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Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?
Mohammad Ali Elahi, the imam at the Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights, Michigan.
March 28th, 2011
05:07 PM ET

Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?

Lots of provocative comments on our story about Muslims in one of the country's biggest and oldest Muslim enclaves feeling alienated in their own country. Many commenters are critical of American Muslims; many others sympathetic and supportive.

But the responses are all over the map and largely defy such easy categorization.

Here's a sampling:

Joe from Kalispell
The fact there is even a "Muslim Enclave" is scary. They already wanted to be separate to not be "polluted by American values." They are really pushing their First Amendment right because I am sure the Founding Fathers didn't mean to afford protection to a religion so opposed to our existence as is Islam.

JustAHuman
It is sad to see so much hate in this country and little education about other cultures and religions. In many instances we "Americans" bring destructions upon ourselves and we are blind to see why.

joe
These Muslims are safer in this country than anywhere else in the world. if they think they are unsafe here let them leave.

freeddoom
If you are really sick of them, then don't buy their oil, don't invade their countries, dont kill them, don't steal their land, don't prop up dictators to take their freedom away. I bet they have more reason to be sick of you buddy.

Maya
Islam literally means "submission" to God. Therefore, any human being that submits himself to God is considered to be following "Islam." what that means is, if you are a christian, who submits yourself to God, then you are in fact upholding Islam. You really do have to put the verse into context and understand the exact meanings. Here are a few verse for you to ponder upon:

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians – whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

Kat
Reality, funny because the terrorists never say they do in the name of Islam or to convert people to Islam or force Islam on America. They only complain about the hostile US policies and wars, and its support to Israeli atrocities, many supporters belong to religious  believers who want to see Armageddon and end of the world.

I know the media and politicians tell you that it's all about religion to mute any serious discussion of the root cause of terror.

Wirius
I am not a Muslim. I am APPALLED at the people who profess to faith in God, their ignorant accusations against the Muslim population in America. There are millions of Muslims in America. Some are poor, some are wealthy. Some are devout, some aren't so devout. Some are saints, some are sinners. Muslims are people, just like you and I. The good Muslim, which is the majority, seeks to better theirs, and others lives around them. Don't let the extremists paint your view of many good people. Don't let the fact that third world dictatorships use the Muslim religions blind you to how terrible Christianity was when it was tied to the king. In short, religious people should be showing support and care for the Muslims in our community.

Irritated
I am a Muslim WHITE AMERICAN who can trace family roots back to the 13 original colonies you idiot. This is my country. Accept it.

sassypants
Sick and evil! I will never trust them. I will forever remember Nic, Daniel Pearl, and the victims of 09.11 and countless others who have died at the hands of these monsters. I am angry at whoever created this mess by allowing this cult in the door. Immigration control – Yesterday!!

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Islam • Michigan

soundoff (822 Responses)
  1. Terry W. Brookman

    The Christ: I am the first and the last, no one comes to the father save through me.

    That's all the religion I need and I have studied a lot of them.

    March 31, 2011 at 10:43 am |
    • teepee

      and your point is???

      March 31, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
    • krashundburn

      His intended point is: His religion is the right one. Their religion is the wrong one.

      His unintended point is: This is why belief in any religion is wrong.

      April 1, 2011 at 10:14 am |
  2. Terry W. Brookman

    Not long ago in Florida I think a Muslim man killed his daughter, her only crime was she fell in love with a nice American boy. This was a deal breaker for her father who had sold her as a bride th someone from his country. There was much debate as to whether he could or should be tried under our laws. Infiltrate and influence, this is a no-brainer if you want to live here you abide by the laws here.

    March 31, 2011 at 10:36 am |
  3. Terry W. Brookman

    It's a infiltration and then a numbers game, they get into a non Muslim society and breed until they have the numberer to influence and when the numbers favor them the good Muslim face comes off and the bombers come out. Read the Koran, it is a religion of conversion by sword point. A few years ago I thought of a short version, Mohamed would come across someone and ask if they were a Muslim if they said no he would raise his sword and then ask again. Seeing the raised sword the fellow would say, I could be tell me more. Mohamed would then say get a sword and follow me.

    I say kiss my A#s

    March 31, 2011 at 10:23 am |
    • Renny

      People like Daniel and Joey are going to wake up too late. I just hope there are not so many blind people like that yet. Or they are muslims, in which case they are not to be trusted.

      March 31, 2011 at 10:27 am |
  4. pablo

    Let's see, Jesus said "turn the other cheek". Islam says "kill the infidel". Which one would I embrace if I were into religion. It's pretty much a toss up. Having 73 virgins waiting for me in heaven might be the tie breaker.

    March 31, 2011 at 10:08 am |
    • Renny

      Except for when you get to "heaven" and your diety greets you in his red skin, horns, pointy tail and funny looking pitchfork. And he never said the 73 virgins would be human or female.

      March 31, 2011 at 10:28 am |
  5. Roland

    Muslims always feel alienated and victimized in non-Islamic societies.This is because Islam teaches that they are supposed to be superior to non-Muslims."the best of mankind" so non-Muslim culture is inherently oppressive in nature where it conflicts with Islam.Victimhood and sometimes violence is then an automatic reflex to stifle criticism of Islamic religious teachings and practices.

    March 31, 2011 at 10:00 am |
    • Daniel

      It's funny how you and all the Christians feel superior to the Muslims too...Ironic.

      March 31, 2011 at 10:21 am |
  6. pete

    no it's jews like madoff, milken, silverstein, fuld, israel, blankenfein..the list goes on who have pillaged life savings from 10's of 1000's of americans bleeding them slowly while swearing ther alliegance to the turd stain called israel.. this is why the dirtbags have been kicked out of more countries than all races/religion combined..US next dirtbags..jews and israel the worst investment in U.S. history..a failed experiment

    March 31, 2011 at 9:59 am |
  7. TG

    Hate is expressing itself more and more. Jesus said that "lack of love" would become so notable that the greater part of mankind would in some form feel this way, by saying that "because of the increasing of lawlessness, the love of the greater number will cool off."(Matt 24:12)

    Thus, even among those that profess to follow Jesus, there are those who express an intolerance towards others, whether it be their nationality of religion. On the other hand, Jesus gave a command to his true disciples to "go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you."(Matt 28:19, 20)

    Hence, genuine love is to be shown for "people of all the nations", in order to give everyone an opportunity to know who the true God Jehovah is (Deut 6:5), "teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you." Jesus further said to "practice giving, and people will give to you....For with the measure that you are measuring out, they will measure out to you in return."(Luke 6:38)

    At Matthew 7, Jesus gave what is commonly called the "Golden Rule", whereby he said: "All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you must likewise do to them."(Matt 7:12) If we want consideration for our beliefs, then we must be willing to show respect for other's beliefs.

    March 31, 2011 at 9:55 am |
  8. pablo

    Couldn't have said it better Dan.

    March 31, 2011 at 9:47 am |
  9. Joey

    Its saddening how we can say all Isamists are terrorists because of the acts of extremists, yet we don't count the many instances of Christian violence as terrorism or stereotype all Christians as such (for example, the bombing of places like Planned Parenthood, or even the invasion of Islamist countries by as as Christians can be seen as terrorist acts)

    We need to be able to, as a country, learn to seperate the acts of extremists and terrorists from the background they came from.

    March 31, 2011 at 9:46 am |
    • Renny

      @Joey, you need to wake up and look around you, do a little learning about the islamic religion. It is people like you that will enable the muslims to take over and impose sharia law in the USA. Here, I'll give you a starting point. Research what is happening in England, how in the last 25-30 years the muslims have quietly increased their population, until now they are so powerful they are working on having a separate sharia law allowed in there. Eventually to have only sharia law in england.

      March 31, 2011 at 9:51 am |
    • Daniel

      Joey, you're absolutely right. It really saddens me to see all the f***ing morons on this page. I guess you can't ask much more from someone with an IQ lower than 100.

      March 31, 2011 at 10:18 am |
  10. pablo

    Gee, I don't remember the jews murdering thousands of people at the Trade Centers. I don't remember them chanting "Death to America" I think you must be confused. The Jews only want a small piece of ground to live on and be left alone. It doesn't even have oil on it like all the surrounding countries. If the arabs would leave them alone there would be peace in the area.

    March 31, 2011 at 9:45 am |
    • Brian M

      The people who compare the historical acts of Christians or the recent acts of a very small few(Tim Mcveigh is their favorite) fail to realize that islamic based terrorism is a worldwide threat. Of course there are good and bad in all faiths and of course at times in the history of the world the greatest threat has been from nazis, fascists, communists Christians and others. The fact is that if you look at the statistics the most dangerous ideological threat today comes from radical islamists and they are not being dealt with the way nazis and fascista have been dealt with in the past because of some false concept of tolerance

      March 31, 2011 at 10:57 am |
  11. dan

    The issue is incorrectly framed. One need only look back to the early '50's when communism was considered an existential threat to this country. There were widespread efforts to thwart communism and its influence here, and indeed in other countries. We have remained American w/o the taint of communism due to those efforts. Islam is an overarching ideology that is anathema to American values in numerous ways. Most importantly, it derives its legitimacy based on the premise that the koran and other holy texts are considered the direct word of god(even its interpreted by humans) and as such their fealty is to the ideology embodied in those texts. America is predicated on the rule of manmade secular law, even if suffused with judeochristian influences. These two concepts are at perpetual loggerheads without resolution, and aside from the extreme exhortations in islamic holy texts, which are taken to heart by a significant minority of muslims, will never be resolved unless one cedes ground to other. Muslims are therefore driven not only to prosyletize but to conquer in order to subjugate all others; it is their holy duty. Until Americans and others not only realize this but accept this reality, we will never have a coherent response to this threat since its a totalitarian ideology wrapped in a religious cloak; the perfect trojan horse against a western secular democracy. We now are in the position of having to tolerate, in our midst, the intolerant. And the left will ultimately pay the same price the rest of us do when the utility of the useful idiots comes to an end.

    March 31, 2011 at 9:44 am |
  12. pete

    Funny..it's the low-life jews that have done more damge to the U.S. then all muslim terrorists combined that should be the ones alienated

    March 31, 2011 at 9:36 am |
    • maggie

      And don't forget the Christians - those who kill abortion doctors and conduct hideous protests at military funerals. The point is that there is good and bad in every religion, not just one.

      March 31, 2011 at 10:29 am |
  13. pablo

    Right on Lisa.

    March 31, 2011 at 9:35 am |
  14. Lisa

    This is how it started in England...Muslims whining about their lack of freedom and anti-Muslim sentiment and the liberals siding with them. Now they have so much power, they are pushing for a separate Sharia law in Britain. This has all happened in the last 25-30 years. If you think it won't happen here, you are naive. I'm not saying we should be intolerant; Muslims should be allowed to practice their religion without harrassment. But when they start asking us to change the country to fit their beliefs, that's where the line must be drawn.

    March 31, 2011 at 9:22 am |
    • Renny

      Lisa, you are correct, unfortunately there are still too many blind sheeple not paying attention in this country. They don't bother looking at what happens in other countries and seeing the early signs of the same things happening in this one, i.e. what you described in england, what is happening in france, and what happened recently in greece(economically).

      March 31, 2011 at 9:47 am |
  15. pablo

    The muslims think their religion supercedes all laws. They should live in one of the countries run by muslims, such as Iran, and then they can enjoy all the wonders and freedoms offered by the great muslim culture.

    March 31, 2011 at 8:59 am |
  16. pablo

    For Wirius, Oh yes, I think I remember a muslim named Abdul on the Mayflower when it landed at Plymouth Rock.

    March 31, 2011 at 8:55 am |
  17. Dolce21

    How do you not want us to fear and have doubts about this religion, its full of hate, and rehtorical down with America chants. I don't feel they should be given the same liberties as we real Americans have, if they chose to be islamic let them in another country who agrees with kind of teaching.

    March 31, 2011 at 8:51 am |
    • Renny

      The problem with that is their goal is making worship of islam and following the pedophile prophet, worldwide.

      March 31, 2011 at 9:44 am |
    • Daniel

      Admit it, you have never read any of their texts, you have never done any real research on them or their culture, all of this ignorant ranting you're doing is just you parroting some other ignorant parrot from Fox News or something. You don't know what you're talking about, you're just repeating some BS you heard from some other idiot.

      March 31, 2011 at 10:14 am |
    • Renny

      Actually Daniel, you souind like one that has not done any study/research.

      March 31, 2011 at 10:24 am |
  18. pablo

    what other religion promotes "honor killings" of family, beheading infidels, blowing others up, blowing each other up, and blowing themselves up. They are infatuated with bombs. Death to all infidels (which is everyone apparently).

    March 31, 2011 at 8:50 am |
    • arrianna

      I DONT KNOW. Something about believing in false pedephile prophets just makes them explode.

      March 31, 2011 at 9:20 am |
    • Sam

      All religions have their crazies. Its just that Islam has a much higher percentage. I would be crazy too if all womens faces were covered up in America.

      March 31, 2011 at 10:55 am |
  19. Cnnsrsly?

    Why is there even an opinion poll on this issue? It's stupid, CNN is just trying to stir emotion... America's news agencies base all their news on "how can we create fear in to Americans."

    March 31, 2011 at 8:33 am |
    • conradshull

      True, true, true. And, i'ts the same krap from CNN, Fox News, NYT, Time and Newsweek, etc. It's the primary tool of politicians of all ideological ilks. The accusation of liberals that the right is all about sowing fear is also, and in equal measure, the sowing of fear as well.

      March 31, 2011 at 8:47 am |
  20. Sagebrush Shorty.

    Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.

    March 31, 2011 at 7:51 am |
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