Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?
Mohammad Ali Elahi, the imam at the Islamic House of Wisdom in Dearborn Heights, Michigan.
March 28th, 2011
05:07 PM ET

Your take: Is American Muslim alienation valid?

Lots of provocative comments on our story about Muslims in one of the country's biggest and oldest Muslim enclaves feeling alienated in their own country. Many commenters are critical of American Muslims; many others sympathetic and supportive.

But the responses are all over the map and largely defy such easy categorization.

Here's a sampling:

Joe from Kalispell
The fact there is even a "Muslim Enclave" is scary. They already wanted to be separate to not be "polluted by American values." They are really pushing their First Amendment right because I am sure the Founding Fathers didn't mean to afford protection to a religion so opposed to our existence as is Islam.

It is sad to see so much hate in this country and little education about other cultures and religions. In many instances we "Americans" bring destructions upon ourselves and we are blind to see why.

These Muslims are safer in this country than anywhere else in the world. if they think they are unsafe here let them leave.

If you are really sick of them, then don't buy their oil, don't invade their countries, dont kill them, don't steal their land, don't prop up dictators to take their freedom away. I bet they have more reason to be sick of you buddy.

Islam literally means "submission" to God. Therefore, any human being that submits himself to God is considered to be following "Islam." what that means is, if you are a christian, who submits yourself to God, then you are in fact upholding Islam. You really do have to put the verse into context and understand the exact meanings. Here are a few verse for you to ponder upon:

"Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians – whoever believes in God and the Last Day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord. And there will be no fear for them, nor shall they grieve" (2:62, 5:69, and many other verses).

Reality, funny because the terrorists never say they do in the name of Islam or to convert people to Islam or force Islam on America. They only complain about the hostile US policies and wars, and its support to Israeli atrocities, many supporters belong to religious  believers who want to see Armageddon and end of the world.

I know the media and politicians tell you that it's all about religion to mute any serious discussion of the root cause of terror.

I am not a Muslim. I am APPALLED at the people who profess to faith in God, their ignorant accusations against the Muslim population in America. There are millions of Muslims in America. Some are poor, some are wealthy. Some are devout, some aren't so devout. Some are saints, some are sinners. Muslims are people, just like you and I. The good Muslim, which is the majority, seeks to better theirs, and others lives around them. Don't let the extremists paint your view of many good people. Don't let the fact that third world dictatorships use the Muslim religions blind you to how terrible Christianity was when it was tied to the king. In short, religious people should be showing support and care for the Muslims in our community.

I am a Muslim WHITE AMERICAN who can trace family roots back to the 13 original colonies you idiot. This is my country. Accept it.

Sick and evil! I will never trust them. I will forever remember Nic, Daniel Pearl, and the victims of 09.11 and countless others who have died at the hands of these monsters. I am angry at whoever created this mess by allowing this cult in the door. Immigration control – Yesterday!!

- CNN Belief Blog Co-Editor

Filed under: Islam • Michigan

soundoff (822 Responses)
  1. America

    We have become tolerant as a nation. I am not for alienating a race or religion, but when you look at this situation it is not like the others of pure hate. This is reality! Ask someone of the Muslim faith if push came to shove would they denounce their people and fight against them for the greater good? No they would not and rightfully so because that is their religion. In the scenario of our world today you have two opposing forces that will never see eye to eye. Therefore as a nation if we are tolerant then we allow ourselves to become numb to the reality of why will happen if and when the war is brought to our home country. Ww must act now an control our immigration into our country and schools to eliminate any future events such as 9/11 and countless other incidents the corporate media would like to keep from you to make you tolerant.

    March 29, 2011 at 10:44 pm |
    • Another Larry

      9/11 was a response to our foreign policy of interference in Middle East countries for the past 60, not an immigration problem.

      March 29, 2011 at 10:51 pm |
  2. Another Larry

    Joe from Kalispell said "The fact there is even a "Muslim Enclave" is scary."

    Old Joe isn't very knowledgeable of American history. There have always been communities within the country where immigrants with common backgrounds gather.

    March 29, 2011 at 10:38 pm |
  3. jamie

    Muslims for one thing do not allow women any rights. Why then would we want to digress as a nation and have to "submit" to this. Ha Ha Ha- if they want "Rights" they should go back to their countries that offered them. Here in America us Ladies have the right to speak & not have to cover our hair in public...

    March 29, 2011 at 10:32 pm |
    • Another Larry

      The largest Muslim country in the world is Indonesia, which has had a woman president, Megawati Sukarnoputri. Three other Muslim countries have have women prime ministers. You might want expand your understanding of Muslim countries. They are not all the same.

      March 29, 2011 at 11:01 pm |
    • tonyl

      United States is the only nation not allowing a woman President in it's history so far. Talk about giving lectures on the women's rights to the rest of the world.

      March 29, 2011 at 11:08 pm |
  4. Ahmed

    1000 virgins can no go rong

    March 29, 2011 at 10:31 pm |
    • jamie

      No proof..can't speak to the crazies who are already DEAD. Come on now just take a hot second and think clearly!

      March 29, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
  5. Che_Lives

    Frederica... Again... I've yet to hear a christian apologize to Native Americans or African Americans...nope. All you hear is christians justifying their bad behavior. You shouldn't lie.

    March 29, 2011 at 10:18 pm |
    • thorrsman

      Why should they?

      March 29, 2011 at 10:31 pm |
    • Frederica

      @Che-: Did Native Americans, African Americans, Africans, Arabs and Asians apologize to each other for what they have done to each other? As a woman, I want every man to apologize to every woman. I'm glad Christian Westerners came to my countries in Asia and defeat local men who enslaved women and educated the whole region on what civility is. Yes, you make apologies to whomever you violated, especially if you are a man.

      March 30, 2011 at 12:05 am |
    • Frederica

      Che, be thankful to Christians for making your country civilized, though you may not remember anything if you had belonged to a group who exploited weaker members of your society.

      March 30, 2011 at 12:09 am |
  6. knock knock

    Y is israel flying that flag? Trying2 lure david n2 a trap its a trap,IS that Y the enemy comes to destroy THE JEWS? surely we wdnt wana make a liar out of God wud we? Just wondering. Tsk tsk

    March 29, 2011 at 10:17 pm |
    • Another Larry

      If it's not worth your time to type out words, why should anyone take the time to read your comments?

      March 29, 2011 at 10:53 pm |
  7. Steve

    Frederica, I am sorry its all bloody and itchy. I left you $2 on your bedside table.

    March 29, 2011 at 10:10 pm |
  8. Che_Lives

    Yeah Frederica, and all you "christians" hate everyone else.

    March 29, 2011 at 10:08 pm |
  9. Steve

    In College we brutalized a Muslim student. Some members of the arab student union would come to her defense. My friend pretended to like Rumanna and took some nude pics of her as she slept. The pics were spread online and Rumanna jumped off the roof of our 14 floor dorm. I feel so bad because I never let her ride me like the Lone Ranger. School was better without her.

    March 29, 2011 at 10:05 pm |
    • Frederica

      It's time to homeschool college kids.

      March 29, 2011 at 10:07 pm |
    • thorrsman

      So you are a lying troll. Hardly uncommon.

      March 29, 2011 at 10:32 pm |
  10. George

    I saw the move They stare at goats, 2 muslim men were upset when it was over. They thought it was a love story. One of the rag men mentioned that their daughter better deep throat that night.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:59 pm |
  11. knock knock

    Y cudnt the 70billion dollar kings raise their ppl? Bc they were breeding the hate 4us. They know how God works mmbr? We r just fools huh? WELL GET THE PHK OFF MY FOOTSTOOL.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:48 pm |
  12. Frederica

    It's time Americans (the secular ones) learn US history properly. Unless they want to be a Societ Union with hedonism.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:47 pm |
  13. muslimamerica

    I am as American as anyone of you. I was born and raised in the US. I was brought up in a Christian home and converted to Islam. Just because you do not accept my religious beliefs to be your own does not make this country any more yours then it is mine. I will were my hijab and proudly salute our troops. Freedom is freedom for everyone no matter race, religion, or ethinicity. This is my America just as much as it is yours.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • Chumlee

      Can you pass the real test for being an American?

      Do you know the words to Lee Greenwood's "I'm Proud to be an American"?

      March 29, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
    • Frederica

      Work for the freedom and human rights of women and infidels in the Muslim land as Americans should do. You just lost the Savior by conversion.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:55 pm |
    • GABBY

      You need to learn English grammar and punctuation.

      March 29, 2011 at 10:26 pm |
    • Another Larry

      @Frederica: "You just lost the Savior by conversion."

      Actually she just traded one set of myths for another.

      March 29, 2011 at 10:49 pm |
  14. Follower

    This just goes to show that what my mother always said is true: "you can't fix stupid."

    Islam really is a religion of peace and submission to God. I've studied it myself. The Qur'an explicitly tells Muslims that Jews and Christians are not to be harmed. The prophet himself didn't even endorse violence at the end of his life–parts of the Hadith forbid it.

    The insane, mostly-crazed, radical Muslims that commit terrible crimes like terrorist attacks do NOT represent the majority of these people. That would be like saying that the Westboro Baptist Church represents all of Christianity. It's just RIDICULOUS.

    Most people don't know that Muslims were among the first settlers in the US. They were few, but they were here before most of our ancestors even thought about America.

    I dare any one of these people who say that Islam is violent or "sick" to go to a Mosque and observe Friday prayers. I can almost guarantee you that you won't find anyone who fits that description.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • Chumlee

      You're right, it's the extremists that give anything a bad name.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:56 pm |
  15. George

    I drive 17 miles to find a Mosque so I can walk my dog on it's grounds.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
    • Chumlee

      Thats using your head. Burn gas, probably made from their oil, to drive your car, to their place of worship so your dog can take a dump on their property.

      Heh, heh, heh.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:48 pm |
    • Another Larry

      Sounds pretty childish.

      March 29, 2011 at 10:40 pm |
    • tonyl

      Make sure that your dog has not converted in to a Muslim terrorist. Your converted dog could attack you while you are asleep. You can always leave your Muslim dog at the Mosque. You must be a 5th grade dropout living in a trailer park.

      March 29, 2011 at 11:03 pm |
    • Muneef

      Your dog must have p-is-sed in your ears and on your eyes for that reason you hear not and see not.

      March 30, 2011 at 5:31 am |
  16. Frederica

    Europeans taught Americans (almost) everything. Americans don't remember it. So nations don't recall how much America helped them.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:42 pm |
    • thorrsman

      Even here the phrase "Lafayette, we are here!"? Know what it MEANS?

      You know what it was like in western Europe when the Soviet Union was still a threat to them? Do you have the faintest idea how grateful the Brits, The Germans, the Italians were–then–for the protection that American soldiers offered them?

      As for what America learned from Europe–we learned the idiocy of allowing kings to rule us. We understood, long before Europeans, that one man is no better than another simply because one was born in a castle and the other in a hovel. We came to know that true freedom comes from being a free individual who demands the right to take care of himself.

      Perhaps it is time to examine what Europe learned from America.

      March 29, 2011 at 10:31 pm |
    • Lee

      thorrsman you're a first class moron – "As for what America learned from Europe–we learned the idiocy of allowing kings to rule us. We understood, long before Europeans, that one man is no better than another simply because one was born in a castle and the other in a hovel. We came to know that true freedom comes from being a free individual who demands the right to take care of himself"
      Americans didn't learn that, the English did when we exectued our King in the 17th century, in the 18th century English colonists in America reminded King George of this. Maybe you should read a real history book and not the fairy tales published in the USA.

      March 30, 2011 at 7:00 pm |
  17. Ra

    I sometimes wish that we lived in a world where religion was a fictional story that parents read to their kids. But a world without religion is a world without fear of punishment. Why can't we all just see that religions are like adding numbers, 1 plus 2 is always 3 no matter what country you are in. They're all the same.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:40 pm |
    • Chumlee

      Is that you John Lennon?

      No seriously, I agree.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:43 pm |
    • Ra

      Nope, just another average person that lives in a world clouded by ignorance.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:52 pm |
  18. Frederica

    America was set up for religious freedom so people may freely worship God. Stick to the principle.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:37 pm |
    • Chumlee

      You're right........America was set up that way. Most of the rest of the world wasn't.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:41 pm |
    • Frederica

      Chumlee, and only Americans don't know that. They think the pagan world is a paradise. They should leave their country.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:44 pm |
  19. Chumlee

    It's no different than any other prejudice..............we are scared until we know the truth.

    March 29, 2011 at 9:35 pm |
    • Chumlee

      And sometimes the truth is scary.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:36 pm |
    • Frederica

      But you must face it. It's Christian American way. We have too many Buddhists nowadays.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:38 pm |
    • Ra

      It's not a christian way, it's a moral way. Religion is like cars, some own ford, chevy, others own Honda, lexus. They all have one thing in common. All of those cars have one sole purpose which is to take humans from point A to point B. Just like religion.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:46 pm |
    • Frederica

      Ra, Americans don't have morals apart from Christianity. That's the problem.

      March 29, 2011 at 9:50 pm |
    • Ahmed

      In what world are you living?

      March 29, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
  20. faith

    Listen to Ishmael on Itunes under Faith Gilmore Bold As Lions

    March 29, 2011 at 9:31 pm |
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