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Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?
Mohammad Ali Elahi, the imam at the Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights, Michigan.
March 28th, 2011
05:07 PM ET

Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?

Lots of provocative comments on our story about Muslims in one of the country's biggest and oldest Muslim enclaves feeling alienated in their own country. Many commenters are critical of American Muslims; many others sympathetic and supportive.

But the responses are all over the map and largely defy such easy categorization.

Here's a sampling:

Joe from Kalispell
The fact there is even a "Muslim Enclave" is scary. They already wanted to be separate to not be "polluted by American values." They are really pushing their First Amendment right because I am sure the Founding Fathers didn't mean to afford protection to a religion so opposed to our existence as is Islam.

JustAHuman
It is sad to see so much hate in this country and little education about other cultures and religions. In many instances we "Americans" bring destructions upon ourselves and we are blind to see why.

joe
These Muslims are safer in this country than anywhere else in the world. if they think they are unsafe here let them leave.

freeddoom
If you are really sick of them, then don't buy their oil, don't invade their countries, dont kill them, don't steal their land, don't prop up dictators to take their freedom away. I bet they have more reason to be sick of you buddy.

Maya
Islam literally means "submission" to God. Therefore, any human being that submits himself to God is considered to be following "Islam." what that means is, if you are a christian, who submits yourself to God, then you are in fact upholding Islam. You really do have to put the verse into context and understand the exact meanings. Here are a few verse for you to ponder upon:

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians – whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

Kat
Reality, funny because the terrorists never say they do in the name of Islam or to convert people to Islam or force Islam on America. They only complain about the hostile US policies and wars, and its support to Israeli atrocities, many supporters belong to religious  believers who want to see Armageddon and end of the world.

I know the media and politicians tell you that it's all about religion to mute any serious discussion of the root cause of terror.

Wirius
I am not a Muslim. I am APPALLED at the people who profess to faith in God, their ignorant accusations against the Muslim population in America. There are millions of Muslims in America. Some are poor, some are wealthy. Some are devout, some aren't so devout. Some are saints, some are sinners. Muslims are people, just like you and I. The good Muslim, which is the majority, seeks to better theirs, and others lives around them. Don't let the extremists paint your view of many good people. Don't let the fact that third world dictatorships use the Muslim religions blind you to how terrible Christianity was when it was tied to the king. In short, religious people should be showing support and care for the Muslims in our community.

Irritated
I am a Muslim WHITE AMERICAN who can trace family roots back to the 13 original colonies you idiot. This is my country. Accept it.

sassypants
Sick and evil! I will never trust them. I will forever remember Nic, Daniel Pearl, and the victims of 09.11 and countless others who have died at the hands of these monsters. I am angry at whoever created this mess by allowing this cult in the door. Immigration control – Yesterday!!

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Islam • Michigan

soundoff (822 Responses)
  1. Sean

    I'll be as accepting of Muslims as they are of Hindus. It is ironic that one of the most violent, barbaric religions in human history whines so much when people decide that we don't like them. I don't like Christians that much either.

    March 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm |
  2. abid

    as an american it makes me sad to realize that we say we value diversity but we dont really, and you can see that by looking through the comments here. we all need to make an effort to leave our comfort zone and meet with people different from ourselves so we can truly learn and appreciate instead of basing all the people of one religion off of a few fanatics. that would be akin to me saying all christians are evil because of the many, many evils we have seen from "western" nations (ie. slavery, colonialism, racism, the crusades, wacky christian cult groups, ethnic cleansing). however, i do my best to look past these evils, many of which are still occurring to this day, and give people, and more importantly hope, a chance. it's incredibly frightening that so many people are unwilling to do the same. what does this say about our country and the direction it is headed?

    March 30, 2011 at 1:32 pm |
  3. Jesse R

    As a proud Gay American, I think Muslims in this country should have the same rights I would have in their countries. The hatred of Jews, the abuse of women and the execution of gays...really? We are supposed to "tolerate" this? Not me, not ever.

    March 30, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
    • displeased

      So we should make our laws based on laws of other countries?

      March 30, 2011 at 1:41 pm |
  4. Dallas5superrings

    CNN and C E N S O R.....That is what they should call this Muslim news channel

    March 30, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
  5. Dallas5superrings

    c e n s o r

    March 30, 2011 at 1:18 pm |
  6. Sal

    Yes it is valid because these people and their "peaceful" religion is the cause of the problem. Once you readers understand that their allegiance is to their damn religion and not to this country! And that says it all! 

    March 30, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
  7. patricia

    It is never valid to alienate or discriminate against a person based on their religion.

    March 30, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
    • SeanNJ

      Well, I don't have time for anyone that engages in such silliness, so I'll alienate anyone who does, thankyouverymuch.

      March 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm |
    • fuutbolczarina

      Anytime there is conflicting viewpoints, we have the choice to alienate the said offender or delve into the differences. I prefer to ignore and move on. Call it alienation or bullying. It just doesn't matter what they do or what they believe. I won't embrace it despite all the PC being crammed down our throats.

      March 30, 2011 at 9:45 pm |
  8. Asad

    I'm a Muslim born and raised in Chicago and any real Muslim will tell you that these terrorists like the Taliban and Bin Laden are not considered Muslims. They are hated by Muslims and followed only by non-believers who are brainwashed from a young age to believe that they are following Islam when all they are doing is being used by some group of crazy radicals who have perverted and distorted my faith to suit their screwed up agenda. These terrorists are sinners and will burn in hell. It's also amazing that so many people say true Islam is a male dominated religion and women have no rights or equality when Pakistan has had a Muslim head of state before the US has. Also if you know anything about islam you know that a very important teaching in my religion teaches you that heaven is beneath your mothers feet. Osama bin Laden is as Muslim as Hitler is Christian. I wish some of you would choose to be less ignorant and learn a few things about Islam before attacking it. And you cannot learn about Islam from fox news, some evangelist or a politician. Everybody knows that those people all say or do anything for ratings, money and votes. Pick up a Quran and read it and then tell me this is a religion of violence and hatred. Most of my closest friends are Christians, Catholics and Jews and we all understand and respect each others faiths and embrace the differences between us. I wish some of you could see how easy it is to coexist.

    March 30, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
    • Jesse R

      That sounds fine, but the fact is that your religion promotes the hatred of Jews, abuse of women and execution of gays is a known fact. And worse is governments forcing their citizens to live their lives with these hateful teachings and beliefs.

      March 30, 2011 at 1:55 pm |
    • David

      The Christian Bible also says that any man found lying with another man is to be stoned to death.
      Hatred of other religions too, "Burn their idols"

      March 30, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
  9. Johnna

    How often does one hear supposedly non-radical Muslims speaking out against the violent acts of radicalized Muslims? Huh..huh.... I don't remember even once and I follow the news quite close. Beware of Islamic religious leaders as they are the teachers of terrorism.
    As a commenter had written before that to speak badly or draw pictures of Muhammered (as this makes him idolized) should result in that person's death. Well that sounds to me of ideology in it self and therefore hypocritical on the part of Islam. What do you think?

    March 30, 2011 at 1:09 pm |
  10. BillyBob117

    I am so tired of hearing how innocent moderate muslims are. The next time you are talking with one, ask that person why he/she never ever openly/loudly protest the vile acts of their brethren.

    March 30, 2011 at 1:07 pm |
    • patricia

      Why does anyone have to constantly go around protesting the crazies in their religion. When was the last time you heard a christian go around saying the Westboro Baptist Church is wrong at every oportunity?

      March 30, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
    • atheist

      i am an atheist, and i condem the westborrow church at every opportunity because my brother is a marine and has been to iraq and afghanistan 3 times. the muslims do not deserve anything from this country because they are a deciet ridden hateful religion who goes around demanding everyone else respect their needs. take target for example, the mulsim ladies who ARE GETTING PAID TO SCAN ITEMS can deny scanning things that contain pork items and waste a bunch of time becuse thier obnoxious "religious" beliefs, they do not get fired, but they get waited on hand and foot by the target organization because god forbid muslims stop shopping there

      March 30, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
  11. FastFrankie

    Will there also be hearing on how non-Muslims are at best 2nd class citizens in almost every Muslim-majority nation? Or is it just a big coincidence that they turn on non-Muslims the minute they have the opportunity? Will any of the Muslims testifying at these hearings be able to demonstrate what, if anything, they have done to prevent the persecution of non-Muslims in Muslim-majority countries?

    March 30, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
  12. Jon

    There are three convoluting issues at the heart of this mess. You have a American-Muslim population who's very religion makes it impossible to change the book that justifies Islamic terrorism. You have the far-left of the country crying foul at secularist for pointing this very fact out, and for even suggesting that Moderates take responsibility for the supposed distortion of their religion. Then you have the a large U.S. Christian population that (compared to Islam worldwide) has been tamed and made moderate over 100's of years, so by comparison, is much more humane and relevant to the modern secular world. U.S. Christians have their own problems, but largely work within the bounds of law and society, whereas the Muslim world does not uphold these secular values.

    March 30, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • PraiseTheLard

      Many of these U.S. Christians had to be dragged kicking and screaming into civility... How long did it take to get rid of slavery? How long after that did so-called "equality" filter down to the former slaves? What about the economic slaves that are still with us? As for following the law... the powerful had most of the laws drafted for their own benefit and only permitted other rights to trickle down to the underclass when faced with no other choice...

      March 30, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • Realamerican

      What book justifies Islamic terrorism? Its obvious that you have never read the Quran and are just going on what you hear from other sources. That is irresponsible and ignorant. I have taken the time to try and understand the things that I know very little about and it's changed my opinion pretty drastically. I implore you to do the same.

      March 30, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
  13. Meg

    My blog post (below) is the best I can do. Why? Because I have to find humor in this. The alternative is too heart wrenchingly depressing. I simply refuse to believe that most Americans completely disregard the right to freedom of religion or are ignorant enough to believe that the violent radicals of a religion are representative of the majority.

    http://aboutthesame.blogspot.com/2011/03/i-get-it-now-were-just-hazing-them.html

    March 30, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
  14. Alex

    I am sure there are truly sincere and kind people within the Muslim population. That being said, in order to be accepted in this country, we need to see MORE of the American Islamic leadership speaking out against intolerance of Christians, Jews, and Hindus in the Middle East and elsewhere. For example, the persecution of Christians in Iran and Iraq. Currently, you do see high profile Christian, Jewish, and Hindu leaders taking tough stances on religious tolerance and acceptance. We do not see this coming out of the Islamic community unless they are addressing issues directed at their religious persecution.

    March 30, 2011 at 12:31 pm |
  15. bhoepa

    Muslims are not a bad and scary people,its Jus their ideology and extremism is scary...we wanna be safe in this country, we don't wanna get blown up in the airplane or in the crowded mall...homeland security needs to take extra measures to stop these,terrorists from entering our soil...

    March 30, 2011 at 12:30 pm |
  16. Grog

    Go to Youtube and watch the Dearborn Michigan Islamic rally, where they attacked Christians handing out pamphlets. It is totally within the rights of the Christians to hand out pamphlets where ever they see fit, in a public place. The attacks were totally uncalled for and unprovoked.
    This type of behavior typifies the muslim community, something happens and they publicly wring their collective hands and want government protection. If they feel isolated it is because of their behavior, their cults belief system in overthrowing and becoming the only true religion by any means at had. Read the Quoran and accompanying books.

    March 30, 2011 at 12:28 pm |
    • Zillah

      Doesn't sound like it was "uncalled-for and unprovoked" to me! Too bad you guys didn't just kill each other off.

      March 30, 2011 at 12:34 pm |
  17. Jameson

    If Christians were known for blowing themselves and others up for the promise of 50 virgins, I would think badly of them, but it is the muslims who do this. I respect religions as long as they don't bother me, sadly the muslim religion bothers us all. A great deal of death and pain is involved in the muslim religion. We also have to fear that a terrorist may be right around the corner and the chances are that the terrorist is muslim. Numbers don't lie, if it were WHITE people that we were going to war with, obviously we would be cautious around them, but this isn't race, is religion. Muslims don't take kindly to those who practice other religions.

    Look what happened when South Park aired that episode that portrayed their "GOD", death threats were sent to the creators of the show. It's not my fault they chose to be terrorist, I didn't draw first blood, they did!!!!

    March 30, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
    • displeased

      That's too bad you believe radical Islam represents all Muslims.

      March 30, 2011 at 12:39 pm |
  18. Lizzy Taylor

    The only people who are being alienated in this country are those who alienate themselves via self imposed segregation; By socializing within one's community only is no way to integrate. The many many muslims inmy neighborhood here in Queens NY nary interact with non muslims. It is very rare to see Muslims speaking to non Muslims.. How is that the fault of Non Muslims? It isn't.

    March 30, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
    • Ruth

      I recently got to talk to a Christian from Iraq (I'm Jewish), he told me they were not allowed to talk to Muslims. They were forced into segregation. Imagine if we did that to Muslims here.

      March 30, 2011 at 1:40 pm |
  19. Michael

    True, there are good and bad people in all faiths. The difference is that the priest pedophile is acting against the teachings of Christianity. Muslim terrorists and honor killings are following the teachings of Islam. The Crusades were a worldly, not Christian, response to Muslim assassinations (the word comes from Hashish as Muslims would get high on dope before killing). Jesus recognized the evil of idolatry, teaching against hypocrisy of temple worship, and summed up the commandments with the golden rule, love your neighbor as yourself. Islam abandoned this and went back to idolatry (you can't say anything bad about Mohammed or the Koran) and the hypocrisy of following rules (Sharia). Compulsory rule-following will only breed hatred. Love is not compulsory.

    True story: In Galilee there is a cemetery where Jews, Christians, and Muslims are all buried. It became unkempt. The Jews wouldn't clean it because they might get contaminated being near gentile graves. The Muslims wouldn't clean it because they might accidentally be helping Jews. A group of Christians finally cleaned up the cemetery. The Jews and Muslims were both happy that their ancestors' graves were now honored by being cleaned.

    March 30, 2011 at 12:12 pm |
  20. DBowling

    I want to BELIEVE that Islam is a religion of peace,but when you take into account that a good majority of terrorist attacks around the world today are perpertrated by followers of the Prophet Muhammad,it does give one reason to be skeptical about that argument.I have personally never met a Muslim,nor do I really care whether I do or not,Earlier this month at the White House in Washington,some radical nutjob,a native of ENGLAND,no genealogical connection with the US whatsoever,held a protest DEMANDING that Sharia law be enacted throughout the United States.Among other items of note in his past are: 1.Praising the hyjackers of 9/11,2.Refusing to condemn the 7/7 bombings in London,and 3.Declaring that the flag of Islam will one day fly over the White House.

    How does one NOT expect at least some portion of the population that is Islamaphobic after you acknowledge that radical Muslims like this seem to have a much higher voice than the moderates.There obiviously are those moderates who want to live their own way,and let others live the way they choose.However,the moderates are indeed being shouted down by the radicals who scream "Allah Akbar" or "Death to America." The moderate Muslim,while not extinct,seem to be a decreasing minority and the radicals seem to be getting louder.I abhor having to have the hearings that Pete King is having in New York,but it is neccesary to at least take a look and possibly root out the radicals in American societ.

    March 30, 2011 at 11:53 am |
    • Casual Observer

      Peter King should be applauded for his work as we are dealing with a clear and present danger in dealing with Muslims and Islam in the manner we are doing today. We need to understand what is really going on – and albeit a congressional committee is probably the least effective way to do that. But you have to start somewhere.
      It is clear that America and Americans are targets of Islam as our values, culture and society are not compatible with radical Islam and we need to treat radical Islam as a cancer. Identify it and them remove – there is no cure for cancer.

      March 30, 2011 at 12:08 pm |
    • gene

      Agreed. Protect Americans first and since they call themselves muslim Americans it shows where allegiance is and it's not to the country where they live and enjoy many benefits. They have cause their own alienation by their brutal, violen behaviour and also the deafening silence in not condemning these acts.

      March 30, 2011 at 1:00 pm |
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