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Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?
Mohammad Ali Elahi, the imam at the Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights, Michigan.
March 28th, 2011
05:07 PM ET

Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?

Lots of provocative comments on our story about Muslims in one of the country's biggest and oldest Muslim enclaves feeling alienated in their own country. Many commenters are critical of American Muslims; many others sympathetic and supportive.

But the responses are all over the map and largely defy such easy categorization.

Here's a sampling:

Joe from Kalispell
The fact there is even a "Muslim Enclave" is scary. They already wanted to be separate to not be "polluted by American values." They are really pushing their First Amendment right because I am sure the Founding Fathers didn't mean to afford protection to a religion so opposed to our existence as is Islam.

JustAHuman
It is sad to see so much hate in this country and little education about other cultures and religions. In many instances we "Americans" bring destructions upon ourselves and we are blind to see why.

joe
These Muslims are safer in this country than anywhere else in the world. if they think they are unsafe here let them leave.

freeddoom
If you are really sick of them, then don't buy their oil, don't invade their countries, dont kill them, don't steal their land, don't prop up dictators to take their freedom away. I bet they have more reason to be sick of you buddy.

Maya
Islam literally means "submission" to God. Therefore, any human being that submits himself to God is considered to be following "Islam." what that means is, if you are a christian, who submits yourself to God, then you are in fact upholding Islam. You really do have to put the verse into context and understand the exact meanings. Here are a few verse for you to ponder upon:

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians – whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

Kat
Reality, funny because the terrorists never say they do in the name of Islam or to convert people to Islam or force Islam on America. They only complain about the hostile US policies and wars, and its support to Israeli atrocities, many supporters belong to religious  believers who want to see Armageddon and end of the world.

I know the media and politicians tell you that it's all about religion to mute any serious discussion of the root cause of terror.

Wirius
I am not a Muslim. I am APPALLED at the people who profess to faith in God, their ignorant accusations against the Muslim population in America. There are millions of Muslims in America. Some are poor, some are wealthy. Some are devout, some aren't so devout. Some are saints, some are sinners. Muslims are people, just like you and I. The good Muslim, which is the majority, seeks to better theirs, and others lives around them. Don't let the extremists paint your view of many good people. Don't let the fact that third world dictatorships use the Muslim religions blind you to how terrible Christianity was when it was tied to the king. In short, religious people should be showing support and care for the Muslims in our community.

Irritated
I am a Muslim WHITE AMERICAN who can trace family roots back to the 13 original colonies you idiot. This is my country. Accept it.

sassypants
Sick and evil! I will never trust them. I will forever remember Nic, Daniel Pearl, and the victims of 09.11 and countless others who have died at the hands of these monsters. I am angry at whoever created this mess by allowing this cult in the door. Immigration control – Yesterday!!

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Islam • Michigan

soundoff (822 Responses)
  1. MsMHS

    If we were to travel to an Arab nation we could not dress as we do here - and out of respect we would cover our heads, etc. But these folks wear whatever attire they want, fight to retain their rights to that even when trying to obtain a driver's license, and do not assimilate into our country's culture - yet they claim to be the ones discriminated against. Why don't they just stay where they are the norm instead of infiltrating the United States of America?

    March 30, 2011 at 11:16 am |
    • Renny

      Because world domination from within is their ultimate goal. Increase their population until they are the majority, then take over.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:17 am |
    • displeased

      MsMHS, have you ever been to an Arab nation? I think you would be surprised with dress requirements. I've seen people in Saudi Arabia wearing nothing but shorts. Now if you go to a mosque, then that's different. I agree though, foreigners need to follow our rules when here, i.e. can't have the face covered for driver's license photo. That was a ridiculous claim.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:38 am |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Renny says of Muslims: "world domination from within is their ultimate goal."

      As opposed to the Christians, I suppose? Why all the centuries of sending "missionaries" to convert everyone in sight?

      March 30, 2011 at 11:46 am |
    • Renny

      ptl, christians don't believe that killing non-believers is not a sin, in fact, muslims believe it is an obligation.

      March 30, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
  2. Casual Observer

    Let's face the facts – Muslims want world peace for everyone – that is for everyone that is Muslim. And they want and need to have Islam take over every aspect of everyone's lives. There is no middle ground. radical Islam is as bad as communism and represents a much bigger threat to the rest of the world – not just the Christian world – or western civilization.
    They will not adapt – it is their way – with no compromise. Admittedly only a minority of Muslims believe this – but they do nothing to speak out against the lunatic fringe. And there lies the problem.
    I cannot trust my Muslim neighbors – when are they going to buckle to the radicals and turn on me and my family?
    I want to embrace and trust them – but that will not happen until they stop trying to change America and take a public stance against radical Islam and terrorism. Not all Muslims are radical terrorists – but all terrorists are Muslims .........no one can refute this.

    March 30, 2011 at 11:14 am |
    • Renny

      Please explaint that to "displeased" and "priasethelard," and the rest of the bleeding hearts that like to make apples and oranges comparisons.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:16 am |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Casual Observer: I could rephrase what you wrote:

      Christians want world peace for everyone – that is for everyone that is Christian. And they want and need to have Christianity take over every aspect of everyone's lives. There is no middle ground. radical Christianity is as bad as... (fill in the blank...)

      March 30, 2011 at 11:18 am |
    • Renny

      praisethelard, you can rephrase it all you want, but you can't change the fact that you are wrong and making apples and oranges comparisons.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:20 am |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Renny keeps on referring to apples and oranges...

      All religions are in the brainwashing business, and there really is little difference between them... They rely on the spread of ignorance to achieve their goals, and that often results in violence by some of the more impressionable victims of these frauds.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:25 am |
    • displeased

      Of course all terrorists are Muslims. That's because when a Muslim commits a crime, it's automatically labeled a terror attack. The Jared Loughner shooting was a terrorist act, but it won't be called that because he isn't a Muslim. What about Cho at VT? What category does that fall under? I would even consider the shooting of Dr. Tiller a terrorist attack, but it will never be labeled that way since the crime was committed by one of your Christian brothers.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:28 am |
  3. Dan

    Hey, CNN, where are the big crocodile tears for the Egyptian swineherds whose pigs were killed by the government because of H1N1, inspite of teh fact that there was no threat? Where are the tears for teh massacre of the thousands of people on East Timor who were slaughtered by Muslims for daring to want independence?

    March 30, 2011 at 10:59 am |
    • displeased

      So we should hate American Muslims based on the actions of people in other countries?

      March 30, 2011 at 11:04 am |
    • Renny

      @displeased, yes, a muslim is a muslim. Some are just not acting on their beliefs yet because their population is not in the majority in this country.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:08 am |
    • displeased

      Well then, I guess all Christians are represented by the Westboro Baptists since a Christian is a Christian. Nice to know who I'm surrounded by...

      March 30, 2011 at 11:10 am |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Renny wrote:: "a muslim is a muslim."

      So we should arrest all Catholics because, judging by the actions of some priests, they're all child molesters?

      March 30, 2011 at 11:12 am |
    • Renny

      displeased and praisethelard, try thinking for yourselves, researching, and reading in context considering all facts, rather than trying to compare apples and oranges.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:14 am |
  4. Chuck

    What was the point of posting this "article"? People are divided on everything from religion to who they're supporting in the Super Bowl. We can all see comments below all of the articles on this site. (And most other sites too)

    America is and has always been a polarized society, and in many ways...that's a good thing. The only problem that I can see is that people haven't matured enough to use the internet for something other than reinforcing their own opinions rather than doing actual research. This causes "flaming wars" in cases where people might otherwise be reasonable. I hope that people's use of the internet sort of "grows up" in the near future, and flat-out hate speech becomes more taboo instead of waving the flag of "free speech" to hide such things. Just think of every word that comes out of Glenn Beck's mouth and the droves of people who take his nonsense as fact. He's using Free Speech to push hate speech. Is that taboo? Only in some places. This nation needs to grow up.

    March 30, 2011 at 10:56 am |
  5. Lee S

    What do these muslims living here have to say about Al Taquiya?

    March 30, 2011 at 10:50 am |
  6. Lee S

    What do these muslims living here ahve to say about Al Taquiya?

    March 30, 2011 at 10:49 am |
  7. Lee S

    Anyone that uses faith to control and influence peoples lives should have their heads removed. Of course the ones doing this would never admit that brainwashing is what they are doing. When you obtain the power you will do everything you can to keep it. And threatening people with "eternal hellfire" or even jailing/persecuting people for questioning their ways are prime examples of this hypocrisy at work. All religions based on Abraham have had this kind of influence at one time or another. The education of the common people is the key to freeing their minds. The zealots see it as the "right" way. Why do the clerics and fundies of islam have so much influence in the more powerful and conservative muslim nations. In some cases(Iran for one) they have the final say in ANY govt decision. Islam, Christianity, Judaism. These are all control mechanisms.

    March 30, 2011 at 10:47 am |
  8. Renny

    @teepee, racist much?

    March 30, 2011 at 10:38 am |
  9. conradshull

    Is American Muslim alienation valid? I don't know. But, it's obvious CNN is trying is damndest to convince us it is.

    March 30, 2011 at 10:37 am |
  10. W.G.

    I think when the only terrorists you see on TV are muslims . I mean if it were a bunch of Swedish people causing
    terroristic acts you´d think twice about them . They even kill themselves whe they can´t kill Americans .
    They are not a religion of Peace .

    March 30, 2011 at 10:17 am |
    • Normon

      Did you worry about the Irish or Christians when the IRA was active?

      March 30, 2011 at 10:46 am |
  11. Jabroni

    To a degree but I feel the same way about the Christains I work and live side by side with daily. Some are very good people but their religious beliefs are so alienating it's hard to not feel like an outsider having no such beliefs. It's scary when Christians 'know' they are right about everything regarding God. Some become angry when you challenge their logic and beliefs with opposing logic. Same applies to Muslims. Both have their holy wars, neither is justified.

    When the people of Earth will be truly free is when we all denounce the death cult disease called religion that grips us from birth or rebirth.

    March 30, 2011 at 10:15 am |
    • AK

      Jabroni: "Some become angry when you challenge their logic and beliefs with opposing logic. Same applies to Muslims. Both have their holy wars, neither is justified... When the people of Earth will be truly free is when we all denounce the death cult disease called religion that grips us from birth or rebirth."

      Most hilariously ironic post of the day award!!

      March 30, 2011 at 10:51 am |
    • displeased

      AK, what exactly is hilarious about Jabroni's post? The post made sense to me. Perhaps you are one of the people who fall into the category Jabroni describes.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:02 am |
  12. Cole

    muhammad can su&ck my nu*ts

    March 30, 2011 at 9:56 am |
    • Normon

      People who say such things rarely anything to suck.

      Cheers

      March 30, 2011 at 10:44 am |
  13. Michael T.

    I would march with and die to protect those Muslims who 1) openly and fervently oppose Islamic terror organizations such as Hamas, Hisbollah, Al Queda, Al Islamaya, etc., 2) stop their religious hatred of Jews and 3) deeply oppose Islamism. Sadly, this appears to be the tiniest minority within the Muslim community. I have read a quality translation of the Koran, read the 'interpretations' of the material from reputable Islamic sources and note that there is a huge gap between theory and practice. In all muslim countries, there is massive intolerance in practice of Christians and especially Jews. Extremist Muslims are responsible for eighty-odd percent of all terrorist acts in the world and a popular strain (Islamism) is dedicated towards world domination (the near enemy and the far enemy). To claim or believe that all Muslims fit this profile is as bigoted and ignorant as to say that exceptionally few do. It is a small-but-rapidly-growing percentage that the Muslim community has demonstrated that they are unwilling and unfit to fight. We can either ignore it at our peril or apologize it so as to prove our liberal creds.

    Santayana said: 'Those that do not learn the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them'. There are lessons regarding seeing a religion as monolithic (all good or all bad) as well as ignoring legitimate religious threats. Balance means realizing that there are some Muslim mosques, groups and individuals who are fantastic and others that are evil. Do we ignore the evil simply out of fear that the good will be tainted or do we fight the evil while praising and protecting the good?

    March 30, 2011 at 9:44 am |
  14. oooo

    Why does it always have to be about Christians and Muslims? Why can't the Catholics start attacking too? 😦

    March 30, 2011 at 9:41 am |
    • obvious man

      You realize catholics are christians right?

      March 30, 2011 at 11:23 am |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Years ago there was an African-American comedian (I forgot his name) who had a good line; he said his favorite country was Ireland, because even in a land with no Jews or Blacks, they still can't get along...

      March 30, 2011 at 11:27 am |
  15. American.

    @tony di filippo
    If it is the recognized faith, do you think that will happen by force? Or because the majority of people will agree with that particular faith?

    March 30, 2011 at 9:28 am |
  16. tony di filippo

    this nation is run by liberal tree hugging people who eventually destroy america.there are too many rights & liberties.
    rights are earned. i would strongly recommend learning spanish & chinese because these will be the official languages in the future, & islam will be the recognized faith.

    March 30, 2011 at 9:23 am |
    • SeanNJ

      You've earned nothing to my knowledge. I say we kick you out first. Troll.

      March 30, 2011 at 9:37 am |
    • conradshull

      No one will need to learn Chinese. English is the permanent lingua franca.

      March 31, 2011 at 8:48 am |
  17. rker321

    The only problem that I have is that muslims come here a Christian country, and try to impose their customs on us.
    For example the women hiding their faces. Sorry, If I went to their country, they would expect them to hide my face as a female. Well, in my country, I expect them to show theirs.

    March 30, 2011 at 9:18 am |
    • UnfortunateColor

      Last time I checked, this country was founded, in part, by groups of people fleeing religious persecution in Europe. That's why we're supposed to have Freedom of Religion in this country! If you don't believe in Freedom of Religion, you should leave this country.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:19 am |
    • Rachel

      How are they trying to impose their customs on us? Doing you often run into women wearing veils who try to throw a blanket on you? And you just said that if you went to one of their countries that you wouldn't cover up. So how is that any different than what they are doing here? They aren't trying to impose on anyone; they're just trying to carve out a little niche for themselves since the rest of the country is trying to push them away. Asking someone to be tolerant of their beliefs is not the same as asking someone to convert to their ways and customs.

      March 30, 2011 at 11:29 am |
    • Toby

      If you are referring to America as a Christian nation, you are profoundly mistaken. Ours is a nation that is uniquely designed to allow peoples of all faiths, creeds, and religions to practice as they see fit-and for those who do not believe in any of these ideas to abstain. While Christianity may be the most popular faith in this country (and popularity does not make an idea true-were that the case, Islam would be true by virtue of the fact that it is the most popular in other countries) does not make this a Christian nation.

      John Adams- "The United States of America is in no way founded on the Christian religion." –

      March 30, 2011 at 12:02 pm |
  18. TheBroker

    @BG... I wasn't even quoting you. My comment was directed @ Corpsman Steve who said "if all muslims are terrorists than all Catholics are pedophile". If you pay closer attention and put together a coherent argument, you may not come across as immature and doltish.

    March 30, 2011 at 9:18 am |
  19. M.

    Check these out as well.

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    March 30, 2011 at 9:16 am |
  20. WVlady63

    ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    March 30, 2011 at 9:14 am |
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