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March 20th, 2011
08:21 AM ET

Irish Catholic Church pledges $14m to help abuse victims

By Peter Taggart, For CNN

The Catholic Church in Ireland is pledging an extra 10 million euros (about $14 million) to help victims of abuse at the hands of priests and other Catholic officials, it announced this weekend.

The announcement comes on the one-year anniversary of a major papal statement on the widespread problem of child abuse in the deeply Catholic country.

"As a result of the grievous wrong of abuse, for many survivors their faith in God and the Church has been profoundly damaged,"  said Ireland's senior churchman, Cardinal Sean Brady.

"Many have expressed a hope that this damage can be addressed," he said, adding that the latest moves were "tangible signs" the church was working to ensure all children were cared for.

The financial pledge is part of a Church initiative called "Towards Healing and Renewal."

The new money will be divided equally between dioceses and religious orders over a period of five years, the church said.

It comes on top of 20 million euros (about $28 million) that has been spent on the confidential helpline and counselling referral service to date.

The initiatives from Irish bishops mark the first anniversary of Pope Benedict XVI's Pastoral letter to Irish Catholics.

Since the letter last year, bishops have been meeting with abuse survivors, and will continue to do so, the church said.

As part of the plan, bishops are to set aside each first Friday as a day of fasting and prayer in reparation for the abuse.

- Newsdesk editor, The CNN Wire

Filed under: Catholic Church • Ireland • Pope Benedict XVI • Sex abuse

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  1. Bernard

    to littel to late

    March 22, 2011 at 5:12 pm |
  2. stevec

    14M might seem like a lot of money – until you divide it up between all of the victims – which won't happen. There will be legal costs, salaries for social workers, and whatever else.

    Nothing will change in this story until the church is held accountable in the secular courts. This means losing a few lawsuits and being forced to sell off holdings to pay for damages.

    March 22, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
  3. ANP

    I am proud of CNN for showing a positive thing about a church. Even if the church is doing this to 'regain' people's view towards the catholic church, it's still a nice thing they are doing. Like when famous actors and actresses get on tv and say they are donating such and such amount of money, they are mostly trying to get good publicity but none the less they are still doing something very nice. Not all churches or priests are bad, in fact only a small portion of them have made such terrible mistakes, but it's those ones who get publicized and ruin it for all the other good churches and good folks out there. These priests were just putting their heads together to try to come up with a solution as to how they can help others and their church. So horray for CNN for showing something positive. Thank you.

    March 21, 2011 at 1:55 pm |
    • Mr. Sniffles

      Read the story more carefully. The church is not giving it to the victims. It is giving the money to itself, ostensibly to run programs that the victims will not want. Would you, after having been abused, then stonewalled, then brushed off, then lied to, the finding out the cover-up conspiracy, then being treated as enemy by the church and the leity, after years of all that betrayal and obstruction, would you choose to then go to that same organization for the meager and inadequate "help" they finally offer?

      The Catholic Church has a long, long way to go before it starts acting decently. All indications are that it will never get there, even if forced.

      March 21, 2011 at 7:50 pm |
    • gerald

      You broad brush. Not all have felt like the Church has not responded to them and not everyone in the Church including counselors from groups like Catholic Charities and other organizations has been involved in this mess. The money is for counseling. The parish priest does not normally do such counseling so they won't be getting the money.

      March 22, 2011 at 1:28 pm |
    • chief

      gerlad is right..... not all feel like the church has not responded..... Only catholics who care more about the organization than the kids that they have allowed to be abused, feel like the church has done something ..... meanwhile normal people think the only thing the church has done is to divert the truth

      March 22, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
    • gerald

      Chief,

      More broad brushing ignorance from the ignorant.

      Your not normal chief.

      March 22, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
    • chief

      whats amazing is how people expend too much energy, time, and effort to defend an organization and people that aguse kids....

      March 23, 2011 at 9:50 am |
    • gerald

      Chief, you r a p e women and kill babies. I'll be you abuse mental patients and the handicaped. Your a j e w hater and a communist sympathizer. Ha! HA HA! Aint that funny.

      March 23, 2011 at 3:26 pm |
    • gerald

      Chief,

      I'll I'm guessing michael jackson didn't die and your him.

      March 23, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
    • chief

      re gerald... whats funny is that is the best you can come up with.... you'd feel bad if i were really an anti-semetic chinese woman that had to abort one of her children while she worked in an asylum abusing people..... whats isnt funny is that your a ped sympathizer most likey disquised as a priest.... you need help, and dont go to another priest for it

      March 23, 2011 at 5:35 pm |
    • gerald

      I wouldn't feel bad whoever you are coward.

      March 24, 2011 at 10:15 am |
    • chief

      that was a snappy comeback priest

      March 24, 2011 at 11:12 am |
    • gerald

      And chief isn't a bigot? He says he only accuses those who have molested children and does not broad brush. Yet he calls me a priest as if it would be a negative thing to be one. The implication is of course that they are all child molesters. Wasn't suppossed to be a snappy comback imbicile. You come on here and antagonize people who don't agree with you. Would you say any of the things you have said to me to my face. I doubt it. No you are what you are. A cowardly bigot.

      March 24, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
    • gerald

      And I would love to call you that to your face.

      March 24, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
    • chief

      re gerald... thanks to people like you, there will still be priests on the street harming kids.... you want to look at someone in the face... try a mirror you priest.... i am suprised you defenders of the peds can get face yourselves every day

      March 25, 2011 at 11:09 am |
    • gerald

      You are no more than a maggot chief.

      March 25, 2011 at 8:30 pm |
    • chief

      re gerald.... any of your priest buddies ( that are so innocent ) part of the jesuit lawsuit of 450 native american kids they abused?

      March 26, 2011 at 8:50 am |
  4. Doc Vestibule

    According to the John Jay report, 918 of 1872 (49%) substantiated allegations of abuse against Catholic clergy were addressed by sending the priest off for psychiatric counseling and then moving him to another parish, with nary a whisper to law enforcement. This number does not include priests relocated for reasons other than charges of se.xual impropriety.
    The Irish Commission to Inquire Into Child Abuse from 2009 came to the conclusion that ""the Dublin Archdiocese's pre-occupations in dealing with cases of child se.xual abuse, at least until the mid 1990s, were the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the Church, and the preservation of its as.sets. All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, were subordinated to these priorities."
    In summation: The Roman Catholic Church is guilty of criminal conspiracy. Until the Pope publically and unequivocally states that all allegations of abuse will immediately be referred to local law enforcement, the RCC will be viewed as an evil, predatory inst.itution by a large portion of the world.

    March 21, 2011 at 11:10 am |
  5. Maxx

    Nothing like greed and s-ex to make a religious person kneel.

    March 21, 2011 at 7:56 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Maxx, it's the sin of PRIDE and the sin of LUST blinding them. The sin of GREED is blinding those that are to resolve the former 2 sins that hurt so many.

      Amen.

      March 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
  6. Reality

    Money wasted as the "vomit-inducing" ped-ophilia and coverup will simply hasten the elimination of all religions as we know them. It is time to replace all religions with a few rules like "Do No Harm" and convert all houses of "worthless worship" to recreation facilities and parks...................................................

    March 21, 2011 at 7:49 am |
    • gerald

      This will of course have to be forced and will require the murdering and imprisonment of many Christians. That's the way you want to go eh. Don't do harm to others unless their christian.

      March 21, 2011 at 10:58 am |
    • Stating the obvious

      You two nitwits deserve each other. In Dante's Inferno, you would spend the rest of eternity arguing.

      March 21, 2011 at 11:13 am |
    • Reality

      What inferno? What Hell?

      o Regarding hell, Father Edward Schillebeeckx, the famous contemporary theologian, had a different take on hell. He reasons that the Singularity does not tolerate imperfection in the spiritual realm. Therefore, any soul dying in mortal sin will simply disappear since hell the imperfect state does not exist. (assuming that there is a Singularity and a spiritual realm).
      Also, Professor JD Crossan, the famous contemporary historical Jesus exegete, does not believe in the afterlife. See his book Who is Jesus for added commentary.

      And the latest astrophysics view of life after death? Tis simply recycling/decomposing of your body into future materials in a never -ending cycle of birth, death and renewal. No heaven, no hell, no purgatory, no limbo just the beauty of Mother Nature in recycling mode. Here today, gone tomorrow eventually returning as something different, inanimated or animated in the chaotic, stochastic life of the expanding or shrinking universe.

      March 21, 2011 at 12:27 pm |
    • gerald

      So you when you go there you will just believe it is one long horendous nightmare.

      March 21, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • chief

      gerald that is an elitest comment and wrong.... i think the guy is an antagonist but the hell comments are wrong

      March 21, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • HeavenSent

      Reality, you are just as guilty of those you accuse. All of you are denying Jesus' truth which stands for eternity.

      Mere mortal men thinking/believing, writing, doing carnal ways of the world instead of Jesus' spiritual teachings to change your minds over to His truth.

      Amen.

      March 21, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • Reality

      Saving the likes of "bible-boxed" HeavenSent yet again:

      There was and never will be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no Christianity

      Added details upon request.

      March 21, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
    • gerald

      So chief, your a universalist? Or is it just Catholics that go to hell and atheists are fine? I really don't know what your theology is chief. I think your religion is to criticize everyone else's.

      March 21, 2011 at 5:22 pm |
    • Stating the obvious

      Dante's Inferno is a literary creation. His punishments in Hell are quite entertaining. His Purgatorio is uninteresting and his Paradiso is incredibly boring – then again, every description of heaven I have ever heard sounded massively dull.

      Dante would be severely ostracized in today's looney-tune Christianity for being creative with the Bible.

      I know, you were just looking for a segue into yet another one of your dreary cut-and-pastes.

      March 21, 2011 at 7:43 pm |
    • chief

      hey gerald,.... you might want to have your reading compreshension checked..... my belief isnt fond of those who harm children or those who allow it to happen.... i know greek, i know hebrew, been to mass many times, i guess you being a liar is ok so you can confess your lies to yourself... you priest...... you habitually lie about what i say..... i dont hate all catholics, just the ones that abuse kids and those who go to great lengths to hidew that fact....

      March 22, 2011 at 8:58 am |
    • gerald

      Chief,

      Then you respond back to me with a post that indicates you need some reading comprehension. I did not tell you what your theology was. I asked if you were a universalist. Get the question mark at the end. You said what I said about an atheist going to hell wasn't correct yet you have posted that Catholics aren't Christians. Your list of lies is long, including:

      Accusing me of being a child molester.
      Accusing me of being a priest in a derogatory manner.
      Accusing me of being gay.
      Accusing me of being single with no kids in a derogatory manner.
      Accusing me of being supportive of priests who have abused children.

      Shall I go on chief. Don't talk to me about lies until you have bought yourself a plank picker. I could care less about how many languages you know. Stop bragging.

      March 22, 2011 at 1:34 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Gerald
      Speaking of plank pickers, didn't you assume that I've no family and that I'll die alone and miserable? Didn't you say that I'm an animal – more specifically a dog?
      Ever hear the old saying about people in glass houses?

      March 22, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
    • chief

      hey gerald.... it more like this, and based on your posts you just might be everything ive questioned about you..... btw.. there are kids being defiled by priests because of people like you turning your head.... you more guilty than most because you are one of them....

      questioning you of being a child molester.
      ok guilty becasue you are ..... Accusing me of being a priest in a derogatory manner.
      being gay has nothing to do with ped priests ...... Accusing me of being gay.
      your a moron ..... Accusing me of being single with no kids in a derogatory manner.

      ABSOLUTELY ........ Accusing me of being supportive of priests who have abused children.

      March 22, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
    • gerald

      Chief your a moron. I've avoided saying that for a long time but at this point there is little else to say. You hide behind a computer screen. At this point I would punch you in the face. Where are you at. Dumb a-s-s. Sorry folks but this p-r-i-c-k is accusing me of molesting children.

      March 22, 2011 at 4:45 pm |
    • gerald

      Apologies to any morons I have insulted by putting them on the same level as chief.

      March 22, 2011 at 9:54 pm |
    • chief

      re gerald... name calling and violence..... wow ... i only am out there to help protect children in the future against peds, in the church or else.... anyone that does anything to dilute that point is hiding, defending, protecting something that isnt in the best interest in the kids or victoms... so if you fit in that catagory ( which you do ) .... go ahead and propogate the same crap that has allowed many kids to have been abused.... i didnt accuse you of being a priest.... i question it.... i didnt accuse you of being a ped.... i question it because of your insistence on denying the truth about the matter.....

      March 23, 2011 at 9:48 am |
    • chief

      re gerald... you say to me "at this point you would punch me in the face and where am i at" where am i, i am laying in the floor laughing at your pathetic self sitting there in your priest suit wanting to have a girl fight with me because you a ped simpathizer........ go get counseling, your really twisted....

      March 23, 2011 at 12:54 pm |
    • gerald

      Chief, you r a p e women and kill babies. I'll be you abuse mental patients and the handicaped. Your a j e w hater and a communist sympathizer. Ha! HA HA! Aint that funny. I'm rolling over laughing. If you dared accuse me of the crap you have accused me of in person it would really be funny. But your a coward.

      March 23, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
    • chief

      re gerald... hey priest... cowards abuse kids, cowards hide behind lies they make up about people, cowards cant think for themselves..... ... ... you talk like some guy that isnt married that reads alot and has never lived and hide his insecurity behind the collar of a priest, if someone disagrees with you...they are dogs, or hellbound, or some other chest beating blasphemous religious zealot comment.......

      March 23, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
    • chief

      Re gerald... you say " If you dared accuse me of the crap you have accused me of in person it would really be funny. But your a coward." and the other punch me out stuff.... you need counseling..... whats really funny? i know who you are....

      March 23, 2011 at 6:11 pm |
    • gerald

      Who am I coward.

      March 24, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    • chief

      re gerald... who are you? you are aon the wrong side of the pedaphile problem in the catholic church.... you would rather defend the ped priests and the church that harbors them than do anything about it... why dont you spend more time helping than spending time redirecting the issue..... you are part of the problem....

      March 24, 2011 at 11:15 am |
    • gerald

      I have said over and over that I condemn the actions of anyone who has comited this atrocity. Yet chief has no room for anyone who does not like that ALL priests are broad brushed (thought he claims he is not) by this scandal. Chief even calls me priest as an insult. He thinks it is okay to insult people, yet he would not do it to anyone's face. He is simply a coward and a bigot.

      March 24, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • chief

      re gerald.... maybe you arent a priest .... ANYMORE ha... if it looks like a dog, smells like a dog, guards like a dog, barks like a dog, and loves little kids like a dog then it must be a dog..... get it priest?

      March 25, 2011 at 11:12 am |
    • chief

      re gerald... BTW, if i were a priest, i would be insulted to be called one.... since i am not a priest, it wouldnt bother me, but it bother you, which begs the question ... why? if the collar fits ... wear it... just be a good priest and not a ped

      March 25, 2011 at 11:19 am |
    • gerald

      What bothers me is your obvious bigotry in calling me one. And you are a bigot. the priesthood is an honorable profession for those who go in to it to serve God and live the life as it is intended. Not the pedophiles. But you disparage them all as if they all have molested children. No you are little better than Hitler against Jews. And your a coward to boot because you insult people on these boards hiding behind the internet. Your a gutless creep.

      March 25, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
    • chief

      hey herald .... honorable, i guess i would agree if i were one.... i guess i should ask the 450 native americans they they abused in the northwest ,.... yet another lawsuit

      your hilter comment shows how much your protect the peds..... you go to that length to deflect... i never said priests..... just the guilty ones that are there now, the ones that were there, anyone that knew about it and didnt do the right thing, and those to defend them........ you guilty of 1 and may all 4.... priest

      March 26, 2011 at 8:55 am |
  7. jesse

    This is still rediculus. Can you say blood money? What they should be doing instead, is releaseing the names of priests of ill repute, prosicuteing them, and changeing their procedures.... but we know that won't happen any time soon.

    March 21, 2011 at 5:44 am |
    • Juanita M

      They are doing their best to stay out of the se-x offender lists, aren't they? Wouldn't want anyone recognizing anyone, would we? That would be embarrassing, wouldn't it?

      March 21, 2011 at 7:01 am |
    • gerald

      Its not up to the church to prosecute. Accusations don't always equal guilt and procedures have already been changed regarding those who are let in to the priesthood.

      March 21, 2011 at 9:07 am |
    • Mr. Sniffles

      Gerald, not only did the church not prosecute, they protected the perpetrators from prosecutions with extensive systems of deception and relocation. In doing so, they became felons themselves.

      March 21, 2011 at 10:23 am |
    • chief

      the church cant prosecute them while they are committed to hiding them and moving them around,...... if the church or its people actually did something about it, this wouldnt be a problem.....

      March 21, 2011 at 11:16 am |
    • gerald

      Mr. Sniffles – Everybody says that the Church relocated them because they were child molesters. Well the fact is that they relocated them is proof of nothing since they relocate all priests on a relatively frequent basis. Everybody keeps saying the church should have prosecuted them! Fact is that is a cival matter. It is up to victims to come forward and courts to prosecute. There are some cases where Bishops should have brought allegations forward to authorities but alot less than you and chief believe their should have been. Though a lot more than I wish their had been.

      March 21, 2011 at 12:49 pm |
    • chief

      wow good point gerald.... that makes perfect sense if your a priest, or ped, or a catholic church apoligist..... come man, people dont drink the koolaid your serving...

      March 21, 2011 at 1:08 pm |
    • Doc Vestibule

      @Gerald
      The Vatican swore all parties involved in investigations forwarded to the The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith to secrecy, including the victims, upon penalty of excommunication.
      This preoccupation with secrecy severly slows the search for truth.
      For example, Jose Barba Martin of Mexico tried for years to have his accusations against the founder of the Legionaries of Christ heard by the congregation. In the end, it took eight years for Rome to discipline the Rev Marcial Maciel, and require him to live a life of reserved prayer. Maciel died in 2008 before the Legionaries admitted he had fathered at least one child and molested young seminarians.
      A letter written by a now-dead Canadian bishop shows church officials knew of se.xual abuse allegations involving a priest before his promotion to a top Vatican post and then discussed with Vatican officials how to keep the scandal from becoming public.
      There is also Catholic priest who was defrocked after a nun accused him of rap.ing three children in Bolivia who has been living with his family in Uruguay for more than a year – with the full knowledge of Uruguayan church officials – despite an Interpol warrant for his arrest.

      Historically, the RCC has gone to great lengths to protect their people and interests, shunning outside interference from law enforcement.
      As I've mentioned before, the Irish government found the church was worried about "the maintenance of secrecy, the avoidance of scandal, the protection of the reputation of the Church, and the preservation of its as.sets. All other considerations, including the welfare of children and justice for victims, were subordinated to these priorities."

      March 21, 2011 at 1:16 pm |
    • gerald

      testing why are my comments tagged for moderation.

      March 22, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
    • chief

      great point doc.... there will be a mindless rebuttal which is created to redirect the topic and to indirectly support the peds that have been caught and protect those that havent been caught

      March 22, 2011 at 2:27 pm |
  8. Peace2All

    In my opinion, and view-point, many people seem to get caught up in the RCC's attempt to rectify the many tragic abuses that have come out of the RCC. Obviously, religious and non-religious groups alike have committed atrociti-ties on humanity.

    While there is certainly a multi-tude of heineous crimes coming to light out of the RCC, is it really the most 'useful' debate to be focusing on 'why' the RCC is giving $14,000,000 to Ja-pan, when the country (Ja-pan) is seemingly on the brink of destruction...? Is that 'really' the most important issue here when people are sick, starving, missing, etc...?

    It is an absolute tragedy going on over there, and will take probably years to help get them back on their feet.

    Point being... I am a firm believer, that whatever the alleged agendas of the RCC.... Resources are resources... our fellow "Human Beings" "need" the money, food, water, volunteer, etc...

    Maybe the RCC is trying to make up for a lot of their cover ups, etc... but, really my friends, maybe this is a way for them to give back. I'm not worrying about the 'why's'.... it's the fact that it is getting done.

    Whether it is religious group or an atheist group.... 'People' and 'Organizations' are stepping up and....Making a difference.

    And to me, that is the most important thing right now is that the people of Ja-pan get the love, empathy, compassion and resources they so desperately need so they can heal their country and have a quality of life that has meaning for them.

    Peace...

    March 21, 2011 at 4:17 am |
    • Halleluljah

      Oh, Im very sure they'll get the love if they have'nt already:)

      Got to love the book of Revelation. God is the one causing this to become. Because he has never been with this counterfit christian orginization. As chapter 18 points out she will fall. Along with her counterfit counterparts.

      Saddle up Ladies and Gentlemen it's about to get bumpy! ! ! ! ! ! !

      March 21, 2011 at 5:48 am |
    • Takezo

      LMAO! Hey, Peace! You messed up, man. This thread is about pedo-priests – not J-apan at all.
      And the money isn't even going to the victims.
      I think you are busted, dude. You were skimming the article tltles and did not actually read the article. You are soooo busted.

      March 21, 2011 at 5:48 am |
    • Peace2All

      @Takezo

      Yep... you're absolutely right, ...."my bad" as they say. It was late and posted anyways without really reading and got my articles mixed up. Apologies to all...

      But, thanx for not 'bustin' my chops to hard about it... 🙂

      Peace...

      March 21, 2011 at 11:28 am |
  9. Brian

    This is getting old. The Catholic Church needs to address this issue rather than side-stepping it as they are doing.

    March 21, 2011 at 3:20 am |
  10. Big Brother

    Don't bother changing your user name, Justina. We can easily spot you. Your writing style and especially you content are very distinct.

    You got banned from websites? I just can't imagine that. I imagine your atti-tudes on Libya (it's spelled Libya) are doozies, but "German landscapes"? Did you poison-tongue the mountainous features of the Rhine Valley or something?

    If you don't like bullying, why do you do it?

    March 21, 2011 at 3:11 am |
    • Frederica

      @Big-brother, Am I poison-tongued to you? Why can't you take facts? How do you feel about the filthiest stuff your atheist friends are spewing around? Why are you non-believers so blind to yourselves? You guys bash religious people like hell but cannot take plain facts back from religious people. You guys are spoiled by the sweet, gentle Christians for the longest time. You just want to silence them, that's all, because your hearts are not right.

      March 21, 2011 at 3:52 am |
    • Big Brother

      Your grasp of English is not so good. "Love" does not mean "bitter" and "shrill" and "nagging" and "narrow-minded" and "borderline psychotic" and "nasty, alienated zealot".

      March 21, 2011 at 10:20 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Frederica, you are doing a great job. Everyone that loves their sins hate Jesus' truth, hence why they deny Him. They prefer to stay living a lie. It's easy to be a coward that follows satan's. It takes courage to follow Jesus' truth.

      Amen.

      March 21, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Frederica.. we are not blind, just waiting for your truths to be presented. You have none. Why is anything that you do not agree with considered " filthy" etc. I would say that you are frustrated that we have a fantastic life with out the major constraints that you and your religion has put on you and you are finding out that there is no difference between us. So you are desperately trying to make demons out of us with out success. You may deal with us every day and not realize..we are nice people honestly..but fearless of myths.

      March 21, 2011 at 11:39 pm |
  11. Che-3

    Why is my comments undergoing so-called CNN quote: "Your comment is awaiting moderation."

    Is CNN practicing "Posting Discrimination?"
    That’s what it is! CNN can’t FOOL anyone.

    March 21, 2011 at 2:55 am |
    • Mr. Sniffles

      Basically, a lame computer program at CNN filters many but not all naughty words, even if they are inside other words. The most common is t-i-t, as found in inst-itution and many other words. A hyphen will bypass the filter, as I just did. If you get the "awaiting moderation" line, just go searching for t-i-ts, like a desperate adolescent schoolboy. And don't sit there awaiting, because no human ever comes to moderate it.

      March 21, 2011 at 3:04 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Sniffles, bulloney. Your baloney gets posted while they pick and Choose which of Jesus truth can and cannot be posted. CNN is purposely keeping you the fools, just like them.

      Amen.

      March 21, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • Mr. Sniffles

      You are just a total whack job.

      I get the "awaiting moderation" thing pretty regularly, so I go looking for t-i-ts like an adolescent boy overdosing on testosterone, and when I find them all and hyphenate them, I repost.

      How fricking clueless are you? A conspiracy? That's just nuts

      March 21, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
    • LJ

      That's the problem when one reads literally they are unable to see words inside of words and believe it's a conspiracy. LOL!

      March 22, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
  12. The Half Baked Lunatic

    "god" is an idiotic idea promoted by immoral people to control, pacify, and abuse the weak minded people.

    March 21, 2011 at 2:42 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Half baked lunatic is the correct handle for you.

      Amen.

      March 21, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
  13. ben

    this is crazy how can anyone be apart of this organization they hide things to keep up their image instead of doing the right thing. They lied everyone lied they are criminals.

    March 21, 2011 at 2:36 am |
    • Halleluljah

      They definatly just keep compounding their problems every time the speak!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!

      March 21, 2011 at 5:19 am |
    • gerald

      Halle-What you say is funny because when they don't speak it's either their hiding something or in denial or don't care. Then when they do speak whatever they say is criticized. Sounds like the devil to me.

      March 21, 2011 at 9:09 am |
    • chief

      hey gerald it appears that they didnt care in the past because they did nothing.... and when they do speak it is selfserving worthy of criticism because it is ridiculous.... its people like you defgending them that keeps it going

      March 21, 2011 at 11:13 am |
  14. Eowyn

    The money is not going right into the pockets of those abused . . . "new money will be divided equally between dioceses and religious orders over a period of five years" . . . how is that going to help those who were tormented in the most horrible fashion?
    Padeophiles, whether religious or not are not above the law. If caught they should be caught and punished like any other criminal. No matter how long it takes, no matter age or the health these people need to be brought to justice by a jury of their peers. The church does not get "first dibs" on their members that do wrong. The church will never get caught up on it's moral values by being behind the times. What is mandatory, should be choice; being celibate is just so unatural. What do they intend to do – over populate the planet? Every child should be wanted and planned for, but the size of the family should be a parents's choice, not a religious.

    March 21, 2011 at 2:22 am |
    • Halleluljah

      I really wish cops weren't above their own laws they inforce too. Just not fair.
      Here's your $ 500.00 dollar Golden ticket Sir. Officer now just what speed were you doing to catch up to me? Got to talk the talk and walk the walk if you really want people to listen to and respect you. General comment nothing about u.

      March 21, 2011 at 5:17 am |
  15. Frederica

    Non-believers don't donate even their left-overs. Christians sacrifice even risking their own lives.

    March 21, 2011 at 1:58 am |
    • SB

      I suppose I should call MSF and ask for my donation back since, as you say, we non-believers don't donate even our leftovers. By the way I think your second sentence is a direct insult to the many atheists serving this country in its military. You need to rethink your world view a little. Atheists are just a moral and sacrificing as anyone else. You don't need God to be good, and having God doesn't make you better.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:31 am |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Frederica..If you are so certain of the afterlife how can you risk it in this one? I would thought you would be lined up to get snuffed out., to meet your god chappy. People risk their lives every day for others, people of all faiths and those with out belief.
      IWhat church are you member of ? is it the Westbro.. you sound rude enough to belong.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:33 am |
    • Stand Up

      SB,
      "...and having God doesn't make you better."

      As is evidenced daily here by nasty Frederica/Justina.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:39 am |
    • Frederica

      @SB, EvolvedDNA, Stand-up: I'm sorry my love for atheists never get through to you guys. It's futile to equate Christianity with anything in existence, but you guys are free to imagine up anything. For now. The reason I'm here is because I'm barred to comment on Germany's landscape or Lybia although I'm glad to end up meeting with you guys, like, T-party and EvolvedDNA. The Lord's mercy be upon you.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:52 am |
    • Yup, no doubt about it

      Federica is a new name on Justina. They have exactly the same froth-mouth Charley Manson charm.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:56 am |
    • Frederica

      PS: By "risking life" I mean also "giving until it really, really hurts." Christians love you guys.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:57 am |
    • Jeff

      Bill Gates gave $28 billion to charity.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:57 am |
    • Frederica

      Yup-, isn't this bullying? If none of you atheists didn't abuse my user name, I didn't have to change my user name, though changing user names do not matter. Why do you American atheists bully Christians? It's really evil, you know. You guys are acting just like criminal communists. Know yourself, please. Wake up.

      March 21, 2011 at 3:03 am |
    • Halleluljah

      Go to the ends of the earth to molest little boys?

      March 21, 2011 at 4:54 am |
    • SB

      Frederica, if you refuse to separate rational criticism from bullying then the world is going to seem to be a very hateful place to you. But if you recognize that we all (atheists, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus and everyone) participate in exactly the same sort of “bullying” that you accuse only others of then I guarantee you that the world will start to feel a whole lot less vindictive. So in a last ditch effort to seem like a callous and unloving atheist I implore you to look in a mirror. Perhaps seeing a glimmer of the same sort of hatred in your own eyes that you see in others will enlighten you to the reasons why you elicit the reactions you do.

      March 21, 2011 at 6:48 am |
    • Reality

      Saving 1.5 billion lost Muslim souls:
      There never was and never will be any angels i.e. no Gabriel, no Islam

      Saving 2 billion lost Christian souls:
      There was and never will be any bodily resurrections i.e. No Easter, no Christianity

      Saving 15.5 million Orthodox followers of Judaism:
      Abraham and Moses never existed.

      Added details upon request.

      March 21, 2011 at 7:48 am |
    • HeavenSent

      Frederica, remember, those that refuse to learn on earth go into paradise butt naked.

      Evolved, the reason others can give their life up for their fellow man is because of Jesus' teachings. You'll call it something else, I'm sure. You are just like Esau. Traitor that denies his Heritage. Read about Cain too. You're all cut from the same clothe. You will be judged just as false preachers are judged for denying Jesus' truth and putting a spin to His teachings. You folks are the first in line for judgment. Remember that and change your ways. It's never to late. You decide and right now, you are not fighting for your soul's survival.

      Amen.

      March 21, 2011 at 12:53 pm |
    • Stevedore Boatwright

      Butt-naked paradise definitely sounds like the way to go, especially since the religious kooks won't be there.

      March 21, 2011 at 7:29 pm |
    • EvolvedDNA

      Heavensent..go into heaven butt naked.. you make stuff up as you go along .. but that sounds like fun actually. Should start working out anyway as we will have start flying naked soon for security reasons. The rest of what you said was the usual diatribe with out proof. None of the characters you tell us about exist other than in your mind... by the way, both god and the devil do appear in "Time Bandits" its an older movie. They are much nicer than you make out.

      March 21, 2011 at 11:25 pm |
  16. Mary

    That's great, now what the heck does CNN only focus on scandal of religion. I have never, not once read anything positive coming from Religious groups on CNN. Why is that? Maybe because CNN is tabloid media?

    March 21, 2011 at 1:43 am |
    • TruVision

      The US government have created a new globalization utopian religion. The government has spent probably over a trillion dollars in propaganda using the media like CNN and others to attack and destroy all other religions in the world. These people here are only saying what they been brainwash to say. It's expected. Money well spent.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:58 am |
    • Che-3

      CNN ONLY reports good things about Tea Baggers. Any Tea Bagger or Tea Party member can post any RACIST and Insulting comments on CNN and will NEVER be "DELETED" or "Filtered" or undergo CNN so-called discrimination quotes: "Your comment is awaiting moderation." They cry FOUL like cry babies when other countries do the SAME to them.

      March 21, 2011 at 3:03 am |
    • Mr. Sniffles

      Oh dear, must be a full moon.

      Mary, if you look at the articles on the Belief Blog, you will see that the vast majority are total creampuff articles for religion. The Catholic Church's problems continue to make the news because they handle them so badly and make things worse for themselves. Not that CNN is anything wonderful – they aren't, but for us atheists, we can't understand why so much religion gets any press, much less so much good press.

      TruVision, WOW! You actually believe that? WOW!

      Che-3, see my post below on the "awaiting moderation" thing. It is not discrimination, it's just a lousy program. If you noticed, the "awaiting moderation" came up instantly – no human could have had time to read it and discriminate. Not a conspiracy, just a lame program.

      March 21, 2011 at 3:39 am |
    • Halleluljah

      MARY
      Is it really CNN? Revelation 18. Babylon the Great = false religion.

      March 21, 2011 at 5:07 am |
  17. Ian Paisley

    You can toss off your little IRA rants all you like, Jacky boy, but your child molesting church did it to themselves without a even a wee bit of help from us. Go on, blame us for your own mistakes. Nothing new there.

    March 21, 2011 at 1:39 am |
    • gerald

      Ian,

      There are plently of child molesters in your protestant churches as well. They just don't get as much attention because Church structure does not make for such huge lawsuits. Do a search for baptist peds or go to reformation.com. Check out phil jenkins work.

      March 21, 2011 at 9:13 am |
    • chief

      gerald is a priest which trolls these blogs with ridiculous diversions from the topic.... hard to divert 14 million and 28 prior million .... oh yeah i see the baptist doing this, and coaches and whoever you want to make up ....

      March 21, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • gerald

      And chief is a troll who likes to make up lies and distortions about anyone who disagrees with his "you should only talk about them being guilty" postings. he complains when someone says "there are many good priests and bishops that have not been involved in this". He even goes so far as accusing someone who makes such statements of being a priest and a child molester. I wish I was a priest. The majority are good men and do not bear false witness like chief does so casually.

      God bless ya chief.

      March 21, 2011 at 12:43 pm |
    • chief

      only charlie sheen calls people trolls..... nope... i limit my comments to the guilty (i never say all ) and to those who try to divert the topics away from the guily by talking about other stuff.... ( like you ) or other priests or whatever you are that sees a need to dilute the problem...

      March 21, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • Carlos Estevez

      A bit of a digression if you don't mind Does anyone else get the impression that drugs made Charlie Sheen's vocabulary a whole lot more interesting and colorful? I have the feeling that screenwriters are embarrassed by the fact that a drugged-out actor comes up with better lines than they do, and suddenly crack is selling very well in the Hollywood Hills as they go looking for their own mercury surfboards. It couldn't make movies any worse than they already are.

      Okay, digression over. Go back to hating each other.

      March 21, 2011 at 8:49 pm |
    • Colin

      Yep. child molesters in many, many churches. As well as famous ministers having affairs, stealing people blind, defrauding people, popes with wives and concubines, popes kidnapping children (look up Edgardo Moratora) etc, etc, etc. I say, let's close down all churches-humanity would be better off, because it would require people to THINK, and not just blindly 'believe' whatever drivel is fed to them.

      March 21, 2011 at 11:45 pm |
    • gerald

      So Colin, I take it there are no child molesters, raptists, drug addicts, perverts, etc. among "Thinking" people who don't have religion. Ya right. There are at least as many.

      March 22, 2011 at 5:24 pm |
    • gerald

      Chief, are you god or something? You seem to thing that these boards are only for what you think should be talked about. You have one heck of an ego.

      March 22, 2011 at 5:34 pm |
    • chief

      no not God.... i acutally read the posts and the topics an comment appropriately... instead of changing the topic away from ped priests and the people in the catholic church who harbor them, i usually speak about the topic.... unlike people like you who basically think everyone out here is stupid enough to see you defending the peds and the church.... you are either helpping or hurting.... if your not helping the kids... then.,.... so if your church is greater than abused kids, then that put you in a real precaious spot.... sheep

      March 23, 2011 at 10:11 am |
  18. jeannie kerrigan

    And I was wondering if we will ever hear about what they will do about the children of those who have been abused by the ones who were victims of priest abuse.....my father grew up in the seminary, was abused and then abused! Man.............the church!

    March 21, 2011 at 12:49 am |
  19. Steven

    Wow, go Catholics, show the world the dogs you are. If they promised $1 Billion I would still be upset. Paying hush money to people to not speak out or continue to defame the Catholic church and their *holy* ways. You are a multi TRILLION dollar GLOBAL corporation, 14 Million is what the Church down from me probably takes tax free every year or so.

    Go away you group of middle age mongrels.

    March 21, 2011 at 12:47 am |
    • RainyC

      Steven, this was my thought, too. This is just a wee drop in the bucket. This is a sect of secretive men, a society if you will, the world will never truly know the likes of. They have been around for so long, are so ingrained in everything, involved in everything, there is no getting any justice. I keep getting the saying, "what would Jesus do?" in all of this, and I'm pretty sure he's pretty disgusted. This is just one of many instances that have amde me give up faith in any organized religion of any kind. It's all self-serving, hypocritcal BS. Do as I say, not as I do in the closet where no one can see. And the Pope now? He should never been placed in the position he is in now. Ever. He KNEW a long time ago what was going on and did nothing, and is just coming out to say he will work on repairing the damage? Please. He's a HUGE part of the problem. It will continue to be a problem, continue to happen, as long as men as secretive as this are allowed to be, and held above the law.

      March 21, 2011 at 2:37 am |
    • Bob

      God bless you Steven, and the horse you rode in on.

      March 21, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
  20. There Are No Gods!

    good job catholics, cover it up no matter the cost!

    March 21, 2011 at 12:27 am |
    • Doug

      This what I expect them to do, however, what I don't expect is people to still give them money... That is worse than the church !

      March 21, 2011 at 3:47 am |
    • Halleluljah

      Pope's favorite quote "WHO WANTS TO HAVE A TEA BAG PARTY"!!!!!!!!!!!

      March 21, 2011 at 5:00 am |
    • Halleluljah

      Perhaps April 16th of each year we could throw him this party??????? After all that is his birthday.

      March 21, 2011 at 5:36 am |
    • gerald

      This has nothing to do with covering it up. This has to do with counseling of victims who have come forward.

      March 21, 2011 at 12:39 pm |
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