Muslim Americans on edge
March 27th, 2011
01:00 AM ET

In key American Muslim enclave, alienation is growing

Editor’s note: The original version of this story omitted the fact that the attorney for Roger Stockham, who was charged with making terrorist threats against a Dearborn mosque, says his client is a Muslim convert.

By Dan Gilgoff, CNN.com Religion Editor

Madison Heights, Michigan (CNN) - Dawud Walid asked the worshipers for a show of hands: How many had heard about the Muslim radicalization hearings in Washington earlier that day?

About half of the 50 or so Muslims in the banquet hall-turned-mosque indicated that they had.

So Walid, executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations’ Michigan chapter, briefed the other half about the hearing, calling it an “unfortunate first in American history.”

Then he went further, warning about what he said were a handful of growing threats to American Muslims.

“As we approach the 10th anniversary of September 11, we are seeing unprecedented acts of Islamophobia,” Walid told the worshipers at the American Islamic Community Center, 10 miles north of Detroit.

“After 9/11, it was coming from a few right-wingers,” he said. “But now, in 2011, we’re seeing it from Congress.”

Walid went on to tell the congregation that a dozen states - from Georgia to Missouri to New Mexico - are considering bans on Sharia, or Islamic law, and warned that such bans could lead to prohibitions on women wearing the hijab, or headscarf, and even on Muslims worshiping Allah.

“Praying five times a day is Sharia,” he said. “Do you go to jail for that?”

As one of the largest and oldest Muslim enclaves in the nation - and, with its century-old ties to Ford Motor Co., one that’s intimately bound up in the modern American story - the metro Detroit community is perhaps as close as one can get to the soul of American Islam.

At a time when the country is wrestling with its views on Islam, the faith causes relatively little friction in the largely Arab cocoon of southeast Michigan.

But narratives playing out in the national media, from the radicalization hearings spearheaded by New York Republican Rep. Peter King to the wave of proposed Sharia bans to anticipation of the September 11 anniversary, have left many Muslims here feeling ostracized in their own country.

The community is growing more defensive in the face of what many here say is a national climate of suspicion reminiscent of the period immediately after the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

In response to what he called “a spike in anti-Muslim bigotry,” Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Illinois, is holding a Senate Judiciary subcommittee hearing Tuesday on “measures to protect the rights of American Muslims.”

Witnesses will include Roman Catholic Cardinal Theodore McCarrick - the former archbishop of Washington - and the top civil rights officials from the administrations of Barack Obama and George W. Bush.

On this Thursday night, however, worshipers at the American Islamic Community Center echoed the embattled tone of the guest speaker from Center for American-Islamic Relations.

Hadir Ghazala, a 49-year-old Iraqi immigrant in a black-and-white polka-dot hijab, said she’d been turned down for jobs at local salons because she refused to remove her headscarf.

Mohammed Elzhemni, 39, bemoaned what he called a growing national stereotype of Muslims as terrorists.

“These people raise their families and work hard,” he said, gesturing to a cluster of small children chasing each other across the mosque’s faux marble floor. “I’m a manager at GM and work to make the country better. This is the true face of Islam.”

At a time when King and others are alleging that radical American Muslims pose an under-acknowledged threat to national security, a popular refrain among Detroit-area Muslims is that they’re the ones under attack.

The sentiment is especially acute at the Islamic Center of America, which calls itself the nation’s largest mosque.

This year, police said they thwarted an explosives attack on the house of worship in Dearborn, just west of Detroit city limits. In January, police arrested a man in the center’s parking lot in a car they said was packed with fireworks.

Police said the suspect, Roger Stockham, drove to Dearborn from California. He faces two felony charges carrying maximum sentences of up to 20 years.

The arrest provoked state and local law enforcement agencies to urge the 70,000-square-foot mosque to bolster security and develop a new emergency response plan.

“We’ve never had an incident like that, where we were targeted by someone who wanted to do us harm based on who we are,” said Kassem Allie, the center’s executive administrator.

To Allie, the incident is evidence that some Americans are being radicalized against Islam, turning the allegation of growing Muslim radicalization on its head.

“The suspect was apparently radicalized quite some time ago,” Allie said. “And there are other instances of radicalization that are of great concern to us.

“I have no problem addressing Islamic radicalization,” he said, monitoring the mosque's security cameras from a computer screen in his ground-floor office. “But there should be an acknowledgment that other communities have the same problem.”

Indeed, a common complaint around Dearborn, the epicenter of southeast Michigan’s Muslim community, is that the only time religion is mentioned in a crime story is when the suspect is Muslim.

“When Timothy McVeigh did his bombing, we didn’t investigate or blame Christianity,” said Al Machy, 32, referring to the 1995 attack on a federal building in Oklahoma City that left 168 dead.

Machy works behind the counter at the Golden Bakery on Warren Avenue, a miles-long Dearborn strip lined with halal butchers, hookah bars, Lebanese restaurants and locally owned groceries with names like Baghdad Market and Sahara West. Signs for most businesses are in Arabic.

“Every day, there are hundreds of rapes and murders, and they never put the words 'Christian' or 'Jewish' in the story,” said Machy, an Iraqi refugee who arrived in the U.S. after the Gulf War.

Unlike most such crimes, in which religion doesn’t appear to be an issue, recent instances of homegrown terrorism - such as 2009’s Fort Hood shooting and last year’s failed Times Square bomb plot - were allegedly carried out in the name of Islam.

But many Muslims around Dearborn say those cases garner inordinate news attention while recent attacks against Muslim Americans, including the defacing and burning of mosques, are largely neglected.

According to the Justice Department, there were 107 anti-Muslim hate-crime incidents in 2009, the most recent year for which statistics are available, compared with 28 such incidents in 2000.

After a sharp spike in 2001, when there were 481 anti-Muslim hate crime incidents, there have since been fewer than 200 such incidents annually, though there were generally fewer than 50 in the years before 2001.

Muslim advocacy groups, including the Council on American-Islamic Relations, say they have seen a more recent uptick in anti-Muslim threats and violence.

Officials at the Islamic Center of America, which draws about 1,200 worshipers for Friday prayers, say local law enforcement encouraged them to take a low-key public stance on the January explosives arrest. Authorities wanted to avoid inspiring copycat attacks or reprisals, mosque officials said.

The mosque issued a news release after the suspect’s arrest but limited its interviews with the media. Chuck Alawan, 80, a founding board member of the mosque, has some regrets about the mosque keeping relatively quiet about the incident.

“You never hear about all the threats against mosques,” Alawan said in the thick Midwestern accent of a lifelong Michigan resident.

“I was born in this country, and I have never felt persecuted,” he said. “But it’s getting close to that.”

As Alawan spoke, a surveyor from the Michigan Department of Transportation was setting up equipment on the mosque’s lawn as part of a “vulnerability study” after the January incident.

Last week, the Islamic Center of America learned that the Florida pastor who triggered an international firestorm last year by threatening to burn the Quran would take part in an April protest at the mosque.

The protest against "Sharia and Jihad" is scheduled for Good Friday, two days before Easter.

"It is necessary that we set very clear lines for Muslims that are here in America,” Terry Jones, the Florida pastor, said in a statement Wednesday announcing his plans to protest at the Dearborn mosque. "If they desire to change our Constitution, in other words to institute Sharia, then these Muslims are no longer welcome in our country."

Officials at the Islamic Center of America are still deciding how to respond, though they are leaning toward a Good Friday counter-event that would bring together religious leaders of different backgrounds to encourage tolerance and interfaith dialogue.

"For us to try to fight fire with fire like in this case - to fight hate with hate - is really unproductive and actually destructive," said Allie, the mosque's executive administrator. "Under different circumstances, we'd welcome a dialogue with Terry Jones or other detractors, but it's got to be civilized."

Developments like the mosque protest have some local law enforcement officials sympathizing with growing Muslim anxiety.

Dearborn Police Chief Ronald Haddad is among them. He estimates that he has received 10,000 anti-Muslim “hate e-mails,” some calling him a “Taliban police chief” or alleging that he’s persecuting Christians.

The senders assume he’s Muslim because of his last name, Haddad says, even though he’s a Christian of Lebanese descent.

Like Alawan and Haddad, many Arab-Americans in the area trace their local roots back generations. The first big wave of Middle Easterners arrived in southeast Michigan around 1910 to man Henry Ford’s automobile plants in Highland Park and Dearborn.

Those immigrants were mostly Christians from the area that is now Lebanon but was then part of the Ottoman Empire.

“Ford seemed to think that that this particular segment of the empire was industrious and productive and a good source of cheap labor,” said Saeed Khan, a lecturer in Islamic history, politics and culture at Wayne State University in Detroit.

Khan said Ford also favored immigrants from that region because, unlike some other groups, they tended to be light-skinned.

After the defeated Ottoman Empire was carved up at the end of World War I, Christians were given favored status in the newly created Lebanon, provoking more Muslims to exit the region. Some wound up in new Arab strongholds like metro Detroit.

“Especially after Henry Ford announced the $5 workday, (immigrants) would get off the train in Detroit looking for work, and police would pick them up and take them to Ford’s Rouge plant to apply,” Dearborn Mayor John O’Reilly said, referring to a huge Dearborn manufacturing facility that opened in the 1920s.

Today, southeast Michigan’s Muslim population is estimated at nearly half a million, Khan said. Though there are larger Muslim populations in New York and Southern California, there are few places in the country with such a heavy concentration of Muslims.

“Once Henry Ford established that community, it had a pull effect and became an epicenter of Arab life,” Khan said. “It was influenced by employment opportunities and the availability of resources like mosques and schools.”

Though Dearborn retains its Lebanese flavor, the area’s Muslim community includes many immigrants from India, Pakistan, Yemen and elsewhere, along with a growing Eastern European contingent and many African-Americans.

The historic Muslim presence here helps explain why local allegations of Islamophobia are pretty rare - and why Haddad, the police chief, suspects that most of his anti-Muslim e-mail is from outsiders.

Zeinab Dbouk-Chaayto, a recent immigrant from Lebanon, says that she was the only woman donning a hijab when she took classes recently at Madonna University, a Catholic school in Livonia, just west of Dearborn, but that no one gave her any trouble.

The school’s conservative culture jibed with her Muslim values. “There’s no partying and no alcohol,” she said, adding that administrators in a school office where she worked even threw her a baby shower and a birthday party.

Local law enforcement officials, for their part, say they strengthened ties to greater Detroit’s Muslim leadership after September 11, launching a program called Bridges to create an ongoing dialogue between those leaders and the FBI, state and local law enforcement, and other government agencies.

“Sometimes, there’s a relative who feels that someone in the family might be doing things that probably aren’t in the long-term best interest of the country, and they want to bring that forward,” said O’Reilly, the Dearborn mayor, explaining the program.

“But they don’t want to be responsible for throwing a family member in jail,” he said. “There’s a delicacy to that, so they have a dialogue about where people can bring this stuff forward.”

Haddad, the Dearborn police chief, said the Bridges program helped create a parents’ task force to combat gang activity in the city’s Yemeni community. That move contributed to an 11% drop in crime in the heavily Yemeni South End neighborhood last year, he said.

At the same time, many Muslims around Dearborn are convinced that they are under government surveillance, exacerbating feelings of alienation.

Sitting with friends at the Islamic Center of America, Alawan says, they often joke that law enforcement has the mosque’s phones tapped and its rooms bugged.

“The agencies will deny it,” he said. “But we know they’re doing it.”

The suspicion was given credence after FBI agents killed a Muslim cleric in an October 2009 raid in Dearborn.

The charges against the imam, Luqman Ameen Abdullah - which included mail fraud and the illegal possession and sale of firearms - were based on information from three confidential FBI informants who’d infiltrated Abdullah’s mosque.

The case raised the specter of government spies in other Dearborn area mosques and prompted a 2010 letter of protest from Michigan Democratic Rep. John Conyers to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.

“People of all faiths should be free to worship without undue fear that the person in the next pew is a government agent,” Conyers wrote, invoking the FBI’s wiretapping of the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. as a regrettable precedent for such surveillance.

Many Muslims around Dearborn find it ironic that what they see as a growing suspicion of Muslims in America comes at a time when much of the Arab world, from Tunisia to Egypt to Libya, is rising up against despotic leaders and demanding more U.S.-style freedoms.

“While the Islamic world is rising up against dictatorship, dishonesty, deception and corruption … America should show solidarity with people who are looking for dignity and democracy,” Imam Mohammad Ali Elahi told hundreds of worshipers at recent Friday prayers at the Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights, a mosque situated across the street from Henry Ford Community College.

“That’s not the right time to bring another wave of Islamophobia and ignorance,” he said, blasting the King hearings of the previous day. “It is so dangerous to provoke people who are ready to commit hate crimes with this kind of wrong information.”

Elahi wasn’t referring to the danger of inciting Muslim radicals to commit terrorism against the United States. The threat, in his eyes, is that Americans will be provoked to terrorize Muslims.

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Islam • Michigan • Muslim

soundoff (3,082 Responses)
  1. DM

    Why don't you run a story about all the horrific things Muslims do to each other around the world? It's not like the religion's reputation is totally undeserved.

    March 27, 2011 at 7:22 am |
    • Greg

      EVERY religion has done horrific things to its' population and Cahloic or Christians are no exception. Muslim have a long way to go to reach the body count of the well established religions.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:26 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth, god isn't real

      they're all bad, they all keep people stupid, they all hold back humanity, and they are all not real.

      March 27, 2011 at 8:42 am |
    • Check 1

      I agree with you..... Christians and Muslims have done some horrible things.

      March 27, 2011 at 11:45 pm |
  2. Greg


    What thought are you trying to convey. Did you proof read your post before hitting the post button because your post doesn't have any clarity to it.

    March 27, 2011 at 7:19 am |
  3. Puretruth

    Only islam is to blame!!!
    why the religion is who to blam when it's a muslim making any mistake?
    stop the ignorance and stop blaming the religion.

    March 27, 2011 at 7:06 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth, god isn't real

      all religions are to blame, they all need to die (religions, not the idiots that are religious).

      March 27, 2011 at 8:41 am |
  4. Wa123

    The owner of this world and the only god is called Allah he sended all religions but humans long time they changed it and put there own rules we all going to die one day ,and there is heaven and hell it's all up to you pace be upon all humans

    March 27, 2011 at 7:05 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth, god isn't real

      yeah? where is your proof allah or any god of any religion actually exists?

      March 27, 2011 at 8:41 am |
  5. El Kababa

    More Americans died of the flu last month than have ever been killed by Muslim terrorists. More Americans by far were killed by other Americans in gang fights, domestic violence, drug deals, gun accidents, and drunk driving incidents than have ever been killed by Muslim terrorists. We could save more American lives by convincing them to wear seat belts than we can save by fighting terrorists. We could save a lot more lives by convincing Americans to lose weight than we ever could by opposing terrorism.

    Muslim lunatics who plot to kill Americans are criminals and they should be arrested, tried, and punished, like all criminals. Hating Muslims does not help us apprehend those criminals. The problem is not Islam. The problem is criminals.

    March 27, 2011 at 6:56 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      Sorry El Kabob

      Shouting about Flu or Seat Belts is not going to help sell weapon systems. We need Moslems. Ugly, bearded, aliens. "THEY ARE HERE TO KILL US". "THEY HATE US". This sells weapon systems and security systems to the government. "FLU IS COMING" "THE FLU IS GONNA KILL YOU". that is not going to get you a big MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR contract, sorry.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:17 am |
    • Elsa

      No, the problem is that they are using religion as a basis from which to justify doing evil things like violence upon innocent people, including people whose only crime was that they did not consider themselves Muslims.

      Christians do the exact same thing, so I cannot help but look upon Christians with revulsion when they point at Muslims or any other religion. That's why I look at Muslims who revile other religions and "un-believers" with revulsion.

      And all of this is because religions use words that can be used in violent ways.

      If every believer ignored the words of the Quran and just lived well and in peace and harmony with others instead of using the words to indoctrinate their families, then I very much doubt there would be any cause for complaint by anyone in the world.
      The problem is the religion. This religious violence needs to be stomped down in every religion throughout the world.
      And this includes child molestation and child slavery – both of which are still going FULL BLAST in Muslim countries by MUSLIMS!
      Peace and harmony? When you murder the parents and enslave their children? Still? Like TODAY?
      And the words of the Muslim religion says this is okay.
      And they are going by the words of their religion. The religion is the problem. All religion is the problem.

      March 27, 2011 at 8:18 am |
  6. Woody Bailey

    We should allow them to worship Allah in this country. But are Christians allowed to build churches in Islamic lands. No, that would desecrate the land so therefore it is forbidden. And they certainly wouldn't be allowed to announce their services over blaring loudspeakers. Also, once Muslims become a majority and seize power Christians will be restricted in sharing or practicing their faith even in their own land. Islam is a geo-political religion. It's goal is always to seize control and dominate. It demands unquestioned allegiance to Allah and especially the clerics.

    March 27, 2011 at 6:52 am |
    • truthfull

      finally some common sence

      March 27, 2011 at 6:55 am |
    • Greg

      ANY religions' goal is to spread its influence and gain power. Did you ever hear of missionaries? What do you think they do? They try to convert people to their belief system so they can have influence in an area. You think that Cathlolics are innocent of any kind of power grab? They just apologozed recently for making Galileo renounce all of his writing and putting under house arrest for life back in the 17th century. Why do you think they did that? He was a threat to their power because he had scientific explaination for things that the Catholic had attributed to God. Wake up. All religions are the same in regards to wanting more power.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:03 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      @ Woody Bailey

      the only way Muslims are going to become a MAJORITY in your home, is because they spend the time and effort to raise kids. They get married, treat their women with respect and dignity, stay married for life, go out and work, and raise families. On the other hand, YOU, think women are just se x objects, to be glorified on TV and in the local bars. Result? You are not having any children. 200 years from now, there will be only muslims left in your lands! you will be extinct because of your own SELFISHNESS and inability to REPRODUCE which requires SACRIFICE and COMMITMENT, qualities YOU DO NOT POSSESS.

      So if Muslims take over and start closing your churches, I say, GOOD RIDDANCE! your churches do not deserve to be open, because your religion is useless if it cannot create individuals that have the ability to REPRODUCE SUCCESSFULLY!

      March 27, 2011 at 7:04 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      @ Woody Bailey

      My point being, DO NOT BLAME MUSLIMS for what is basically, your own fault. If you want to stay ahead of Muslims, then learn to reproduce successfully. Instead of wasting your time manufacturing weapons of mass destruction, learn to manufacture healthy religious children. Muslims are not going to become MAJORITY in your nations by manufacturing weapons, they can't even manufacture a bicycle in the entire Muslim World. they are going to become MAJORITY by excelling at building FAMILIES. FAMILIES are the FUTURE, you are only the present, once you die, there is nothing left of you or your religion, unless you have kids, to whom you pass it on.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:08 am |
    • Greg


      Why do you think that everyone in the US works at weapons factories? Why the preoccupation with weapons? Building a bomb does not make you a President and has nothing to do with gaining power and changing policy.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:16 am |
    • TiredofH8tred

      Those are NOT free countries so the question is silly. People of all faiths come to America and often for a better life and more opportunity. They come for FREEDOM. See what they get! It is repulsive!

      March 27, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
    • Lucy

      You are so right, Woody. And then when the "poor" Muslims take over and say, Bow to Allah or die, then what? Al of these whining, name-calling, cowardly Americans will wish they had stood up to the threat of Islam.

      March 28, 2011 at 4:37 pm |
  7. Katie

    Very sad articles. I hope people can learn that Muslims, those that are our peace-loving and living neighbors, are no different from you and I.

    March 27, 2011 at 6:49 am |
    • Hebe

      If they are no different, then why call themselves by a different name?

      They say they are part of this group that's a different group than the one I'm in.

      They insist on identifying with this group and that is the problem.

      They call themselves "American Muslims" or "Muslim-Americans" yet they are not seeing that this is counter-productive.

      We are all human. They are being stupid ones. I wish I could help them, but I am not considered one of their "group".
      I am an outsider.
      I can wave to them from across the street, but when are they going to join humanity?

      You know, the group-identlty we all share? When are religious people going to realize that? They are the ones insisting on the separation, not me. Their group-identlty is too insular. It takes them years to integrate into American society, like anyone else. But if they refuse to integrate, what can I do about it? They are not required to do anything in particular.
      I'm just complaining. I'm not imposing "Sharia" law or anything else on them. That's what religious people like to do to others.

      Getting along with each other is hard if no one wants to actually do so.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:54 am |
    • Jason

      Katie, if they are peace loving, they are not really Muslims, and should stop pretending to be. Then there would be no confusion about who is who and what is what.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:58 pm |
    • TiredofH8tred

      You are wrong Jason. Ignorant and Wrong.

      March 27, 2011 at 10:14 pm |
  8. Kris

    whats goin on ? why so many muslim-propaganda articles lately ? That is not good you know. I dont give a damn about your religion (islam) but maybe you could stop putting it everywhere ? Annoying+fake = islam

    March 27, 2011 at 6:35 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth

      Annoying + Fake = all religions.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:45 am |
    • Check 1

      I agree with you, those Muslims and Christians sure know how to kill.

      March 27, 2011 at 11:47 pm |
    • Syriac

      Muslims kill in the name of their god.
      Christians kill when they are disobeying their God

      March 31, 2011 at 5:25 pm |
  9. truthfull

    this is the real face of islam
    Muslims Attack Christian in Egypt, Cut Off His Ear
    A group of Muslims attacked Ayman Anwar Mitri, a 45 year old Christian Coptic man in the Upper Egyptian town of Qena, cutting off his ear. The Muslims claimed they were applying Sharia law because Mr. Mitri allegedly had an illicit affair with a Muslim woman. The Muslims called the police and told them "We have applied the law of Allah, now come and apply your law," according to Mr. Mitri in an interview for the Egyptian Human Rights Organization

    March 27, 2011 at 6:33 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      this is the real face of non islam
      Non-Muslims Attack Muslims in Iraq, Cut Off The Ears of 100,000 Iraqis
      A group of Non-Muslims attacked 1,000 Aymans, Anwars, and Mitris, in the Upper and Lower parts of Iraq, cutting off their ears (well they bombed them to death, so they might as well have cut the ears of the dead corpses, same thing). The Non-Muslims claimed they were applying Regime Change law because the Iraqis were allegedly had an illicit President named Saddam Hussein. The Non-Muslims called the UN and told them "We have applied the law of Regime Change, now come and apply your peacekeeping," not according to Mr. Mitri in an interview (because he is already dead from the bombings)

      March 27, 2011 at 6:40 am |
    • TiredofH8tred

      The CULTURE in Egypt is different than here. The application of the law is different. You cannot apply it here. Third world countries ARE NOT THE SAME. WAKE UP!!!

      March 27, 2011 at 10:13 pm |
    • Check 1

      You are not too bright..... Egypt has the largest amount of Christians in the middle east. You don't have to lie.

      March 27, 2011 at 11:50 pm |
  10. Kyle

    The fact that any person of any religion in America, the supposed 'melting pot' of the world, is threatened by their neighbor is absurd. Hating someone because of their belief in any other God is insanity. These people are law abiding citizens of the United States of America, who contribute to the wellfare of their neighbors and the nation on a regular basis. If you fear someone because their religion is different from yours, then look back in to the history of your own and see that others were once afraid of yours as well, and with better reason to be.

    The inability of people to accept differences of one another is the reason that war is fought world wide. The reason that fathers and mothers, and brothers and sisters, and sons and daughters die every day. So why not take a step forward and give someone a chance to prove themselves?

    March 27, 2011 at 6:26 am |
    • Jarod47

      Kyle , Hating someone because of their belief in any other God is ... RELIGION! Get rid of the 'gods', they are just imagined anyway, and hate will disappear.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:10 am |
  11. mike

    Awww...poor muslims. Once they are in power, then maybe america will wake up.

    March 27, 2011 at 6:20 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth

      Their power will wither and die as soon as we are no longer dependent on oil, and that day is coming FAST HAHA!

      March 27, 2011 at 6:34 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      yes, but to get in power, they will have to imitate their "sleeping American brethren", by building factories of weapons of mass manufacturing and planes and aircraft carriers and bombs that only blow themselves up, but a million people in the entire city around them.

      Tough ask, at the moment, the muslims can't even collectively build a bicycle.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:36 am |
    • Greg

      (B)iraq: You don't get power in the US by building weapons factories. How old are you? You get power by being elected into office where you can influence and change policy.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:52 am |
    • TiredofH8tred

      Mike....stop letting unwarranted fear rule your life. FEAR is the best way to brainwash people and you have fallen for it....hook, line, and sinker.

      March 27, 2011 at 10:11 pm |
    • Check 1

      If Americans didn't wake-up after Bush, they are a lost cause. ...did we find the WMDs after bombing the innocent men, women, and babies? ...such good Christians. lol

      March 28, 2011 at 12:04 am |
  12. ma1961

    Wow, I'm flabergasted, first they say they love our country, but then they want to change it to their customs, all they want to do is take over our land, I say stop immigration now, and get rid of hussein obama now, just out of curiosity, why didnt obama tell us his middle name was hussein before we voted him in office?

    March 27, 2011 at 6:10 am |
    • VUP

      He did. We voted for him anyway because he didn't act like a retard.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:36 am |
    • Katie

      Where in this article did it say Muslims want to change American customs? Did you read the article? I ask with all do respect because I can't connect your words with what I just read.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:37 am |
    • Micael

      I voted for him because he sounded like a genius compared to the right-wing fascists.
      The problem is that he is now stuck in office working with, against, and for the uber-wealthy racist bigots that run this country.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:40 am |
    • Greg

      ....uhhh his middle name was well known BEFORE he was elected. In this day and age good luck hiding anything when running for office. Some people, like yourself, tried to convince people that because of his name that he must be muslim and he must have a secret plot to subvert the USA.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:48 am |
    • Micael

      Isn't it sad when ignorant people are given dangerous technology? They blow things up or listen to people on Faux Nooz.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:42 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth, god isn't real

      The basis of islam is to spread (similar to other religions) and kill those that don't convert to islam, hence violent religion and religious fanatics. All religions will eventually die as man will evolve out of the childlike phase and need to believe in the supernatural to explain the complexities of the universe and answer questions they do not yet have answers to. Religion is ignorance.

      March 27, 2011 at 8:37 am |
    • TiredofH8tred

      No one is trying to change America to fit Muslim needs so that statement was a lie that you have now made truth in your little tiny brain. Stop immigration?? Whose radical now? He did say his middle name before he was elected. Everyone knew it. Were you under a rock? My hope is you don't EVER give advice to anyone!!!

      March 27, 2011 at 10:10 pm |
    • Check 1

      I hate the Churches, Mosque, and Synagogs......maybe they all need to just practice their beliefs at home?

      March 28, 2011 at 12:00 am |
  13. honesty

    Jews, Christians and others have a track record of violence and hate. The animosity toward Muslims is not warranted. Oh, and I am atheist, but we have our share of hateful people as well.

    March 27, 2011 at 6:09 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth

      All religious people have a track record of violence and hate. All religions are BS, fake, man made, and ridiculous.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:44 am |
    • lissy

      "All religious people have a track record of hate and violence." Sad if you actually believe that. Obviously MANY many religious people do, but not ALL.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:53 pm |
  14. theoldadam

    Islam has a undeniable track record of violence and hate. It's no wonder there are hearings. People don't want this place to eventually look like Iran, Syria, Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, etc., etc, etc..

    March 27, 2011 at 5:56 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      >> Islam has a undeniable track record of violence and hate.

      but compared to western civilization, the violence of Islam is like petty squabbling. When you look at the past 100 years, World War One, World War Two, Jewish Holocaust, the Communist Purges, the African Massacres, it seems Muslims are like little children in comparison. Blowing themselves up! and dealing in small home-made bombs and left-over poisonous gas from Western factories of Weapons mass manufacturing.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:17 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth

      Islam has a undeniable track record of violence and hate.

      Yep, it is a violent religion.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:33 am |
    • Hebe

      "the African massacres"...which ones? The ones in Sudan where Muslims slaughtered and tortured millions?
      The ones in Egypt against Coptic Christians? The ones done by Muslims? Muslims who are only following the same words that you follow?
      You follow the same words. Christians are just as bad. Jews, too. Buddhists have their massacres as do other religions.

      The problem is the religion, and you cannot deflect us from the truth that you follow the same words and therefore are likely to use those words in the same way.
      Islam is a lie no matter how many people you kill or mutilate or persecute.
      I say the same to all religions. They are lies no matter how strongly they believe or how nice they are at the moment.
      Religions are not based in truth, but in lies. There is no need for religion if you are willing to live in truth, in reality.
      We all have to live together, so it would be better if you quit using your religions for decision-making, for the words of most religions can be twisted to any violent ends.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:37 am |
  15. Bashir Ahmed

    Mr. Frank_Robinson, May I ask you sir, if there was any Pakistani involved in 9/11 bombings? After defeating Soviet Union, US deserted the valiant Afghan people with the trophy of being the sole supper power. They were then honored as Mujahideens (Islamic Fighters) by the US and now labeled as terrorist. If then the US had given them a helping hand and build Afghanistan, any abhorrent act like 9/11 would have never ever taken place. Pakistanis themselves are facing the brunt for helping the US in becoming the sole super power. No terrorist act whether committed by a Muslim, Christian or a Jew is pardonable in any society. We must address the cause of this world wide unrest and try to cut its roots rather than the branches and cave a peaceful wold where every religion is respected and every one has the right to live in peace and harmony. God bless you. Amen.

    March 27, 2011 at 5:44 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth

      Pakistan is harboring high level leaders of Al'Qaeda, operatives, "fighters", in the north, and their government and military are corrupt and in leagues with terrorist organizations, such as the one that's protecting bin laden, and zawahiri. They're called the Haqqani, and there are other insurgent groups. Pakistan is just as bad as Afghanistan was, if not worse.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:43 am |
    • Shane

      Only problem is that Bin Laden & Alqaeda are fictional monster created by someone. Ten years of war and billions spent, thousands of lives lost looking for bin laden..

      March 27, 2011 at 7:57 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth, god isn't real

      They're real alright. And it has been more than just looking for a single person, you can't simplify everything with a statement like that, it's a bit more complex, like brainwashed radical religious people killing other people.. They should have been taken out long ago but politics got in the way, and now you see the result of our political system and radical religious islam.

      March 27, 2011 at 8:33 am |
  16. Atheism is the only truth

    Get rid of all religions, because they are all fake, there is no proof of any deity existing, and the rest of these problems will go away.

    Why do less (mentally) evolved human beings create and believe in "god" and/or any "religion" ?

    1. Causal Determinism (some humans are hard wired to need answers)...to explain phenomena, afterlife, the unknown they do not YET have answers for.

    2. Coping mechanism for Death/starvation/natural disaster/etc.

    3. Maintain social order, instill morality on society etc.

    The problem is when we don’t find a logical answer, we settle for a stupid one.
    Ritual is what happens when we run out of rational answers.
    Some people are afraid to look to science and accept that life might end at death and nothing follows afterward.
    To alleviate this anxiety and fear, they believe and have faith in the supernatural to help them cope.
    There is no proof that any god of any religion exists, and there never will be, because it's all man made and not real.

    Once upon a time, it was necessary to have a god to be able to answer all the mysteries in the world. Science has eroded this need by discovering explanations for much of what humanity did not know at the time of "jesus", who never actually existed, the story of jesus is the same story told in other religions, tweaked to fit christianity, it isn't real. Of course, one would expect anyone, who has devoted their life to religion, to find reasons to believe in supernatural beings but they simply no longer fit. So, rationalizing is required to make them fit. And the emphasis is on faith because faith is the only way it does fit. But faith is nothing more that the ability to fool yourself into believing in the unbelievable. But much like children eventually understand that they were fooled by their parents into believing in Santa Clause, humanity is slowly growing out of the childlike phase of believing in supernatural beings. Imagine what it would be like not to have terrorism based on which religion you do or don't believe in. Imagine what it would be like if we did the humane and just things we should do, not because some big brother in the sky is looking over our shoulder but because it's simply the right thing to do. That is where the myriad versions of the golden rule come from – humans doing the right things because it's how they want themselves to be treated. This is why the number of atheists has been growing at a steady rate, and eventually there will not be a need for religion, because man will evolve out of this childlike phase completely.

    March 27, 2011 at 5:26 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      Religious Systems are the last thing standing between Hitlers, Maos and Stalins turning this planet into a VAST EXTERMINATION CAMP! Thank God for religion. Otherwise if you want to look at the bloody history of the atheist dominated 20th century, your hair will stand on its ends.

      March 27, 2011 at 5:35 am |
    • Ironic Irony

      The problem with your statement is that religious people tend to have more children.
      The human genome has potential in it – if a child gets the right nutrients, they will have an average or above-average IQ.
      If they are also raised in a mentally and emotionally healthy environment, then what more could anyone ask?

      Well, we could certainly ask people to stop "enabling" all delusional belief systems like religions. But the vast majority cannot understand what you say, so you post your words here like I do. Vanity, selfishness, and selflessness.
      Humans are like retarded super-monkeys. We got cool technology but some people still live in sewage.

      March 27, 2011 at 5:44 am |
    • Jarod47

      Of course your comment will be attacked by some nut, mentioning the refuted 'hitler-mao-stalin' argument. But that will not get him off the hook. Sharia is not about praying 5 times a day with your butt in the air to demonstrate your submission to a non-existing god. Ther is not even one sharia but several shia versions and several sunni versions. But they all agree that 'once muslim = always muslim'. Leave the faith then the prescribed punishment is death.
      It is these kinds of inhuman absurdities that should be left behind by mankind. We are better off with no religion. Just stop and you will find out that the god that you had in your head was just a fantasy.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:00 am |
    • Gary

      Atheism has killed 160 million people in this world. Science does not solve moral issues and all human needs.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:03 am |
    • Greg


      Religions have killed far more people than athiest or all the wars combined. How do you come to the conclusion that athiest have killed 160 million people?

      March 27, 2011 at 7:23 am |
    • Hebe

      So you would base your morals and your so-called "needs" on lies? On falsehoods? And use more lies to get what you "need"?
      Then if I could toss you to the lions I would. Your POV is the basis for much viciousness and criminal behavior.
      Science can not only research and define, in scientific terms, what you say are "morals", but can be used to find ways to make them better, stronger, and more effective, not to mention more "moral" and viable.

      Science can also be used to discover your actual needs and find real-world solutions to fill those needs.
      Science is what you scorn, yet you do not scorn what it gives you. What do we call someone who does this?
      How do you think you appear to others when you try to work against science and scientific methods?
      Not very smart, to say the least.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:28 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth, god isn't real

      "Atheism has killed 160 million people in this world. Science does not solve moral issues and all human needs."

      haha, did you read that in the bible too or some other make believe book of lies and stories?

      Please cite your sources, I would like to research them. Thank you.

      March 27, 2011 at 8:29 am |
    • justme

      So Atheism is by far the most dangerous religion. Yes it is a religion. The reason being.. Every atheist can make up their own rules as to what is right and what is wrong. As a matter of fact there would be no right or wrong to atheists. So if someone decided to take all of another persons money and kill their family(in no way am i suggesting this to happen) than that would be just fine in an atheistic society. You are living under a world governed by God to a certain degree. If the world was left to atheism no one would survive.

      March 27, 2011 at 10:45 am |
    • Magic


      Atheism is the lack of belief in a fantasy god. Period/full stop.

      Humans can do a quite impressive job at settling on moral, beneficial behavior without an imaginary being, who has done not so much as set up a single traffic light or crosswalk.

      I doubt that you have much respect for anything that comes out of the Middle East today, so why in the world would you believe the fantastical stories of the supernatural originated by even more primitive Middle Eastern desert men?

      The Scandinavian countries, The Netherlands and others who are generally atheistic, live life just fine and quite peacefully.

      March 27, 2011 at 12:37 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Gary and Justme:

      To quote Stephen Roberts: "I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

      March 27, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
    • Bubba Schmo

      Yeah, I guess you're right. Dogs, cats, amoebas .... they never wonder about anything. Oh the bliss of ignorance.

      March 28, 2011 at 2:34 pm |
    • Sean

      @(B)iraq Hussein Osama

      Hitler wasn't an Atheist. He was a pagan. And very much interested in the a occult.

      March 28, 2011 at 2:59 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Bubba Schmo wrote: " Oh the bliss of ignorance."

      Exactly what religions have been promoting for thousands of years...

      March 28, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
  17. pat

    Run all the human interest stories you want, CNN, I still hate those people, they are still not welcome.

    March 27, 2011 at 5:25 am |
    • Katie

      You do realize that statement such as yours are as ignorant as the extremists you fear?

      March 27, 2011 at 6:32 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth

      I dislike anyone that's religious, because it means they have an underlying problem with their brains, and they're primitive human beings. The percentage of more evolved and advanced humans is growing. Thank goodness for atheists, non-theists, and agnostics.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:40 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      you do not have to tell us you dislike religion, atheist, we have already seen that with your grandpa Hitler building gas chambers and exterminating 6,000,000 jews to death simply because of their religion.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:42 am |
    • god isn't real

      You must not be very bright, you do know that hitler was religious too right? I'm against violence, and not religious, I'm really confused where you are getting your crazy comments from.

      March 27, 2011 at 8:27 am |
    • M.H.

      you only hate what you do not understand. people like you are no longer welcome in this country, ignorant fool

      March 27, 2011 at 9:35 am |
    • lissy

      HAHAHA! Osama, you DO know that HITLER WAS A CHRISTIAN, right? Read some history, man!

      March 27, 2011 at 6:50 pm |
    • TiredofH8tred

      ewwww Pat. If you came to my community you wouldn't be welcome. HATEFUL, MEAN, and just plain NASTY!! if America was filled with people like you, I would prefer anywhere else!!!

      March 27, 2011 at 10:03 pm |
  18. portrodas

    I value the degree overall. You do gain maturity and socialization with a 2 or 4-year degree and those benefits and ties last a lifetime. Look online for "United Forensic College" Specifically, a criminal justice degree helps early in the career with nuts and bolts when you are on the street.

    March 27, 2011 at 5:07 am |
  19. RightTurnClyde

    It is not a "phobia" when every day they report on national news of Muslims killing us .. an Army major (swore to be loyal to the Army when he accepted his commission) kills 15-20 of his fellow while shouting Allah Akbah ... a Denver Muslim drives a car load of explosive to Times Square to blow us up ... Muslims kill a church full of Christians in Egypt ... Muslim from Detroit caught on a plane in Yemen with show bombs .. (Muslim – Muslim – Muslim .. and always killing Christians .. that's not a phobia, that's a genuine fear). Oh sure, we ought to also fear non-Muslim nuts who shoot congresswoman, blow up federal buildings, bomb abortion clinics .. a nut is a nut (Muslim or not) .. but it is not a phobia to fear an angry German Shepherd who wants a chunk of your leg. We have good reason to fear Muslims. Add to this the "dancing in the streets" mind set where no Muslim will ever condemn Muslim violence but will issue Fatwah on a cartoonist in Finland for a cartoon! .. That's nuts (way out of proportion to whatever the insular was)(it's ... nuts .. do do things out of proportion). Real fear .. well founded .. based on experience and on-going well publicized evidence.

    March 27, 2011 at 2:38 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      The funny thing is Americans – Christians, whatever you call yourself, are a lot less fearful of cancer, driving cars, drinking, Gun cultue, drugs and overeating. Things that KILL THEM A LOT MORE THAN MUSLIMS DO!!! and here is the funny part, they even have control over these things in their lives that kill them, unlike muslims who they have little control over!!

      So yes, you may hear Muslims killing in small bunches everyday (while you kill the same number once a decade in the form of major wars), the FEAR OF MUSLIMS IS INDEED DISPROPORTIONATE. Way out of line, your thesis is totally totally WRONG.

      March 27, 2011 at 2:54 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama


      cause it generates billions and billions and BILLIONS of dollars in income for vast industries like security, military-industrial manufacturers, lobbyists, politicians, and of course, bankers and money lenders.

      March 27, 2011 at 2:57 am |
    • Ironic Irony

      I never thought I would be agreeing with RightTurnClyde (ironic, that), but his post is very honest and unbigoted.

      If there are real reasons for singling out the Islamic belief system and those who follow it, then American Muslims need to ask amongst themselves where the conflicts arise.
      We should get to the truth of the matter.

      Reacting as if there is nothing wrong within your whole Islamic religion is criminally stupid for many reasons.
      Christians also need to stop doing what the Muslims are doing. They are not so innocent.
      And Jews also need to stop their crimes also.
      If there are any others who commit crimes using their religions as motive and excuse, they need to stop also.

      March 27, 2011 at 5:28 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth

      Well, if you remove religion from the equation, you get rid of most of the problems.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:38 am |
    • Hebe

      No, we would still be stuck with stupid people who are also insane. The insanity and tendencies for mental illness would not go away just because we got rid of religion. We would still have irrational people doing irrational things.
      But it would be nice to not have everyone saying their god made them do it, that's for sure.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:15 am |
    • god isn't real

      There is truth in what you are saying, however, if you want to get rid of stupid people, that's about 75% of the world's population, but it might not be so bad to start over with the 25% that is smart or above average (and non religious).

      March 27, 2011 at 8:26 am |
    • TiredofH8tred

      It is TERRORIST Muslim's we should fear, not Muslims. When we forget the radical is the part of the religion that is the problem, then we lump the religion as a whole which is IGNORANT!! your post should not say MUSLIMS MUSLIMS MUSLIMS...it should say RADICAL RADICAL RADICALS!!! They are not ALL COMING HERE TO DESTROY US! Lord have mercy on your prejudice.

      March 27, 2011 at 10:01 pm |
    • Check 1

      ...and Christians caused the death of millions in Iraq when Bush ordered them to. Why no WMDs? Why wasn't Osama Bin Laden caught? ...and why isn't Osama Bin Laden on the FBI list of terrorist wanted for 9/11? According to USA history, Christians have killed more Christians and are far more violent than Muslims in the USA.

      March 27, 2011 at 11:42 pm |
  20. Frank_Robinson

    Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists have a Pakistani connection.

    March 27, 2011 at 2:15 am |
    • (B)iraq Hussein Osama

      including international terrorists George Bush and Poodle Blair.

      March 27, 2011 at 2:49 am |
    • Ironic Irony

      If violence is done as an explicit or implicit expression of some particular religion, then those illegal acts (that may be legal or commanded by religious law) will be labeled as such and this is not bigotry at all, but honest identification and as fair as anyone could hope for in this country.

      To complain that a bombing is said to have been done by a Muslim extremist is to tell the truth of the matter.
      A bomb explodes. Who did it?
      We find someone. We ask: Why did they do it?
      We find out that they did this violence for a religious reason.
      What was the religious reason that they say justified their violence?
      And so, after tracing the psychotic thought processes we label the violence accordingly, categorizing it within a subgroup of the religion if that is more accurate.
      Thus, we get a "Muslim extremist bomber" or something of that sort when something of that sort happens.

      There is no bigotry in being absolutely honest about the motives of the person committing a crime.
      If the motives are religious, then maybe we need to ask why this is so?

      March 27, 2011 at 5:10 am |
    • truthfull

      Egypt: Muslims attack Christian, cut off his ear

      March 27, 2011 at 5:44 am |
    • Bashir Ahmed

      Mr. Frank_Robinson, May I ask you sir, if there was any Pakistani involved in 9/11 bombings? After defeating Soviet Union, US deserted the valiant Afghan people with the trophy of being the sole supper power. They were then honored as Mujahideens (Islamic Fighters) by the US and now labeled as terrorist. If then the US had given them a helping hand and build Afghanistan, any abhorrent act like 9/11 would have never ever taken place. Pakistanis themselves are facing the brunt for helping the US in becoming the sole super power. No terrorist act whether committed by a Muslim, Christian or a Jew is pardonable in any society. We must address the cause of this world wide unrest and try to cut its roots rather than the branches and cave a peaceful wold where every religion is respected and every one has the right to live in peace and harmony. God bless you. Amen.

      March 27, 2011 at 5:54 am |
    • Atheism is the only truth

      Unfortunately whoever we help in the 3rd world barbaric region called the middle east, tends to flip when power changes hands. Whoever we help has the capability of flipping right around and becoming the enemy. I say we help no one, get rid of our dependency on oil, and get out, let them kill each other.

      March 27, 2011 at 6:36 am |
    • Ggargoyle

      Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Mormornism... they're are just variations on the same pack of lies, and perpetuated by brianwashing and mis-education of children that grow up to become dangerous idiots. Religion has spoiled the present and future for so many...

      March 27, 2011 at 6:55 am |
    • Micael

      @Bashir Ahmed
      If you want to live in peace and harmony all you have to do is be peaceful and harmonious with everyone.

      If your religion says to be violent and to clash with unbelievers, then how can anyone respect your religion?

      March 27, 2011 at 7:06 am |
    • Shimes

      Frank_Robinson, you are a troll. Trying to tie everything to Pakistan is retarded. Your trolling is of bad quality.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:10 am |
    • Hebe

      What is there deserving of respect when people do not care if it is based on lies or truth?
      They are unable to care. It is extremely difficult to show people they have been lied to. They cling to their fantasies.
      Religions deserve no respect. They are based on lies and therefore deserve nothing but eradication.

      March 27, 2011 at 7:18 am |
    • ad

      @Bashir. Pakistan needs to first acknowledge that something is screwed up in their society. They cheered and fell in love with the bearded islamists in afghanistan when they were fighting the soviets.The mujahideen present a text book case of biting the hand that fed you. The very same islamists are now in your country and threaten to enter india next. Pakistan is still in denial about this and that is what bothers me. Forget USA for a moment. What is your country doing to stop them?

      March 27, 2011 at 8:32 am |
    • Jason

      Hitler was Christian. So ur wrong. A lady killed her 5 kids in name of GOD. Young parent couple starved kids in name of god to death. look all over the news articles online and see how many others killed in name of god? Problem is in all religions there are some people so dont think for themselves and believe that they MUST do so in name of their deity.

      March 27, 2011 at 9:51 am |
    • Josef F

      Tell that to the people who died in the Murrah Building in95, you idiot.

      March 27, 2011 at 10:28 am |
    • TiredofH8tred

      All Christians have a European connection...what's your point Frank?? It's junk like that that brainwashed the ignorant.

      March 27, 2011 at 9:51 pm |
    • Kenny

      Ironic Irony: I agreewith your assesment. however the bigger issue is the "ironic" ignorance" of other terrorist acts like the shooting of a congrsswoman. Please explain that though process just as you did for the muslim extremist. thanks

      March 27, 2011 at 10:11 pm |
    • Kenny

      TO ALL: Beware of old people. this is their time to put stamp on the world before their time is up. If you are 35 or under this is your world to shape. Let the old folk finish up what they feel they have to. In fact us.. the young and educated will be leading the way soon. there is hope. P.S. from a christian who does not judge people or their Gods

      March 27, 2011 at 10:20 pm |
    • Check 1

      Bush has got to be the greatest terrorist I know... ...isn't Bush a Christian? lol

      March 27, 2011 at 11:34 pm |
    • Syriac

      You're wrong by saying: All Christians have a European connection.
      I am 100% Middle Eastern and i am a Christian.

      March 31, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      ...um... whether he was or wasn't the messiah, Jesus and his disciples were middle-eastern...

      March 31, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
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