stu ... I see." More assumptions again and obviously you can't comprehend since it was an error caused by cnn's site and not me. Keep going and proving you are not in control. Jesus help HS to see the light.
@HeavenSent
Did Satan pee in your corn flakes this morning or something?
HS is beginning to remind me of Kevin Spacey's character in Se7en.
HS is nothing but a self-aggrandizing pill. She's done more harm than good, no doubt about it.
And Amber if you go to the previous page and look at the post by Birdman and the responses are perfect examples of both sides ... It is truly so sad..... It does not seem to matter ... Intolerance is the fashion of these days... we live in a populist world.....
Here is a good question for all of you out there in Belief Blog land. Is Thomas Jefferson guilty of anything different than what the early Church fathers did in the 4th century? Picking and choosing the books and phrases they wanted to support the theology they wanted to present?
Jefferson was a Deist-Unitarian who fathered children with his slave, Sally Hemmings. Put that in the Tea Party charter.
Nuh-uh!
Next you're going to say that Ronald Reagan was going senile during his second term!
Ah Saint Reagan of Gipper – Patron of Afternoon Naps and Plausible Deniability.
Don't forget, he also actively suborned the Administrations of both Washington and Adams. In Washington's case, subtly in order to aggravate his rival Alexander Hamilton; in Adams' case pretty much openly to deny him election to a second term. He also conned Aaron Burr into supporting his candidacy over his own when the election of 1800 moved to the House, promising Burr the Vice Presidency if he could deliver NY. Burr did, then Jefferson did everything he could to undermine Burr and his authority. When Burr was faced with his treason charge, Jefferson did everything he could to cause a guilty verdict, even though the perpetrator of the "Texas Scheme" was actually one of Jefferson's closest friends.
Yep, that makes him an ideal example for the Tea Party to follow. Unfortunately, all of them combined are not as smart as Jefferson was. Jefferson knew when to cut his losses and change positions.
As far as fathering a child with a female slave, that was pretty much the standard for Virginia Planters. After all, Sally Hemmings was his wife Martha's half-sister!
Amber ... here is an excellent example of what I spoke of in response to you earlier!
Does not these verses speak of the Ancient Falling Systems and the Recent Past and Present Falling Systems? It warns and remind all of the future that if you fail you fall...and those blows come to believers and unbelievers on turns..it tests believers and destroys disbelievers....How much of that happens through wars and conflicts....How much of that through Natural Disasters....Aren't we seeing that all? Isn't it telling us some thing is wrong of our own wrong doing and disbelief....? Man can reverse ill-faith by reversing intentions in to right doings in deeds,actions and spiritual worship,prayers in peace with soul,pay poor due and charity as a belief and a spiritual meditation for soul to have mercy on earth,afterlife,resurrection and judgment day.....?!? What we got to lose,since we all ride the same as ship in the middle of this universe as a ship in the ocean..and every body wants it his way such a ship will never set to sail but to crash and drawn with the whole lot...!?
Al-E-Imran sura 03:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Systems have passed away before you. Do but travel in the land and see the nature of the consequence for those who did deny (the messengers). (137) This is a declaration for mankind, a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil) (138) Faint not nor grieve, for ye will overcome them if ye are (indeed) believers. (139) If ye have received a blow, the (disbelieving) people have received a blow the like thereof. These are (only) the vicissitudes which We cause to follow one another for mankind, to the end that Allah may know those who believe and may choose witnesses from among you; and Allah loveth not wrong-doers. (140) And that Allah may prove those who believe, and may blight the disbelievers. (141).
Mohammed was an illiterate, womanizing, lust and greed-driven, warmongering, hallucinating Arab, who also had embellishing/hallucinating/plagiarizing scribal biographers who not only added "angels" and flying chariots to the koran but also a militaristic agenda to support the plundering and looting of the lands of non-believers.
This agenda continues as shown by the ma-ssacre in Mumbai, the as-sas-sinations of Bhutto and Theo Van Gogh, the conduct of the seven Muslim doctors in the UK, the 9/11 terrorists, the 24/7 Sunni suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the 24/7 Shiite suicide/roadside/market/mosque bombers, the Islamic bombers of the trains in the UK and Spain, the Bali crazies, the Kenya crazies, the Pakistani “koranics”, the Palestine suicide bombers/rocketeers, the Lebanese nutcases, the Taliban nut jobs, the Ft. Hood follower of the koran, and the Filipino “koranics”.
And who funds this muck and stench of terror? The warmongering, Islamic, Shiite terror and torture theocracy of Iran aka the Third Axis of Evil and also the Sunni "Wannabees" of Saudi Arabia.
Current crises:
The Sunni-Shiite blood feud and the warmongering, womanizing (11 wives), hallucinating founder.
Reality.
Please add to your wide wisdom with my full respect...
Al-Anaam 06:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Praise be to Allah, Who hath created the heavens and the earth, and hath appointed darkness and light. Yet those who disbelieve ascribe rivals unto their Lord. (1) He it is Who hath created you from clay, and hath decreed a term for you. A term is fixed with Him. Yet still ye doubt! (2) He is Allah in the heavens and in the earth. He knoweth both your secret and your utterance, and He knoweth what ye earn. (3) Never came there unto them a revelation of the revelations of Allah but they did turn away from it. (4) And they denied the truth when it came unto them. But there will come unto them the tidings of that which they used to deride. (5).
Al-Anaam
Had we sent down unto thee (Muhammad) (actual) writing upon parchment, so that they could feel it with their hands, those who disbelieve would have said: This is naught else than mere magic. (7) They say: Why hath not an angel been sent down unto him? If We sent down an angel, then the matter would be judged; no further time would be allowed them (for reflection). (8) Had we appointed him an angel (Our messenger), We assuredly had made him (as) a man (that he might speak to men); and (thus) obscured for them (the truth) they (now) obscure. (9) Messengers (of Allah) have been derided before thee, but that whereat they scoffed surrounded such of them as did deride. (10) Say (unto the disbelievers): Travel in the land, and see the nature of the consequence for the rejecters! (11) Say: Unto whom belongeth whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth? Say: Unto Allah. He hath prescribed for Himself mercy, that He may bring you all together to the Day of Resurrection whereof there is no doubt. Those who ruin their souls will not believe. (12).
Al-Anaam
Those unto whom We gave the Scripture recognise (this revelation) as they recognise their sons. Those who ruin their own souls will not believe. (20) Who doth greater wrong than he who inventeth a lie against Allah or denieth His revelations? Lo! the wrongdoers will not be successful. (21).
Al-Anaam
And this is a blessed Scripture which We have revealed, confirming that which (was revealed) before it, that thou mayst warn the Mother of Villages and those around her. Those who believe in the Hereafter believe herein, and they are careful of their worship. (92) Who is guilty of more wrong than he who forgeth a lie against Allah, or saith: I am inspired, when he is not inspired in aught; and who saith: I will reveal the like of that which Allah hath revealed? If thou couldst see, when the wrong-doers reach the pangs of death and the angels stretch their hands out saying: Deliver up your souls. This day ye are awarded doom of degradation for that ye spake concerning Allah other than the truth, and scorned His portents. (93) Now have ye come unto Us solitary as We did create you at the first, and ye have left behind you all that We bestowed upon you, and We behold not with you those your intercessors, of whom ye claimed that they possessed a share in you. Now is the bond between you severed, and that which ye presumed hath failed you. (94).
Al-Anaam
Perfected is the Word of thy Lord in truth and justice. There is naught that can change His words. He is the Hearer, the Knower. (115) If thou obeyedst most of those on earth they would mislead thee far from Allah's way. They follow naught but an opinion, and they do but guess. (116) Lo! thy Lord, He knoweth best who erreth from His way; and He knoweth best (who are) the rightly guided. (117).
Al-Anaam
And whomsoever it is Allah's will to guide, He expandeth his bosom unto the Surrender, and whomsoever it is His Will to send astray, He maketh his bosom close and narrow as if he were engaged in sheer ascent. Thus Allah layeth ignominy upon those who believe not. (125) This is the path of thy Lord, a straight path. We have detailed Our revelations for a people who take heed. (126).
The whole story is as comes;
Al-Anaam sura 06:
Say: Come, I will recite unto you that which your Lord hath forbidden to you: that ye ascribe no thing as partner unto Him and that ye do good to parents, and that ye slay not your children because of penury – We provide for you and for them – and that ye draw not nigh to lewd things whether open or concealed. And that ye slay not the life which Allah hath made sacred, save in the course of justice. This He hath command you, in order that ye may discern. (151) And approach not the wealth of the orphan save with that which is better, till he reach maturity. Give full measure and full weight, in justice. We task not any soul beyond its scope. And if ye give your word, do justice thereunto, even though it be (against) a kinsman; and fulfil the covenant of Allah. This He commandeth you that haply ye may remember. (152) And (He commandeth you, saying): This is My straight path, so follow it. Follow not other ways, lest ye be parted from His way. This hath He ordained for you, that ye may ward off (evil). (153) Again, We gave the Scripture unto Moses, complete for him who would do good, an explanation of all things, a guidance and a mercy, that they might believe in the meeting with their Lord. (154) And this is a blessed Scripture which We have revealed. So follow it and ward off (evil), that ye may find mercy. (155) Lest ye should say: The Scripture was revealed only to two sects before us, and we in sooth were unaware of what they read; (156) Or lest ye should say: If the Scripture had been revealed unto us, we surely had been better guided than are they. Now hath there come unto you a clear proof from your Lord, a guidance and mercy; and who doeth greater wrong than he who denieth the revelations of Allah, and turneth away from them? We award unto those who turn away from Our revelations an evil doom because of their aversion. (157) Wait they, indeed, for nothing less than that the angels should come unto them, or thy Lord should come, or there should come one of the portents from thy Lord? In the day when one of the portents from thy Lord cometh, its belief availeth naught a soul which theretofore believed not, nor in its belief earned good (by works). Say: Wait ye! Lo! We (too) are waiting. (158) Lo! As for those who sunder their religion and become schismatics, no concern at all hast thou with them. Their case will go to Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do. (159) Whoso bringeth a good deed will receive tenfold the like thereof, while whoso bringeth an ill-deed will be awarded but the like thereof; and they will not be wronged. (160) Say: Lo! As for me, my Lord hath guided me unto a straight path, a right religion, the community of Abraham, the upright, who was no idolater. (161) Say: Lo! my worship and my sacrifice and my living and my dying are for Allah, Lord of the Worlds. (162) He hath no partner. This am I commanded, and I am first of those who surrender (unto Him). (163) Say: Shall I seek another than Allah for Lord, when He is Lord of all things? Each soul earneth only on its own account, nor doth any laden bear another's load. Then unto your Lord is your return and He will tell you that wherein ye differed. (164) He it is Who hath placed you as viceroys of the earth and hath exalted some of you in rank above others, that He may try you by (the test of) that which He hath given you. Lo! Thy Lord is swift in prosecution, and Lo! He verily is Forgiving, Merciful. (165).
Here we go again: Islam and Christianity both state that if you don't "believe" their imaginary god will "blight, kill, mutilate, torture, destroy, punish, and obliterate the nonbeliever." Isn't that getting a little old and out of date for the 21st century? Why is it that all such religions have to threaten those who don't believe...Because, religion is a delusion, prayers, rolling beads around, hymn singing, bible/koran reading do not work...so the only thing that religions have left is to use punishment, blackmail, extortion, and threats against those who refuse to buy into such religious delusions.
This is so cool! is shows how even one of our own forefathers was a believer and felt that this nation should be built on Jesus. I love how intellectual Thomas Jefferson was, he even believed the bible was truth and obviously studied it hard core! Woohoo! Too bad all our politicians aren't like that now.
Amber,
Some words of wisdom in the Bible, sure... WITHOUT all the supernatural fantasies... that was Jefferson's goal here. Did you read the article.
@Amber
Sorry to burst your bubble, but that simply isn't so.
Jeffferson's Bible is, in Christian eyes, HERESY.
He cut vast swathes of what be believed to be nonsense and was left with a much thinner tome.
For example, he considered the Book of Revelations to be "merely the ravings of a maniac no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams."
He also said:
"It is not to be understood that I am with him (Jesus Christ) in all his doctrines. I am a Materialist; he takes the side of Spiritualism, he preaches the efficacy of repentance toward forgiveness of sin; I require a counterpoise of good works to redeem it."
and
"I have examined all the known supersti.tions of the Word, and I do not find in our particular supersti.tion of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men, women and children, since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the world."
@Magic,
Yes, I read the article.
@Doc Vestibule,
Well that stinks that he did that and believed those terrible things. I don't really want to make a quick judgment on him, I would like to study more on what he believed and such. No offense to you, but there have been a lot of comments from folks on these things that make statements thinking they are right and ranting on and on with utter nonsense towards God and the bible and how they somehow have the thinking that it's okay to bash them in such vulgar ways (not that you were vulgar, just some folks are and what they say disturbs me). Someone saying that one of my forefathers wasn't a Christian is huge, and I will need to look more into this. But thank you for the insight....I am putting it into deep consideration toward my view of Thomas Jefferson.
@Amber
That is the most gracious and rational response I have ever received on here.
I could hope for nothing more than what you have proposed to do – find out for yourself.
I think you'll notice a fair difference between Jefferson's personal correspondences and his public oratories – so please do read both.
All the best to you in your quest for knowledge!
Amber, some of them were Christian, some were not, the point back then was that we could all live together anyway. You know be free to do what we believe. In these threads that does not seem to hold true at all... The condemnations from both sides are overwhelming. Just thought I would offer a prespective that I have gained over the last year or so of reading these threads!
These are some of the things that Thomas Jefferson had to say about the religion you think he was a part of......
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" -Thomas Jefferson in a letter to John Adams
"The priests of the different religious sects dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight, and scowl on the fatal harbinger announcing the subdivision of the duperies on which they live."
I do and don't agree with you. I wish that more of our politicians were like Jefferson too. Atheists.
Well actually Amber, it wouldnt be "cool" if all our politicians thought that now, we would be a Christian Theocracy>
First let me state that I am a Christian. I wish that people (especially Christian's) would see the fruitless efforts in an online debate over the existence of God. Spend your time pouring into to someone personally or in prayer where your time does matter and stay out of the comment areas of news sites. It's a waste of everyones' time.
But you didn't stay out did you?
Why is a discussion of god's alleged existence fruitless? This is really a discussion of sanity vs insanity; or reality vs supernatural hogwash, or truthfulness vs religious delusions, or fact vs fiction, or logic vs religious magic, or brainwashing vs thinking for one's self, or historical facts vs myth writers. Seeking the truth is always a good endeavor, which is why the religious scream bloody murder and wish we wouldn't interrupt their delusions, myths, magic beliefs, con jobs, brainwashing, out right lies, and demands of belief based on punishment, threats, extortion, and blackmail if we don't....
Reality
Saving Muslims to include Muneef is quite easy!!!
The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)
Are you ready?
Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.
The First Five of the 77 Branches:
"1. Belief in Allah"
aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your cleansing neurons.
"2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."
Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".
"3. To believe in the existence of angels."
A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.
"4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."
Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.
Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.
Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.
"5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)
alone."
Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.
Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!
Analogous free for the asking programs are available for the Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews and Pagans.
March 14, 2011 at 8:56 am | Report abuse | Reply
SeanNJ,
Heheheh! I hear ya'. Maybe tomorrow Merriam-Webster will highlight, "perseveration"...
Saving Muslims to include Muneef is quite easy!!!
The Five Steps To Deprogram 1400 Years of Islamic Myths:
( –The Steps take less than two minutes to finish- simply amazing, two minutes to bring peace and rationality to over one billion lost souls- Priceless!!!)
Are you ready?
Using "The 77 Branches of Islamic "faith" a collection compiled by Imam Bayhaqi as a starting point. In it, he explains the essential virtues that reflect true "faith" (iman) through related Qur’anic verses and Prophetic sayings." i.e. a nice summary of the Koran and Islamic beliefs.
The First Five of the 77 Branches:
"1. Belief in Allah"
aka as God, Yahweh, Zeus, Jehovah, Mother Nature, etc. should be added to your cleansing neurons.
"2. To believe that everything other than Allah was non-existent. Thereafter, Allah Most High created these things and subsequently they came into existence."
Evolution and the Big Bang or the "Gi-b G-nab" (when the universe starts to recycle) are more plausible and the "akas" for Allah should be included if you continue to be a "crea-tionist".
"3. To believe in the existence of angels."
A major item for neuron cleansing. Angels/de-vils are the mythical creations of ancient civilizations, e.g. Hitt-ites, to explain/define natural events, contacts with their gods, big birds, sudden winds, protectors during the dark nights, etc. No "pretty/ug-ly wingy thingies" ever visited or talked to Mohammed, Jesus, Mary or Joseph or Joe Smith. Today we would classify angels as f–airies and "tin–ker be-lls". Modern de-vils are classified as the de-mons of the de-mented.
"4. To believe that all the heavenly books that were sent to the different prophets are true. However, apart from the Quran, all other books are not valid anymore."
Another major item to delete. There are no books written in the spirit state of Heaven (if there is one) just as there are no angels to write/publish/distribute them. The Koran, OT, NT etc. are simply books written by humans for humans.
Prophets were invented by ancient scribes typically to keep the un-educated masses in line. Today we call them for-tune tellers.
Prophecies are also invali-dated by the natural/God/Allah gifts of Free Will and Future.
"5. To believe that all the prophets are true. However, we are commanded to follow the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him)
alone."
Mohammed spent thirty days "fasting" (the Ramadan legend) in a hot cave before his first contact with Allah aka God etc. via a "pretty wingy thingy". Common sense demands a neuron deletion of #5. #5 is also the major source of Islamic vi-olence i.e. turning Mohammed's "fast, hunger-driven" hallu-cinations into horrible reality for unbelievers.
Walk these Five Steps and we guarantee a complete recovery from your Islamic ways!!!!
Analogous free for the asking programs are available for the Christians, Buddhists, Hindus, Jews and Pagans.
That was fabulous....thank you so much. I'm going to your post around the Internet....that was brilliant.
Al-Araf sura 07:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
I shall turn away from My revelations those who magnify themselves wrongfully in the earth, and if they see each token believe it not, and if they see the way of righteousness choose it nor for (their) way, and if they see the way of error choose if for (their) way. That is because they deny Our revelations and are used to disregard them. (146) Those who deny Our revelations and the meeting of the Hereafter, their works are fruitless. Are they requited aught save what they used to do? (147).
Al-Isra sura 17:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
On the day when We shall summon all men with their record, whoso is given his book in his right hand – such will read their book and they will not be wronged a shred. (71) Whoso is blind here will be blind in the Hereafter, and yet further from the road. (72) And they indeed strove hard to beguile thee (Muhammad) away from that wherewith We have inspired thee, that thou shouldst invent other than it against Us; and then would they have accepted thee as a friend. (73) And if We had not made thee wholly firm thou mightest almost have inclined unto them a little. (74).
Al-Furqan sura 25:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
On the day when the wrong-doer gnaweth his hands, he will say: Ah, would that I had chosen a way together with the messenger (of Allah)! (27) Alas for me! Ah, would that I had never taken such an one for friend! (28) He verily led me astray from the Reminder after it had reached me. Satan was ever man's deserter in the hour of need. (29) And the messenger saith: O my Lord! Lo! mine own folk make this Qur'an of no account. (30) Even so have We appointed unto every prophet an opponent from among the guilty; but Allah sufficeth for a Guide and Helper. (31).
Al-Muzzammil sura 73:
In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful
Lo! This is a Reminder. Let him who will, then, choose a way unto his Lord. (19).
Prove Allah exists...then we can talk about why I or anyone should believe in Allah.
In the name of Allah...if you don't believe in Allah you will be tortured and destroyed, but if you believe in Allah, another Moslem with a different view of Allah will kill you too. Oh well, so many Allahs, how much time do we have before the Nations of Islam figure out which is the right Allah? (Pssst...Xians have the same problem, there are to date 34,000 "versions" of god. I always ask Christians when they want me to "believe in god" which "version" of god do they recommend I believe in? I never get an answer.
Hey buddy, give it a rest, if you cant state your case in less than 4 short paragraphs, you should post a link.. .