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The Rev. Philip Egitto gives bikers what he calls "bike blessings" after an Ash Wednesday service in Daytona Beach, Florida.
March 12th, 2011
01:34 PM ET

Blessed are the bikers and their bikes

By John Couwels, CNN

I bless you in the name of BMW, Honda and Harley Davidson, amen, could have been the blessing from a local Catholic priest to bikers attending Bike Week in Daytona Beach, Florida.

Instead the Rev. Philip Egitto, pastor of Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church in Daytona, offered more traditional blessings for bikers and their motorcycles in the parish parking lot following Ash Wednesday services.

For Christians, Ash Wednesday marks the beginning of a 40-day period of reconciliation, fasting and abstinence. Christians are encouraged to attend services in which clergy place ashes in the shape of the cross on the forehead of a worshipper.

“As bikers, they deserve the same as everyone else,” said Egitto, who has been offering what he calls “bike blessings” since coming to the church 15 years ago. He said the prayers are “to bless their lives and their bikes.”

Beyond the blessings, Egitto said his parish of 400 families has always welcomed bikers with open arms.

“It’s about hospitality,” he said. “All are welcomed at our church to give him thanks and praise.”

This year Bike Week coincidentally fell on the same week as Ash Wednesday. Following the evening Ash Wednesday service, two couples pulled their motorcycles near the church vestibule, and Egitto prayed while the cyclists stayed on their bikes, still wearing their leather protective jackets, gloves and helmets.

Egitto sprinkled them with holy water, asking God to bless them and their bikes for a safe journey during Bike Week and on their return trip home.

A Tampa couple who received the blessing said they were grateful. Barbara Presnel, 55, with a black ash cross on her forehead after attending Catholic Mass, said she didn't realize that Ash Wednesday was the same week when she booked the trip to Daytona.

“I always observe Ash Wednesday,” Presnel said. “It’s an important day for me. I always pop into church and talk to God a little bit and get my ashes to get Lent off to a spiritual foot.”

Presnel said she felt it’s right to do so, especially during Bike Week.

“In the middle of all the craziness, I felt it was important to take a few moments out to count our blessings and to pray for the family,” she said.

- CNN Belief Blog

Filed under: Catholic Church • Christianity • Lent

soundoff (394 Responses)
  1. Dominus

    @HeavenScent...Your most welcome. I appreciate your efforts, and realize that you are trying to present the whole truth. Sometimes people have to know the good and the bad, especially when it involves thier soul, and where they will spend eternity. If it were as simple as you cease to be, after the mortal body dies, then nothing would matter. I often wonder why people think a car could run without gas, because they is the same as a body without a soul! God Bless You!

    March 18, 2011 at 6:58 am |
  2. LJ

    HS this will be my final post to you. I think your "salty" atti-tude would be best served if you got on the forums of the "New Age" sites. It's where I first learned the lessons of blogging, I fell into your style of posting. Yes, I was "salty" and unfortunately I lost my temper as well....to the point… I was blocked from posting on the site. LOL! If you want to see some really misguided Christians the "New Age" are the ones. Try to remember you loose the argument as soon as the personal insults are included in the comments. Yes, I am guilty of it. But, even you stated you stop listening, as I did with you. The thing to remember is you can't change what you are not willing to acknowledge. I think you will be a great benefit on the blogs if you toned down the negativity and focused more on the light. I was meant to cross your path at this juncture why God put us together I believe is to demonstrate that as Christians, we can't afford to be hypocrites within ourselves. Be well and goodbye.

    March 17, 2011 at 10:53 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, look up to the last post I wrote you. I was reading other posts when I sent you my farewells to you and they are above your last post.

      Peace.

      March 18, 2011 at 3:17 am |
  3. steve martin

    An amazing dialogue. Only in america is there so much time to waste and so little of substance to waste it on. Would Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln have wasted time and energy to so little purpose? No wonder America is a busted flush.

    March 16, 2011 at 8:41 am |
    • The Bobinator

      I don't know. I think getting our society past these childish concepts is very important.

      March 16, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • PeterVN

      @The Bobinator, I completely agree with you. Thanks for your posts, and especially for combating the smelly stuff that HeavenSent's loose outer sphincter keeps dumping here.

      March 16, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
    • Dominus

      @HeavenScent

      You keep right on posting these things Heaven Scent! Apparently you are getting to the heart of those who deny Christ. The word of God ia a two edged sword that cuts! I admire what you are doing here. These people need the WHOLE gospel, not just the cherry coated parts.
      It seems ok if the unbelievers want to post thier filth, calling people liars, saying thier delusional, and even blasphemy where God is concerned, but don't let a Christian come bearing truth, for they cannot take it. Any Christians that are here to take offense at your postings, probably aren't tru christians anyway. Its easy to hide behind thier anonymous status and dress up like Christinas, when it fact they are really impersonating to begin with.
      God Bless You and keep on bringing out the truth.
      Even if you came on here posting in all humility and gentleness, you would be cursed at and mocked for his namesake, just as they do now. If one soul turns away from thier lies and selfishness, then it is well worth it.
      Go for it! Kudos to you!

      March 17, 2011 at 8:05 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Dominus, thank you. I'm sure you are just as salty. I totally agree. Salty Christians interject scriptures that need to be known to save souls. Especially to the non-believers. Other Christians already know they are on the right track. Non-believers don't believe their is a track to be on. They are the ones that I am trying to reach and sprinkle His seed. Jesus will take of watering them.

      Peace.

      March 17, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
    • LJ

      "These people need the WHOLE gospel, not just the cherry coated parts." LOL! That is exactly what HS does too funny. LOL!

      March 17, 2011 at 9:05 pm |
    • LJ

      "Any Christians that are here to take offense at your postings, probably aren't tru christians anyway." The point you are both missing is HS post contains verbal abuse towards others using words that have absolutely nothing to do with the scriptures. If you can't see that then neither of you are Christians and are not practicing Christ's teachings.

      Another poster put this on another thread and I thought they said it well. "would also caution against cherry picking scriptures to prove a point – on either side of this or any issue. It is a slippery slope and, as everyone knows, you can make the Bible say anything you want with this practice. The Bible is meant to be read in its entirety, with an understanding of the type of writing, author, audience, purpose, history, customs, practices, etc."

      LOL!

      March 17, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Well, LJ, if you read previous articles (maybe 15 prior to this site), you'd see how Christians couldn't even talk with non-believers, they were insulting us and shouting down at us from the beginning. I figured, I would do the same to them, to allow them to feel the sting. I happened to post His scriptures along with my zings. Hey, if I had to stoop to their level to have His truth heard. So be it. I'm sure Jesus will forgive me for being salty in this day and age.

      His Peace be with you, and always with you.

      Amen.

      March 17, 2011 at 11:25 pm |
  4. David

    Could the reverend please bless my Moto Guzzi? Not the whole bike, just the #$#$#$# electrical system.

    March 16, 2011 at 1:40 am |
  5. faithwon

    I've read all the comments, but I don't see any comments about the actual article. My husband and I ride with CMA, Christian Motorcycle Association. Our organization s nationwide and ihas been around since 1975. Our mission is to help fellow bikers with acts of service and to show them the love of Jesus and share the Gospel, and we raise money each year through Run for the Son. A big part of what we do is the "Bike Blessing". You wouldn't believe how many bikers love having their bikes blessed and being prayed over. It's wonderful to be a part of it and to see the results. I've had bikers see my colors and stop me and say pray for me and this bike. It's wonderful to see God working in the biker community, and it's not just at rallies. We've also done blessings at hot dog and chili cookoffs, arenacross, etc. Reverend Egitto isn't affiliated with our organization, but I would think that he is understanding the need for Jesus in the world of bikers, and I know that he is understanding how amazing and rich it is to see Jesus working at daytona.

    March 15, 2011 at 9:28 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Amen. Keep the faith and keep on being free!

      March 16, 2011 at 2:37 am |
    • Dominus

      faithwon

      I've read all the comments, but I don't see any comments about the actual article. My husband and I ride with CMA, Christian Motorcycle Association. Our organization s nationwide and ihas been around since 1975. Our mission is to help fellow bikers with acts of service and to show them the love of Jesus and share the Gospel, and we raise money each year through Run for the Son. A big part of what we do is the "Bike Blessing". You wouldn't believe how many bikers love having their bikes blessed and being prayed over. It's wonderful to be a part of it and to see the results. I've had bikers see my colors and stop me and say pray for me and this bike. It's wonderful to see God working in the biker community, and it's not just at rallies. We've also done blessings at hot dog and chili cookoffs, arenacross, etc. Reverend Egitto isn't affiliated with our organization, but I would think that he is understanding the need for Jesus in the world of bikers, and I know that he is understanding how amazing and rich it is to see Jesus working at daytona.

      @FaithWon God Bless you and all bikers! I think what your all doing is wonderful. I know many bikers that have raised money for worthy causes, helping the poor, and feeding and clothing the less fortunate. Your rewards in Heaven will be great! Keep on bikin and prayin!

      March 17, 2011 at 8:11 am |
  6. Balen

    How many people with religious beliefs would continue to be good people if they knew there was no afterlife? No Kingdom in Heaven? No heavenly rewards? If you need religion to keep your morals in check then so be it. There are plenty of us who don't need a fairy tale of Hell to be good people. You don't need religion to be a good person. You just have to be a decent human being with a sincere desire to help your fellow man.

    Even if the religious fols are correct and there is a God, I would like to think that despite a lifetime of lacking faith in Him, God would not be so vain as to cast me down for lack of faith. Rather He would measure my worth for the good I have done and how I lived my life. If the main requirement is simply to have faith, then I would rather not be in Heaven with the murderers, rapists and child molesters that found their faith at the last minute. You religious folks can have that to yourselves.

    If there is a God and he denies me heaven for lack of faith then He is not deserving of my faith in the first place.

    March 15, 2011 at 4:57 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this moun- tain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.

      Matthew 17:20

      March 15, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
    • LJ

      1 Timothy 4:12
      Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity.

      HS I think you need to practice the "speech" + "Love" parts of the scriptures. LOL!

      March 15, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, "1 Timothy 4:12, Don't let anyone look down on you because you are young, but set an example for the believers in speech, in life, in love, in faith and in purity. HS I think you need to practice the "speech" + "Love" parts of the scriptures. LOL!"

      our so consumed with posting me, you haven't even written your LOVE scriptures ... which only provides a fraction of what Jesus teaches. You're like the phony preachers in the world, helping to send people to the eternal flames with their wimpy teachings of what man wants to hear, instead of needs to hear (Matthew 5:13). So much for your studies. You wasted your money.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 7:26 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      My cat walked across my keyboard. The word was suppose to be "you're".

      March 15, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
    • LJ

      What is so humorous about your continued postings is not only are you arguing with Atheist, you are arguing with Christians too. You are not supportive anything but yourself and that is why you are a lost soul, doomed for hell because you can't even recognize you have been taken over by Satan's ego.

      You are not a Christian since you do not practice the teaching of Christ.

      March 15, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
    • LJ

      "So much for your studies. You wasted your money." Another assumption again! I am absolutely loving this since all you continue to prove is when you read something you jump to assumptions, make quick judgments and don't comprehend what you are reading. Thank you for continually proving my point. LOL!

      Here's a hint...I didn't pay any money. LOL!

      March 15, 2011 at 9:20 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, SKIP.

      March 15, 2011 at 11:04 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Balen, here are some of my favorite scriptures pertaining to faith.

      For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think {of himself} more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.

      Romans 12:3

      Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of {our} faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

      Hebrews 12:2

      (22) And Jesus answering saith unto them, Have faith in God. (23) For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith. (24) Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive {them}, and ye shall have {them}.

      Mark 11:22-24

      For therein is the righteousness of God re- vealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

      Romans 1:17

      For we walk by faith, not by sight:

      2 Corinthians 5:7

      But without faith {it is} impossible to please {him}: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and {that} he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

      Hebrews 11:6

      (7) That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: (8) Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see {him} not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy un- speakable and full of glory: (9) Receiving the end of your faith, {even} the salvation of your {souls}.

      1 Peter 1:7-9

      For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, {even} our faith.

      1 John 5:4

      (20) And, behold, a woman, which was diseased with an issue of blood twelve years, came behind {him}, and touched the hem of his garment: (21) For she said within herself, If I may but touch his garment, I shall be whole. (22) But Jesus turned him about, and when he saw her, he said, Daughter, be of good comfort; thy faith hath made thee whole. And the woman was made whole from that hour.

      Matthew 9:20-22

      (28) And when he was come into the house, the blind men came to him: and Jesus saith unto them, Believe ye that I am able to do this? They said unto him, Yea, Lord. (29) Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.

      Matthew 9:28-29

      Jesus said unto him, If thou canst believe, all things {are} possible to him that believeth.

      Mark 9:23

      Peace.

      March 15, 2011 at 11:07 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, SKIP." Yes, you have to because Satan doesn't like it when it's being pointed out to the person. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 9:14 am |
    • PeterVN

      @HeavenSent, re mustard seed, yeah how about those big trees that the bi-ble says they grow into...Do you know that one?

      March 16, 2011 at 10:12 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Peter, is this the scripture you are referring to? There are many references to trees in His scriptures.

      Hosea 14:8 Ephraim [shall say], What have I to do any more with idols? I have heard [him], and observed him: I [am] like a green fir tree. From me is thy fruit found.

      The scripture above is the reason Christians have Christmas Trees for celebrating the day of His conception, December 25th.

      Peace.

      March 17, 2011 at 7:49 pm |
  7. brat

    Anytime there is a religion article, it always makes people gripe and argue.

    March 15, 2011 at 5:32 am |
  8. God_I_offer_myself_2_Thee

    God is Everything. I was a quasi-agnostic at one time. But I am now a Knower! I don't just believe, I Know God exists! He has performed Multiple Miracles in my life. I was only half alive before, my spiritual condition is the most important facet of my existence. I'm sorry you don't know God. He's waiting for you to ask Him to help you. And HE WILL! He may not give you what you want you but He will give you what you need and it will be better than anything you ever dreamed of! You have faith in other things you can't see and don't understand like like electrical charges on ions. You trust that somebody knows for fact but you've never seen it. I Know for a Fact that God is Everything!

    March 15, 2011 at 2:46 am |
    • The Bobinator

      > God is Everything. I was a quasi-agnostic at one time. But I am now a Knower! I don't just believe, I Know God exists!

      You do of course understand why no one can believe you on the claims of what you know right? I mean, it'd be silly for anyone to take your word for it. Just like how it'd be silly for me to believe someone who said "They know they're Napoleon."

      > He has performed Multiple Miracles in my life.

      Claimed by the bible, which has been shown to be wrong. I'd propose that peasants back then would be a poor measure between what is and isn't a miracle and a magic trick back then.

      > I was only half alive before, my spiritual condition is the most important facet of my existence.

      There's lots of things that make people happy. This works for you, great. But I prefer to know as much truth as possiible and as little nonsense as possible. To me, I care if the positions I hold are true.

      > I'm sorry you don't know God. He's waiting for you to ask Him to help you.

      So, I need to believe in a God to have him help me believe in him. Isn't that self fulfilling?

      > And HE WILL! He may not give you what you want you but He will give you what you need and it will be better than anything you ever dreamed of!

      Like how he gives starving children in Africa what they need? God's observable track record is questionable. Why does he only give to those who have so much already?

      > You have faith in other things you can't see and don't understand like like electrical charges on ions.

      Wow, that's so stupid I don't know what to say.

      > You trust that somebody knows for fact but you've never seen it. I Know for a Fact that God is Everything!

      You're scientifically illiterate and a tool. Just because you can't see something doesn't mean it's on faith. Wow.

      March 15, 2011 at 9:04 am |
  9. KeithTexas

    You guys crack me up. The loudest most obnoxious Christians do not have the spirit of the Savior you claim to follow and the Atheists are more God-centered than most Christians.

    You holier than thou Christians are going to be very upset when you see all those people that don't deserve to be there, when you get to heaven. You Atheist are going to be a bit confused but it is okay God believes in you so it isn't necessary for you to believe in him.

    March 15, 2011 at 12:44 am |
    • bp

      Assuming there even was a god I disagree we go to the same place. However your point is well meant and quite appreciated. I think this is the first thing I read from a christian that actually was christian in nature.

      March 15, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • The Bobinator

      > but it is okay God believes in you so it isn't necessary for you to believe in him.

      God if God exists doesn't believe in us. He knows about us and what we'll do, you know, being omniscient and all.

      March 15, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      The Bobinator, what you wrote is true. What get's me is why you constantly test being a heart that was created for the eternal flames when He give us free will to change that destiny.

      Peace.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:52 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      KeithTexas, the only Truth is what Jesus teaches. If you believe yourself to be god, you are fooling yourself all the way to the eternal flames along with satan lies that you follow. Jesus didn't send us down to earth, being born of woman, to go solo. He left us a blueprint (the Bible), how to know what He wants for us and what He wants from us. Reading His letter (the Truth of Life, on earth in human form and the hereafter) to be the best that He wants us to be and what He wants from us is comprehending His spiritual truth, allowing us to live spiritually, in this life, and in the hereafter.

      Amen.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:32 am |
    • The Bobinator

      > What get's me is why you constantly test being a heart that was created for the eternal flames when He give us free will to change that destiny.

      If God is omnipotent, he is omniscient. If God is omniscient, he knows the future. If God knows the future, then the past must be set in stone. If he created man knowing what they would do, we don't choose.

      Logic. Dispelling silly biblical assertations.

      March 17, 2011 at 8:09 am |
  10. JJ

    Have always been puzzled by the pop fascination with 'biker' culture. Watching dentists, accountants, and school teachers dress up in leathers like bada$$ outlaw gangs always makes me chuckle. The whole schtick strikes me as being little different than groups of boys (and a few of their molls) dashing about their neighborhood on bicycles in a noisy 'look at me' quest for attention.

    March 14, 2011 at 10:42 pm |
    • Dolly

      Don't know about the US, but where I live, people "dress up in leathers" and other bike gear for safety reasons, and ride for the enjoyment of of seeing things from a different perspective.

      Wouldn't it be great if all these bickering people on this message board could just believe or not believe without feeling the need to shove their beliefs/non-beliefs down other people's throats? Perhaps they should all get out on bikes and feel the wind on their faces 🙂

      March 15, 2011 at 10:44 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      JJ, if you ever get to ride, write back and let us know how freeing it is to your soul.

      Peace.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
  11. The Bobinator

    OOGA BOOGA, don't fall off your bike. OOGA BOOGA.

    March 14, 2011 at 5:00 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      Not to stand on ceremony, but shouldn't the second stanza be "OOGA BOOGA BOOGA?" I mean, we don't want god to get the wrong message and mislead a whole pack of these people into a bridge abutment on the interstate.

      March 14, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      Depends on the area. Here's how it goes in Ja-pan.

      Ooga Booga Boo
      Magic is prot-ecting you,
      Now give me your ti-the.

      They do not say the third part, because that would give away the whole scam.

      March 14, 2011 at 5:37 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      "Because you disdained all my counsel; and would have none of my rebuke, I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your terror comes, when your terror comes like a storm. . ." Proverbs 1:25-27.

      "Indeed, they belch with their mouth; swords are in their lips; For they say, 'Who hears?' But you, O Lord, shall laugh at them; You shall have all the nations in derision." Psalm 59:7-8 (Ps 37:13, 2:4).

      GOD WILL NOT BE MOCKED

      "Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap." Galatians 6:7.

      Amen.

      March 14, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
    • Thomas

      God may not be mocked. But when a Christian does the same thing to others, that makes them a hypocrite.

      March 14, 2011 at 10:11 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Thomas, I posted His scriptures. You're just too comfortable with getting your ego stroked on what preachers have been telling you what you want to hear instead of what you NEED to hear. Jesus has many facets to His truth. Not just love, to stroke you which doesn't prevent a sinner from sinning in the carnal flesh. You can skip over my post. I'm not making you stop to read anything of His truth, even if it will save your soul.

      Peace.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:45 pm |
    • LJ

      "Thomas, I posted His scriptures. You're just too comfortable with getting your ego stroked on what preachers have been telling you what you want to hear instead of what you NEED to hear. Jesus has many facets to His truth. Not just love, to stroke you which doesn't prevent a sinner from sinning in the carnal flesh. You can skip over my post. I'm not making you stop to read anything of His truth, even if it will save your soul."

      HS is having an ego moment, just ignore them, they are possessed with Satan's pride.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:53 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, DITTO. You can give up your sinful nature, it's simple. Just focus on reading Jesus' truth. The more you read and comprehend what you are reading, the more His truth takes over your carnal thinking and changes it to His spiritual thinking, believing, writings, actions.

      Peace.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:23 am |
    • LJ

      "You can give up your sinful nature, it's simple. Just focus on reading Jesus' truth. The more you read and comprehend what you are reading, the more His truth takes over your carnal thinking and changes it to His spiritual thinking, believing, writings, actions."

      You give up your sinful nature first. Satan be gone, leave the mind and ego of this lost soul. Jesus heal their mind and heart with your true love so they can comprehend and actually practice the true meaning of the scriptures.

      March 16, 2011 at 9:09 am |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, do you know how many brain cells you looses every time you toke?

      March 16, 2011 at 3:23 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, do you know how many brain cells you looses every time you toke?" You must know the answer since you are asking the question, that's scary. Jesus cleanse HS mind, fill their heart with respect and kindness. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:25 pm |
    • LJ

      It must have been a lie when you wrote you were going to skip over my posts. LOL!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      SKIP OVER THE STONED AND ST ......

      March 16, 2011 at 3:51 pm |
    • LJ

      "SKIP OVER THE STONED AND ST ......"

      Go, Satan! Leave now!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
  12. Reality

    Bikers of America,

    You, as with HeavenSent, have been conned but fear not help has arrived.

    From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

    Even now Catholic/Christian professors of theology are questioning the bodily resurrection of the simple, preacher man aka Jesus.

    To wit;

    From a major Catholic university's theology grad school white-board notes:

    "Heaven is a Spirit state or spiritual reality of union with God in love, without earthly – earth bound distractions.
    Jesus and Mary's bodies are therefore not in Heaven.

    Most believe that it to mean that the personal spiritual self that survives death is in continuity with the self we were while living on earth as an embodied person.

    Again, the physical Resurrection (meaning a resuscitated corpse returning to life), Ascension (of Jesus' crucified corpse), and Assumption (Mary's corpse) into heaven did not take place.

    The Ascension symbolizes the end of Jesus' earthly ministry and the beginning of the Church.

    Only Luke's Gospel records it. The Assumption ties Jesus' mission to Pentecost and missionary activity of Jesus' followers The Assumption has multiple layers of symbolism, some are related to Mary's special role as "Christ bearer" (theotokos). It does not seem fitting that Mary, the body of Jesus' Virgin-Mother (another biblically based symbol found in Luke 1) would be derived by worms upon her death. Mary's assumption also shows God's positive regard, not only for Christ's male body, but also for female bodies." "

    "In three controversial Wednesday Audiences, Pope John Paul II pointed out that the essential characteristic of heaven, hell or purgatory is that they are states of being of a spirit (angel/demon) or human soul, rather than places, as commonly perceived and represented in human language. This language of place is, according to the Pope, inadequate to describe the realities involved, since it is tied to the temporal order in which this world and we exist. In this he is applying the philosophical categories used by the Church in her theology and saying what St. Thomas Aquinas said long before him."
    http://eternal-word.com/library/PAPALDOC/JP2HEAVN.HTM

    The Vatican quickly embellished this story with a lot CYAP.

    Of course, we all know that angels are really mythical "pretty wingie talking thingies".

    With respect to rising from the dead, we also have this account:

    An added note: As per R.B. Stewart in his introduction to the recent book, The Resurrection of Jesus, Crossan and Wright in Dialogue,
    p.4
    "Reimarus (1774-1778) posits that Jesus became sidetracked by embracing a political position, sought to force God's hand and that he died alone deserted by his disciples. What began as a call for repentance ended up as a misguided attempt to usher in the earthly political kingdom of God. After Jesus' failure and death, his disciples stole his body and declared his resurrection in order to maintain their financial security and ensure themselves some standing."
    o p.168. by Ted Peters:
    "Even so, asking historical questions is our responsibility. Did Jesus really rise from the tomb? Is it necessary to have been raised from the tomb and to appear to his disciples in order to explain the rise of early church and the transcription of the bible? Crossan answers no, Wright answers, yes. "

    So where are the bones? As per Professor Crossan's analyses in his many books, the body of Jesus would have ended up in the mass graves of the crucified, eaten by wild dogs, with lime in a shallow grave, or under a pile of stones.

    March 14, 2011 at 3:39 pm |
    • Ooob

      your two sources for this information, are a vatican (1st antichrist) that was established in 313 AD, censored the bible till the 15th century, and murdered christians for being in posession of biblical texts. Vatican was created by rome because rome lost control of it's people through their pagan religion, because guess what, jesus destroyed religions. Then you have the writings of a man that were made in the 18th century. Seeing this as the case, how about you bring up the history of rome and the vatican, look into that and you will understand how short sighted your comment is.

      March 14, 2011 at 3:48 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      > your two sources for this information, are a vatican (1st antichrist) that was established in 313 AD, censored the bible till the 15th century, and murdered christians for being in posession of biblical texts.

      Prove it's the anti-christ and not some far fetched nonsense you dreamed up to satisfy your own personal beliefs, which of course must be absolutely correct.

      > Vatican was created by rome because rome lost control of it's people through their pagan religion, because guess what, jesus destroyed religions.

      How did Jesus destroy these religions? Why are their any religions left except Christianity, was Jesus imperfect? Did he make a mistake?

      > Then you have the writings of a man that were made in the 18th century. Seeing this as the case, how about you bring up the history of rome and the vatican, look into that and you will understand how short sighted your comment is.

      That's rich. You might want to do some research and not blindly assert things "because you have faith that they're true." If you're going to accuse of someone of being ignorant, you really shouldn't be in the same boat. Cause it makes you look like a moron.

      March 14, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
    • Jujubeans

      way too wordy

      March 14, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
    • Magic

      Jujubeans,

      Stay with fortune cookies and bumper stickers...

      March 14, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
    • Ooob

      Bobinator, it's called history, you should try it sometime. Here i will answer your ignorant questions with reason and logic.

      > Prove it's the anti-christ and not some far fetched nonsense you dreamed up to satisfy your own personal beliefs, which of course must be absolutely correct.
      A- It is my understanding that the book of revelations speaks of the vatican in great detail, without the exact word, vatican. It insinuates that it is the 1st antichrist. Try reading it.

      >How did Jesus destroy these religions? Why are their any religions left except Christianity, was Jesus imperfect? Did he make a mistake?
      A- He caused a massive falling away from pagan religions in the area of israel that rome ruled over using pagan religion as their rule of law, once again, try opening a history book.

      >That's rich. You might want to do some research and not blindly assert things "because you have faith that they're true." If you're going to accuse of someone of being ignorant, you really shouldn't be in the same boat. Cause it makes you look like a moron.
      A- As usual, the mentally ill person with a sore ego, brings up insults to refute a non-insulting and factually based post, just because he hates the facts.

      Conclusion- You are not educated, as is apparent by your comment. Thanks, buhbye.

      March 14, 2011 at 5:51 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Besides being a liar, you keep posting the same junk article after article even though many Christians have given you the answers to these scriptures.

      Try these scriptures on for size R.

      The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none who does good. (see also Psalm 53:1)

      Every single last person that rejects the truth of the Bible (Romans 1:18-25), and thus, the Truth of the Bible, God (John 14:6), will burn them forever in the lake of fire for hating Him so (Deuteronomy 32:39-41; Revelation 20:11-15). "not receive the love of the truth" (as in 2 Thessalonians 2:10). (2 Timothy 2:16-17)

      They will find themselves weeping and gnashing their teeth (e.g. Matthew 8:12; 22:1-14; 25;14-30; Luke 13:28).

      Why? Because, you are on the broad way (Matthew 7:13; 2 Peter 2:2; 2 Timothy 4:3). You have not the characteristic of Christ's sheep (John 10:5).

      How long, you simple ones, will you love simplicity? For scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge. (Proverbs 1:22)

      God rejects all those who stray from His word. It does not matter what the subject matter is. There is no salvation for any who heed not holy writ, as Psalm 119:21 proclaims,

      You rebuke the proud, the cursed, who stray from Your commandments.

      Proverbs 17:4 declares, An evildoer gives heed to false lips.

      The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one. (Psalm 14:2-3; 53:2-3).

      What man can live and not see death? (Psalm 89:48).

      This is because,

      all who behave unrighteously are an abomination to the Lord (Deuteronomy 25:16).

      This buds for you R.

      March 14, 2011 at 7:44 pm |
    • LJ

      Heaven Sent you are doing the same thing of those you claim are wrong. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO.

      March 14, 2011 at 10:09 pm |
    • Reality

      Keeping it short and to the point:

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      "Heaven is a Spirit state" as per JPII and Aquinas i.e. there can be no bodies. i.e. there was and never will be any physical resurrection/ascension of human bodies."

      And is it not ironical that JPII along with Aquinas are the ones who put meaning to the words "If Christ has not been raised, your faith is useless."

      March 15, 2011 at 7:53 am |
    • The Bobinator

      > Bobinator, it's called history, you should try it sometime. Here i will answer your ignorant questions with reason and logic.

      Highly doubtful.

      > A- It is my understanding that the book of revelations speaks of the vatican in great detail, without the exact word, vatican. It insinuates that it is the 1st antichrist. Try reading it.

      How is that logic again? Oh wait, it's not. So just one sentence past your claim and you're not living up to your promise.

      > He caused a massive falling away from pagan religions in the area of israel that rome ruled over using pagan religion as their rule of law, once again, try opening a history book.

      If Jesus was preforming God's will, did God only want some of the pagan religions destroyed? If not, how can he claim he wants everyone to know the truth. If so, he failed. Try thinking about what people ask.

      > A- As usual, the mentally ill person with a sore ego, brings up insults to refute a non-insulting and factually based post, just because he hates the facts.

      You have not presented any facts. Either you're unaware what facts are and are mentally challenged or you're a troll.

      > Conclusion- You are not educated, as is apparent by your comment. Thanks, buhbye.

      Conclusion, you're a troll or a moron. Doens't matter which IMO.

      March 15, 2011 at 8:58 am |
    • Reality

      "Nineteenth-century agnostic Robert G. Ingersoll branded Revelation "the insanest of all books".[30] Thomas Jefferson omitted it along with most of the Biblical canon, from the Jefferson Bible, and wrote that at one time, he "considered it as merely the ravings of a maniac, no more worthy nor capable of explanation than the incoherences of our own nightly dreams." [31]

      Martin Luther "found it an offensive piece of work" and John Calvin "had grave doubts about its value."[32]

      March 15, 2011 at 10:37 am |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, since you haven't figured this out yet. I stand for Jesus. What do you stand for besides not allowing Jesus truth to be heard?

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 4:13 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Reality ... my answers AGAIN to this same question you post on every article.

      Keeping it short and to the point:

      From that famous passage: In 1 Corinthians 15 St. Paul reasoned, "If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith."

      Answer: I answered you already on another article post. Here is the answer AGAIN. If you do not believe that Christ died and was resurrected to Heaven, then you are a non-believer. That’s the category that you are in RealityNOT.

      Believers of Jesus know this happened and we follow His Truth.

      "Heaven is a Spirit state" as per JPII and Aquinas i.e. there can be no bodies. i.e. there was and never will be any physical resurrection/ascension of human bodies."

      Answer: Heaven is a spirit state. Non of get to heaven until our souls leave this body and go back to Him who created us. You can not take your physical body to Heaven. Only your soul, along with the spirit, which is the intellect of the soul goes to Heaven.

      And is it not ironical that JPII along with Aquinas are the ones who put meaning to the words "If Christ has not been raised, your faith is useless."

      Answer: Again Reality, because you do NOT believe, you have NO faith. Therefore, not only is your non-belief useless, your soul depends on learning His truth in the Bible.

      We (Christians) believe and have faith in Jesus. Therefore, our faith is not only USEFUL, it is EVERYTHING because it is knowing, comprehending, abiding in Jesus Christ.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
    • LJ

      You don't stand for Jesus, you are possessed by Satan's ego. Nothing more. You are not righteous in the least, your cynicism proves it.

      March 15, 2011 at 5:53 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Robert Green "Bob" Ingersoll (August 11, 1833 – July 21, 1899)

      Thomas Jefferson (April 13, 1743 – July 4, 1826)

      Martin Luther (November 10, 1483 – February 18, 1546)

      John Calvin (July 10, 1509 – May 27, 1564)

      All could have read the Book of Revelation, however, this book is for the last generation when Jesus returns to the earth, not the generations that these men lived. That’s why, most likely the Book of Revelation was confusing to them. Events that are written in the Book of Revelation didn’t transpire yet. The last generation is our generation that we live in today, hence why it makes sense to us when reading the Book of Revelation which means to reveal what is going to happen in end times.

      God unveils His truth as time passes. The men listed above were not living in the generation that God unveiled the truth of the Book of Revelation to them (e.g., what would they think of written descriptions of Microwave ovens? Fast food restaurants? CDs? Computers? etc.) They'd probably think the descriptions of these items "insane" too.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 5:56 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, keep preaching your love messages and not telling people ALL of Jesus truth that is needed to save their souls. What? You'd rather have people's souls fry in the eternal fires because you are stuck on one thought process?

      March 15, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
    • LJ

      HS –
      You are not saving anyone’s soul here HS that is EXACTLY the point. You are not going to bring anyone to Jesus to be saved, to love him, when you are so full of negativity! You are here to try and prove you know the scriptures, so what – that’s ego. . You are not bringing anyone to Christ to have them become saved through your cynical approach. . I have brought many people to Christ, and that is through love radiating within me, the light inside me. It’s Christians like you that are giving Christianity a bad name and continue to push people away, especially if they don’t agree with you.

      March 15, 2011 at 6:15 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Ooob, great post about Jesus' truth. Remember to include Cain, seed of satan who started all those false religions when he fled to Nod after killing his brother Abel, ripping off Jesus' truth in the Bible. Generations of Cain's children have continued on the legacy of their father and grandfather (satan), spreading lies about Jesus twisting and contorting Jesus' truth.

      Peace.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:33 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, I'm more than willing to share postings on this site. Any time you are ready to post what you know about Jesus. Free will. Remember. Post.

      P.S. Get over your obsession of insisting you are going to tell me off. I'm not a wishy washy Christian that teaches that Jesus is only about love, so folks don't know what to do to save their souls.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:38 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, I'm more than willing to share postings on this site. Any time you are ready to post what you know about Jesus. Free will. Remember. Post." That's the point HS people aren't reading it, you are only proving your are one of those crazy bible thumpers that only cares that they are right. Playing the scripture game is like playing the experts game, you can take snippets of scriptures to make it fit without understanding the true meaning of what is written. If you actually have followed my post you would have seen that the way I approach those that are different than me, I slowly bring them to my point. I don't slam them that they are going to hell if they don't agree with me. I have actually have Atheist thank me for my patience and showing them the true meaning of spirituality. Can you say the same, I think not.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:49 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, as I said, post anyway you want to post. I was making a point to those that want to butt heads with Christians and still not listen. You don't comprehend what I was doing. That's too bad. Now, go post the way you want to post and I will post the way I want to post and if it still bugs you how I write His truth, too bad. Get over yourself.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:11 am |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ doesn't want to give up her sinful nature so she constantly post to me instead of posting any of Jesus' truth. Oh, that's right, she buys into the lies of man "love the sinner, not the sin". Lies that will send her and others that believe this propaganda baloney slipping and sliding all the way down, down, down.

      It's your soul. You always had free will to do with you want. Just as Jesus has free will to deal with you after you leave this earth.

      2 Choices with that free will gift of His. Learn His spiritual truth that will save your soul here on earth, as well as in Heaven to live eternally with Jesus, or stay stuck and blinded by carnal sin, buying into satan's lies that will surely give you that free ticket to the eternal flames with him.

      Amen.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:19 am |
    • LJ

      "LJ doesn't want to give up her sinful nature so she constantly post to me instead of posting any of Jesus' truth. Oh, that's right, she buys into the lies of man "love the sinner, not the sin". Lies that will send her and others that believe this propaganda baloney slipping and sliding all the way down, down, down." Another assumption and false judgment! Jesus save HS mind and soul, free them from Satan's grip. Satan become, leave HS's ego now!

      March 16, 2011 at 9:07 am |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, why don’t you post more lyrics to the song written by Brian Littrell, Mark Kibble, Dave Thomas. Crank up that volume.

      March 16, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, why don’t you post more lyrics to the song written by Brian Littrell, Mark Kibble, Dave Thomas. Crank up that volume." More assumptions that you actually think I know who these people are, another false judgment. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      SKIP OVER THAT STONER.

      March 16, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
    • LJ

      "HeavenSent

      SKIP OVER THAT STONER"

      Another assumption. Go, Satan!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:52 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, you wrote to my post “LJ, Heaven Sent you are doing the same thing of those you claim are wrong. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO. EGO.”

      Do you realize I posted Jesus‘ wisdom? So, who are you mocking?

      Amen.

      March 18, 2011 at 4:18 am |
  13. HeavenSent

    Magic, watches the 3 Stooges and didn't remember Curly's saying "tried to think, but nothing worked". Woo, woo.

    March 14, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      Except that we understand your arguments and dismiss them for the nonsense that they are. Woo woo woo woo.

      March 14, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      I'll post this again Just for you Bob.

      The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none who does good. (see also Psalm 53:1)

      Every single last person that rejects the truth of the Bible (Romans 1:18-25), and thus, the Truth of the Bible, God (John 14:6), will burn them forever in the lake of fire for hating Him so (Deuteronomy 32:39-41; Revelation 20:11-15). "not receive the love of the truth" (as in 2 Thessalonians 2:10). (2 Timothy 2:16-17)

      They will find themselves weeping and gnashing their teeth (e.g. Matthew 8:12; 22:1-14; 25;14-30; Luke 13:28).

      Why? Because, you are on the broad way (Matthew 7:13; 2 Peter 2:2; 2 Timothy 4:3). You have not the characteristic of Christ's sheep (John 10:5).

      How long, you simple ones, will you love simplicity? For scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge. (Proverbs 1:22)

      God rejects all those who stray from His word. It does not matter what the subject matter is. There is no salvation for any who heed not holy writ, as Psalm 119:21 proclaims,

      You rebuke the proud, the cursed, who stray from Your commandments.

      Proverbs 17:4 declares, An evildoer gives heed to false lips.

      The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one. (Psalm 14:2-3; 53:2-3).

      What man can live and not see death? (Psalm 89:48).

      This is because,

      all who behave unrighteously are an abomination to the Lord (Deuteronomy 25:16).

      Amen.

      March 14, 2011 at 7:41 pm |
    • LJ

      HS have you ever heard of CRS disease? Obviously you think posting the same thing over and over again will drive home the point....NOT! All that does is prove you have a HUGE ego!

      March 14, 2011 at 10:08 pm |
    • Aaron

      "They have all turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one."

      I like the not one part. It's ironic that the poster of this comment didn't even take into consideration that it states not one, which means it also includes them. Pitiful.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:50 am |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, I don't have CRS or DRS. You however, have "I DON'T KNOW WHAT GOD WANTS FROM US AND FOR US" for not reading the Bible on my own.

      You may have attended Church to learn about God, but, it's not the same as picking up your Bible, opening the pages and reading to learn about Jesus truth. Your soul depends on it. You protest to much! Too bad I'd rather ruffle your feathers and see you save yourself than to continue believing all the lies flying around the world about Him and against Him.

      Aaron, I'm glad that you know how to copy and paste my former posts. I know those scriptures and I am doing what is righteous. I'm telling you His truth. So, time for you to save yourself and read the Bible on your own. Your soul too, relies on you knowing everything Jesus wants for us and from us in order to be saved.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 4:05 pm |
    • LJ

      HS – Just more continued assumptions on your part and more cynicism firmly planted in your ego. You’re the one who has answered almost every post on this thread, you are the one protesting too much and that makes you a hypocrite…again. . Why don’t you practice what you are preaching go read your bible and do your soul some good.

      March 15, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, I happen to be a salty Christian that writes about ALL of Jesus' truth. Not like the wimpy Christians that write only part of Jesus' truth of being love. Only knowing that Jesus is love, doesn't stop His children from going to the eternal flames. If you don't comprehend this truth. Your soul, as well as others, is in jeopardy. Not mine, I know His true and I fear the Lord with all my being. Fear the Lord means to begin learning His wisdom. Not shake in your boots over what He is. Actually, you should shake in your boots for not learning ALL about Him that created you and every thing (I AM what I AM, not what you want Him to be). Posting what strokes one's ego is done all the time in this world. Posting what one needs to know benefits them, even if it ruffles your feathers. I'd rather ruffle your feathers to get your attention to His truth, than not.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:19 pm |
    • LJ

      "know His true and I fear the Lord with all my being. Fear the Lord means to begin learning His wisdom. Not shake in your boots over what He is. Actually, you should shake in your boots for not learning ALL about Him that created you and every thing."

      YES! Thanks for continuing show your assumptions are the doom of you, they are Satan's ego. Seriously, maybe you need to find a preacher to help you. You seemed to consumed to know the difference now.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, you know the sins that bind you to this world. Learn His truth about Life, why we are here and the hereafter to save your soul. Or, don't. Other than that, your sin of Pride is blinding you from reading, comprehending and abiding in His truth. You don't like what I write. It's simple. Skip over my posts. That way, you can stay in la-la-land with your sinful nature and think Jesus is going to love and save you anyway. It's your choice. Do as He says, not want you want to do and then try to convince others Jesus' loves you just the way you are because that's a sure way to the eternal flames. Jesus is perfect and He wants ALL his children to be perfect like Him. Get it?

      March 16, 2011 at 1:42 am |
    • LJ

      "That way, you can stay in la-la-land with your sinful nature and think Jesus is going to love and save you anyway. " Another assumption and false judgment. Satan be gone and leave HS ego!

      March 16, 2011 at 9:03 am |
    • LJ

      "Other than that, your sin of Pride is blinding you from reading, comprehending and abiding in His truth." Actually, I know you are wrong and making a false judgment. I gave this discussion over to God awhile ago, which is why nothing you say "ruffles my feathers." So, I prayed asked if I should continue with such a narrow minded person and I got my answer. LOL! I was in the hardware store looking at water fountains and this women comes down the isle. You could tell she was radiant with God's love and peace. She stops right near me and breaks out in song.

      Jesus Loves You

      All my life I've heard Him say
      Jesus loves you!
      I dropped down on my knees to pray
      Jesus loves you!
      I asked Him to come into me
      Jesus loves you!
      From Him He gives eternity

      Jesus loves you (yes He does)
      Jesus loves you (yes He does)
      Jesus loves you (yes He does)
      For the Bible tells us so

      You need to look inside yourself
      Jesus loves you!
      You can't take with you all your wealth
      Jesus loves you!
      He will give to you an inner strength
      Jesus loves you!
      He walked on water but you will sink

      Jesus loves you! Jesus loves you! Jesus loves you! Oh!
      For the Bible tell us so

      Said He's the One that died for me
      Jesus loves you!
      And that's the reason I believe
      Jesus loves you!
      And He has done the same for you
      Jesus loves you!
      So watch and see what He can do

      Watch and see what he can do.... LOL!

      I thanked her for the tune and thanked God for my answer. I know I am fine with God can you say the same? Or are you going to continue to bash even the Christian posters here with your nonsense of self righteousness?

      Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 10:45 am |
    • The Bobinator

      > I'll post this again Just for you Bob.

      But I already refuted those points. The intelligent thing to do would be to show me where I made a mistake.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, I'm glad you like music written by Brian Littrell, Mark Kibble, Dave Thomas.

      March 16, 2011 at 3:11 pm |
    • LJ

      "HeavenSent

      LJ, I'm glad you like music written by Brian Littrell, Mark Kibble, Dave Thomas." It was a total stranger that sang that song, so I didn't know who had written it. More assumptions. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:13 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Twisted ...

      Ole Satan Be Gone! Words and music: Charles Davis Lead: C.D. Davis, Charles Davis, and Dale Underwood.

      Pray to all your song writers. Whewwwwwwwwwww.

      March 16, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
    • LJ

      "Twisted ...

      Ole Satan Be Gone! Words and music: Charles Davis Lead: C.D. Davis, Charles Davis, and Dale Underwood.

      Pray to all your song writers. Whewwwwwwwwwww."

      LOL! Satan does get jealous when he gets challenged. Go, Satan!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:50 pm |
  14. Ooob

    Wow there are a whole lot of atheists in these comments pushing their beliefs on christians.... It seems to me they are very insecure about the whole God thing. Best of luck to you atheists, and God Bless you.

    March 14, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      > Wow there are a whole lot of atheists in these comments pushing their beliefs on christians.... It seems to me they are very insecure about the whole God thing. Best of luck to you atheists, and God Bless you.

      That's what we call transferrence. You're actually the one that's insecure, so you make believe that we're actually the ones insecure.

      You see, I could care less what you privately believe. As far as I'm concerned, you can believe in whatever nonsense you want to concern yourself with. However, when you tell me what I can and can't do based on your idiotic beliefs, then we have a problem.

      Your ideas on what is right and wrong is based on what a book tells you is the case. My morals are based on real world observation and defendable concepts. There's a difference there. Yours is slammed into your brain. Mine requires thought.

      As such, my ideas are defensable and reasonable while yours are not. True, biblical teachings may coincide with reality from time to time, however, taking anything as truth without a thought process is an intellectually vapid position to take.

      March 14, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
    • Evolved DNA

      We are far from insecure..we just want proof before we will accept certain views.. that all. You may even find its not even the god you believe in that will bless us. You will never know.

      March 14, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
    • Ooob

      You guys seem to care a whole lot about something you dont care about. Let me guess..... it's interfering with your life or something right? It's forcing you to spend all your time in the belief blog on cnn of all things. right? yeah.... good luck with that. 🙂

      March 14, 2011 at 5:46 pm |
    • Evolved DNA

      Ooob.. travel much.. you will find bibles in most hotel rooms, notice how many christian stores there are , Churches all over the place, billboards proclaiming your belief... please let me know who many atheist signs you see..No it is you who is are pushing your views.. and we do care.. religion is insidious and works its way into our every day lives.. for the most part it is totally inert, but there are times we have to speak up. For most of the last 2000 years you have had the stage to yourselves ..as to speak against the church was a terminal event. Maybe It is frustrating for you to have to explain what before was just accepted by society.

      March 14, 2011 at 7:15 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Evolved DNA, how many times does a Christian have to tell you the proof. Look in the mirror. Proof. You exist. Now, you'll say, my mom and dad created me. OK, then who created them, then your grandparents, keep going back to the beginning of time. Oh, yes. God created them in Genesis, on the 6th day.

      Then, every day you wake up, what do you see? The sun, the lawn, the flowers, the trees, drive to the ocean, the streams, lakes, the mountains, rain, clouds, etc. The later part of the day you see the night, the moon, stars. Oh, I suppose you think science created them (LOL). Just because you have no respect for God, doesn't mean He didn't create ALL.

      Peace.

      March 14, 2011 at 7:38 pm |
    • Evolved DNA

      Heavensent.. Telling us the proof is the problem you always been doing that... you cannot show any. You do not understand what evidence is so you are going around in circles..And using your analogies who made god.. Mr and Mrs God had to come from somewhere.. and then their mummy and daddy and so on you see the problem..

      March 14, 2011 at 8:54 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Evolved DNA,

      Knock, knock.

      Who's there?

      God.

      God who?

      God who created you and wants you to stop your nonsense so you can learn why I made ALL, why you are here, what I want from you and for you.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
    • Evolved DNA

      Heavensent.. the last time Jesus heard Knock ,Knock he had a bad day........How can you even expect to be taken seriously when you are unable to offer any proof...remember you may think you are a child of god, but to be childish for god....and oh yes.. ask god where he came from next time he talks to you.

      March 16, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Evolved, In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

      John 1:1

      1Thessalonians 5:5-10

      5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
      6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
      7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
      8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
      9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
      10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

      Amen.

      March 17, 2011 at 11:39 pm |
    • Evolved DNA

      heaven sent.. like I said.. you still have no proof... I could quote from the Life of Brian and claim it true.

      March 18, 2011 at 10:45 am |
  15. Peter F

    It always excites me when God breaks out of the traditional setting and shines his light on the unexpected people groups... 🙂

    March 14, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
    • Magic

      Magical thinking is quite seductive for many people.

      March 14, 2011 at 2:55 pm |
  16. Jujubeans

    Ah, bike week in the 80s! Bikes, beer and breasts!

    March 14, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
  17. Gary S.

    To "CW"...
    Although I'm not an atheist, I do question a lot of Christianity's "written in stone" beliefs. It's good to know however, that you live by the Word. I trust you don't have any tattoos, do not eat meats from cloven-hoofed animals and have never enjoyed a tasty lobster. Most of all it's good to know that you, CW, do not pass judgement on others, as you know that is exclusively The Lord's right to do. Your posting shines the light of truth on your inner soul...God help you.

    March 14, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
    • Paul M

      Gary, that is so funny. CW and Heaven Sent need to read the bible more and especially the words of Jesus Christ...Even tho i'm not a xian i have tried to make myself familiar with most of the main stream religious writings and for the most part they try to preach the word of peace and kindness for ones fellow man. These two need a lesson in humility...

      March 14, 2011 at 12:33 pm |
    • CW

      @ Gary & Paul,

      Oh...the judging card comes out ehh? So if a duck is called a duck then I'm judging right....Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! By the way I'm not passing anything....what I pointed out was what I have read with my own eyes many many times enough to know without a shadow of a doubt...unless these people were lying..that the items I said were truth.

      By the way I have read the word of God and as I recall Jesus confronted the pharisees and sadducees for their beliefs many times.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      > By the way I have read the word of God and as I recall Jesus confronted the pharisees and sadducees for their beliefs many times.

      By the way, I have read the word of God, assuming of course that it wasn't written by men who claimed to be God, just like thousands of other religions.

      Fixed it for you. You're welcome.

      March 14, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Gary, you've obviously never read His truth because you're listening to false preachers that say not to judge. Of course, they are misrepresenting Jesus truth for their own benefit. If we judged them as the wolves in sheep's clothing that they are, they wouldn't have their jobs of falsely preaching to the choir.

      esus tells us that we MUST discern whether someone is righteous, knowing His truth, versus those that are too lazy to read His truth.

      Judging Is Believing.

      Yes, and why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right? (Luke 12:57)

      What is right?

      The statutes of the Lord are right (Psalm 19:8).

      False Christians (and others) often tell us it is not right to judge. Some fools hypocritically condemn us for judging (Luke 6:37), and they all hypocritically judge that we judge.1 When we identify false beliefs which lead both themselves and those who follow them to hell, when we declare others as on their way to hell, and especially when we warn them they are lost, we often hear these words (or the equivalent), "Judge not" (Matthew 7:1). Yet, these words are exactly why we judge.

      Jesus said,

      Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. (Matthew 7:1-2)

      Jesus also said,

      Judge not, and you shall not be judged. Condemn not, and you shall not be condemned. (Luke 6:37a-b)

      We take these words very seriously. They literally scare us. In fact, we are terrified of them (Psalm 119:120; Isaiah 66:2). We do not want to be judged by our "measure" as Christ warns in Matthew 7:1-2, because we know we fall short (Romans 3:23); and our measure is guaranteed to be faulty (Psalm 16:2).

      Moreover, we desire not to be judged as the Lord says in Luke 6:37a. We also desire not to be condemned as Jesus promises in Luke 6:37b. Therefore, we strive, in the fear of God, to be certain to never judge and never condemn anyone.

      This is why we have chosen to write and speak solely in accordance with God's judgments2 and Yehvah's condemnations, as it is written,

      With my lips I have declared all the judgments of Your mouth. (Psalm 119:13)

      Everyone judges. No matter who you are, you make judgments every day. The most complacent judge there is nothing to be concerned about (Zephaniah 1:12). The most paranoid judge there is trouble everywhere (Proverbs 28:1). Everyone judges and makes judgments concerning their surroundings and those around them. Those with the mind of Christ judge according to Christ (1 Corinthians 2:15-16).3 Those with a mind of their own (Isaiah 65:2) judge according to their own and are among those described in Isaiah 5:20-21.

      Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!

      Amen.

      March 14, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
    • Aimee

      It's not so much as judging as loving Heaven Sent. You have lost your ability to love your fellow human beings. You have lost your ability to be humble. You have lost you ability to turn the other cheek. You are lost and need to seek Christ's guidance and allow the holy spirit to fill your heart with love. You are only coming off as a bitter old women, who has gone senile in their mind by reading the bible too long and not dealing with reality, the reality of dealing with others that walk a different path to life. All you are doing is showing you are not as loving and forgiving as the God you claim to love.

      March 14, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      I think I know the problem with HeavenSent. He hasn't intelligently figured out that different people reading the bible can arrive on different conclusions. He figures that anyone who doesn't agree with him must "Not have read the bible."

      Sorry heaven, I have read the bible. I find it intellectually childish, demonstratably false and contains inconsistent messages.

      I read the bible as it is. You read it with rose coloured glasses. I am willing to accept there is a God when evidence is presented. For you, no evidence could be presented that would cause you to reject a God.

      I'm objective. You're biased.

      March 15, 2011 at 12:21 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Gary S, Christians do eat meat from animals with cloven hooves. Leviticus 11:3,4. Any food that isn't kosher, is a sin against our bodies, not against Jesus. Big difference, eat a buzzard who is a scavenger and you eat all the deed rotting flesh of animals killed, will make a person sick.

      Christians discern whether someone knows Jesus' truth and if they don't, we show them His truth. All of it. Not just the stroking of man's egos that God loves you and hence, allows them to continue sinning. Christians who have read His truth will not allow you to destroy your soul. Read the Bible on your own to learn what Jesus wants for us and from us.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 3:15 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      The Bobinator, reading the Bible with your ego rejecting His truth is NOT reading His truth. Only those that allow their egos to rule their life has a problem with His truth. It's your soul that depends on reading (while going humble, meaning to shelf your ego of what you know in this world), comprehending what you've read (in His blueprint how to live life while housed in the flesh, the Bible), applying (abiding) His wisdom to your life to conduct His righteousness in your decisions is what counts. What you think without accepting His truth, counts for nothing. Either you love and follow Jesus (truth), or you love and follow satan (lies). Free will. Choose wisely because your soul depends on it. Stop thinking Jesus is a fairy tale. He is the reason ALL exist. Learn this truth and you will live spiritually while house in human form on earth ... as your spirit will live with Him eternally after we leave this human form.

      Peace.

      March 15, 2011 at 3:24 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Aimee, you protest too much. Why is that? Do you want others that reject Jesus' truth going to the eternal flames? If not, stop preaching Jesus is just love and that's all they need to know. That is a lie and that is being a false Christian that has never read His truth in the Bible.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
    • Steve

      Heaven Sent are you one of those WBC people because you sure sound like it. That cult believes they know the truth, they believe what they are doing is righteous, that you will burn in hell if you don't do believe as they do. But, we all know they are simply a bunch of misguided people filled with hatred for those that don't agree with them. It's sick and so far from Christ.

      March 15, 2011 at 9:12 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Steve, what is a WBC? I'm a Mark 9:50 Christian that is posting what I know about Jesus. I'm not a wishy washy Christian that posts that God is love and that's all you know and to love the sinner, not the sin. That is not written anywhere in the Bible. Keep sinning and your soul spiritually dies, down here on earth as well as in Heaven. There are enough of those phony preachers out there preaching man what he wants to hear, instead of preaching Jesus' truth, all of His truth and all that He is. The more a person knows about Jesus, the more they understand what Jesus wants for us and what He wants from us. He wants our love and He wants us to read His letter He wrote to ALL of us (the Bible, aka His blueprint) how to be the best that He wants us to be while housed in human form down on earth, as well as in the hereafter (spiritually with Him for eternity).

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:06 pm |
    • LJ

      "'m not a wishy washy Christian that posts that God is love and that's all you know and to love the sinner, not the sin. " Again I dare you to post this on any Churches website that are against gays and see what happens. Come on now...take on the pope, I dare you.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:24 pm |
    • LJ

      Oh, and please make the ASSUMPTION that I am a catholic, come on now you can do it.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      What I do know about you LJ, is you are a pest, besides being a sinner with your carnal mindset loving to sin. You own what you are. As for what I said, love the sinner, hate the sin is made up by man. It is NOT in the Bible. It's made up so that sinners can continue sinning, because they crave the lust of the flesh. If you have a problem with that. Too bad. As for the Pope and the Catholic church, that made up nonsense doesn't come from Rome.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:30 am |
    • LJ

      "What I do know about you LJ, is you are a pest, besides being a sinner with your carnal mindset loving to sin." Another assumption, another false judgment Satan be gone!.

      March 16, 2011 at 9:01 am |
    • John

      Heaven Sent

      Luke 6:27-36
      But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.
      If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ love those who love them. And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even ‘sinners’ lend to ‘sinners,’ expecting to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

      March 16, 2011 at 11:11 am |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, it's been several days that you've been on my tail upset that you can't have this blog run your way. I'm waiting for your posts on Jesus' truth. Oh, that's right. You're not hear to post scriptures, your here to be a pest and bark about any truth of Jesus' scriptures I should post. Too bad for you LJ. I'll post His truth and nothing of man's nonsense that you are so comfortable with. Remember, love the sinner, not the sin is NOT in the Bible. It's made up to stroke your ego while you refuse to give up your sinful ways.

      March 16, 2011 at 3:00 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, it's been several days that you've been on my tail upset that you can't have this blog run your way. I'm waiting for your posts on Jesus' truth. Oh, that's right. You're not hear to post scriptures, your here to be a pest and bark about any truth of Jesus' scriptures I should post. Too bad for you LJ. I'll post His truth and nothing of man's nonsense that you are so comfortable with. Remember, love the sinner, not the sin is NOT in the Bible. It's made up to stroke your ego while you refuse to give up your sinful way"

      More assumptions and false judgment wow you are really racking them up today. Other Christians have only posted scriptures and you have attacked them. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:05 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, do you ever draw a sober breath these days? While you are at it, change your CD to the next track.

      Ole Satan Be Gone! Words and music: Charles Davis Lead: C.D. Davis, Charles Davis, and Dale Underwood.

      March 16, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, do you ever draw a sober breath these days? While you are at it, change your CD to the next track.

      Ole Satan Be Gone! Words and music: Charles Davis Lead: C.D. Davis, Charles Davis, and Dale Underwood."

      LOL! Keep the slamming me proving you are not in control. Satan be gone, leave HS now!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:46 pm |
  18. ralph

    There is no space god get over it.

    March 14, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
    • CW

      @ Ralph,

      Your right no "space god"...only the God of the Bible.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • Fred Evil

      'The god of the bible' is a myth too...but if you need it to be a good person, run with it man.
      The rest of us will be wearing our big boy pants. Let us know if you ever want to try some on.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
    • Tim

      Fred......Prove it. You can't prove he doesn't exist, Christians can't prove he does exist. The only thing proven by your comment is your ignorance of not respecting someone else's differing opinion....and that's no different from Christians.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:24 pm |
    • Peter F

      The fascinating point here is that atheism is just as much a religion as Christianity, Judaism or Islam. They are founded on a couple of basic beliefs that dictate how they act and what they say. The only way atheism differs from the Abrahamic faiths is that it professes no god while the others profess a god.

      March 14, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • Fred Evil

      To a certain extent, you are correct. Neither perspective is 100% provable, but the god-less theory has FAR more evidence behind it...and it's not ignorance to point that out. Is it more ignorant to allow people their silly little fantasies, or to pop their little bubbles?
      Everyone's better off working from the TRUTH, and no religion has any...

      March 14, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • Magic

      Peter F,

      "...atheism is just as much a religion as Christianity, Judaism or Islam."

      Then, therefore, is *any* philosophy a 'religion'?... is post-structuralism a religion?... pragmatism?... impressionism?... democracy?

      March 14, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
    • The Bobinator

      > The only thing proven by your comment is your ignorance of not respecting someone else's differing opinion....

      And the only thing that statement proves is that you don't know what ignorance means and that you are under the mistaken idea that opinons are to be respected.

      March 14, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      God doesn't need to prove anything to man.

      The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none who does good. (see also Psalm 53:1)

      Every single last person that rejects the truth of the Bible (Romans 1:18-25), and thus, the Truth of the Bible, God (John 14:6), will burn them forever in the lake of fire for hating Him so (Deuteronomy 32:39-41; Revelation 20:11-15). "not receive the love of the truth" (as in 2 Thessalonians 2:10). (2 Timothy 2:16-17)

      They will find themselves weeping and gnashing their teeth (e.g. Matthew 8:12; 22:1-14; 25;14-30; Luke 13:28).

      Why? Because, you are on the broad way (Matthew 7:13; 2 Peter 2:2; 2 Timothy 4:3). You have not the characteristic of Christ's sheep (John 10:5).

      How long, you simple ones, will you love simplicity? For scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge. (Proverbs 1:22)

      God rejects all those who stray from His word. It does not matter what the subject matter is. There is no salvation for any who heed not holy writ, as Psalm 119:21 proclaims,

      You rebuke the proud, the cursed, who stray from Your commandments.

      Proverbs 17:4 declares, An evildoer gives heed to false lips.

      The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one. (Psalm 14:2-3; 53:2-3).

      What man can live and not see death? (Psalm 89:48).

      This is because, all who behave unrighteously are an abomination to the Lord (Deuteronomy 25:16).

      Better get those mouth guards ready.

      Amen.

      March 14, 2011 at 7:21 pm |
    • Karen

      I appologize I posted in the wrong area. I am new to this. To Heaven Sent you posted basically the same thing so again,, Heaven Sent, your post is directed at others, it's time for you to take responsibility for your behavior. You are so quick to point it out to others but yet ignore the scriptures showing you are not the Christian you claim to be. Time to get real with yourself and give your ego to Christ.

      March 14, 2011 at 9:56 pm |
    • Aaron

      "They have all turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one."

      Not one... It's ironic that the poster of this comment didn't even take into consideration that it states not one, which means it also includes them. Pitiful.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:49 am |
    • The Bobinator

      > God doesn't need to prove anything to man.

      You are correct. God wouldn't have to prove anything if God didn't want to. However, if he wants us to know and love him and worship, he would have to prove himself to have people fulfill his will.

      The fact that he hasn't and that faith constantly leads people to the wrong conclusion means that either God is incompetent or God doesn't want us to know him.

      Logic and reason for the win.

      March 15, 2011 at 12:17 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Karen, what denomination are you that you are complaining so much? A Christian that has read the Bible knows what I am doing.

      March 15, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Bob, God isn't incompetent. Man is. God already knows who he is. Man needs to find out who He is because our souls depend on it. The only way man (meaning woman too) can find out who God is, is to read, comprehend and apply His wisdom to their lives.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
    • LJ

      "A Christian that has read the Bible knows what I am doing." Yes, they do, you are pushing people away with your cynicism.

      March 15, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Karen, I have nothing to do with the fact that you can't step back and see what is really going on. You're so busy with the sin of pride blinding you, that you have no eyes to see, nor ears to hear what I know about Jesus. But, you can be like the phony preachers out in the world today teaching that Jesus is all about LOVE that will get people sliding all the way to the eternal flames for not knowing all the other facets of Jesus. So Karen, what is it that you want to post about Him? Do you remember? Or, do you even know Jesus?

      I'll check back to see what you want to share with others about Jesus truth (all of it) instead of your obsessions in writing me.

      Peace.

      March 15, 2011 at 9:53 pm |
    • LJ

      "You're so busy with the sin of pride blinding you, that you have no eyes to see, nor ears to hear what I know about Jesus. "

      It would help to make this believable if you actually were practicing what you are trying to preach. You are so filled with your own ego and pride this point is mute.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:21 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, I have yet to read what you want to post. I do believe you are just here to be a pest. If so, I will SKIP over your post if you don't understand my explanation to you posted above.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:24 am |
    • LJ

      "LJ, I have yet to read what you want to post. I do believe you are just here to be a pest. If so, I will SKIP over your post if you don't understand my explanation to you posted above."

      LOL! You are doing the exact same to me being a "pest" so again you are possessed with ego as well as a hypocrite. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 8:59 am |
    • The Bobinator

      > Bob, God isn't incompetent. Man is. God already knows who he is. Man needs to find out who He is because our souls depend on it.

      Ok, so let me get this straight. You have just said that your very soul, the one thing that is more important then your life is in danger if you don't find God. How do you know you're right though?

      Remember, your soul is at stake. Over the history of mankind, there have been literally thousands of religions, all based off of faith with their believers to be certain of their God's existence. The common thread? All these religions had faith.

      So given that your soul is at stake and given that faith is an unreliable method to find the truth, as demonstrated by history and current events, how do you in fact check your own beliefs.

      > The only way man (meaning woman too) can find out who God is, is to read, comprehend and apply His wisdom to their lives.

      By using faith, which is unrelable. Which is why I say God, if he wanted to get his message out has failed. Because relying on something that is known to have led people in the wrong direction is silly. Surely God would have seen this coming.

      Which means one of two things. God doesn't care if we know him or not. Or God doesn't exist and is invented by man.

      March 16, 2011 at 9:47 am |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, that doesn't work against another Christian, especially a salty Christian against a wimpy, wishy washy one.

      I'm still waiting to see what you've got regarding His truth? Or, are you just going to have your melt downs over your big ego not getting your own way. "Oh, everyone has to be nice". Get a grip. Get a back bone and get some salt into you.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:53 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, that doesn't work against another Christian, especially a salty Christian against a wimpy, wishy washy one.

      I'm still waiting to see what you've got regarding His truth? Or, are you just going to have your melt downs over your big ego not getting your own way. "Oh, everyone has to be nice". Get a grip. Get a back bone and get some salt into you."

      Salt is terrible for your heart including your over all well being. More assumptions and false judgments. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 2:56 pm |
    • Smite Me

      Heaven Sent,

      You speak of 'salty' like it is an attractive quality...

      Too much salt can harden ones arteries and affect the brain. That tells us a lot about you.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, Ole Satan Be Gone! Words and music: Charles Davis Lead: C.D. Davis, Charles Davis, and Dale Underwood.

      Time to change CDs.

      March 16, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, Ole Satan Be Gone! Words and music: Charles Davis Lead: C.D. Davis, Charles Davis, and Dale Underwood.

      Time to change CDs."

      Satan is controlling your ego. The fact you can list the writers shows Satan is in charge. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Smite Me, Salty means a Christian that doesn't buy into all the man made (FALSE) doctrines that appease a sinner so they can continue sinning. Said phony preachers don't care what happens to a sinner. Salty Christians know the difference between what man is peddling to control the masses to please what they want to hear instead of Jesus' truth of what they need to hear. Jesus' Truth ensures His children know the best for them. Man made doctrines, hiding behind that they are preaching Jesus' gospel are wolves in sheep's clothing, not doing, nor caring about the ears that hear what they say.

      There are many scriptures pertaining to salty. Jesus wants all His children to be salty in knowing His word.

      Amen.

      March 16, 2011 at 6:52 pm |
    • LJ

      Again HS what you are not realizing is that salt is only useful if you use it in the right way and in the right combination. Salt can really only be useful if it's used with something else. It’s a balancing act with salt and a very delicate one, and with our modern knowledge of the problems associated with too much salt makes sharing scripture passage a complicated one when trying communicate. It's all about how you are using the salt and in what combination.

      March 16, 2011 at 7:09 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      "LJ, Again HS what you are not realizing is that salt is only useful if you use it in the right way and in the right combination. Salt can really only be useful if it's used with something else. It’s a balancing act with salt and a very delicate one, and with our modern knowledge of the problems associated with too much salt makes sharing scripture passage a complicated one when trying communicate. It's all about how you are using the salt and in what combination."

      How salty is spreading the lie of "love the sinner, hate the sin". Balanced? NOT Balanced is more like it. Allowing sinners to continue sinning so they can't have their souls saved with a man made belief.

      There is no delicate balancing act with Jesus Truth. To say that is continuing to stroke more egos of the sinners and NOT allowing them to know Jesus' truth in order to save their souls. People need to hear Jesus' truth, not your continuing the ways of man who can hear what scriptures of Jesus and who isn't ready. Who are you to decide what a sinner should or shouldn't hear! Jesus' truth is opened to everyone, not just some and His truth isn't for you or anyone to hand it out when you feel it's necessary or it's time for someone to come up to His truth. All a sinner need do is read the Bible daily to focus on Jesus' truth as written in scriptures.

      I'd rather lead people to His scriptures in the Bible, then continue to stroke anyone away from His truth.

      March 17, 2011 at 9:39 am |
    • LJ

      "How salty is spreading the lie of "love the sinner, hate the sin". Balanced? NOT Balanced is more like it. Allowing sinners to continue sinning so they can't have their souls saved with a man made belief."

      I was hoping you would be blinded by your ego and need to argue to prove once again how you continue to misinterpret the scriptures. Jesus uses the world salt but it is usally followed by word light and good work, that means balance! LOL! Your posts prove by bashing even Christians you do not practice Christ's scriptures.

      See, I knew you were lying when you said you would skip over my posts. LOL!

      By the way, as for the love the sinner hate the sin. Again, you are stuck on your version of righteousness without taking the time to consider other possible interpretations. We are all sinners, even YOU, so who ever came up with this catch phrase was merely trying to make a point that we still have to love one another, regardless of the fact we all sin. Think about it. I know you are so stuck in your ego you'll come up with more ways to bash my posts. LOL! Go Satan be gone now!

      March 17, 2011 at 10:41 am |
    • HeavenSent

      "See, I knew you were lying when you said you would skip over my posts. LOL! By the way, as for the love the sinner hate the sin. Again, you are stuck on your version of righteousness without taking the time to consider other possible interpretations. We are all sinners, even YOU, so who ever came up with this catch phrase was merely trying to make a point that we still have to love one another, regardless of the fact we all sin. Think about it. I know you are so stuck in your ego you'll come up with more ways to bash my posts. LOL! Go Satan be gone now!"

      LJ, then stop writing me if you don't want me to respond. There are at least 15 other articles after this one you can post to. Besides, If I didn't love my fellow man/woman, I wouldn't be posting His truth. Just because I posted other scriptures pertaining to Jesus, opposite of His love scriptures proves there is different facets to Jesus. I posted those scriptures so non-believers that refuse to learn His truth know there is consequences to their actions of not discovering Him. Non-believers will keep you wrapped up in their circular arguments just to spin you around. Have fun. They do. I'd rather list a few of the scriptures that they need to know and hope it falls on fertile ground. After reading them, they decide. Keep telling the non-believers that Jesus loves them no matter what they do. That isn't very Christian of you know that.

      Finally, all scriptures of Jesus is for everyone to read. The more they read, the more they learn what Jesus wants for them and what He wants from them.

      P.S. I happen to see your blogs because I'm looking for someone else' post of questions he told me he'd write me. That is the only reason I come back to this article.

      Peace.

      March 17, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
    • LJ

      "Keep telling the non-believers that Jesus loves them no matter what they do. That isn't very Christian of you know that. "

      More assumptions! LOL! Keep going painting bogus images in your head. LOL!

      March 17, 2011 at 8:58 pm |
  19. Chuck Anziulewicz

    Here's a good joke! QUESTION: What's the difference between a Harley and a Hoover? ANSWER: The location of the dirt bag! HA!

    March 14, 2011 at 12:05 pm |
    • Jujubeans

      Ha Ha Ha, that's very funny ma'am.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
    • Ooob

      That was excellent 😛 God Bless Ya

      March 14, 2011 at 2:37 pm |
    • Karen

      Same post as previous one Heaven Sent. Again, Heaven Sent, you post is directed at others, it's time for you to take responsibility for your behavior. You are so quick to point it out to others but yet ignore the scriptures showing you are not the Christian you claim to be. Time to get real with yourself and give your ego to Christ.

      March 14, 2011 at 9:54 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Karen has joined LJ's club of obsession over what I write. What's the matter Karen, did you forgot what it is you wanted to post about Jesus? You two ladies need to get a job, get a life, and get over your controlling about what I write. I'm trying to explain ALL of Jesus, not the fluff stuff that Jesus is love so folks don't know what to do with His wisdom. You, along with phony Christians like LJ are leading your fellow man to the eternal flames without explaining everything you know about Jesus. I prefer to explain what I know. And you? You prefer to keep blogging at me instead of sharing what you know.

      Oh, well. I guess we'll never know what you really came on this site to post.

      March 15, 2011 at 9:44 pm |
    • LJ

      "You two ladies need to get a job, get a life, and get over your controlling about what I write." Another assumption that both of us our are women. LOL! What proof do you have? No one is controlling you that too is another assumption on your part. Again you are reading into what people are posting. This is fantastic keep proving what I am saying about your reading comprehension. LOL!

      March 15, 2011 at 9:53 pm |
    • LJ

      "You, along with phony Christians like LJ are leading your fellow man to the eternal flames without explaining everything you know about Jesus." You are not explaining it either. You are doing small posts accusing others, arguing with others, condemning others to hell. You are not bringing anyone to Christ that way. You are so possessed by Satan's ego you can't see that and I understand that, which is why I am trying to bring you back to Christ. It might help if you go back read his word and find your heart again, then maybe you could convince us you actually practice what you are "trying" to preach.

      March 15, 2011 at 9:57 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, look up to previous post I wrote you. If you can't accept my explanation, then your just being a pest and I will ignore you in the future.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:20 am |
    • LJ

      "LJ, look up to previous post I wrote you. If you can't accept my explanation, then your just being a pest and I will ignore you in the future." You just admitted in the previous post you don't listen to others post but continue to post anyways that makes you a "pest" as well as a hypocrite.

      March 16, 2011 at 8:58 am |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, I'll give you something to do today. Read all 11 books of Ecclesiastes. Those books will show you how man/woman is to conduct themselves while walking on this earth.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:38 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, I'll give you something to do today. Read all 11 books of Ecclesiastes. Those books will show you how man/woman is to conduct themselves while walking on this earth." I don't have to follow your suggestions you are too lost to take advice from, I only listen to God. Maybe you should practice what you are preaching and read them again. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
  20. CW

    @ HeavenSent and all Christian Believers,

    Don't try to talk some sense into the Atheist's or nonbeliever's b/c they don't and won't hear the good news. They are a bunch of "evolution believing", "science believing", "pro-choice"(most of them), "g-'ay pride", "do what you want when you want", "Got to prove it to me" "anti-Bible loving" kind of folks. When you think about it they are a truly sad bunch of folks b/c they put their minds and faith in something called "science" or "man's theories of the day". When I think about the destruction that awaits their souls it makes me more sad for them than anything b/c they will truly see the Glory of the Lord one day. If they don't change before then in that Glory they will see their own destruction come to light b/c they had a mentality of "prove it before I believe" sin-'drome.

    To top it all of...when there is a story of faith or how God is good or how his word is truth...they come in drove's spewing some propaganda or "theory of the day". I don't understand...if they don't believe then why must they even comment? You won't see me on an Atheist website talking about the good news b/c I know that no one will listen.

    March 14, 2011 at 11:50 am |
    • HeavenSent

      CW, Christians know we are dealing with communists. They call themselves anything they want but the bottom line they are yellow belly, slithering snakes, communist loving traitors of Jesus Christ.

      Remember what Jesus told us in Matthew 7:6. It applies to all of them that are going, down, down, down to the eternal fires along with satan whom they love and worship.

      Their choice. Free will.

      God Bless you CW.

      March 14, 2011 at 12:15 pm |
    • John

      Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

      Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all , and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

      March 14, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      Wasn't Jesus a communist, or at the very least a socialist? I'm pretty sure he was.

      March 14, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
    • John

      Acts 2:44-45
      44 Now all who believed were together, and had all things in common, 45 and sold their possessions and goods, and divided them among all, as anyone had need.

      Acts 4:32 Now the multi-tude of those who believed were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common.

      March 14, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.

      March 14, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • CW

      @ John,

      I like your posts...you always lead with scriptures....that is a good thing. All I'm pointing out is that it will be hard to save the lost....If the lost want to be "lost" then we as Christians can't say anything to change them. What I have a problem with is that most of them want a society where "anything goes" as long as it "feels" good.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      @CW: If cornering the market on what's "good" is the only way you can feel good about yourself, so be it. My sympathies.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      @CW: Oh, and I feel it's worth pointing out, that unless my reading comprehension has dropped to that of a 5th grade child...I think John is mocking you with your own book.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:14 pm |
    • Rick

      CW: Still begging on your knees?

      March 14, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • Tim

      Yes CW, you did pass judgement and you failed to follow in the teachings of Christianity. You decided that no one would listen to you, that's passing judgement. You didn't spread the gospel to people that needed to hear it, you failed. You chickened out, you didn't do what God told you too...you ignore the Aetheist.

      What a fine upstanding example you are. Christians only talk to Christians. I guess that's why Jesus spent so much time talking to people that didn't believe like he did.....he was chicken too?

      See, this is what happens when you judge the Aetheist as you have....you just got judged.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • Rick

      Heaven Sent: Looking forward to enternity on your knees in front of Jesus? Take lots of breath minds, pendejo

      March 14, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
    • Rick

      minds = mints

      March 14, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
    • Tim

      Jesus was a Socialist. If he were Communist he would have taken the property of others and kept it as his then gave it away as he deemed necessary.

      In Socailism, everything is shared equally, if you choose to trade your share, that's your business.

      March 14, 2011 at 1:22 pm |
    • Evolved DNA

      CW .. I have no doubts that you are a true believer. But as such, you have limited your options, and true knowledge. You can lie to your self as much as you want, but if you tell us, we ask for proof, and you know you cannot offer any. Science is the best way we have of understanding the world.. evolution has evidence that points to it being true, and ID, creation, does not match observation.. I do not believe in your god, or any one of the thousands we have invented .It is sad that you will never understand the true beauty of life, our connection to the universe...and you only see through your death cult.

      March 14, 2011 at 3:01 pm |
    • CW

      @ SeanNJ and others,

      Well I see...got everything from Blasphemies to people saying "I'm mean and judgemental"....Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! I love how people love to rant on Chiristians. Don't be afraid of us and the way our Bible speaks of how we should live and govern ourselves....you should be very afraid of how you will spend eternity. You can solve that problem....Ask God to forgive you and begin to follow him.

      Also...John and I have conversed on several occassions....this person feels that sometimes I may be to angry in my posts...Sometimes I do get a bit heated in my exchanges but I do stand up for the Bible and what God says.

      March 14, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
    • John

      Matthew 6:19-21
      Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

      Luke 12:15
      And he said to them, Take care, and be on your guard against all covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.

      1 Timothy 6:10
      For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils. It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many pangs.

      1 John 3:17
      But if anyone has the world's goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God's love abide in him?

      Ephesians 4:28
      Let the thief no longer steal, but rather let him labor, doing honest work with his own hands, so that he may have something to share with anyone in need.

      Romans 13:8-10
      Owe no one anything, except to love each other, for the one who loves another has fulfilled the law. For the commandments, You shall not commit adultery, You shall not murder, You shall not steal, You shall not covet, and any other commandment, are summed up in this word: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

      March 14, 2011 at 3:32 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      All the dry bones with no hearts, no ears to hear or eyes to see, communists each and every one of you/ Move to a communist country that blocks God out. No one is stopping you because the USA was founded on God. In God we trust is on the money that some of you will earn when you get a job. If you move to Rush (find out what the RED country is) and you can all behave badly with your sins and have a good time while you go down, down, down all the way to the eternal flames with satan and his lies that deceived all of you to follow him because of being blinded by the sin of PRIDE (aka your egos). Just because they called you sonny once, doesn't make any of you bright.

      Oh, boo, hoo, HS doesn't stroke your egos like the phony preachers do. Boo, hoo, boo, hoo.

      Amen.

      March 14, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
    • LJ

      "All the dry bones with no hearts, no ears to hear or eyes to see, communists each and every one of you/ Move to a communist country that blocks God out. No one is stopping you because the USA was founded on God. In God we trust is on the money that some of you will earn when you get a job. If you move to Rush (find out what the RED country is) and you can all behave badly with your sins and have a good time while you go down, down, down all the way to the eternal flames with satan and his lies that deceived all of you to follow him because of being blinded by the sin of PRIDE (aka your egos). Just because they called you sonny once, doesn't make any of you bright.

      Oh, boo, hoo, HS doesn't stroke your egos like the phony preachers do. Boo, hoo, boo, hoo."

      Wow, HS have you like been on this place blogging for to long now or what. Seriously, you need help. This is not coming from a Christian since it is just spewing with anger. You have officially let Satan into your heart.

      March 14, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
    • John

      Heaven Sent

      1 Peter 3:8-11
      Finally, all of you, have unity of mind, sympathy, brotherly love, a tender heart, and a humble mind. Do not repay evil for evil or reviling for reviling, but on the contrary, bless, for to this you were called, that you may obtain a blessing. For “Whoever desires to love life and see good days, let him keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit; let him turn away from evil and do good; let him seek peace and pursue it.

      March 14, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
    • Sharon

      "Oh, boo, hoo, HS doesn't stroke your egos like the phony preachers do. Boo, hoo, boo, hoo."

      You are the Christian phony.

      March 14, 2011 at 4:24 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      The fool has said in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none who does good. (see also Psalm 53:1)

      Every single last person that rejects the truth of the Bible (Romans 1:18-25), and thus, the Truth of the Bible, God (John 14:6), will burn them forever in the lake of fire for hating Him so (Deuteronomy 32:39-41; Revelation 20:11-15). "not receive the love of the truth" (as in 2 Thessalonians 2:10). (2 Timothy 2:16-17)

      They will find themselves weeping and gnashing their teeth (e.g. Matthew 8:12; 22:1-14; 25;14-30; Luke 13:28).

      Why? Because, you are on the broad way (Matthew 7:13; 2 Peter 2:2; 2 Timothy 4:3). You have not the characteristic of Christ's sheep (John 10:5).

      How long, you simple ones, will you love simplicity? For scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge. (Proverbs 1:22).

      God rejects all those who stray from His word. It does not matter what the subject matter is. There is no salvation for any who heed not holy writ, as Psalm 119:21 proclaims,

      You rebuke the proud, the cursed, who stray from Your commandments.

      Proverbs 17:4 declares, An evildoer gives heed to false lips.

      The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one. (Psalm 14:2-3; 53:2-3).

      What man can live and not see death? (Psalm 89:48).

      This is because, all who behave unrighteously are an abomination to the Lord (Deuteronomy 25:16).

      Amen.

      March 14, 2011 at 7:17 pm |
    • Karen

      Heaven Sent, you post is directed at others, it's time for you to take responsibility for your behavior. You are so quick to point it out to others but yet ignore the scriptures showing you are not the Christian you claim to be. Time to get real with yourself and give your ego to Christ.

      March 14, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    • LJ

      "Heaven Sent God rejects all those who stray from His word. It does not matter what the subject matter is. "
      You are just as guilty as though you accuse.

      March 14, 2011 at 10:04 pm |
    • Aaron

      "They have all turned aside, they have together become corrupt; there is none who does good, no, not one."

      It's ironic that the poster of this comment didn't even take into consideration that it states not one, which means it also includes them. Pitiful.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:48 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Karen, I am posting truth from the Bible, yet the ones who complain, still don't believe and are calling me a liar that I making this up. They have heard all the sugar coating of Jesus' truth, not all of His truth. It is everyone's responsibility to read the Bible, comprehend, and abide Jesus teachings to their life. This generation, plus the last few generations don't know His truth. Only a glimpse of His truth.

      If you have a problem with this. To Bad for you too. Read the Bible so you can find out His truth on your own because your soul is on the line to find out what He wants for us and from us.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, I'm glad your feathers are being ruffled. Time to read the Bible to find out what Jesus wants for us and from us.

      Peace.

      March 15, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      John, same with you. Stop copying my previous posts then posting them here, pretending you've read the Bible. Read it for yourself so that you know what Jesus wants for us and from us. Your soul depends on it. You are in the last generation, think about that truth and stop following your buddies who MOCK GOD.

      Amen.

      March 15, 2011 at 2:52 pm |
    • LJ

      HS I have read the bible from the time I could read, I went to special schools to study religion. I am not ruffled in the least, it is just another of your assumptions. You are the one ruffled and trolling this site only for the purpose of entertainment. You are not here to convert anyone, all you have done is to push others sways with your cynicism. I feel sorry for you actually, because you truly don't know how to love; it brings such joy into your life and the life of others. All of the assumptions you have made about others on this site has only continue to prove your lack of practice of the scriptures.

      March 15, 2011 at 5:16 pm |
    • LJ

      "Stop copying my previous posts then posting them here, pretending you've read the Bible. " All John has done is post scriptures and you are assuming he hasn't read the Bible. That's hilarious. It's funny how you choose some scriptures to follow and not others too. Nice post John! LOL!

      March 15, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Tim, get a job. Stop looking for handouts and do for yourself.

      March 15, 2011 at 9:31 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, you're getting obsessed. Get a life. Oh, I thought you were going to teach folks about the LOVE of Jesus. I'm waiting. Oh, that's right. You're too obsessed with what I'm explaining.

      March 15, 2011 at 9:34 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, you're getting obsessed. Get a life. Oh, I thought you were going to teach folks about the LOVE of Jesus. I'm waiting. Oh, that's right. You're too obsessed with what I'm explaining." There is a HUGE difference about teaching others than arguing with others, which is why I continue to post. You are more concerned with being right, winning the argument than actually practicing what Christ was trying to teach you. You are possessed with Satan's ego, nothing more, go read your bible and get back to Christ's real teachings.

      March 15, 2011 at 10:00 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, you just started posting. Go back another 20 articles to catch up with what everyone has said already. After you do then you will see that I'm purposely doing back to them what they've done to us. Which is, refusing to listen. Now that this has gotten non-believers attention to realize how they've attack us without listening, we can hopefully have a discussion. If my explanation bothers you. You own it. I'll just skip over your posts if you can't follow or accept what I just told you.

      March 16, 2011 at 1:17 am |
    • LJ

      "LJ, you just started posting. Go back another 20 articles to catch up with what everyone has said already. After you do then you will see that I'm purposely doing back to them what they've done to us. Which is, refusing to listen. Now that this has gotten non-believers attention to realize how they've attack us without listening, we can hopefully have a discussion. If my explanation bothers you. You own it. I'll just skip over your posts if you can't follow or accept what I just told you."

      You just admitted to going down to their level, which is why I continue to say you are now possessed with Satan's ego. Thanks for proving my point yet again. It also shows you do not practice the teaching of Christ. Your explanation doesn't bother me because I realize it's coming from a place of evil and not good. You own that.

      March 16, 2011 at 8:56 am |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, you are a phony. You're not on this blog to post scriptures, because you don't know any. You only know the phony baloney teachings of man and that's why my postings are bothering you. Oh, love the sinner, not the sin isn't in the Bible. That's why you're not posting, only complaining because I'm posting His truth that everyone needs to know, not what man/woman wants to hear. Big difference what is written in the Bible versus man teachings to stroke you evil nature. You only came on to bother me because you HATE Jesus and His spiritual truth. You don't like that I post His truth and not the ways of man! Get over your sinful nature that you love so much and don't want to leave behind. YOU, and you alone are responsible for continuing on in sin.

      Amen.

      March 16, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, you are a phony. You're not on this blog to post scriptures, because you don't know any. You only know the phony baloney teachings of man and that's why my postings are bothering you. Oh, love the sinner, not the sin isn't in the Bible. That's why you're not posting, only complaining because I'm posting His truth that everyone needs to know, not what man/woman wants to hear. Big difference what is written in the Bible versus man teachings to stroke you evil nature. You only came on to bother me because you HATE Jesus and His spiritual truth. You don't like that I post His truth and not the ways of man! Get over your sinful nature that you love so much and don't want to leave behind. YOU, and you alone are responsible for continuing on in sin."

      More and more assumptions and false judgments. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 2:32 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      LJ, Ole Satan Be Gone! Words and music: Charles Davis Lead: C.D. Davis, Charles Davis, and Dale Underwood.

      Skip.

      March 16, 2011 at 3:33 pm |
    • LJ

      "LJ, Ole Satan Be Gone! Words and music: Charles Davis Lead: C.D. Davis, Charles Davis, and Dale Underwood.

      Skip."

      Obviously you didn't skip. Satan is controlling your ego. The fact you can list the writers shows Satan is in charge. Satan be gone!

      March 16, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      What are you talking about? I'm sure the songs are great. I've never heard them, but, I'm sure the musicians know their stuff. It's obvious, that you like them. That isn't the point. Artists, no matter what genre, are not Jesus. Jesus, and only Jesus is who saves. NO one else. Just scriptures that Jesus divinely inspired to the scribes who penned His truth. All the other artists in the world are to be enjoyed for their gifts (that Jesus gave them), but they can not save your soul, or anyone's soul.

      Peace.

      March 17, 2011 at 7:02 pm |
    • LJ

      "It's obvious, that you like them"

      Another assumption because you have this great need to think you are right – EGO. LOL! Keep proving my point. Go Satan, be gone! Jesus please save this lost soul.

      March 17, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
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